ESO PVP Tier List Update 44

[@drevin64]

Cyrodiil is far too chaotic, I can’t imagine judging the PVP utility, well done!

[@Justanobody8472]

Make flail an aoe spamable that adheres to damage standards and remove the heal, make the beam an execute focused skill, extend the range of runeblades to ranged spammable standards and add flail's heal to the final tick of runeblades

[@jonicoe113]

Might have to finish working on my arcanist

[@exodusfivesixfivesix8050]

FRFR I am happy that I came back to this game RN when NB is actually doing what it should be in PVP

[@andrewmicallef9679]

Dk is what templar wants to be. Its great at standing its ground and rarely loses fights it knows are coming.

[@skulpturostone4621]

Templar is D-tier, trash, don't play it. Modern PvP is about mobility and if you stay in one place, you are done.

[@Kanarkowie]

@@skulpturostone4621 Bullshit. Templar is really good right now. You just have no idea how to make it. lol

[@Kanarkowie]

@@skulpturostone4621 Nonsense lol

[@Groovy_Baby_1911]

You must have never used a stamplar set up correctly. Super tanky and high damage.

[@Groovy_Baby_1911]

​@@skulpturostone4621you don't know what you say.

[@skulpturostone4621]

Hey, everyone! I started a poll on forum. About Templar's PvP starus. It's in Public Test Server section. If you have some experience on templar, please, come and join my holly crusade for making templar great again.

[@Phillsfan89]

Stamplar 2H/Bow is doing fine imo

[@Steve-zc3rg]

Been waiting for this thanks buddy 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@harrykleinfelter3538]

Lots to digest. My main is a DK, but I'm still experimenting with it since i don't have access to all the DLC.

[@Carnagopt]

Hey jake, great content as always. Any chance of an updated battlegrounds pvp builds guide video? Keep up the good work!

[@snewten8366]

Here my list S tier sorc solo , warden solo/heal, dk solo, nightblade bomber, necro bomber, templar healer, arcanist healer, Theres always a way to be S tier if you play where your class belongs.

[@iTARGIT]

Niceee, even though id put Arc either above or below DK. Only because of group comp, Dks are arguably better. But great tier list 💪🏾

[@joshuanwaneli4555]

Arc is dookie bto

[@devonbattig5879]

As a stamcro main, necro is far better than most people realize. I run around in two tank sets with 2450 mag recovery, 3500 stam recovery, 50K armor, and I still average a 5K-7K Dizzy. I just know how to build. Necro is my opinion is absolutely busted if you know how to play it and build it. It doesn't need to rely on crit to nuke people. I play the old school way. Dizzy, Blastbones, and Dawnbreaker. My combo hits for around 20K+. I have a clip of myself in a 1v2 against a DK and a mag sorc. I killed them both. If anyone needs help with a stamcro, I can have Jake link my build and upload my clips so you can see how good it is. I'm on Xbox, though.

[@Official_JakeClips]

I totally agree that Necro is a sleeper pick. It has so much potential!

[@maksusch]

Can we see ist pls :)

[@devonbattig5879]

@maksusch ask Jake if he'll upload it.

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@devonbattig5879 I don’t mind

[@devonbattig5879]

@Official_JakeClips I'll make some clips. Do you have Discord?

[@joesheppard5960]

I use venomous smite with the macabre and stormfist set as a dark elf nightblade may not be great but its fun

[@Sniperjones_007]

Not feeling ESO lately. Been playing for 10 years. Why the hell they would finally do a PVP update but have it be for battlegrounds is insane to me. Nobody gives a shit about Battlegrounds. I can’t even queue for them they are so unpopular. Meanwhile, Cyrodiil is pop locked every single week yet it’s received no attention for damn near a decade. What is Zos thinking???

[@Official_JakeClips]

Not to defend zos, but they did test player counts and popularity using the boosted weekends to see which game modes people liked. How many total players did BGs because more total players do BGs (but not as often) and the same community in greyhost is similar each campaign

[@Official_JakeClips]

But! Cyro will be updated as well in a W4 update just like IA and Bgs were

[@Sniperjones_007]

@@Official_JakeClips what are they updating in Cyrodiil? I remember the live stream people begging to hear about plans for Cyrodiil and the developers somehow ignored a full hour of comments.

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@Sniperjones_007 they haven’t given a date yet. I asked in the in person event. They’re looking at tweaks and updates, potential additions etc. how fast or slow it occurs could also be due to how receptive people are to BGs and does that increase the amount of new players into PvP etc

[@Sniperjones_007]

@@Official_JakeClips okay cool thanks for that information. I wasn’t aware they were looking into Cyrodiil. I think we all can agree that transparency and community feedback isn’t Zos strong suit. I’d like them to be more vocal with what they are working on even if it’s a ways away or the community will just continue being disgruntled.

[@Dingus2]

Never heard anyone say arcanist is top tier in pvp before. Especially since they get nerfed literally every patch

[@perantonhaugaardstoltze2]

DK is still S+ and allways has been insane damage and sustainability

[@brianherrera1390]

Why do you think they get merfed?

[@Dingus2]

@@brianherrera1390 not related to pvp. They have never been that great in pvp

[@nomadsland8322]

I have a snare-immune-speed-capped stam sorc I use in IC and it’s sooooo good. Don’t even have to lose much damage and with so much speed people have trouble hitting you so you’re tanky because of that. Perfect IC setup.

[@dylanwilkinson4933]

would love to hear what you run

[@xoth2306]

Yeah i would say that the necro still realy need alot of love maby even a complete rework for them to become competetive in pvp

[@demetrioshill8484]

Best race for stamina arcanist?

[@victorcontreras5703]

Is Cyrodil still a laggy mess? Or has it improved at all over the years

[@Official_JakeClips]

It improved after the hardware update

[@InfoSquad]

I only throw down likes and comments for Jakeclips.

[@Official_JakeClips]

🫶🫶🫶

[@breitsight3167]

I like the idea of less invisible nightblade bs in battlegrounds

[@vossboss220]

I like the idea of less nightblades

[@jonnybquicker2727]

Shut up noobs.

[@stonic5]

As a nb other nbs are free kills to me. Do you guys not use detect potions?

[@vossboss220]

@stonic5 I'm a max mag sorc, not a trend hopper I've been doing magsorc for years so inner light is always an instant slot. I don't have problems killing them especially considering most of them are bad. It's just annoying to deal with.

[@puertoricanpapi1356]

No it’s great. Fuck nightblades. You guys play like pussies.

[@codyray6993]

Okay so nightblade, dk, and warden are C tier. Are spec and arcanist A tier or is one of them actually S tier.

[@canada4279]

I keep getting told NB bomb build is in S category class for PvP or did they nerf it?

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@canada4279 I’d say it still is

[@thorncap667]

Me and some friends just started playing again. And I picked Templar for my class. We love to duel. Will I have a hard time winning? Thanks

[@Official_JakeClips]

I actually really like them for dueling

[@jaggedpromise]

Plar is still a very good 1v1 class, moreso for someone that is very comfortable with it. They may not be top tier but a good plar is still a menace

[@TheAverageJoee]

Do you have a u44 archanist pvp build?

[@Official_JakeClips]

Not yet

[@theoriginalcontentcompany997]

only way to make plar relevant is to abuse radiant glory as much as you possibly can

[@acemiyazaki7568]

nightblade vampire? anyone got good builds for that too?

[@saltiestterrapin8971]

Depends if you mind being squishy max damage, less squishy, tanky, there’s a lot of builds

[@prionyx5174]

If someone wants to see an actual tier list S++ Warden S+ S sorc A nb, dk, plar B necro C arcanist

[@Kanarkowie]

Warden only good defence, DD poor

[@snewten8366]

I really like this list!

[@Justanobody8472]

Arc has a real sustain and mobility problem

[@SurfGroups]

Great staff as usual! My pvp tierlist: S sorcs A nbs B wardens dks arcs C templar necros

[@justinklaus9662]

Bro Stam cro is actually really nice

[@hvdiv17]

All that matters is 50 into health and 14 in to what ever other stat this is hybrid era only max health matters unless your a max sorc then its max mag.

[@tonybu7529]

Nightblade and DK aren’t going to be nearly as good. Pyrebrand got gutted and the toggle on cloak really sucks. Warden is already OP right now and will continue to be OP in U44. For me Sorc and Warden will be S tier, with no other classes in A tier, Arcanist DK Nightblade in B tier and Templar Necro in F tier

[@Jorgenboi]

What makes you say warden is op? Just out of curiosity

[@tonybu7529]

@@Jorgenboi there’s something wrong with the scaling of northern storm letting it do way more damage than it should. Polar wind’s health based scale is also fucked. They can build 45k max hp giving polar wind an absurd tooltip while still able to explode people on sight with mech acuity and northen storm.

[@TheDraco175]

Really annoying that modern MMOs refuse to allow stealth characters to exist.

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@TheDraco175 tbf they’re still op

[@saltiestterrapin8971]

I don’t think this NB “nerf” is honestly going to change anything. Makes bombing easier, ganking easier, only affects brawlers really

[@DatKhajiit]

Well with brawlers that use shadowy disguise, they aren’t in shadowy disguise very long - so no, it hasn’t really done much. I love the change.

[@ryanhood5984]

Good video

[@stonic5]

Cloak is basically buffed to low ping players and gutted to high ping players 😢 300ms made me rage quit sorc because toggle and made me quit my first main the dk because eruption toggle being soooo janky. Esit: rn i sometimes hit cloal twice oe 3 times because it fails to go off. I cant wait to alt f4 after toggling off cloak non stop.

[@saltiestterrapin8971]

Same old pulls you out, sprint etc

[@Wraithbane_Gaming]

I main necro, and it's in need of a rework. The buffs they got don't really help pvp.

[@Jorgenboi]

Agree. On my one necro build that I think works well, I still use zero of the skills that got the buffs attached recently.

[@jahloveinfla]

i'd be curious to see a warden build from you. i don't play it much because it felt exactly how you said, like it was always missing something. especially playing brittleden, it's a ton of fun and thematic but felt like I had to give up utility to go heavy into ice stuff. disagree on necro though, maybe not Imp City but I feel like scribing only adds to necro, maybe a B tier.

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@jahloveinfla it definitely does add for the necro! I was in between B and C for BGS I think it’ll be A but dueling imp city and cyro it’s like C/D range. What warden sets do you run now?

[@jahloveinfla]

@@Official_JakeClips SPC mainly :) I only run my argonian warden as a healer right now. I've dabbled in the archive with it using leeching/Heartland COnquerer and it's decent in there as a tanky dps.

[@nightmare_man_00gamingden15]

Huh you know I wouldn't mind seeing a video on how to play tank in a pvp setting

[@makesaucenotwar]

Check out Luca cash, he has a few tank builds. Necro tank is the best by far

[@nightmare_man_00gamingden15]

@makesaucenotwar hmm I'll look i to that thanks

[@rhinosblades4205]

Nb is still S how do you put it in A the stealth change is a net buff if you know how to play it

[@Official_JakeClips]

You could argue it belongs in S tier, when I threw this question to a pvp group people wanted it closer to B/A but there’s a case for S

[@SlamDance87]

Necros good yet?

[@Official_JakeClips]

Better!

[@txchainsaw8907]

😊

[@acephim3588]

Stamblade still S tier to me. I can kill more than my sorc

[@Official_JakeClips]

But post PTS what do you think 👀

[@Takeavacation30]

Stamblade & sorc? You gotta be a noob….

[@acephim3588]

​@@Takeavacation30um sure buddy. I started last week lol hope that makes you happier

[@acephim3588]

​@@Official_JakeClipssorry mate just started

[@Takeavacation30]

@@acephim3588 exactly…. ESO is a relatively deep game with a bunch a different play styles & some people never become good at PvP…. Sorc & Nightblade so easy anyone can just start & be good with either of those classes…..

[@mikereap5815]

Necro should of been in F Tier. Im necro main

[@anantisocialsinsight]

How is the Arcanist versatile when their spammable has to be 1 of 2 skills for crux and beam is mandatory unless you don’t like damage. Seems to me like it don’t matter how you build them, the gameplay is the same. By far the most boring class in ESO and is heavily tied to one DLC. Feel out of place everywhere else.

[@kibawotv8629]

Templars are one of the best solo pve class in the game and a op pvper. The fact you can spam a shield atk is huge. Dnt think anyone else have a shield atk or a aoe fast skill that heals of dmg that way

[@DoyouknowtheHweii]

I have to highly disagree on Arcanist. First they dont have a high skill level nor skill output since arcanist is as you said a proc class which are completly automated in terms of damage + your defense is runeguard (automated) and the runeshield( very easy to play imo) same with ultimates from arca for example the beam ult its not like you have to cancel it for max damage or anything its just auto preassure. To its strenghts - its insanly tanky idk about next patch though but has a relativ low damage output compared to how other classes perform on procs or burst (which is a myth but probably exists). And mobility sucks on it so i would place it on A tier rather than S and its probably the easiest class to play again imo

[@SHARlNGOD]

Wtf is a 1vX explain

[@williamwilliams4538]

Well the devs Nerf my characters Nerf my gear sets pretty much nurse me out of the game I don't have anything left to play the game with anymore this is the end game for me I am done

[@Official_JakeClips]

What did they nerf??

[@Takeavacation30]

I’m looking forward to only having 2 teams…. Hate being 3rd partied. They need to nerf the teleport on sorcs…. If you main a sorc ima assume you dawg water at the game

[@Official_JakeClips]

But I’ve been a sorc for a decade

[@Takeavacation30]

@@Official_JakeClips if they just rework the teleport, then yall will be easier to kill….. only characters i consistently see getting 20+ kills in bg are Sorcs….. & they all play the same way…. That’s not good

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@Takeavacation30 tbf the teleport has been a base game feature

[@Takeavacation30]

@@Official_JakeClips what’s the best sets for sorc? Probably gonna end up making mine a PvP, I have 1 but it’s my crafter

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@Takeavacation30 I prefer crafty A, Death Dealers, and a combination of trainee and Druid

[@Damizify]

I say switch nightblade to S and arc to A tier

[@Durinho-qu1ye]

Do you even pvp ? Nb is 100% s tier

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@Durinho-qu1ye yep! You can see my old live streams, and I dropped it due to its upcoming nerfs

[@BiccMitchum]

yay first lol

[@simonw1252]

Bah!!! 😖

[@skulpturostone4621]

Templar is trash-tier, I dropped the game because of ZOS did that to my main.

[@Hulk_smashh]

Ive seen few good players make templar decent in pvp