Ford 8.8 Final Assembly

[@flyiniowan9623]

By far one of the most in depth and informative rear diff setup and build videos I have ever seen, I like how you made sure to include all of the problems and struggles that anyone would encounter in the video instead of editing it down like u nailed the first time. WAY TO GO ERIC!!!

[@dil6969]

I swear, KZbin is the KING of quality automotive content right now. Between you, Danner, SMA, Brian and many others, there's always something good to watch.

[@MechanicalMikesRoadsideRepair]

Have to agree with that.Have you heard of "Haggared Garage" I ask also because your pic of a miata i think lol . they're ok but i kind of dont like the hacked jobs and stuff.

[@dil6969]

I've seen a few of their videos and I'm not a fan. They have their place on this site, but I just don't like the low production value and endless stream of abused cars. TheCarPassionChannel is definitely my favorite small youtube channel, as most of the projects are budget minded and Greg's videos have the perfect balance of humor and maturity.

[@MechanicalMikesRoadsideRepair]

***** I'll check them out and yes I agree with you.I'm kind of an old soul mechanic well not a mechanic yet but i do fix and work on stuff here and there.I also like watching.I just don't like seeing people do these hacked jobs on their cars and ruining them.What Eric does is legit and the best way to modify a car.

[@dil6969]

+Damico881 Love his channel. I just wish he posted more often.

[@steveloomis4086]

Yeah, if you want a good laugh. This guy is an idiot.

[@Mrwheresmyhouse]

I just picked up a 92 Grand Marquis with an 8.8 and 2.73 gears which I'm going to swap out for 3.55 gears. These videos have been immensely helpful. Thank you.

[@alward9901]

It's like preparing a meal all the work is in the preparation . Can't" wait to see her eat them up on the road!! Nice job Eric ,

[@N1RKW]

This series of videos is why I would always be delighted to pay someone else to set up a differential for me, should the need arise. Keep up the good work, Eric!

[@ericthecarguy]

That can make things easier.

[@N1RKW]

I think in my case it would make things possible. :D

[@franciscogallegos8300]

Crazy how short this video is in comparison to the HOURS of work you did with the backlash calibration. That video and you with Paul on the T5 are two of the most technical vids on youtube I've ever seen.

[@daveogarf]

WOW, Cameraman Brian really earned his Wheaties this time, Eric! He was right in there, getting super-sharp, detailed images of every step! Your production quality has gone WAY up since you don't have to concentrate on getting the vid anymore, and can concentrate on the mechanical job at hand. KUDOS to you both!

[@PorscheRacer14]

These video parts are invaluable. I'll be revisiting these in short time as I swap out my 3.55s for 4.11s 🙂

[@HeinzP100]

That was a great project. Thanks for taking us on the adventure. Hope to see more of these long and detailed en devours.

[@ericthecarguy]

You will. I still have the rest of the car to build. ;)

[@HeinzP100]

Well yes, there is that. :-)

[@bennetthodgins5499]

really enjoyed these videos and I really like how you showed the full video then the right way and the final assembly awesome series..

[@TheStwat]

I've really enjoyed this series of shows, Mr Car Guy.

[@icurt06]

A nice series of videos about building a rear end. Thanks Eric!

[@emtscythe3782]

That diff cover is BAD ASS!!!

[@ellesmerewildwood4858]

That alloy back case ( if that's what it's called ) really makes the diff look niiiiiiiiice. I think back to what the diff looked like in the first video and what it looks now now. After the drama, the headaches, the frustrations, having to walk away for a while and come back with a fresh mind, it gets does and then you sit down, admire your work and pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Ain't it the best feeling ?

[@ericthecarguy]

Thank you! and yes, it is.

[@firemandkdkdk]

Excellent videos and series , I feel your pain... makes me want to try but at the same time makes me want to find a good rear end shop with a warranty and pay them to set it up...... your comment, which was basically "how does the factory do it ?" made me think back to my 1926 Model T and even further to 1860's locomotives : I have always been amazed how they built those with technology available then , sort of like how did they drill / blast 2 tunnels a mile long through the Santa Cruz mountains in the 1880's and meet in the middle ? Technology has evolved so much .... sort of scary ...... and amazing what they did in the past.

[@danielziemba8045]

That's a thing of beauty, Eric.

[@JimGriffOne]

03:35 - You can use Isopropanol to dissolve the sticky stuff on labels so it peels right off.

[@italianice678]

Thanks for the video Eric! It's fun watching you work.

[@SPAZALOT]

i see you went with stock length lug studs, i built a 9" w/4:11 gears limited slip, small block 4 sp. top loader and hurst roll control in a 72 Maverick Grabber, first launch sheered off stock length studs and had to install 3" drag studs

[@Kickinpony66]

WD-40, Brak-Kleen, or PB Blaster works good for removing stickers. It loosens the adhesive. But, a wire-wheel is very effective as well!

[@stevecegulls3570]

Thank You for these videos I Believe I can do this job myself with good videos to have as a Resource Thank You Eric

[@MechanicalMikesRoadsideRepair]

All my young life so far,there's just something about putting things together that interests me so much.

[@aserta]

Pouring a bit of oil on a paper towel then lubing up the shafts will make insertion much easier vis-a-vis not damaging the seal. Wetting the seal doesn't really help all that much since there's so much shaft passing by, it just removed the oil after the first few inches. YES, YES, that's what she said!

[@ericthecarguy]

Good idea. Thanks for the tip.

[@Asomesauc]

dang Eric we want more, instalation ect

[@ericthecarguy]

I need to finish building it first. ;)

[@abc123mj13]

I don't quite understand how anyone can do this. It looks like brain science to me! Great job.

[@jakesawatzky9646]

when will the fairmont finally be finished

[@ericthecarguy]

I'm shooting for September.

[@scottdore132]

did you use fox length axles or sm95?

[@ArchimedeanEye]

Strap yourselves in for part 15 of building an 8.8 diff! lol!!!

[@RobertKohut]

You got a very nice rear end there, Eric!!

[@civicrojo18]

So excited about this project

[@timmis15]

Nice Holden badge at 4:49

[@blake301987]

Was just about to comment the same thing!

[@Brian-Burke]

The satisfying click of a torque wrench.

[@ToxicMisfitsYt]

a spark plug socket would of worked on locking the stud locks and you could of held the Allen stud through the hole but turned the socket with a wrench

[@xaytana]

For the stoppers with the nuts, that would be a great time a torque wrench for those pass through sockets existed. They might exist, I've never seen one though, and I doubt any would be good since I've only seen pass through type sockets from lower end brands.

[@silasmarner7586]

My biggest issue with my axles is the splines weren't precision machined and they had to be inserted and removed to get them to slide in so they didn't stick. Some filing was required to get the splines to slide onto the (spider?) gears.

[@geraldhinson]

Nice job as always. Thanks, Eric!

[@JordyValentine]

Dont you just love the easy parts? Can't wait to see her done

[@ericthecarguy]

Yea, this was much easier than the last part.

[@markryl-kuchar2373]

Was leaving the set up paint on the ring gear a safe thing to do?

[@cornishsean1]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@dkongul]

yes that paint is designed for that it a SPECIAL paint dont use the paint you painted your walls with

[@tevsil1]

its basicly just a grease that desolves in the gear oil

[@neathway382]

A tool that would have been real handy, for this job, would be a "pass through" socket set. You could have gotten onto the nut, and, the end of the load stud to keep it from turning in while you tightened the jam nut. They're also great for places where you're dealing with a long bolt, can't really get a wrench on the nut, and don't have room for a conventional ratchet and deep socket .

[@TheDracfink]

great series. here's a question for yea. i was putting gear lube in the trans of my car and got some on my shirt. i've washed it 2 times and the stink of gear lube is still on it. what is a good way to get rid of the stink?

[@kmath50]

Looks like you are in the home stretch on that now. I wish I could be at your meet up tomorrow. Hope that it goes well.

[@christophermoynier7624]

What rear diff did you end up using? I am using a trutrac in my 8" and wanted to see what is suggested under higher HP builds

[@jtcross]

didnt ask for a single like so i liked all videos

[@classicman1828]

good work ERIC I never thought Differential Need that much of work , now i see whey must cars are front wheel drive

[@shawnboyd96]

Thank you Eric! For making me realise that I never want to work on a rwd car ever. Lol.

[@ericthecarguy]

FWD vehicles have differentials too, they're just inside the transmission.

[@GForceConnections]

Good video Eric, however I'm still curious what benefits you would achieve from those pads being pushed against the bearing. Thanks

[@randallvos]

The idea behind those pads is to prevent deformation of the carrier bearing housings, which could move the ring gear in relation to the pinion during extreme use, which could damage or destroy the rear end.........

[@ericthecarguy]

There is literally TONS of force placed on those bearings. The pads help secure them to help distribute the load of that force.

[@kczabriskie]

I've never put RTV on a seal when installing and never had them leak between the outside of the seal and the housing it fits into. Eric - is this recommended for all seals?

[@richardquinones2959]

good work Eric now can you do a video on how to change the power motor switch to the alarm and door lock on a Honda Element driver side

[@nathanhess3905]

Great video. Are you going to show the assemble of the brakes and filling of the fluid. Thanks

[@ericthecarguy]

Yes, that's next in the series.

[@gamesbok]

If it doesn't matter which way you install a bearing, install it so you can still read the bearing number when it's home.

[@curtismundy]

Why did you decide against c clip eliminators?

[@roadkill5333]

When you put silicon on the bearing support studs, in the diff cover, would that not be better to use a Teflon thread sealant? Does the mfg recommend that? It looks like it would make it a pain to do oil changes or repairs, with that goo locking up the threads.

[@themisunderstoodgorilla7030]

i thought the same thing. teflon tape would be easy

[@luisgetulioferreiraandrade8496]

I was a passenger until I was 18 and I drove it for 25 years and I never took it apart The differential has a small oil leak but it still works and I don't know if it's 7.5 inches or 8 I don't know if you know or if you don't know also thank you very much

[@Tigerfire75]

Eric why no silacone spray to get the bushings in?

[@chuoelfeo]

You should've got an C clip eliminator kit but anyways really enjoying these videos. keep it up!

[@fecklar1905]

Question...Really like your videos...Will this information transfer over to a ford 9.75 and a IFS 8.8? I am wanting to install Eaton Detroit Truetrac Differentials both front and rear. I know the torque settings will be different. Thanks.

[@theresinator1085]

So what did you end up doing for the counter weight "dog bone". I can't use the one I took off. Broken bolts/bad bushings. I'd like to know if I should run with nothing on it.

[@PITTYNOTFOUND]

Love your work Eric

[@GabrielGarcia-bi7ww]

Hi Eric i love your videos they help me and other people a lot and and the question is that should i get a automotive technician certification or go for the AA degree ans a automotive technician? And THANK YOU

[@CarattiniGarage]

Same for the bushing

[@hayaboosta]

I am guessing you did not want one of those one time tools to press in/out the upper control arm bushings? I have one and it works great.......but guess what? Only used it once.....

[@chrisking7213]

Once installed does the axle retain the foxbody width? or is it now sn95 width with the addition of the disc brake set up?

[@Unitdirtdiver01]

What happened to using the c-clip eliminators?

[@CarattiniGarage]

You could had use the boll join removal tool to put the stud I love that tool.

[@turenolevin4672]

will that hammering would be enough for studs to stay on axel. wondering?

[@drewsawyer3]

it will have the tire and lugs on it with enough pressure for it

[@lilmanjeeps]

That's how you install them. The splines press in and lock it in place.

[@lexmaximaguy8788]

its more than enough.

[@turenolevin4672]

+Sprint316 thank you.

[@turenolevin4672]

+LEX Maximaguy87 ok. thank you.

[@chrislowe8085]

Eric did you replace your clutch pack when you installed your rear end. I just did 3.73 & was told my clutch pack was good but after close to 1000 miles. There re used the stock 26 year old clutches. I think I burned out the clutched with with the new rear end. Should I just replace the clutches with new carbon fiber & be done with it. What do you think? My 1 spider gear was mashed & was replaced plus my carrier bolt was mashed & was replaced as well..... Your input on this would go a mile. 1992 foxbody mustang 302 HO with stock AOD. After market headers h-piper and catback with aftermarket drive shaft. "28 spine"

[@reckless9146]

do i have to check my pinon angle if i remove the rear end like you did?

[@notnilc20]

Eric....can you have too much rear end? i have an old 1986 toyota corolla with a whopping 100hp/100tq. and the rear ends are hard to find so i am thinking of using a ford 8.8 rear end. would it be too big for my little 1.6 liter toyota? or would it be ok? thanks for your expertise.

[@SidewaysInTraffic]

Might be a silly question, but how do you know you have the proper length on your axles?

[@themfknightrider420]

you got by the rearend. you just type in 8.8 axles or 9'' axles on customs axles you have to do alot of math and mesurreing

[@SidewaysInTraffic]

+themfknightrider420 coo thanks man.

[@chadharmon5716]

I've learned a lot about diff's but I'm never going to touch them lol only fluid drains

[@ascotell]

How to do you like the Gray sockets? Do you still like them.

[@ericthecarguy]

I love them.

[@edgeofvamp]

Eric, did you ever find out whether or not you needed that weight for the front? I may have missed you saying you didn't in another video, just curious what the outcome of that was.

[@MrMiked37]

What happened to installing the c-clip eliminators

[@belowEentertainment7673]

How did you get the spider gears back in place I'm having trouble the gears are blocking the pin from sliding in all the way

[@crx122]

Turn the drive shaft. Put one spider gear on, rotate driveshaft until the other you put on is straight back, install other spider gear directly across from it and insert pin. After installing first spider gear in the 9 o clock position rotate driveshaft until it now sits at the 3 o clock, then put the other one at the 9 o clock and they should be lined up perfect for the pin.

[@LordLancifer]

This is also applicable to the Chrysler 8.25. That what I have under my Jeep.

[@VeiRoNv2]

How come the torque wrench wasn't working properly? is it because of the angle?

[@q......]

He had to use a swivel joint due to the head being too big.You can't get proper torque using those, I belive he thought he was using way too much pressure on it and or getting it well past the torque needed so he went to his tried and "true?" method of sticking to 1/4" as to not overtighten.

[@VeiRoNv2]

+qballtvp I see,I didn't notice the swivel joint,thanks

[@luisgetulioferreiraandrade8496]

Good afternoon, how are you? I got in that car when I was four years old. The differential that I see in that video is less robust than the one I have. That must be Dana 30 or if it is a Ford that I have, the cover is slightly molded to the size of the crown. be dana 40 or a larger differential I don't know you have information excuse me for asking you about the types of ford fairmont differentials because the one I have left the agency in 1979 I'm sure and it's more robust than the one you show in the video thanks what number of roller are you mounting thanks

[@dtimboggs]

Where is the rest disk brake kit found? Part number? Thanks

[@ericthecarguy]

Link in the description.

[@vetterfellow]

Over whelming Eric, That inspection cover will look sweet under the Fairmont's rear bumper. Can I get first dibs on being the test pilot?. Hope there's no more major hurtles.

[@zoidberg444]

Yeah. I don't think i will attempt to rebuild a diff unless i was up shit creek without a paddle. That was kind of tricky.

[@dannyb5095]

Rebuilding a differential isn't that hard. I had to learn on my own because I was a poor college kid and had to do a lot of my own work. I'd really like to know how to rebuild a transmission

[@dkongul]

i believe you mentioned you were going to use axle holders instead of c-clips what changed your mind

[@q......]

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Technically he can still put them on... Just if he fills it up with oil and run it a bit, he will have to drain it. Good thing he now has that handy drain plug... I am pretty sure the C-Clip eliminators will be a video in and of itself.. if he uses them that is. Likely a bit more fabrication required than he originally thought. That or adding it into the brake install part?

[@dkongul]

i believe that you should not use c clips with axle holders thats why i am surprised

[@ericthecarguy]

I'm sure I covered that in this series somewhere. Perhaps in the last assembly video. I didn't use them because of the disc brakes I'm using and they're prone to leaks.

[@dkongul]

oh i think i have missed it great build anyways and i am HUNGRY for that engine rebuild videos

[@ericthecarguy]

They're a ways out yet. Need to finish the rear end, remove the old engine and trans, and the K member. After that I have a whole series of engine videos as we spent 2 days at the machine shop shooting.

[@thebudman67]

I thought you were going with c-clip eliminators?

[@GradyRho92]

Engine build next with that turbo?

[@bluecollarjose]

Hey Eric, are you planning to start up the Fairmont (if you haven't already) at the meet up?

[@ericthecarguy]

Still a ways to go before I'm able to do that. Wiring, gauges, fuel system.

[@abd357939]

Eric I'm thirsty to see more 😎👌🏻

[@ericthecarguy]

You'll have plenty before it's all said and done. I'll be posting Fairmont videos for a while.

[@الحياهجميلهفعشها]

+EricTheCarGuy اخي العزيز ارجو منك ترجمه الى الغه العربيه وشاكرجهدك القيم واتمنى لك الصحه والسلامه اخي* أيرك

[@Michiganborn1969]

I thought from a video a while ago that you were going to use C-clip eliminators? Also are you going to add gear oil to that case?

[@tannedmann0231]

great video mate!!

[@CheezyDee]

I heard of a couple race tracks that will throw you out if you run less than 13's without C-clip eliminators, driveshaft safety loop, trans/clutch scattershield, and a roll cage.

[@CheezyDee]

Different tracks, different rules. Besides, even a mildly modified 5.0 will easily do 13's, what do you think he'll do with a turbo, hmmm?

[@lilsammywasapunkrock]

+Mark “Just-Plain-Joe” Crawford yeah, but with that amount of power, if you shear an axle the whole thing flops out and destroys the 1/4 panel and you have a 50+lb tire and axle running down the track to hit something else.

[@ronbosley5932]

+lilsammywasapunkrock , yeah but your forgetting the caliper against the rotor will keep the assembly from flying out. You will notice it when you apply the breaks, besides the lack of forward movement.

[@ronbosley5932]

+ron bosley meant brakes.

[@lilsammywasapunkrock]

+ron bosley forgot all about the discs.

[@lexcedeboi1]

how come you didn't put in a c clip eliminator?

[@matman7546]

I know right? Why wouldn't you while you are at it. Or better yet put ford 9" ends on it

[@1HeavyWrench]

+Mark " just-plain-Joe" Crawford !!! So that means all 9-inch rear ends leak??? I did eliminator kit on a Dana 35 in my old Cherokee and drove it daily never had any leaks. That's just nonsense

[@matman7546]

I run them on the street. No problems

[@giterdun1864]

you don't have to clean that yellow paint off the gear?

[@giterdun1864]

no Giter Dun ... See the 2 year old post below ... it dissolves. your welcome.

[@ClemsonTiger2013]

Wow only a c clip holding each wheel to the car in the rear?

[@ootdega]

A c-clip and a big fat solid steel centering pin held in place by a hardened steel bolt wrapped in thread locker.

[@Mortalomena]

The clips slot in and the centerin pin holds them there, so its pretty sturdy. Not bomb proof but good enough.

[@p3l1k44n1]

C clip eliminators are just a bearing pressed on the axle shaft and it's held on by friction. The C clip is a mechanical thing that's not held in by friction. Choose your pick. Both options have their ups and downs. If it were possible, i'd choose both.

[@ericthecarguy]

I was going to say the same thing.

[@patw52pb1]

The danger is not from the C-clip failing, it is from the axle shearing and separating from the housing. Ford 8.8 axles are notorious for breaking, shearing splintering in the splines, just outboard of the splines and just inboard of the wheel bearing journal where the axle is a slightly smaller diameter and weaker. Once the axle breaks the C-clip can no longer retain the axle or maintain the axle's lateral position. This allows the remaining axle connected to the wheel to slide out of the housing and most times separate from the vehicle. This why most sanctioning bodies such as NHRA, AHRA, IHRA, PDRA, SCTA etc. require C-Clip eliminator/bearing retainer kits on Ford 8.8 equipped vehicles. Some argue that C-clip eliminators are not necessary and the rear brakes will prevent the axle from moving, however I have seen too many broken axle stubs along with the remaining flange and broken brakes separate from the vehicle when an axle breaks. C-clip eliminators do include a bearing that presses on to the axle with approximately 15 tons of force, incorporates a billet bearing retainer that bolts securely to the housing to safely retain the axle stub and wheel flange in the event of a broken axle. The Ford 8.8 is not the only axle/differential with this vulnerability, every axle with C-clip retainers are vulnerable including many Eaton/Spicer/Dana units and most GM axles. Here are some still images showing the areas prone to breaking and the probale aftermath. s1078.photobucket.com/user/RaceCarEngineers/media/Main/YT/Broken_Axle_Splines_zpsw34nczdw.jpg.html s1078.photobucket.com/user/RaceCarEngineers/media/Main/YT/Broken_Axle_Outboard_zpsdbx69zcb.jpg.html s1078.photobucket.com/user/RaceCarEngineers/media/Main/YT/Broken_Spline_8.8_zpskk60bdmc.jpg.html s1078.photobucket.com/user/RaceCarEngineers/media/Main/YT/Broken_Spline_Gear_8.8_zpsow1hps9e.jpg.html s1078.photobucket.com/user/RaceCarEngineers/media/Main/YT/broken%20axle_zpsu9panzpn.jpg.html s1078.photobucket.com/user/RaceCarEngineers/media/Main/YT/bronco-axle-2_zpskl5her2v.jpg.html

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

*THANK YOU* for the video, Eric & Brian! I especially enjoyed the editing job of the "cover torque sequence" with the delayed echoes of wrench clicking- it's so dead quiet in there! 2 questions: torque or Loctite on the caliper mount bracket bolts? (it wasn't shown, and I know most older GM are "torque to yield" bolts for that) and are those axle C-clips copper- or just some polished alloy?

[@ericthecarguy]

I just tightened the caliper mounting bolts down. They're not torque to yield. You mostly only find those on head bolts. I believe those C clips were copper.

[@MattExzy]

...the suspense is real.

[@Mandurath]

Looks good!

[@brandonscheuvront3322]

where's the installation now Eric?

[@macro820]

That outro sound clip is from the dyno isn't it! Sounds awesome man uuuu hurrry up with the videos hahahaha

[@ericthecarguy]

I'm putting them out as fast as I can. BTW I have about 40 ATM.

[@ericthecarguy]

That's a LOT of editing to get through.

[@macro820]

I'll fly out and help you edit haha Need them asap! :) Your hard work and dedication is always appreciated here Eric even if I am impatient..

[@ericthecarguy]

That's not the only factor. As it is now I work 6.5 days a week. I'd like to take a little break. In order to do that, I have to have several videos edited and uploaded first. In other words, I already have the next several weeks worth of videos ready to go, I'm just releasing them once a week so that I can have a little time to catch my breath. Mainly because I just wrapped up a marathon editing session last month that just about killed me.

[@macro820]

+EricTheCarGuy Don't die I don't think Brian can fill in yet. I don't blame you for wanting to take a break man you've earned it. Like I said I'm just very impatient I will just have to wait for you to edit out all your mistakes hahahaha

[@drunkingsailor2359]

Looks sweet

[@BoZmD]

So helpful!

[@cheesemons]

Nice outro!

[@ericthecarguy]

Thanks. It's the engine going into this car. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3KngHuja5J1gMU

[@cheesemons]

+EricTheCarGuy Yeap!! been spam watching that video too. I'm also wondering why is that video not getting more views.

[@EastMenloPark1650]

I have no idea why I get joy from putting together car parts 😀

[@Zezims]

Favorite part was the studded axles

[@vettecore]

When are you going to take us for a ride in the Fairmont? :) 👍

[@ericthecarguy]

At the end of the diff build. But after that I take the engine out and start putting the car together for real. Still working on that part.

[@vettecore]

+EricTheCarGuy Good luck. Looking forward to seeing the progress. I think this is the first build/writeup/how to video ever made. 👍👍

[@Chrisw678]

Can't wait. Love these. Had an 89 Fox and paid someone to rebuild/upgrade my gears and it's nice to know how much work and effort went into it. Great videos Eric, I want more!

[@ericthecarguy]

And you'll have it.:)

[@TazarZero]

Is there a book somewhere, or a general rule of thumb as to what gets lubricated and what doesn't? Because for someone who doesn't know any better, I probably would've put all the fasteners in dry. I've also never really heard of gear oil, and unless I'm just super ignorant, usually parts like bearings don't have much in the way of saying what to use to lubricate them. Video's like this are super helpful, but at the same time, some cars have nit picky parts on them that may or may not get covered anywhere on KZbin. Anyhoo, this is turning into a rant, so I'll stick to my initial question.... a book or general rule of thumb for what parts get what lubricants or go in dry??