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[@alfcmccoy]

It's Stephen A and Paul F. If you added Skip Bayless, they would be The Three Stooges.

[@clarencewalder2985]

Then why are the 3 stooges making millions of dollars, people listen to them AND some believing them? Let's just say both ESPN and Notre Dame need help because they are really not that important right now

[@diggingmystyle]

Add Shannon Sharpe and you'd have the Mount Rushmore of Stooges.

[@mostcfbfanshaveshitforbrains]

​@@diggingmystyleShannon interjecting, "Skip! Skip! Skip!" 372x an hour is the very epitome of sports entertainment media.. 😭😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@michaelbee2165]

​@@mostcfbfanshaveshitforbrainsI trust you're kidding because Shannon Sharpe is seriously dragging the bottom.

[@jamieking3062]

They hardly ever believe what they say. Just click bait!!!

[@herbertsutton4255]

That's what I've been talking about- Finebaum and Stephen A. Smith been saying stuff about FSU and Notre Dame and criticizing them for no reason. Both of them are on all fours for the SEC getting bent over along with Herbstreit. What the hell is wrong with them? One thing to say SEC got good football teams that's cool, but denying undefeated Power 5 teams out for no reason and making excuses do to QBs hurt is absurd!

[@exomake_mehorololo]

They have a reason! Any conference would gladly take these 2 teams and the money that comes with it

[@johnpruneda53]

Being a Michigan fan I had to put up with them 2 flapping there jaws since the sign stealing crap came out saying michigan without that happening and were a fraud,ok,couldn't be that they had a little bit of talent

[@gregster61]

Does Finebaum have any other purpose other than being the official comebucket of the SEC ?

[@joshhazelip7841]

Doesn’t ND have an agreement that if they join a conference it will be the ACC. What is the consequences if the join the BIG also all their other sports are already in the ACC. So how will they handle that? Leave all their other sports in the ACC and football be the BIG. I just don’t see how this works

[@Al-Rudigor]

​@@johnpruneda53everyone knew that Michigan was good. Guess who didn't? Their own coaching staff! They decided to cheat, and the whole staff knew about it. That happened. No more moral high ground for Michigan.

[@jper1245]

All these people that hate Notre Dame for not joining a conference are just mad that their team has to play within their conference... They always play one of the tougher schedules year in and year out and that's due to them not being part of a conference... Haters gonna hate

[@mwjr72]

Why does everyone care so much to push ND into a conference?

[@kineticstar]

Because, ND has the power to negotiate their own deal and can subvert the current football environment.

[@exomake_mehorololo]

​@@kineticstarsubvert to what? Forcing players to go to class and get an actual useful degree?

[@jonahkuchowicz6488]

People hate the corporations are taking over the sport, but at the same time they want Notre Dame to fall in line. Make it make sense

[@user-jy3vn4kd1h]

I don't care. They just shouldn't be allowed into the playoffs.

[@drizzle452]

@@user-jy3vn4kd1hbecause they generally play a top ten schedule every year? Not this year…they played a tougher schedule than most teams in the BIG10 this year. Most conferences have 2 or 3 big teams and a bunch of meh every year

[@JB-gx4lg]

It's all about the Big Ten and SEC right now. They dictate the terms going forward and everyone else, including Notre Dame, will play by whatever they decide to do. Notre Dame is a powerful program, but they have relatively little power compared to the top two conferences.

[@brytonmacpherson2050]

Notre Dame just signed an extension with NBC through 2029. ND isn't joining a conference within this decade. If Freemen keeps recruiting the way he is and he wins. It'll be even more validation that they don't need to join and share their revenue.

[@BrutusBBuckeye419]

Guess who also has a deal with NBC??? B1G come on down!😂😄😁🤣😜🤪

[@brytonmacpherson2050]

@BrutusBBuckeye419 I'm pretty sure it's espn or fox not NBC.

[@brytonmacpherson2050]

I take that back. They have a deal with fox, NBC, and CBS. ND does get 29 mil a year though. Not sure how much they'd get if they had to share with 20 other teams.

[@SpecialK32]

But they need teams to play. ACC missed out. If the ACC falls apart or lots of top teams leave they will too.

[@jaredslabaugh3181]

@@brytonmacpherson2050Notre Dame makes closer to 60 mill a year from NBC

[@atrain132]

There's no bigger mess in all of sports than FBS Division 1 college football. Even with 12 teams, they still make a mess of it all. Those 12 spots should go to the top 12 teams, regardless of what conference they are in. Now usually, those top 12 teams are in the bigger conferences, but that is also the way the system is structured. So change the structure of the ranking system, and system overall. If a team like Western Kentucky goes undefeated, makes it in the playoffs, and gets wiped out in the first round, so be it. There shouldn't be a 3 or 4 loss team in the mix, just because they are in what's considered a "power conference".

[@chuckwest7045]

There can definitely be a 3 loss team "in the mix" if they come from Big Ten or SEC. Besides those two? NO.

[@atrain132]

@@chuckwest7045 so how many different conferences are in the fbs, versus how many teams from only the two conferences sucking up 75% of the playoff spots?

[@chuckwest7045]

@@atrain132 One from the Group of Five. Four from the ACC/Big Twelve. Seven from the SEC/Big Ten. That makes twelve. If Notre Dame has a great season then they would take one of the at-large spots. Seems fair to me.

[@atrain132]

@@chuckwest7045 I'd say 2014 teams like the FCS Division 2. They've had a good system in place for a while now without all the dramatics. It's really fun and entertaining to watch as well.

[@jamesosteen4280]

I agree

[@charliecox1051]

If Notre Dame is no longer relevant, why are so many people posting videos about them? It does not make sense, cover the relevant teams so you can get more views.

[@DaveIrish66]

And yet you are posting about Notre Dame 😂😂😂

[@charliecox1051]

@@DaveIrish66 Well, I've been a fan of the Irish since I was in elementary school many years ago. You need to get better at reading into context clues and detecting sarcasm sir.

[@DaveIrish66]

​@charliecox1051 posted on wrong comment. Sorry

[@charliecox1051]

@@DaveIrish66 That's fair, easy enough to do. Go Irish!

[@rossrreyes]

Relevance?? Notre Dame is the only program with a singular TV contract. NBC does this because the numbers are very favorable, the numbers are… relevant. Very relevant.

[@joshuastamper641]

The only relevant independent team. The reason the Alabamas and Ohio States of the world don’t have their own TV contract is because they have such big contracts from their conferences.

[@thornehauser9511]

Can u imagine FSU and ND both went to big 10. Can u say POWERHOUSE!!!!!

[@ragmanintx]

There should not be any controversy. They run a solid program and graduate their students. What does hurt them is they do require their kids to go to class and do the work. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@SPDinMS3]

Dang academic standards

[@michaeloler1477]

For some reason you think other College’s are inferior education wise to ND. Live in your dream world all you want;opinions are like anoles, everybody has one.

[@deanvanmiddelkoop6816]

Copium injection here ⬆️

[@chrisboyer2077]

​​@@michaeloler1477 No, this isn't something we think, it's just a fact. You only think otherwise because you don't understand what you're talking about (specifically in regards to how ND does things). Please allow me explain. First it's important to understand and clear the air on this...ND fans do not think someone can't get a great education at another school. This is the myth surrounding the point that muddies it up. While ND is an elite academic University that is among the best out there, we aren't the best. But we do something unique that (to the best of my knowledge) even the Dukes, Stanfords, Northwesterns, etc. out there don't do...and the 'big boys' in college football definitely are NOT doing this. Every single school that we are referring to when academic standards is mentioned, is a school where a student or student athlete (including football player) "can" get a great, life altering, education and degree if they apply themselves. The problem is, in many cases, especially with the 'big boy' programs they aren't actually getting said education/degree...they "can" but they "aren't". Why? Is it because the school sucks? No, it's because the football program values the football results more than they value the academic side. So they simply don't enforce the academic standards at as high of a level. As long as the player maintains the minimum 2.3 GPA to be eligible by NCAA standards, they are good with it. On the surface it may seem like 'what's wrong with that?'. 'They are complying with NCAA standards right?' Well, nothing if you're OK with a kid just doing enough for a minimum GPA to be eligible to play, but then leaving without a degree when their playing eligibility is exhausted (or paying for the remainder of their education with FinAid or out of pocket). So yeah, they aren't cheating by NCAA standards if their players meet minimum eligibility GPA (unless they cheated to obtain that, which happens sometimes). But while not cheating, are they actually enforcing true academic standards? It comes down to earning a degree vs. having minimum 2.3 GPA (in the right semester) to be eligible to play. So here is where the big difference is that so many outside critics just don't understand. Notre Dame enforces the same academic standards on its athletes (even football players) as it does on regular students. But what does that mean? Notre Dame does not allow its players to play, unless they are on pace to graduate in 4 years. If a kid falls behind in classes to where he won't earn his Bachelors degree until 4.5 or 5 years...even if their GPA exceeds NCAA standards, that player is ineligible until they get caught up. This is a self imposed guideline because we actually care more about them leaving with a degree in hand than we do about football success. Don't get me wrong, we really, really, reeeeeeeaaally want the football success. Just not at the expense of using kids up for their talent and allowing them to leave without their degree. Julius Jones was one of our greatest RBs in the last 20ish years. He sat out the entire 2002 season...why? DUI, drugs, gang violence? No, because he fell behind the pace to graduate in 4 years. Once you understand this, it also clears up the HUGE difference in transfer portal use by ND. The vast majority of the time our transfers are Grad Transfers so with a Bachelors degree already in hand they don't have to measure up to the on time degree metric. We very rarely take Undergraduate transfers because in most cases, by the time a kid is into their Sophomore season (at MOST other schools), they are already too far behind to graduate in 4 years at ND (unless they do a metric shit ton of summer school). We're not going to bring in a highly talented transfer who we know will be 'self imposed' ineligible upon arrival because the credits completed that transfer over have him a year or half year off pace to graduate on time. This self imposed 'be on pace to graduate in 4 or don't play' which far exceeds the NCAA 2.3 core GPA requirement, is why we say we have higher academic standards. There are also some above and beyond math and language requirements that not many other schools require, but that's small potatoes compared to the on pace to graduate requirement.

[@bigkilla2608]

3.3 GPA to play football at Notre Dame & the 2nd smallest school in Division 1. Also if they were irrelevant then the failing ESPN wouldn't be talking about them

[@NOLES-kl4ft]

They been to the playoff twice and played In national title

[@kevinbond8966]

People seem to forget that

[@jeffreyburress2200]

@@kevinbond8966 Whenever they ran into an SEC team they got embarrassed. Got exposed for nothing but media hype.

[@kevinbond8966]

@@jeffreyburress2200 literally no one picks them to beat teams like Bama. Don't have to win Natty's every year to be relevant. How is the media hyping them when they're picking them to lose games against Bama?

[@evan1788]

Why doesn’t every football program be independent? This conference stuff is nonsense. Everyone crying about conference dying and tradition so on but in the same breath notre dame needs to tow the line. Look up ticket price for instance Purdue a big ten team plays Ohio state this year and nd which is the higher price hint they are green and gold go Irish! ☘️

[@Tyrannis07]

Go back to just 35 years ago. A lot of the best programs in CFB were independents. Notre Dame, West Virginia, Miami, Florida St, Pitt, Penn St, etc. They scheduled tough games and played for titles. From 1976-1989 Independents won 7 National Titles. Conferences have become clubs where validation is beating Vanderbilt/ Purdue or losing to Alabama/ Ohio St. It used to be that scheduling a FCS team counted as a scrimmage; now teams have to be penalized to not schedule 2, so they play Sun Belt or MAC teams, then run & hide at 4-0 to start their conference schedule. It's a joke.

[@cacogenicist]

I think 4 teams each for the B1G and SEC would be in the context of a 14 or 16 team playoff. Not a 12 team playoff.

[@matthewbednarek2602]

2 years ago it was decided ND couldn't get a bye for the first round. The only change for the format recently was going from 6 at-large bids to 7 which sounds to help ND since they need an at-large bid.

[@diggingmystyle]

Exactly. Not much has changed but these so-called media folks want to make ND relevant in the offseason again.

[@user-fb6zu9pg9l]

Maybe everyone should read Mike Golich's book, Being Norte Dame. In it, Mike points out that the Irish were everyone's biggest game of the season. Getting a chance to beat historical Norte Dame meant so much to do many. The Irish will always demand respect because of the brand of football they produce. Also playing traditional opponents, Navy, So. Cal, Stanford, Boston College (catholic jusiut school) and Perdue Univ.

[@johngrant7107]

Their all jealous. When notre dame is down so is college football. When notre dame is good college football prospers Why don't finebaun and Smith look at what notre dame stands for compared to these football factories. As a regular fan I'd live to debate these empty suits on this issue. I'd expose them.

[@jonsoule7421]

Golic is full of it, not biased at all. The truth is exactly the opposite - Notre Dame is no one's biggest game of the season. Want proof? USC/ND is the biggest intersectional rivalry in college football by far. There might not be a number 2. Now ask a thousand Trojan fans this question: if you could only beat ND or UCLA in any given season, which would you choose? The answer would be nearly 100% UCLA. This is the ugly truth of why ND won't join a conference until they have absolutely no choice left. The second they join a conference they're on the road to irrelevance. No more cupcake schedule where they are a must-win game for anyone.

[@user-fb6zu9pg9l]

@@jonsoule7421 you are obviously biased yourself fool. Since ND lays So. Cal. Every year, to them it is not "as" important as say Texas, or Penn St. But it is still important for bragging rights. N D may not play there again for 30 yrs. Plus, you moron, Mike's book came out in the early 90's, not yesterday. Plus, since they lay each other every year, what difference would it make between UCLA and the Irish. The final win loss is still important to the rankings. When's the last time either of those two Pac 12 teams a ranked contender? The Irish has been in the play offs a few times. Was your team there, ever?

[@user-fb6zu9pg9l]

@@jonsoule7421 find my rely to your moronic diatribe about one of college football's legionary rivalries.

[@M.B1s0n]

@@johngrant7107 _When Notre Dame is down so is college football_ Hm... So that explains why college football has become increasingly popular since the 80s while ND has been remained been mostly mid. 🤔🤣 Delusion at its finest.

[@jtjr26]

I think the PTB at ND are coming to realize that after this round or realignment the number of seats at the table are decreasing and if they want to remain in the mix they will have to swallow their pride, upend their traditions and join a conference or risk the very real possibility that college football will move on without them. In the end it’s all about the money and they will make the best deal they can.

[@exomake_mehorololo]

Yeah let traditions go to hell. After all who cares about traditions in college football. The more cookie cutter and NFL like the better...

[@ryanbrown8200]

ND will never be left without access to the CFB. College football would stand to lose way too much money.

[@jakeMontejo3272]

Notre Dame will get more viewers and fans who actually will travel to the game than any SEC or Big Ten team not named: Texas, Ohio State, Michigan and Georgia. They should get a spot over any team that has a similar record.

[@williamshort8516]

I still believe that Notre Dame's independence was driven in large part by their long time relationship with Dick Ebersol at NBC Sports. Ebersol was a Notre Dame parent and always seemed willing to overpay for TV rights. If he wasn't as willing to cough up the big bucks for so long they'd have probably joined a conference a long time ago. But now it's coming home to roost. Agree 100% that ND will ultimately have to join a conference.

[@ericlofroos2405]

Viewership equals money, that’s why they’re relevant Stephen “Ass” Smith! I’m not a Notre Dame fan, but I despise Stephen and that old irrelevant SEC commentator far more!! Go NOLES! FSU and Notre Dame will hopefully both go to the Big Ten. Screw ESPN and the SEC!

[@roris5882]

The only way the B1G would be affiliated with ND is if they become a full-time member for ALL their sports. The B1G already has ND written into their new TV contract to drive it's value through the roof. So ND can fold their NBC contract into the conference because NBC is one of the B1G's three media partners. All they have to do is join the B1G and ND's TV revenue would double.

[@heartbreak25]

Greg Flugar said that the new ND/NBC TV deal may be on an annual sliding scale which is why it hasn't been made public. Years that ND is playing weak games against the ACC then NBC pays less and vice versa. I think we all knew there was a max any network would pay for the Stanford, Navy, and Duke games. A home-in-home with an out-of-conference opponent means NBC will only get one of those games. And to your point, NBC is basically double paying for the ND/USC game or any games against B1G opponents that NBC may have rights.

[@xrexc3179]

There's no way the B1G gives the Irish a comparable deal as the ACC did. I think that commissioner is more intelligent than that. The may get some sort of temporary work-around(with temporary underlined) but I have a hard time believing the B1G would fall in the same proverbial pothole that the ACC is still trying to climb out of. That's just what my gut tells me but it talks a lot when it's hungry lol

[@CFBAddiction]

I agree, they might do it, but only if it had a pathway toward them being coming a full member. Like a four-year scheduling agreement, and then them joining in full.

[@TheLAGopher]

@@CFBAddiction Agreed. The but the B1G would never allow ND to play them for chumps by giving them full voting rights in exchange for a scheduling agreement as the ACC foolishly did.

[@xrexc3179]

@@CFBAddiction agreed. For as large of a TV share as Notre Dame may be, an open ended deal like the ACC gave them has little to no benefit really unless and until the end result is full membership. I can't remember who the commissioner was when the existing deal was cut but apparently his brain was on vacation whether his body was present or not. Seems like at the time it happened maybe the Irish led him to believe that deal would eventually result in ACC membership but I could be wrong. If that wasn't the case I don't know what the ACC was even hoping to gain. Notre Dame literally got every benefit from that deal and the ACC got nothing. One of the lessens in life it took me a long time to learn was to be able to learn from other ppls mistake without having to make them myself. Surely those in the positions to make these decisions have long since learned those lessens

[@heartbreak25]

Notre Dame asked Kevin Warren for the ACC deal during COVID-19 and was told no. Why would things change now when the B1G has far more leverage now?

[@AndreKing4]

@@TheLAGopheryou sound crazy. The B10 would bend over backwards for ND just like the SEC . Money talks . Notre Dame is a Brand

[@DaveIrish66]

ND is a brand that can sustain itself . Other programs would do the same if they could. Who knows about the future, but that's how it has been. I've never seen a hater doing better than those they are hating on.

[@docbradleydc]

I'm curious when some legislators with attachments to schools getting frozen out of this system start asking questions about the non profit status of some entities involved.

[@larrychannell7056]

Notre Dame is already in the Big Ten in hockey!!!!

[@tomrippey5231]

Exactly. They are only “independent” for six football games.

[@mglaid1989]

The ESPN rant was clickbait. Nothing more.

[@David-yv6ow]

i’m not a Notre Dame fan at all, but I recognize their importance to the sport. And if you don’t, then you are just not paying attention. Relevance has to do with how many people want to watch them play. Not when they want a championship last. That’s forrabble rousers, like Smith and Feinstein to blather about.

[@jimmyjam5453]

If the SEC is so good why do they need 2 guaranteed spots???

[@M.B1s0n]

Are you new to the game? In most years going back to the BCS days, the SEC has often had two teams that are championship worthy.

[@jimmyjam5453]

@@M.B1s0n then they won't need automatic spots. They should be able to get 7 or 8 teams in if they are that good. ..but no, they know there's going to be many years where they don't have Nick Saban to bail them out so they want an uneven playing field.... So much for meritocracy 😳

[@TheFatGandalf]

The better question is why are they allowing the Big 10 to have two also.

[@hcopenhagenh]

Money

[@JesusChristISTHEONETRUEGOD]

Jimmyjam, I absolutely agree with you! The SEC SHOULD HAVE 6 GAURANTEED SPOTS OF 12.

[@Famijoly]

In 1926 Notre Dame was very interested in joining the Big 10, but Fielding Yost and Michigan worked the opposition to Notre Dame's entry. After that Notre Dame thoroughly embraced the independent's role. Benefactors poured money into the football coffers as Notre Dame continued to build a national reputation by winning games against all comers from coast to coast. Their identity as a Catholic university served the football team well by being able to recruit high-quality players across the country simply because they were Catholic. Interesting that the Big 10, which is the logical conference for Notre Dame from a regional perspective, helped fuel Notre Dame's swagger as a successful independent by rejecting it now stands to welcome it a century later when the conference, like Notre Dame, has become national in prominence and in geographical reach.

[@chrisboyer2077]

Facts right here...everyone should read this to educate themselves regarding ND's independence in Football. We WANTED to join the Big 10, but michigan rallied the major players against ND based on anti-Catholic bigotry and blackballed ND from joining. So ND took on their independence as a badge of honor from this.

[@DaninVa-gt9nj]

Have read that if ND joins a conference before a certain year it has to be the ACC. There is no way that ND will join a conference that is suing a member. When ND joins the B10, their recruiting will sky rocket and so will interest in their games.

[@BrandoDTG]

Notre Dame has as many Playoff appearances and national title wins as Washington, with 1 less win in the playoff. As well as more appearances than Oregon, TCU, LSU, Michigan State, Texas, Florida State and Cincinnati. So how do you go to the playoff more times than those teams but be less relevant than those same programs? Something’s not adding up.

[@jefferyparker4277]

You lose every major post season game that your undeserved high rank has put you in for 30+ years. LSU, Texas, and FSU have all won national title this century. ND - not so much. NO one suggested TCU or Cincinnati was more relevant than ND. My question is why does ND's AD get treated like a conference commissioner? If we are gonna base things off what is happening on the field, it sure seems like it should Alabama's AD that has that power.

[@Al-Rudigor]

Really? TCU, MSU and Cincinnati?

[@BrandoDTG]

Well considering ND won a title in 1988, they’ve also won a title in this century. And again, they’ve even been to a national title game since the Playoff came around - Texas just made the playoff for this first time. I’m not saying ND can’t be questioned, but that means you also have to question all of the teams who’ve done worst than them from a winning standpoint.

[@BrandoDTG]

@@Al-Rudigor Yeah, according to the NCAA website, they’ve all been to the playoffs one time. ND has been twice, same as Washington.

[@jefferyparker4277]

@@BrandoDTGNo. ND has won a national championship in the last 100 years. They have not won one THIS century. As soon as those other teams AD's are in the room being treated like a conference commissioner I will question why. As soon as those teams go 0 for 30 years in major post season games and still get treated like royalty, I will question why. In other words, as soon as one of those teams pulls a ND (getting special treatment while under performing for 30+ years) I will question why. (Be proud of getting your doors blown off by Bama in that NCG. It was just barely more competitive that TCU vs. UGA. ND would have been lucky to finish 4th in the SEC that year)

[@LarryHatch]

ND got a pass from the ACC partly because of their influential alums, ADs White, King, Corrigan, and Cunningham, also President Hatch (WFU) and Chancellor Fox (NCSU). There apparently are even more outside NC. Fox voted against BC in round one and kept them out of the ACC for those years, only because she thought it would hurt ND's chances to join. She was a ND alum and also then on their Board of Trustees.

[@Fallout777]

Michigan fan here, Notre Dame- don't let your pride screw you. Look at the former PAC 12 and what happen too the whole conference. The PAC12 had lots of opportunities they let go because of pride and greed. Well where are they now, You're just ONE team. You need to suck it up and come to the BIG10. You know that's the best fit for you. The BIG10 is all about tradition, you're a good team that will add strength and fortify rivalries. times ticking.

[@danielhamilton7951]

Huge college football fan. I've not heard anyone talk about notre dame in 15 years. Not kidding.

[@aCycloneSteve]

If the SEC/B1G want 4 guarantee spots each it means they're afraid they won't earn the spots.

[@TheLAGopher]

More like the SEC/B1G know that college football is big business and they want to protect their brands by getting everything in writting. They are doing this because they can.

[@exomake_mehorololo]

​@@TheLAGophernot more like. Your point just validates op

[@ScoutShots01]

I agree they are probably terrified that some unknown/cinderella team comes by and beats them. Like a TCU, VTech and all those smaller schools that might have a once in 20 years run but that would mean the SEC has less winnings/championships but that’s against the law!!! I hate both the SEC and B1G but mostly ESPN cause I think they are the true culprits behind it. They are the ones pushing the money but NIL and the NCAA basically allowed this so we will see how it turns out in like 3-5 years

[@observer46-vh5bm]

Each of them will get at least 3 of the12, without guarantees. Add Big 12, ACC, G5, that is 9 of 12. ND can fight for 1 of those.

[@aCycloneSteve]

@@observer46-vh5bm I can live with that. My concern is SEC/B1G teams getting in on reputation rather than performance.

[@brewallday5124]

What constitutes relevancy? That seems to be one of the most common gripes about Notre Dame. If you say they aren't relevant, then what are the metrics that you base relevancy off of?

[@happynotredamefan3736]

We can’t join big 10 even if we wanted to we have a contract w/ acc that if we join a conference it has to be acc

[@rodharris3606]

How long will the ACC be around, if FSU gets out which looks more likely then not then others Univ. will leave too then what will ND do?

[@harwoodcarnal8523]

So exhausted with the inane perceived "relevance" argument against Notre Dame. Michigan happened to win this year, but their two previous championships were in 1997 and NINETEEN FORTY EIGHT. Somehow, they are perceived as relevant. They don't happen very often. Opining that Notre Dame isn't relevant is tantamount to saying WWII wasn't important because it didn't happen in your lifetime.

[@lonniethomas8276]

The most overrated and irrelevant school ever! The Michigan comparison sounds like jealousy. Go whining irish!! Lmao

[@andrewseberg5214]

And when was ND's last championship?

[@maize09blue]

Relevance in the College Football world is about "what have you done recently." It has always, and continues to be this way and recently, Michigan has won 3 straight B1G championship, won "The Game" each time and reached the CFP in the same 3-year time span and has won the National Championship. Those accomplishments make them relevant in the recent history, as it did to Georgia and Clemson when they had their run. Yes, Michigan had a drought, though not as long as ND, but they are now "relevant" due to recent success. Only Georgia can say they had better success recently, the rest of the College Football world could not match Michigan's recent strings of achievements. ND has not had success recently and would have to look back all the way in the 80's for relevancy.

[@rodharris3606]

Lets see the last time Notre Dame won a championship was in 1988 I think.

[@joeseddit]

@@maize09blue No it's not. I mean, sez who? You?

[@Sharky-zj2hk]

I’m a huge ND fan and live in Canada so I would love to see ND join the Big10 so that I could see way more games and renew the Michigan rivalry 🎉🥳🍻☘️

[@mikef3896]

Everyone should just stop scheduling non con games against ND and force them to join a conference. Big and sec conference schedules will already be difficult enough

[@DCSk8er529]

That's weak. That shows you're afraid of them.

[@mikef3896]

@@DCSk8er529 there will be no incentive to schedule them. Big and sec schedules on any given year will most likely already be playing 5 ranked teams in conference.

[@mikef3896]

@DCSk8er529 also, how does that equate to being afraid of them? I said they should join a conference, meaning they would play them more often. No incentive playing them in non con

[@DCSk8er529]

@mikef3896 How does it not? You want to make a point, prove it by actually beating them on the field, not by being a bitch and backing out. Be a man.

[@John_Hoover]

@@mikef3896No incentive? Any time a team beats a top 10 team (in conference or otherwise) it helps make their case for a playoff spot. Losing to a top 10 team doesn’t “hurt as bad”. Not to mention the ratings boost you’ll get playing them on national television. Of course there’s incentive.

[@reggiedunlop2099]

Notre Dame is one of the most storied programs in college football, and like the New York Yankees, Dallas Cowboys, LA Lakers and even Manchester United, they are hated by millions because of their success. But they remain one off college football's flagship teams and have legions of extremely loyal supporters. Most of these fans never went to Notre Dame and don't live anywhere near South Bend. Like it or not, they will always be "relevant."

[@Jshephoosier2012]

ND fan here, join the big 10 already! It will happen eventually and their rivals are in the big 10. Need to go the Chip Kelly way and have 2 conferences 60 some teams. ESPN hates ND, nothing new there. Does anyone even watch the talking heads on ESPN anymore?😂

[@mikejohnson9586]

Florida State is in Good Ole boy country, the deep south. Crazy southern fans. I just don't see the fit in the Big10.

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

Why is everyone saying that Notre dame doesn’t get a bye. Of course they do. Their bye is during everyone’s really tough conference championship game

[@johndodd6843]

I'm a UGA fan. What I know is that Notre Dame played the Dawgs in '17 and '19 and left it all on the field. Those were great, hard fought ball games. So they haven't won a Natty since 1988. When was the last time Penn St did? 1986. The last time for Ole Miss? 1962. When was the last time ND was "relevant"? When they played in the BCS national championship in 2012. Oh, you say, they got beat bad. TCU bad? Nope. Or were they "relevant" in their two playoff appearances. Well, they lost them both , you know. Sort of like Oklahoma's 0-4 record. Are they "irrelevant"? Notre Dame has won 19 games in 2 years. The exact same number of wins as LSU. Not dissing PSU, Ole Miss, Oklahoma or LSU. Just saying having one standard for ND and a different one for everyone else is silly.

[@NightRangerBlue]

It seems like some conference will make a special deal with and for Notre Dame.

[@ryanbrown8200]

Look no farther than their current deal with the ACC.

[@NightRangerBlue]

@@ryanbrown8200 and the Big East before that.

[@kevinbond8966]

Why is notre Dame relevant? For the last 15 years theyve been one of the most consistent program in the country.

[@CL_Duybah]

Actually it's bc they are Ratings gold. They can play Tuscon Community College and still pull at least 2mil viewers.

[@kevinbond8966]

@@CL_Duybah That definitely helps

[@djferg4669]

This channel is growing fast af

[@CFBAddiction]

☠️

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

And my goodness the knicks haven’t won since the early 70’s. They should never come out of that man’s mouth

[@mikejohnson9586]

Notre Dame, Stephen A, may not have won a national title in over 30 years; but, they have won almost as many as national championships as Alabama.

[@briggsofdisaster]

The Big Ten will NEVER give Notre Dame the same deal they had with the ACC.😂 When they join the Big Ten, Notre Dame will be forced off their high horse. I can’t wait to see that fanbase get humbled. It will be glorious!

[@TheIrishKing-1]

I mistake everyone’s making is this is only a two-year contract.. what you don’t know is Notre Dame is probably the only university that doesn’t need the tens of millions of dollars other colleges need as long as we’re in the playoffs we don’t care about the money they have more money than all the other colleges.. their ad on that cost $400 million. They raise that in just two years raised it themselves.

[@PauMaz]

Stephen A Smith and to a lesser extent, Paul Finebaum, are carnival barkers. Their comments are designed to be provocative and get “clicks” and eyeballs. Nobody takes them seriously. Much like no one takes ESPN journalism very seriously either. Notre Dame isn’t better than anyone else. But they try very hard to do things right. They don’t cut corners on admissions. They require their student athletes to be real students, take real classes and face real consequences if they don’t measure up. All at the same time of playing college football at the highest level. In a sense Notre Dame wants to be in the Ivy League 6 days a week and the SEC on Saturdays. It’s not an easy balance.

[@mglaid1989]

Spot on. ND is relevant because they earn. Not because they win. They may not get the ratings they once did but it’s still strong.

[@CFBAddiction]

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[@carletonbutler1785]

ND's athletic director is on the CFP committee with the conference commissioners. They have an equal seat at the table with the entire Big Ten.

[@ILDomer17]

The discussion about 2 auto bids for B1G/SEC is in the context of moving to a 14-team playoff, so there would NOT be just one at-large bid. Furthermore, the 12-team playoff is 5 conf champs and 7 at-large bids. Giving two more to B1G/SEC moves it from 5/7 to 7/5, and becomes 7/7 under a 14-team playoff. I don't agree with giving more auto bids to B1G/SEC, but it is NOT the doomsday scenario you misrepresented in the video.

[@brucelyonholt2001]

If everyone thinks that Notre Dame is so relevant, then they should have their spot outright. Period. And they can maintain their Independence. That's how I feel.

[@saenole66]

Good look at ND’s unique position in college football hierarchy.

[@eyeofhorus99]

Notre Dame’s traditional rivals are in the Big 10 with USC, Michigan, Purdue. Might as well take the plunge Irish and be one of us.

[@joenolan4917]

Michigan state also a classic regional rival

[@eyeofhorus99]

@@joenolan4917 I forgot about the Spartans. Definitely them too.

[@slibertas1996]

And Indiana is a Notre Dame rival

[@flyingirish31]

Na. We are good. You need us more than we need you.

[@slibertas1996]

@@flyingirish31 not in this day and age

[@drizzle452]

Who’s crying. ND knew about this playoff schedule for the past 2-3 years-how ignorant are these analysts? Jack Swarbrick (ND president of athletics) negotiated this. This way, people can’t complain about the 13th “data point”

[@davidrodgers7224]

I can say this about notre dame, they take every opponent's very best game no matter what

[@toddlogg]

The whole power 2 teams getting 4 spots is stupid and pure corporate greed thats ruining college football. I pray that doesn't happen

[@B1GFREAK]

Ohio state has the biggest fan base. Look at the data.

[@wayneyokley2418]

People that complain about joining a conference don't know the history of Notre Dame they tried to join the big 10 way back in the day they did everything possible. The Big Ten turned them down. So they built the program by themselves. Money will be the deciding factor and Money will always win out.

[@sarahmccoy1941]

I do not understand Notre Dame’s reluctance to join a conference. With so many traditional football rivals on their schedule (including Ohio State and Southern Cal in 2023), why not just join the B1G? Imagine a football schedule that on a regular basis would feature the Irish against Ohio State, Michigan, Southern Cal, Oregon, Penn State, and Iowa? Add to the list Indiana, Purdue, and so on. If the B1G/SEC idea for four conference bids goes through, Notre Dame most likely would be in the playoff every season.

[@jackhowe6607]

All they have to do is join a conference. Then they will see playing army and navy all the time just is laughable. Oh they play some power house teams. But usually getting beat by them.

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

Notre dame Jack wants everyone to believe that ND has a disadvantage when smart people realize that it’s an absolute advantage to be relaxing while all the other good teams will be playing another difficult game and half of those teams will be collecting another loss on their resume.

[@kevingranberry5983]

I would like to see Notre Dame join the Big Ten but I am sure Indepence benefits them. Being in the Midwest the Big 10 has natural rivalries for ND.

[@romanmoronie]

Not an ND fan (Michigan class of 75) but I live just north of S Bend and am surrounded by ND people. I recently did a job for an ND grad attny. (we have a number of them around here) of an estate that was owned by a MAJOR ND donor; maybe even the largest donor; the kind of donor that has a building on campus named after them. He related to me that even a year ago, now, the ND PTB were concerned not only about having to join a conference, but if not, being able to play quality opponents. So while ND may play coy, there is real concern in S Bend. The estate was really something. Most sold off awhile back but it originally had 3 very nice homes, 3 miles of SJ River front, a chapel and a fire station. How cool is that?

[@danhalstead705]

I'm in Elkhart, and Michigan class of 95. That estate sounds awesome. The more power that B1G and SEC have, the less ND will gain by playing with the ACC and Big 12, and the more the B1G/SEC can push them out on an island by not scheduling them. That said, one hope they have left is that if they can make it deep enough into the playoffs every year, they don't have to share that playoff money with anyone. Which would help bring them closer to the B1G/SEC teams in terms of revenue, although still not equal. But that's a lot to bet on. I think you're right that they're more open to joining up than ever, and the younger people in their fanbase are too. The Big Ten contains most of their traditional rivals at this point, and once Swarbrick steps down, I believe anything and everything is on the table.

[@romanmoronie]

​@@danhalstead705The family name is "Morris" and it's located on Morris Rd. in Niles Twp. between Niles and Buchanan. I did it (appraisal) for estate taxes. It was 1 of 2 large estates I did that year; the other being the Mohammed Ali estate in Berrien Springs, originally owned by Capone's Attorney. The house had a tunnel to the river (discovered when they dug the pool resulting in a pool 14 ft. Deep) and a grade level walk in cooler, a very unusual feature. So unusual that Ali's wife brought in a psychic to confirm what everyone is thinking

[@heartbreak25]

I live in Chicago where ND is the #1 college football team for the city. Though I'm a PSU alum, my ND friends are definitely coming around to the idea of joining the B1G. It's not even about playoff access. To your point, they're concerned about scheduling and the potential financial disparity. They know they can't be independent if the B1G/SEC starts revenue sharing with players from the TV deals.

[@jonathanloesche4723]

That's why they had to cut the ACC deal when they did. Their schedule was getting increasingly front loaded and then a bunch of G5 schools aside from Standford/USC. Notre Dame hasn't been a true independent since that point. It effectively plays a conference schedule (5 ACC games, Stanford, USC, Navy) every year. They're not going to be able to fill their schedule with quality teams if the ACC folds.

[@Czekaje]

The only good thing about SB is the Costco two miles south of the border. ND can go to the Pac2 or the MAC. Exit 12 I94

[@mostcfbfanshaveshitforbrains]

There's nothing funnier than your average cfb fan know-nothing discussing Notre Dame and their football independence.. Thanks for keeping me smiling, America! 👍🏾😁

[@jimbomueller7279]

Been a die hard Irish fan forever but it is time to join the big 10. In all sports. We used to play 3-4 big 10 teams back in the day I miss that. I hate playing these ACC teams not all of them. Go Irish

[@DavidGunter-bo6hq]

Until Florida State elevates their academic standards (AAU) they will not be invited to the Big 10.

[@williamdiehl117]

The BIG10 is already at 9 conference games - SEC is at 8 conference games, and likely will go to 9 in couple years especially if ESPN offers up some more money. The schools in these conferences already play basically 1 warm up game against a low end DI program from a mid level conference, and then most schools have a Huge rivalry game that they play every year. If that school is not in the same conference that adds yet another game. So teams from the Big10 and SEC are likely each going to have at most 3 games open to schedule out of conference major opponents (more likely 2) but will they as their conference schedules continue to get tougher. With all the moves to partner with each other the SEC and Big10 may move to some sort of cross conference scheduling agreement to generate high value/media share games. (Thinking like ACC/Big 10 Challenge in basketball) That would add value to both ESPN/FOX and the conferences and the contracts they share if that happens that would take some schools down to 1. The pool of schools that Notre Dame wants to schedule and needs to schedule in order to have a meaningful schedule has shrunk and will continue to especially if the Big10 or SEC expand any more. Given that the vast majority of Notre Dame's historically important rivals are in the Big10 it only makes sense to join the conference. Those schools in no particular order are (USC, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Penn State) They also have a decent history with Florida State, Miami, Pitt, Boston College, and Georgia Tech out of the ACC, although most of those signifiant games were many years ago and many were when one or both schools were independent and not affiliated with a conference. There is also a long history with Stanford who is at least for now in the ACC. If the ACC falls apart completely, a couple of those schools are likely to end up in the Big10 while the SEC and Big12 pick up more members making the Power 2 (SEC/Big10) and then the Big12 with everyone else miles behind. The moves that happened over the last couple of summers (Texas/Oklahoma to SEC) and (USC/UCLA/WAS/ORE to Big10) just made it a matter of when not if anymore that Notre Dame joins a conference. It could go a few more years, but when the Irish's next TV deal is coming due and as the paydays of SEC and Big10 members continue to grow Notre Dame will give up independence and join the Big10 where most of their academic peers are.

[@vangaffney8453]

BYU and Lavell Edwards are nationally known for the ones who "invented" the forward pass.

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

Money is relevant. The ACC loves Notre Dame. When Notre Dame comes to town the schools quadruple the price of the tickets and still sell out. Think about last year. Half the teams scheduled a prime time night game. The vast amount of greenbacks that Notre dame creates make them 100% relevant. Hey Stevie eh, bring on some AD’s to your show and ask them if Notre dame is relevant. lol ya putz

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

And he’s not as stupid as he sounds. He said the Irish are irrelevant knowing how friggin relevant they are. Click click click click click click click

[@reverendphillipwaselik7467]

Are you kidding? No relevance? lol. Where have people been?

[@patrickboren2211]

B1G/SEC deserve their own playoff, see ya, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! Won't be watching B1G/SEC football in that case. I'll be happy with XII/ACC/PAC/G5 CFB true championship without all those little ND style conferences. Just Do It! As they often say, "Put up, or shut up!" Rest of conferences not giving any extra AQs or extra CFP revenue, don't like it? F*** O** and leave already.

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

Considering that ND is 30 and 1 against the ACC in the last 31 regular season games. Then the entire ACX is irrelevant

[@georgehayden4897]

Every conference should ban them and let them stew in their own failure

[@harleyatkins2008]

Over the last 50 years of college football, Notre Dame ranks 16th in wining percentage. In those same 50 years the Irish have won 2 national titles. In those same years, Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Georgia, Nebraska, Southern Cal, Oklahoma, and Miami have won more games and more national titles. How long will greatness in the time of our grandfathers and great grandfathers carry Notre Dame?

[@jodylane9889]

If any program thats struggling would just look, Notre Dame hasn't been great since Lou Holtz left, Nebraska has been the same since Tom Osborne left, what do both have in common? Both coaches ran option offenses at those schools, even in an era where teams ran the ball a lot defenses struggled to stop option offenses, in today's Pass Happy football, the option would be even harder to stop so any team that's been struggling for a while should go against the grain and start running the option. Still today seeing Notre Dame and Nebraska not running the option offense just doesn't look right to me lol

[@johnboltz2768]

I think if FSU and ND do join the big Ten is done and the SEC will take what’s left of the higher quality brands in the ACC however I do feel like they need to grab someone or 2 regional teams to help FSU with travel

[@markraymond7667]

Not sure if FSU has enough leverage to force the B1G to take a regional travel partner. They will just count their blessings that they received that 20th spot. If the B1G stops at 20 with FSU and Notre Dame then the SEC will likely add UNC, UVA, Miami, and likely one of Clemson, Duke, or Georgia Tech. Whichever combination provides the most revenue. Probably Clemson, but bringing in the Duke vs. UNC brand is mighty powerful in its own way.

[@johnboltz2768]

@@markraymond7667 I don’t get sense that FSU wants any regional partners in fact I think they like the idea of being the only Big Ten team in the southeast but could be wrong

[@markraymond7667]

@@johnboltz2768 I agree. I haven't seen any push by FSU fans to want to drag another ACC school along with them to whichever conference they join. Arguably their biggest name rival, Florida, is already in the SEC and would keep playing them regardless of which conference they are in.

[@briggsofdisaster]

Dear, Notre Dame We will see you soon enough. Your independence is on the clock. Big Ten membership is inevitable. It’s only a matter of time. Sincerely, The Big Ten

[@ChrisSadowski-pp1np]

It's kinda early in the day to be drinking...

[@briggsofdisaster]

@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np It must be you who’s drunk if you don’t see the writing on the wall… Everyone else sees it, but I understand the human mind can be powerful when one has committed to denial and delusion.

[@ChrisSadowski-pp1np]

@@briggsofdisaster I'm not a fan of any particular team in college football, even though I think Oregon has cool uniforms, but you do realize that ND is locked in with NBC till 2030. They have no interest in the BIG despite being formally invited at least three times. How do I know this? They pushed the hardest to have Standard and Cal , regular scheduled teams to be added to the ACC. If they had any intention of joining the BIG they would push the BIG to add them considering they will already have USC. As for not having a first round bye in the playoffs for not being in a conference they've already stated they don't care about that. If the ACC dies that would cause problems cause they need a conference for non revenue sports, hockey is BIG.

[@briggsofdisaster]

@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np I’m aware of the 2030 deal with NBC. I’m also keenly aware that the Big Ten will also be renegotiating for their next TV deal with Fox, CBS, and NBC in 2029-2030. NBC has publicly stated that they’d prefer Notre Dame to schedule more Big Ten games. Last year proved that those games are more profitable for Notre Dame and NBC. In regard to the ACC, it’s dying and will most likely be dead by the time Notre Dame negotiates their new deal. The Big Ten is playing chess, not checkers. Notre Dame is doing the only thing they can do at this point and hold out to try to up their value. The thing is, the Big Ten is already and will only be more valuable by 2030. The Irish probably won’t have a home in the ACC and they sure don’t want to go to the SEC where academics don’t mean squat. The walls are closing in whether they like it or not. It’s inevitable that a choice will have to be made. The B1G will most likely be that choice.

[@paulwilliams8982]

Dear delusional BIG TEN fan. The BIG TEN just wants ND's TV money. Thats all. ND would be absolutely stupid to ever give them a single cent of their contract money.

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

If relevance were based on championships then yes Notre dame and 111 other programs aren’t relevant either

[@RedWingsninetyone]

ND is already a B1G member in hockey. Their size and location makes the B1G make the most sense.

[@retireorbust]

Well, these dudes are neither Irish nor Catholic or maybe BC Fans. They're part of the people trying to force ND into a conference. It's wrong. They're wrong. Now concerning the SEC and the Big 10, let them go their own way. No one wants to be NFL light with paid union members loosely affiliated with a university. I think the majority of us want amateur athletics with a cap on nil. All I can tell you is if the players become employees I'm done. I think you'll see very many empty seats. The media will put in CGI crowds to sell a lie.

[@observer46-vh5bm]

Why would the B1G bend over for ND? All in for ND and FSU to BIG, UNC and UVA to SEC.

[@robertrodes1546]

I'm extremely skeptical that the SEC would cooperate with the Big Ten to force Notre Dame to join the Big Ten. That they would facilitate in any way a power grab of that magnitude from their chief competitor is a non-starter for me. Therefore, the idea that the SEC and Big Ten are both advocating for four AQ slots so as to choke off the path to the playoff for Notre Dame is difficult for me to take seriously. As such, I can't at all see Notre Dame being close to joining the Big Ten.

[@CFBAddiction]

🤔

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

And one last thing. Goggle top 10 watched college football games on television and tell me there’s not 2-3 ND games every year. MONEY MONEY MONEY makes ND relevant…. Ya putz 😂

[@braddorholt1070]

B1G adds 4: ND, FSU, NC and GT

[@joeseddit]

If they're so irrelevant, why are they talking about them so much?

[@tonywlaschin7842]

0% chance Notre Dame will get an ACC deal from the BIG

[@mikeryan5088]

I don’t think it’ll just be Notre Dame and Florida State. I think both Clemson and Virginia will also be coming along. Or Clemson and Georgia Tech. And there’s a limited history between Notre Dame and GT. 26-6-1 series record seriously owned by ND. But they’ve played each other a bunch of times. GT is in Atlanta, a huge market and again in a new market in Georgia, like Florida if FSU goes BIG TEN. I think they would love North Carolina and Duke, but I don’t know enough about North Carolina law that supposedly would nix that?

[@jdwilmoth]

Will Notre Dame is going to be crying when they left out of the playoffs because they don't have a conference championship and Notre Dame isn't all of that Stephen A Smith is right they have been a relevant for years

[@FLBlazerEns]

Mami is an AAU school. They have more than the standards to get into the B1G if they wanted to. Please fact check yourself because this is embarrassing to say on a published vlog.

[@kirancourt]

I'm so tired of CFB people using the word "relevance" as if only the CFP winners are relevant. CFB is relevant to its fans...millions of them. I don't care if its Utah State, Michigan, or a tiny D3 school - everyone loves their own team regardless of what the greedy networks say.

[@FurlogTheGiant]

after a few years of USC sending their volleyball team to NJ these coast to coast conference will collapse the football teams will go independent conference will be for basketball teams and other bs then the ND model will be standard the haters have hated on ND for ever its just dreaming

[@CFBAddiction]

I think football, basketball may end up being separate from all other sports. We shall see.

[@adam6072]

Colleges don't care about players. They care about money. If there is enough money to be made, they will send their players anywhere.

[@Eaa-jz2wj]

Fsu and ND have played against each other a lot so that would make sense for them to be partners to enter the B1G ,but I hope there are no weird clauses for Nd joining the B1G , just join like everyone else or not .Go Blue !

[@happynotredamefan3736]

Someone tell FSU we beat ‘em in 93 and we are the champs

[@MichaeLMahoney-kr8sg]

There is no con to this. ND not playing another real good team in a conference championship is a plus. Conference champions have to play 16 games to get the natty. ND would also play 16 games to win the natty. If the loser of the conference champion is included in the playoffs they would need to play 17 games to win the natty. 😊

[@notredamon2922]

I think ND could start a conference that could potentially be the 3rd strongest. FSU MIAMI CLEMSON OKST BAYLOR TCU TX TECH UTAH ARIZONA ASU WASHINGTON. Give it a great name and sign the papers