Should the Chiacgo Bears Trade for Maxx Crosby to Block the Lions' Power Move?

[@Voysh2Voysh69]

I’d almost prefer the Bears going and getting Travon Walker from the Jags. Walker’s still only 23 years old and was the number 1 overall pick 2 years ago. We’ve seen Eberflus and Eric Washington develop these defensive linemen. Gervon Dexter has exploded this year. Sweat’s been a beast since day one. Darrell Taylor and Austin Booker keep showing flashes. You could probably get Travon Walker for a 3rd. That’s a bargain deal and you give Eric Washington, who is a phenomenal defensive line coach, a 23 year old DE who is a former number 1 overall pick.

[@JeffLudington-m6t]

Agreed

[@thescrolls9190]

The answer to Detroit’s dominant O-line is a dominant D-line. If you can get Garrett or Crosby do it.

[@jdvberg340]

Such a chess match! 🍿

[@adamgorsky8422]

Not if the cost is mortgaging the future, draft capital is more valuable long term and in a bigger picture, I want Crosby too, but ide rather be good for a long time

[@nilehawkins7878]

Ryan ain't spending all that money for no old dogs. We're good enough to get whatever extra additions we're going to get, but they are not going to break our bank. Ryan does not believe in old players. If that was the case, we'd have got Judon.

[@Justsumguy461]

What offensive lineman are you picking with those 3 draft picks that have a bigger impact than Crosby?

[@gtrrealreels7339]

Well, 3 solid players on the O line with potentially 1 being great have a bigger impact than just Crosby or Garrett!!!

[@AkamatsuCreative]

@@gtrrealreels7339 How many instant starters are we drafting in 2025? And in 2026? And if it takes til 2026for the O-Line to be fixed then a lot of other issues with personnel will have emerged. The O-line will have to be addressed through FA AND the draft, in all likelihood.

[@chazzhammer1]

Unless you get pressure on the QB of the good teams, we’re gonna get carved up. Max Crosby is a difference maker. As long as you come up with a deal that doesn’t destroy your 2025 draft then you should do it.

[@TheOmnisProject]

This reminds me of the summer they picked up Khalil Mack a little. They were already a good defense, they picked him up and turned into the best D in the NFL…that defense got them into the playoffs. Only this time we’ve got Caleb, DJ, and Keenan instead of trubiscuits

[@anthonyrusso7585]

Disagree with you guys. It doesnt matter who we put on the line, no team is going to be able stop both Maxx Crosby AND Hutchinson at the same time unless they have two hall of fame tackles. How many teams in the NFL have ever had that? If detroit gets another elite pass rusher, they will start wrecking games in the division and the gap between the lions and everyone else is widened. The bears window is opening, there is logic in Poles getting aggressive to go get an edge, then you can spend a whole offseason to plug 2 holes (worst case scenario) on the offensive line.

[@OD_green7]

Totally agree, my line of thinking as well. It isn’t going to just be for one season and Hutchinson will come back eventually. Not even the Lions O-Line would be able to block those two rushers over the course of a 60 minute game.

[@Jawsnake]

Idk if Hutchison is going to be the same when he returns. Full snap is a bad injury and would be a career ender without modern surgery. Even modern surgery can’t recreate to the fullest though

[@alanlopez9829]

I agree, no rookie offensive lineman will be blocking hutch and max next year and the years to come 😭

[@ggriesenauer]

Pat isn't wrong. I've been watching The QB School with JT O'Sullivan and he does a great job breaking down the plays and calling out flaws. It's actually a bit scary when I see what JT points out with the Bears O-line blocking. The Bears have gotten better, but still a long way from elite. I would love to land Maxx Crosby or one of the other elite pass rushers. But we gotta prioritize protecting our biggest asset in Caleb Williams. The Bears can't win anything if he's on his back every other play.

[@gregd76er]

Thats a great channel.JT teaches so well

[@jasontoy1261]

​@gregd76er only thing Is who are they gona get for the oline help that's worth while as far as a trade I do agree we need oline help much more then dline but you gota trade for best players you can that will help the team a elite defence will help are rookie qb as well but 100 💯 need online help more 😉

[@Chitex03]

What I fear is the offense will revert back to the Texans game once they face the dlines and blitz schemes of the divisional teams. All are loaded and they’ll blitz constantly to throw off Caleb’s timing and reads.

[@golfrrm]

As we are talking about improving the O-lineman we can also go back to the 9th pick of the draft. As much as I am a fan of Rome and hope he has great success with the bears and this is NOT about him. It's about not taking a Lineman on either sides of the ball. Bryon Murphy was there or even a good LT could have been taken at the 9th pick. Go back a year earlier and Jalen Carter was sitting there at 9 as well. I know retrospect is always 20/20 but there is fair criticism to be had and I am a big fan of what Ryan Poles has done.

[@TheBackyardBirdCo]

Fair

[@justinbeynon7980]

Build an inexpensive homegrown O-line through the draft. DO NOT trade away the top of your next 2-3 drafts to get another edge. Rookies are cheap. Our window is not open yet. We need another 2 home run drafts to be set for the long haul.

[@nathancampbell1588]

Goff is good indoors just wait till comes to chi in December

[@cruuuzzzzzer2]

Wonder how Caleb will do as well.

[@nathancampbell1588]

@cruuuzzzzzer2 well he hasn't proven that he cannot do it unlike goff

[@nathanbabcock8800]

​@@nathancampbell1588 LMFAO stupid bears fan L😂😂

[@slappyjones2136]

We should not. We should build our team properly and not pull a Ryan Pace. Patience. Build

[@ralphswift6346]

Exactly 🐻⬇️

[@Bearlissimo]

Offensive Line is what we need to fix, it's no coincidence that the Offenses of the Lions & Vikings work well, they've invested a ton more on O Line.

[@homercuts]

Bearmissio know what up

[@OD_green7]

We should absolutely do everything we can to prevent an available STUD player in their prime at any position from going to a division rival.

[@spaceghost8995]

NO. Scared franchises do silly things like that. You guys all whine about the Bears O line but now you want to give away picks for Crosby? How you gonna draft O line when you got no picks? You don't worry about where Crosby goes, you draft linemen to block his ass .

[@bingo8789]

Especially when that division rival can beat anyone in the division WITHOUT said available STUD.

[@bingo8789]

@@OD_green7 #OnePride

[@GraceNDaPlace]

​@spaceghost8995 you are correct we are MEN, we are are not to let emotion get in the way....we have done dumb ish like that in times past...

[@matthewnapoleon125]

​@@bingo8789they can't beat the Bears. Last year the bears beat their ass for 7 quarters. The lions outplayed us for one quarter lol

[@Chitex03]

Crosby and Sweat would each be multipliers that would wreck havoc on any QB in the league. I know we still need to build the OLine with our high draft picks, but landing Crosby would seal the defense for years to come.

[@darriouslockhart4118]

No one is trading quality olinemen this time of the year. The o line has to be handled this offseason. It’s getting Max or Myles is over kill. I wouldn’t jeopardize the future of our team for those guys.

[@RyanJohnson-zo5hs]

Hopefully they will take both and a third and then use the first and two second round picks on offensive line

[@troystephens5735]

We had a good d line once and once teams learned just do quick slants and quick routes, it didn’t even matter. We had Mack, hicks Goldman and etc. fix that oline

[@samuelmartin117]

How many games did those 3 play together?

[@xar3244]

Isn't that how they ended up trading for Chase Claypool?

[@OD_green7]

That would be an illusory correlation. At surface level, one would cite that you’re correct but digging deeper reveals the aforementioned illusory correlation. Poles wasn’t just trying to block a division rival in the Claypool trade, he genuinely was trying to evaluate Fields and thought he would help the WR room to be able to make the biggest decision he’s made yet - QB.

[@christr1ut87]

I don’t know how the Lions would be able to afford Crosby or Garret going forward.

[@joncasec]

Saw the question in the thumbnail and immediately said no. We already blocked a divisional rival from getting another player under Poles when we traded for Claypool and how did that turn out? Not to say that Crosby would come to Chicago and immediately become a terrible player, but why make a move thinking about another team and what they might do? The Bears have to focus on making their own team better and it’s a much more difficult task when you don’t have draft capital.

[@AkamatsuCreative]

Another Devil's advocate point-->Why is the assumption that you can't fix the offensive line if you sign an impact-making defensive FA? You can't predict the timing of when certain stars become available. Look at what signing Derrick Henry did for Baltimore. And You can't necessarily instantly solve your O-Line problems through the 2025 draft, even in the top rounds. You can draft starting O-line with 2nd and 3rd rounders. Also, you can NEVER have enough pass rush, and the D-line is only a Montez Sweat injury away from being really mediocre. It's far from 'set.' Also, saying We'll be 'ready' to compete for a Super Bowl only when a specific set of ducks are aligned is not the way things work. Sometimes ambitious personnel changes can dictate when you're SuperBowl ready. Not saying I think we should trade for a Crosby or Garrett, but just that doing so doesn't mean we're forced to stand pat with a bad O-line. You have to multitask, be agile and be opportunistic to change your team's fortunes.

[@alexanderferdkoff9974]

First, quality OL personal is simply a rare commodity and there are none available in this trade market. Second, you have a top 5 defense already and adding Crosby will make it this unit #1 in the NFL. Against the OL's and the QBs you are facing within your own division it will be critical to have a pass rush generated by the front 4 without bringing extra personal. Third, this narrative that you "don't trust" Poles to bring in OL help in the off season is ludicrous. Every GM makes mistakes, the question is how often vis a vis other GM's. Ryan has drafted well, he will fix this issue. The question is what does Crosby cost. If the Bears can leverage Herbert (5th round value), 1st rounder (25), 2nd rounder (26) for Crosby I think it will make the Bears instant super bowl contender.

[@tkaki6029]

I wouldn’t trade any firsts for him. Let the lions deplete their picks for him.

[@iwanttochangemylyfe]

Bro you the same guy who wanted keep Justin chilllllll

[@DouglasKeyJr]

Here’s the thing…if we make that move, we better make SURE we recruiting OL to make our team better! I’d love him or Myles, but we need a LT, Guards, & Center

[@Gateseleven]

why do you credit all the defence found to poles, i recon Fluss like it or not had even more to said, on who was on the list to get.

[@matthewsdonnelly]

Austin Booker can become a star pass rusher too. That's why we are not going to do it. We need to give this rookie time out there to develop. O LINE PERIOD.

[@Beardown451]

Pat is totally right. Being a responsible gm and getting those pieces who can stop those superstars is key to winning games and being a successful team. We already know poles doesn’t want 2nd rd picks. Crosby contract is extremely workable for a top end DE. Garrett is a game changer. Those guys don’t become available too often. But shea is right too. Gotta protect the franchise so Caleb has time to be special

[@mclew1234]

We absolutely should do whatever is necessary to keep Crosby or Garrett away from DET or anyone else in the division. We still have $70 mil in cap space & most of the starters outside of Allen & Jenkins are already signed for next season. Jenkins is likely being allowed to leave & draft a new Guard in the first 2rds, but if he's resigned we don't need the pick so pick you poison on that. If we did the Mack deal again (people forget we got a 2nd back in that deal) we would have 2 2nd Rd picks in both the next 2 drafts where we should be still getting starting quality players.

[@keithk1559]

Build thru THE DRAFT!!! The Bears are in a great position to be really good for a while, be patient and build thru THE DRAFT. 🐻⬇️ ✌️✝️

[@KennethHults-xo3yr]

Bears should keep their picks...1st on pass rusher ( less available ) , both 2nds on OL...may get Arizona tackle and Arkansas tackle, both can play guard also...or Ratledge...lot of RB projected in 3rd-4th round...Safeties too...doesn't look like any centers in this draft...Brailsford is extremely undersized

[@jmig7183]

No way go after these guys! It’s now all about the O line. I have seen enough of CW at this point to know this for sure. Give him a line that gives him a few more seconds and this guy will DESTROY defenses. A franchise QB demands investment in a franchise O line. In the modern NFL, a great offense can carry a less than great defense. This isn’t 1985 anymore. Draft, Free agency and Cap space should be weighted towards the offensive side of the ball.

[@williambuzan463]

Poles will sit tight before the trade deadline. He likes Crosby but won't give up his draft capital to acquire him. He told me that that would have been something Ryan Pace might have done and to calm the frick down. He told me that he is building this team through the draft and to sit back and watch how the Super Bowl window is opening this season. He told me that it will not only be wide open next year but that the Bears are going to be winning championships. He emphasized that he meant that in the plural sense. He knows who you guys are and appreciates your opinions. lol!! Bear Down!!

[@michaela.kelley7823]

Why cant you possibly get both?

[@brandond8197]

We need offensive line!

[@1SuperD1]

Trade 2 second round picks maybe? I agree that a first is needed for an o lineman. There’s a small chance that we draft 3 o lineman and the offensive line is solid after that. If it was anybody besides Garrett and Crosby I don’t even think a d line trade would be relevant.

[@kerryhowell167]

DISAGREE, If you have an opportunity to become dominant on 1 side of the ball, YOU DO IT! GARRET, BILLINGS, DEXTER & SWEAT w/our defensive backfield would be dominant. You can work on the offensive line in the draft and free agency.

[@samuelmartin117]

Talking bout keeping picks when they took an injured OL in 3rd and punter in 4th last year. Get me bpa

[@christopherromaniz1674]

What’s a big reason Goff is being amazing. That number 1 O-LINE with a top 5 running game

[@samuelmartin117]

Took that first round running back when everyone said it was dumb.

[@chazzhammer1]

TJ Watt may have something to say about who’s the best DE.

[@christopherromaniz1674]

I’ll tell ya this if after the next draft we focus on O-line and he still available after I’m trading the house ngl

[@KennethHults-xo3yr]

Crosby is from Michigan...doesn't want to be traded...if Raiders feel they must, then am sure they will trade him to whomever he wants to go to...( much like the Jalen Ramsey and Tyreek Hill situations )

[@jdvberg340]

Lions w/ 2 elite pass rushers doesn’t seem fair. Maybe Chicago plays chess w them and gets maxx not only to sure up d line and pash rush but to prevent avengers assembling in Detroit

[@jtwilliams8895]

Miles Garrett would be the man to go out and get, if possible. Sweatt is good, but he’s not unstoppable. But you probably can’t go out and blow up your whole plan when a pass rusher becomes available. Why would premium D-linemen be available and no solid offensive lineman become available?

[@VictoriaColmenares-rv5dq]

I think they like Braxton and have omegadje as a back up plan . I don’t see them using the 1 st on a lt. I’d imagine them using the #1 on a de sooooooo….

[@Magicmike12]

Geoffs 100 QBR is on the low side, it’s been 152 to 122 QBR, he is balling out & I’m a Bears fan….

[@jasonfrencl6809]

Thats it, I dont want to hear about the Bears getting any other players other than O lineman. Wtf are they doing? Our O line has been a problem for 2 decades.

[@darrylacarter]

This the best combo #Chicagomix

[@donovanlett6998]

We should do a big trade and get garret and Wyatt. If you do that, they will be hesitant to send Greg to the packers cause they would feel like they have enough picks. We can send Nate, kahlil Herbert, and dominque Robinson with a 1st and a 2nd. That would help both their trench depth and have a nice rb to pair with Chubb and Jerome ford. I think it’s a good trade

[@markuman1737]

Can any team afford 2 high price defensive ends with the salary cap?

[@anthonyslazas6413]

You can afford a lot of things when you're QB on his rookie deal

[@73ajd1]

Not this team.

[@RyanJohnson-zo5hs]

Try to get Crosby and see if they will take Herbert or Davis and a first, or if they will both guys and a third

[@BiggaChill]

Bears problem is identifying the talent they have…. Tevin needs to be either RG or LT…. I know y’all forgot, but his talent was and is at tackle…. He was decent at RG…. And pairing him with Wright is the right move…. But we got to see Murray at LG and he was a dog and a gem that needs polishing…. Aka reps…. We need to see what that LT rookie can do… but Braxton, Murray, Shelton, Tevin, Wright… will be a projected better situation for the rest of this season unless the rookie is better and he can play better than Braxton….

[@freeflyer6170]

I trust Poles to know and to properly handle the cost implications of trading for a max contract player. I don’t trust the media or internet mouthpieces to know how this works.

[@dapperdan343]

No Max Crosby, he’s a great player but the best move is to let Austin Booker develop and use the draft picks in a deep edge draft next year. Next year the Bears could have two legit young edges on their rookie deals, that gives them a lot of flexibility.

[@milehighboost5521]

Just sucks to know we can’t or won’t upgrade from Eberflus even if the Lions OC looks to become a HC. He has impressed with Goff as his QB.

[@officialSTR1FE]

We're keeping Fluse, because of what you said dude was to Goff, Fluse is to this entire team, not just the defense, the whole team. The culture they talked about, we see it in our players, most of them anyway. We Up Bear Don

[@jasontoy1261]

If you can get Garret for much less then Crosby then go get him and save some of them draft pics and still get a great player in Garet bear Down.

[@paulwatson3025]

Would love Crosby but I'm happy with Taylor and booker

[@thevoxdeus]

Is Crosby even available?

[@calabis]

Would give 1st and Panther 2nd for Crosby and throw in either Herbert or Booker. Also Lions Oline makes the move make more sense if u want to compete Can anyone name a good olineman available

[@clevo7820]

Y’all really think we’ll be able to draft and elite edge rusher to pair with Sweat? I don’t. One way or another we’re gonna have to pay high for that other edge rusher eventually…..

[@4realu]

We should trade for a best pass rusher to make the BEARS better.

[@gatorbite9816]

Would love to get Max or Myles of course but the trenches still have a long way to go for a championship team and trading away all our draft cap may be the wrong move for building a deep team that sustains in the future and keeps our QB alive. In Poles i trust .

[@stevenbarnes8238]

Im pretty sure mr davis said crosby NOT available so...

[@the50calbarrett]

So who the f are you gonna trade for on the offensive line that’s going to be a sure thing difference maker that’s on the trade block like Max cross of myles Garrett???

[@chrism6989]

Yes. You trade for Crosby, would take the pressure off of sweat with the double n triple teams he's been seeing this yr and both would eat and the interior would eat. And the secondary probably the best in the league, would eat ints left and right with the pressure the line would cause.hes on contract for next two yrs. You change the game and would definitely take the north and never give it back. Allen ain't gonna be here next yr. anyways can fix the line with signing Oline and draft majority of Oline legends are drafted in later rounds. I say if we can get em get him. We have better draft picks then the lions do. They were good last yr we werent. Those draft picks are used to find a Crosby type. We have a rookie contract for Caleb Williams. U won't be able to get that type of guy in four yrs

[@ricg2011]

100% yes

[@cwaters25]

Completely disagree with you guys. And having this mindset will never get us a championship. To pick the worse game the offensive line has had and say that’s the reason we shouldn’t make a trade for maxx or even Myles is crazy talk. The oline has actually improved and we still have a couple guys coming back who can help as well. The bears have a talented roster and can fast track to win now mode by accumulating more talent and playmakers. You add either of those two elite pass rushers to the defense who hasn’t allowed 21 points in forever we talking about an elite defense. Defense will always win championships especially when you got the right talent on offense to make the plays when they need to be made which I believe the bears have. We are in the toughest division in football a dominant defense gives you a better chance at coming out on top and it’s wide open right now the bears should absolutely be trying to improve their roster the best way possible and if that’s an elite pass rusher go get him it’s already hard to score on em make it damn near impossible

[@DVitamin3]

I'm supposed to believe in the guy who has the worst takes in chicago sports history shea norling? Same guy said the Ravens were historically great last yr. Same guy that said Colorado wouldn't win more tha 2 games this yr.?

[@Logie_Mills]

Name one radio/podcast personality that is right 100% of the time…

[@luisares5365]

I like miles Garrett. That's who I would get. That's just my opinion, but that guy is a Beast and he's huge. I like Max Crosby. He's got a lot of energy, and he's big butt miles garrett as a beast

[@thejiaozijournals4017]

OL arent going to be available at deadline

[@MrKurdkiller]

So why can’t we afford Max Crosby‘s contract don’t we have a quarterback with the rookie contract and a wide receiver with the rookie contract so it sounds like we can pay Max for the next four years and not worry about paying those two wouldn’t that make more sense

[@ChicagosM0stWanted]

All NFC teams are a threat with the Trade Deadline looming.... Imaging the teams that just knew they weren't losing to the Bears last season until we traded for Montez Sweat!! 🤣😂🤣😂

[@mauriciodelacruz1723]

How about calling the chargers for Mack? A late pick should get it done

[@leodaman2024]

I dunno. I say stick with what we have and build thru the DRAFT. Think long term success. It would be irresponsible, I agree yes, to give up your draft picks again. Like Emery, Pace, etc, did and look where it got us. Nowhere. Let's ride with who we have and coach 'em up! Go Bears!

[@ernestcrosby5382]

I'm surprised you'll didn't mention Lamar Jackson... He's doing as well as Josh and Jarrett

[@lamarkpowells]

Getting max or Myles for a 1 st and a 3rd and a 4th I’m in cause this defense goes from great to historic

[@MrKurdkiller]

I think the Bears should make a trade to the 49ers give them Alan and get a first rounder from them or second and third and then you can turn around and make a trade for Crosby

[@chrism6989]

Colts scored 21 on us. When we did it before. We had trubitsky that's why we got mack pace thought trubitsky was the guy. He wasn'.not. draft picks don't pan out. Teams been loading up on picks for yrs don't always pan out. Sometimes you gonna pull the triggeri don't aggree

[@seanharris3126]

Lol. We'll see. I will be checking back after we start playing the division

[@chazzhammer1]

Gotta make moves now while Caleb is on the Rookie deal

[@hippieblubiu9147]

This was in yesterday podcast

[@Ebonysails]

Only Pat has a lack of faith in Poles finding serviceable lineman. We have the 12th ranked line. How many moves to 2 places...6 places? The Bengals won the SB with a significantly worse performing Line. Poles has constructed a 12th ranked OLINE and a top 5 DLine in 3 years. Come on man.

[@officialSTR1FE]

Shae late to our party, go ahead grab a seat, pretty soon standing room only, line gonna be out the door, stretching across the country like Hands Across America. We Up Bear Don

[@RyanJohnson-zo5hs]

And see if we can get Teller for a fourth

[@christr1ut87]

The Bears could probably trade their 2 seconds for Crosby if the Raiders are even willing to move him.

[@Erik-nm5is]

We should have got jpp and Jms!

[@jasonfrencl6809]

Anything more than a second rnd is not worth it. Ate Montz Sweat and K. Allens $23 million 1 yr deal 🤔

[@soulbeatzmajor]

No team is trading good o-linemen and if they do your paying more because those guys are hard to find

[@aelkat4218]

You got to admire Crosbys determinations to stay and lose with Raiders for the rest of his career.

[@KevinSimons7]

Shea has that “I’m smarter than you” vibe, no matter what he’s talking about and it’s beyond off putting. More Courtney and Briggs (even Jurko), Pat. Please.

[@Logie_Mills]

I disagree… I think Shea deserves his own show. He kills it especially on Kap & Hood.

[@jayceejackson3584]

Nah I say do nothing. The Lions are going further than the Bears this year no matter what we do, so I say keep the draft capital and continue the build for the low. Defense isn’t our problem anyway.

[@lamonteshockley787]

You get Crosby if he is available he is a proven game changer. There is no one in the draft that guarantees you anything. The Bears objective is the Superbowl . There is nothing to wait for . Superstars don't come often. Are you guys crazy !!!!!. Poles is going to get Crosby. Hell yeah, if they get Crosby he is the difference maker to shut down any quarterback.

[@lamonteshockley787]

The 85 Bears defense destroyed everybody. Results Only Superbowl they ever won. Are you guys silly you have to worry about what the competition is doing because you have to play them .

[@Tr3yday04_Gaming]

They’re not trading for and OL

[@ChicagosM0stWanted]

I'd trade the whole 2025 Draft for Garrett & Crosby!! #whatdraft #bearsarehistoricallyknownfordefense #letsgetit

[@louiedephillips5156]

There first 3 picks and maybe all of them can be o line

[@milehighboost5521]

Do y’all think the Vikings keep Darnold for next season or they just rolling with JJ McCarthy?

[@Ihavetocorrectyou]

Keep Darnold until he doesn't produce.

[@jeffortman6395]

Miles Garet forget Crosby!

[@homercuts]

That was last year's move boys Montez sweat you go to the well one too many times she going to be dry and that Oline goin to suffer needs to keep Caleb upright with a line of elephants around him

[@FrankMarshall-d3i]

Wouldn't mind trying to trade with KC for OG Trey Smith! Last year of contract and KC can't afford him!!

[@richardfuentesfuentes8038]

We don't want the Lions to get Maxx 😬