When Dan said Zay and Bateman are better than Chase and Higgins, I lost my mind 😭😭😭 that’s an insane take!!
@frederickwilliams92048 күн бұрын
Yeah just because of the Mickey Mouse stat of “separation” that some nerd gave to him like wat
@dchenkin025 күн бұрын
Derrick Henry makes the Ravens wide receivers look elite. Bengals don't have a dominant running game.
@pickle.7868 күн бұрын
Micah got more podcast *episodes* than tackles this year
@alijordanx89548 күн бұрын
Football version of Draymond Green but..with no RINGS!! Not even close 😂
@goodnightmunchie8 күн бұрын
That African only cares about himself 🚬🤦
@Tray-s5h8 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@KingAmaniImani8 күн бұрын
They ask players questions during media time.
@macaronitoni5988 күн бұрын
He only has 1 podcast 😂
@uyiosaigiehon71748 күн бұрын
Rex Ryan almost never has bases for his arguments. Man just said ‘I love this guy’ as proof of why Josh Allen is MVP. It’s not stats, because it doesn’t work for Allen. It’s not wins, because that would be Goff or Mahomes. It’s not a combination of both, or that would be Darnold or Barkley. But it’s Josh, because, ‘I just love that guy’
@ShawnReed-ny1hd8 күн бұрын
They're giving a dude mvp that's 8-8😂😂😂 They're not bright people
@durrellbowden54958 күн бұрын
LITERALLY
@Rivs51178 күн бұрын
Josh Allen has the combination of all both. He’s top 3 in QB stats and team wins despite having his top two WRs from last season leaving the team. Imagine what Josh Allen would do if he had Chase and Higgins or Derrick Henry.
@Tadrian40848 күн бұрын
Exactly
@tmot67148 күн бұрын
5:37 40 mph winds 😂
@oaklandtraphouse8 күн бұрын
Dan just said jamar chase and tee Higgins are not better than zay flowers and Rashad Bateman lol
@mega1media1248 күн бұрын
no way he said that lol
@wook19908 күн бұрын
The Joe Burrow glazing is absurd from Dan Orlovsky. He really hates Lamar Jackson and it's sad to hear a bunch of garbage coming from a guy who wasn't aware enough to know where out of bounds was in his own end zone.
@kurooben16398 күн бұрын
he didn't say that. he said burrow's weapons don't get open like baltimore's
@ShawnReed-ny1hd8 күн бұрын
@kurooben1639 that's cap...chase is literally about to triple crown
@rodneythomas8518 күн бұрын
@@kurooben1639who are the weapons lol
@jaylajones62928 күн бұрын
Soooooo, Dan put that graphic up there and completely ignored the tight window completion percentage cause Lamar’s was better than Burrow and tied with Allen
@Fidelis17768 күн бұрын
The amount of likes your comment has is proof of why he did it. People are looking at the numbers but not actually doing the math.
@SecretSocietyTV8 күн бұрын
Exactly lol was thinking the same
@jehushaphat8 күн бұрын
The real reason for why he did it is because he doesn't like LaMar. All his arguments, no matter what they are, always exclude LaMar.
@kennethghee74368 күн бұрын
That was the dumbest graphic ever.. 1 it means your receivers are better for making contested catches.. 2 it means you’re making the wrong reads or forcing the football.. since when did QBs get penalized for throwing to the open man..😂🤣🤣
@williamalexander94858 күн бұрын
@@kennethghee7436Elite quarterbacks consider tight windows open. They have no trouble making those throws, they have a different definition of open than your favorite quarterback😆😆😆😆
@to43168 күн бұрын
"Lamar only targets open receivers so clearly he isn't the MVP" -dude who ran out the back of the end zone.
@CSmoothh8 күн бұрын
If Dan can't give his opinion, then neither can Geeeny because he never played. Dan is an analyst, his career irrelevant to giving his opinion on the game
@Tadrian40848 күн бұрын
Right I don’t know what they saying
@jehushaphat8 күн бұрын
@@CSmoothh Dan is no analysts, He's a fanboy and a hater all in one. Every single argument that comes out of his mouth goes to discredit LaMar.
@salahzulu70778 күн бұрын
@@jehushaphatman I respect the ravens organization but man yall got the dumbest and fickle fans
@CSmoothh8 күн бұрын
@jehushaphat You say he always discredits Lamar, yet he voted for him MVP last season. How did you miss that part?
@jonathanbarnes1118 күн бұрын
Fyi, your supposed to throw to the open guys
@iam_nell8 күн бұрын
Open WRs are a bad thing now
@MrTipsy58 күн бұрын
WR separation are *all* receivers at the time of throw (not just the targeted). Mostly because of how good Henry has been most of this season, teams are trying to stop the run which leads to heavy boxes which makes for less coverage and more open receivers
@truthbearer78918 күн бұрын
So because of Lamar’s gravity we are now pretending his WRs are better than JaMarr Chase and Tee Higgins 😂
@godisgood38058 күн бұрын
Well Said.
@captbkj8 күн бұрын
Josh Allen threw 18 picks in 2023. 18 is nasty work
@cooliod458 күн бұрын
He also had like 50 TDs. Give me someone who puts up that many TDs compared to one who had 24TDs
@SDRHaki8 күн бұрын
Turnovers matter thats why bills loss some games the Ravens didn't t lose games because of Lamar TOs
@youngOmackin8 күн бұрын
@@cooliod45Those weren’t all passing tho. I believe he had 28 passing with 18 Interceptions it’s crazy how recently it’s a total TD thing
@Jkiddd101018 күн бұрын
Don’t say nothing they leave out that fact to down Lamar, Josh Allen Been a walking turnover before this year
@fullhundred8 күн бұрын
WATTT Joe burrow plays with 2 number 1 receiver is dis dude a dunce or his he stupid !
@Galero158 күн бұрын
Lamar's targets get open because Lamar extends plays with his legs and demands too much respect from the defense to contain him. Why is he being punished now he FINALLY has weapons? The shifting goal posts are gross
@Gmossy118 күн бұрын
Because he won mvp last year with worst stats I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve it but last year someone else should have won. I think he had a chance to win back to back
@NicholasDunn-q9i8 күн бұрын
Bills with Lamar, THIS YEAR, are either the same or a game or two worse. Josh on the Ravens, THIS YEAR, gets at least one more win if not 2.
@jilldailey12068 күн бұрын
@@NicholasDunn-q9i 35-10 against the Ravens remember?
@Galero158 күн бұрын
@@NicholasDunn-q9i That's hilarious, Lamar is a 2x MVP without weapons. Allen didn't win anything with Diggs and he's got weapons now. Lamar has is and always has been the superior QB and it's NEVER BEEN CLOSE
@NicholasDunn-q9i8 күн бұрын
@jilldailey1206 I was born and raised in KC. Wrong fn dude to play the head to head stat with if you're gonna argue for Lamar dummy. Not like it's something I wanna admit for Allen seeing as I loved Vick then Cam growing up. Josh would have beat the Bills at the time too if you switched the QBs as I've already mentioned. To the dummy who replied talking about WEAPONS right after you, you're clueless as Josh is the weapon for the Bills right now. The fact that the Ravens are like 8-0 or 5-0 when Derrick Henry gets 20 or more carries proves that utilizing him is just as important an asset to their success and stresses the field in ways that would make it easier for a scrambling QB. The Bills don't have another guy for defenses to really have to stress about and he still killing and neck and neck with Lamar which is why I give it to him.
@yasissa28068 күн бұрын
Did Dan just say that Barkley and burrow are having better statistical seasons than Lamar. Lamar literally has a chance to have the greatest individual statistical seasons in nfl history. This literally shows me that people don’t understand how great Lamar’s been.
@zeusonolympus1238 күн бұрын
No he doesnt. Peyton Manning had a passer rating of 115.1 with 5,477 yards, 55 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 16 games in 2013. He threw the ball almost 200 more times than Lamar. Get over yourself.
@yasissa28068 күн бұрын
@ so your telling me if Lamar throw for 4000, has 1000 yards rushing, 45+ touchdowns with 4 interceptions and the greatest passer rating of all time there is a greater individual season than that. Wow I forgot how much Peyton manning contributes to the run game. You probably don’t even realize the only reason why Henry has 1700 rushing yards is because of Lamar Jackson.
@jehushaphat8 күн бұрын
Dan's every single comment is meant to discredit LaMar.
@tankdavislefthand8 күн бұрын
Dans arguments make 0 sense it’s truly ashamed he has a vote. Lamar’s receivers are top 5 in drop percentage this year that has to matter when talking about supporting cast. Also the rushing threat of Lamar helps them get open on play action that has to matter when talking about value. When talking about stats you have to take into account Burrow has about 150 more passing attempts so obviously he’d have better volume stats but efficiency wise Lamar is having a top 5 season of all time with less then Burrow offensively. Lastly when talking about winning you have to factor in the fact Lamar is 7-3 against winning teams while Allen is 2-3 and also plays in a much worse division. Also he outplayed Burrow and Allen head to head. The MVP shouldn’t even be a debate it’s clear as day voter fatigue is a strange thing man.
@Bubpup7 күн бұрын
He would absolutely be MVP… if he didn’t win like he did last year if u want, stats then purdy or dak would have destroyed him.
@ros73dros8 күн бұрын
Off field community is not a factor in the MVP
@iam_nell8 күн бұрын
That’s what the Walter Payton award is for
@ros73dros8 күн бұрын
@iam_nell yep
@mega1media1248 күн бұрын
why dont we knock burrow for having chase and higgins how we knock lamar for having henry?
@SunniMerlot5 күн бұрын
Same reason they don’t knock Josh for having a rb who’s top 5 in rushing and #1 in touchdowns
@JordanT3025Күн бұрын
WRs are QB dependent and RBs are not.
@blick55118 күн бұрын
Burrow isn't doing anything that Drew Brees didn't already do. And Burrow couldn't hit 5k yards in 16 games like other guys have done. This MVP discussion this year has been absurd
@jasonmahr53978 күн бұрын
@@blick5511 josh Allen is the MVP, end of discussion
@jasonmaloney78308 күн бұрын
@@jasonmahr5397I could definitely argue for Burrow too. Guys playing stupidly good rn
@jasonmahr53978 күн бұрын
@@jasonmaloney7830 Burrow is 8-8, he has no argument for MVP whatsoever. 8-8 disqualifies him
@wook19908 күн бұрын
Why are people like you so obsessed about what someone hasn't done in 16 games? Literally one game was added to the season by the NFL and you're out here discrediting the players based on what's being accomplished. This is one of the dumbest takes I've seen in the year of 2024. And regardless of what you've seen Drew Brees do, Joe Burrow is out there lighting it up while getting hit and sacked a ton and playing with a defense and special teams that has struggled for the most part all season long along with dealing with a head coach like Zac Taylor who makes very poor and questionable decisions at times. I hope that somehow Saquon Barkley wins MVP because I'm an Eagles fan, but the MVP talk has been a great discussion this year. Lamar Jackson is the favorite to win it. Josh Allen is right there even with lesser numbers than Burrow. Barkley's 2000-yard season along with being 101 rushing yards away from setting the new single-season rushing yards record in his very first season as an Eagle is outstanding. There are plenty of worthy candidates of MVP. But this take of yours ain't it. Y'all need to stop crying over milk that was never spilled.
@wook19908 күн бұрын
@@jasonmahr5397And no, Josh Allen is not the MVP. Lamar Jackson is the MVP.
@ayomichael60648 күн бұрын
When its lamar jackson you want to use the textbook definition of mvp lol
@SunniMerlot5 күн бұрын
I love how they don’t mention James Cook being the leading td scorer. They mention Derek Henry though
@Galero158 күн бұрын
Lamar should have two unanimous MVPs and he should get his third this season. He's beating winning teams and playoff teams. Burrow is 1-8 against winning/playoff teams. Allen is 3-3 against winning teams, 2-3 against playoff teams. Lamar is 7-3 against winning teams, and if the Bengals make the playoffs, he'll be 9-3 against playoff teams
@r.b07058 күн бұрын
Why should he get a unanimous MVP for a total of 29 touchdowns last year? You ravens fans are delusional . Hes beaten wildcard playoff teams like chargers , broncos , commanders(whose biggest win is the injured eagles) , houston with literally their top receivers out . He has beaten one elite team in the bills and lost to chiefs and eagles.
@rodneythomas8518 күн бұрын
@@r.b0705playoff teams are playoff teams
@laugh_n_share_life8 күн бұрын
Goff is the real MVP
@keko71988 күн бұрын
Lamar last season was the worst MVP we’ve seen in years
@jeffjustlookin8 күн бұрын
And all these quarterbacks have plenty more losses than the quarterback with only one loss. You are ultra valuable when your team has one loss and you lead them to multiple one score wins. Give me the winner, the champ.
@TomJohnson-wg3po8 күн бұрын
Man, Burrow got the best offensive weapon in the league. But Y’all using every excuse to not give it to Lamar 😭
@zeusonolympus1238 күн бұрын
Burrow has one of the worst OLs and no running game....He has 2 awesome WRs. Thats it.
@FlowSwitchMusic8 күн бұрын
Is it possible that average separation stat is a result of Lamar extending plays and defenses breaking down?
@rajkaranvirk75258 күн бұрын
Josh extends plays all the time and his receivers still don’t get open.
@FlowSwitchMusic8 күн бұрын
@@rajkaranvirk7525 maybe he just doesn't do it as well as Lamar? Look at Lamars TD to likely on Christmas he had to extend the play for 8 seconds before someone got open and Lamar had to tell him where to go.
@rajkaranvirk75258 күн бұрын
@@FlowSwitchMusic Look at Josh’s TD yesterday to Keon. Doesn’t do it as well is such a casual take. He does it phenomenally and has a good O-Line and his receivers don’t get open. It’s almost like Lamar’s receivers are better. Weird how you’re going through all these mental gymnastics to credit Lamar for his receivers getting separation
@joshuaokparaocha3318 күн бұрын
We can go through all 40 of Lamar’s TD passes and 75% of them is Lamar doing something absurd to keep the play alive or dropping a dime. It’s all narrative.
@FlowSwitchMusic8 күн бұрын
@@rajkaranvirk7525 He didn't extend the play as long. also Keon wasn't even open. Josh through a rainbow across his body into a group of defenders. guy in front miss times the jump and Keon makes a great play high pointing it. Romo even said after the play that wasn't a good decision. He got lucky on that specific play. The Lamar play he through it in a spot where only his guy could get it, and it took 8 seconds of extending the play to get there.
@Bighoodiekid8 күн бұрын
okay but why is nobody bringing up the fact that allen has the luxury of playing two teams with double digit losses twice a year ? his division is terrible
@captbkj8 күн бұрын
They are looking for any reason not to give Lamar a 3rd MVP
@Adam-xs4eo7 күн бұрын
Because he didn't deserve it last year.
@kozmiic5 күн бұрын
And Josh did ? 🤡 @@Adam-xs4eo
@Jkiddd101018 күн бұрын
At this point Lamar Jackson just need to win SuperBowl MVP yall can have that regular season MVP, because saying Lamar don’t deserve it because his receivers are open is crazy
@fabioexplores8 күн бұрын
For real, a superbowl would shut up everyone
@StepBlvck8 күн бұрын
Lamar Jackson is the mvp. If they can justify burrow, then that makes Lamar’s case even better.
@jasonmahr53978 күн бұрын
Allen has the MVP already locked up. He’s winning it, period!
@StepBlvck8 күн бұрын
@ glad you’re not a voter bud 😆
@goodnightmunchie8 күн бұрын
The African quitter will never win a Superbowl 🚬🧐
@jakestv3228 күн бұрын
Josh Allen is MVP, and if your argument is that Lamar's numbers are better, then Josh should have won last year when his numbers were better, but Lamar won because they were the 1 seed, now Josh has a higher seed and you still wanna give Lamar the MVP, then that's messed up
@StepBlvck8 күн бұрын
@ 1/10 rage bait, try harder
@Whiskey_spectre5 күн бұрын
Imagine this, an MVP vote, cast by people who have NEVER been an MVP.
@Justinmorban7 күн бұрын
His graphic showed Lamar throws about 31-33 percent on tight window, compared to the others who had many more attempts, but only Allen is maybe a few percentage points higher
@coreyglaze64798 күн бұрын
Dan is out of his mind with comparing Burrows receivers to anyone else’s. And he’s using separation as the determining factor. That’s insane.
@Idiombomb8 күн бұрын
This dude Dan just made the argument for Burrow to be OPY. He’s dragging them with the best pass catchers in the league to a mid record.
@Ivmeister_8 күн бұрын
Sam Darnold has a beautiful story. Good for him. So inspirational
@jehushaphat8 күн бұрын
I would completely respect DO if he just comes out and say LaMar shouldn't get 3 MVPs because he hasn't played in the championship yet. But to come out with these completely bs reasons and stats is totally nonsensical and cowardly.
@Stain-u9t8 күн бұрын
Rex making a case for Allen “ not the other guy who always winning MVP’s because of stats”
@bernadindah-missi48068 күн бұрын
The voter fatigue should be the only reason why you don’t vote Lamar Jackson for the MVP. He beat Borrow twice, beat Allen and completely sacrificed the Texans (which Bills are unable to beat.) Not only that, but he also has the best stats. And doesn’t have the luxury to play the Jets, the Patriots and the Dolphins twice a year.
@biggiegreens244 күн бұрын
The rebuild narrative on national television for allen is so absurd. You can literally look up ESPN preseason betting odds for division leaders and super bowl contenders. Buffalo is at the top, right there with the chiefs and ravens. If not that, you can look at the power rankings where they were ranked top 10 and top of their division
@hectorayala33778 күн бұрын
Acting like chase and Higgins are average is wild lmao
@Skeeks278 күн бұрын
The Giants are ok with "Consistency"??? Consistently losing?!?! What positive consistency has been with that franchise over the last 5-7 years????
@ShawnReed-ny1hd8 күн бұрын
Find me a black qb that espn would give mvp with a mid record 😂😂
@Fhill48018 күн бұрын
The mental gymnastics to convince ppl that Lamar ain’t MVP is wild
@InvestBetter.8 күн бұрын
There are at least 4 legit MVPs in this league this year Josh, Lamar, Sam Darnold and Saquan If any of them get the award, you can't complain I don't put Burrow in because of the record, and he has the best WR inn the game
@MikkiChavez8 күн бұрын
Anybody using that rebuild foolishness is idiocy
@TomJohnson-wg3po8 күн бұрын
Yall used Derrick Henry to discredit Lamar but Burrow has Chase & Higgins.. Allen SOS is weak..
@zod5488 күн бұрын
Lamar is the best at targeting beyond the first read, he purposefully targets open guys
@Stain-u9t8 күн бұрын
Dan saying 😂that Burrow weapons are worse than LJ is crazy. Defences have to account for LJ legs
@PriestdaKing8 күн бұрын
Jj Wyatt hands down the best when it come to the community
@sodblitz34458 күн бұрын
Lamar won last year because he had 13 wins, 10 against opponents with a winning record (NFL record) This year Josh Allen has 13 wins, 10 against teams with a losing record.... Allen lost to Jackson by more points (25) than the total points the Ravens lost by in 5 games (22)
@KingAmaniImani8 күн бұрын
They pushing for Josh Allen so Lamar doesn't get his third. Mahomes not being mentioned is blasphemous and a regular season win by the bills over the Chiefs doesn't push Josh over Patrick.
@bauer_lives51968 күн бұрын
This the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen
@Zarkmoneybags8 күн бұрын
Bills 2-3 vs winning teams Ravens- 7-3 vs winning teams
@aroperdope8 күн бұрын
@@bauer_lives5196You are right. Your comment is dumb
@bauer_lives51968 күн бұрын
@@Zarkmoneybags ravens 0-2 vs the worst teams in the league 😂
@Zarkmoneybags8 күн бұрын
@@bauer_lives5196 Lamar lives rent free in your head
@DeadEyeDay8 күн бұрын
I love the arguments people have here "Josh Allen should be MVP he is doing more with less" ok "Joe Burrow should be MVP he is doing insane (with weapons like Chase and Higgins)" "Lamar isnt the MVP he has a running back helping him out (mind you at the start of the season people were saying he was old washed and on a decline)" people move the goal post for every single argument bring up what ever they can think of to make their argument sound better at the time but its always contradicting what they said about someone else
@sevnsinnz64688 күн бұрын
Now we saying Burrow has LESSER weapons than Lamar!? Man the way they always find a way to diminish Lamar's greatness is unreal. Year after year they come up with excuses as to why he really isn't that great, yet constantly make excuses for them other dudes!
@JordanT3025Күн бұрын
Lamar has Andrew’s, Likely, Henry’s and flowers all solid players
@cthegoal058 күн бұрын
So Dan, you’re saying Lamar isn’t the mvp because his receivers get open better than Allen’s and Burrow’s??? 🤣
@Highspeed308 күн бұрын
Dan O said if we're only going with Stats the MVP would be Joe Burrow??? Or Barkley??? Huh that's not even making sense cause Lamar production stat wise is better than both Burrow & Barkley.
@JordanT3025Күн бұрын
Burrow has more yards, TDs, and completion percentage. Only thing Lamar has is QBR and less turnovers.
@Highspeed30Күн бұрын
@@JordanT3025 What about those 900 yds plus rushing??? 4 TDs??
@JordanT3025Күн бұрын
@@Highspeed30 Burrow 5119 total yards, 46 total TDs. Lamar - 5,019 total yards, 46 total TDs. Corrected they have the same amount of TDs. They virtually have similar yardage but Burrow has 100 more yards.
@Highspeed30Күн бұрын
@JordanT3025 Either way my point was that Dan O was acting like Lamar ain't have no stats to compare to Joe.... It was a shame they gave it to Josh Allen IMO considering every other QB that posted a 120 or better won MVP and when you add the 900 rush yards I don't see how they gave it to Allen based off 2 more wins in a clearly weaker division
@nungfoh8 күн бұрын
If lamar had chase and tee what would he be
@jog88608 күн бұрын
Just be honest. Lamar has 2 mvps. That’s the only reason you all don’t want him to win the 3rd even tho he’s been better than Josh this season. He just has.
@clane22428 күн бұрын
Yes, a 3-peat is inevitable. Accept it, guys. I know it ruins all your talking points, but it will happen.
@annie88578 күн бұрын
Dan they are wide receivers. They are suppose to get open. Just say y'all don't want him to win it. It's ok lol, I'm quite sure Lamar wants that Super Bowl
@Y.d.o.b.o.n8 күн бұрын
Would be hilarious if the vikings start a rookie over a guy who won 14 games.
@jehushaphat8 күн бұрын
The fact alone that we're discussing TWO potential MVPs from the same division excludes Allen from consideration since he's in one of the weakest and least competitive divisions in the league.
@nicholasticali61238 күн бұрын
Don't worry, they will move the goal post to fit the Lamar narrative for him to win again.
@jawwaadsabree55738 күн бұрын
Where are the real analysts? 🤦🏾♂
@mccoyology8 күн бұрын
Where is RC these takes are. Wild
@acexszg8 күн бұрын
This season feels funny. Like 3/4 good teams and the rest just don’t even come close to competing lowkey
@zod5488 күн бұрын
Doesn’t have to put up numbers to win, is that mvp?
@Kay_Wright7 күн бұрын
Please 🙏 don't let Rex have an mvp vote 😭
@godexhibits8 күн бұрын
you know WHY they get open more????? ITS CUZ THEYRE ALL LOOKING AT LAMAR AND HENRY LMAOOO STOP IT DAN!!!
@joshuahodge88048 күн бұрын
Can they stop with Allen for MVP, he’s not having a better season than Lamar. He’s not having a better season than Saquan, he’s not even playing better than Burrow or Baker. Just stop with this nonsense!
@devongoodman37658 күн бұрын
Here goes the narrative.
@jamellhunter50868 күн бұрын
Funny when Josh has bad games against subpar teams it’s he didn’t have to. But when Burrow had a bad game against those same Patriots it was oh it hurt his case
@jilldailey12068 күн бұрын
8-8
@JordanT3025Күн бұрын
Burrow also had great performances against all playoff teams, Lamar also lost to raiders and browns but has played well against good teams
@rodneythomas8518 күн бұрын
Last year Lamar team was number 1 and anyone with stats struggled to get in the playoffs Lamar stats are career numbers 4k pass and almost 1k rushing
@charlesjohnson5368 күн бұрын
THE 'EXPERTS' SAID LAMAR JACKSON#8 .. WHO HAS THE 2ND BEST PASSER RATING IN LEAGUE HISTORY(121.6) COULDN'T BE MVP BECAUSE HE HAS 5 LOSSES .. BUT THE 8 LOSS BENGALS .. WHO ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM .. HAVE A MVP CANDIDATE?? ..
@dhehighlights32098 күн бұрын
And Allen threw 18 picks
@HopefulNihilist8 күн бұрын
So what?? You do realize Allen and Lamar TD to Turnover ratio was very similar, right? Allen had 44 Total TD's to 20 Turnovers, Lamar had 29 Total TD's to 13 Turnovers.
@biggiegreens244 күн бұрын
@@HopefulNihilistSo you're telling me out of all the mvp candidates last year, you would have rather Josh allen won? And this year since he didn't win over the 4 other deserving candidates, he should win as compensation?
@HopefulNihilist4 күн бұрын
@@biggiegreens24 "Compensation" implies Allen doesn't deserve the award and is just being given the award, which is not the case at all. He has simular stats to Lamar, but with less help and more wins.
@Horndogthehorneddog8 күн бұрын
These shows really poison the conversations around sport and football specifically, “Inevitable” is such a goofy word to use.
@jwilliamson-xo8nd8 күн бұрын
Omg Josh did not lose his best weapons… They gave them away. 🙄
@goodnightmunchie8 күн бұрын
Those African fellas were selfish 🚬😐
@jwilliamson-xo8nd8 күн бұрын
@@goodnightmunchieAnd they didn’t want them anymore so they swapped them out with some more African fellas. 😂
@K9marcel8 күн бұрын
I wanna see a 3 peat f an mvp
@goodnightmunchie8 күн бұрын
The African community doesn't even care about the Superbowl because they know African QBs fold like lawn chairs in the playoffs 🚬🤨
@russellstevens99278 күн бұрын
@@goodnightmunchie Huh? Patrick Mahomes has 2 rings! How tf is he folding like a lawn chair? Tf are you babbling about?
@og_mante51388 күн бұрын
@@russellstevens9927 He’s a bot
@scrilla508 күн бұрын
@@russellstevens9927Mahomes has 3 rings
@JordanT3025Күн бұрын
Mahomes is mixed 😂
@KingAmaniImani8 күн бұрын
Any MVP race that doesn't include Patrick Mahomes isn't a real debate.
@wook19908 күн бұрын
Because he doesn't deserve MVP this year.
@blick55118 күн бұрын
@@wook1990he deserves to be higher in the discussion. People are tired of the Chiefs, I get it
@wook19908 күн бұрын
@@blick5511 No he doesn't. He literally doesn't deserve to be higher in the discussion this year. His defense has bailed out their offense more than half the games this year. Their offense has just started to catch fire over the last few games. He may be on the team who is the defending 2-time Super Bowl Champions and has the best record in the NFL, but he doesn't deserve the MVP nor does he deserve to be higher in the conversation.
@blick55118 күн бұрын
@@wook1990"defense has bailed out the offense more than half the games" is complete bs. Just 4 of the Chiefs wins they've scored under 20. That's the defense carrying. 9 wins have come with the Chiefs scoring 26-30.....that's not the defense bailing them out
@wook19908 күн бұрын
@@blick5511 You literally just made my point, genius. You're a very poor reader of the room. The defense has bailed out the offense the entire season. You act like the Chiefs are out here blowing people out 25+ points a game while scoring 30-40 points a game. That's not their identity anymore. They went from an offensive juggernaut to a ground and pound team. Nothing wrong with that but stop acting like the Chiefs have been waxing teams when they haven't. Their defense is the reason for their record and success.
@zeusonolympus1238 күн бұрын
Saquon Barkley will be MVP when he breaks the all time rushing record in less carries next week.
@poeticlamar43798 күн бұрын
This graphic is skewed because does this statistical case take into account the amount of time the play goes off script or Lamar buys more time?
@Djturnt8 күн бұрын
Goff is the mvp dude has been 1st and 2nd in every stat but tds and he’s 4th there on the second best team in the league with a full season injured defense, it’s crazy Allen doesn’t have the stats and he’s not doing anything throwing under 200 like 5 games but they use Goff weapons around him as a discredit to Goff. If Allen is the mvp don’t he need to be the most important dude on his team seem like his running game is what matters
@altonroyster91888 күн бұрын
They come up with a different stat every week Who has the most SLIDING to the LEFT and RIGHT Yards WHEN PASSING DAN??.
@ThePhilG038 күн бұрын
Guess why Lamar’s receivers are the most open? Because he buys the most time in the pocket
@FlowSwitchMusic8 күн бұрын
sounds like hes adding value there
@rajkaranvirk75258 күн бұрын
Josh scrambles and has the great o-line and his receivers still don’t get open.
@tiyanu8 күн бұрын
Actually no it’s because their play action is so lethal that defenses are trained to sell out on the run. Why is it so lethal? Because of Derrick Henry. Not lamar
@jasonmaloney78308 күн бұрын
Bruh, he has Derrick Henry in the backfield with him😭 his team is playing worse this year than last year, with adding a top 3 running back.
@deezzzzznuts27448 күн бұрын
@@tiyanulol then why every team try to take the ball out of Lamar hand instead of Henry, lol Huston literally said it, they would rather get beat by Henry then Lamar cause there’s no way for them to win if Lamar keep the ball lol yall definitely don’t watch games but I hope Joe burrow does win it if bengals beat the Steelers, he dragging a sorry excuse of a franchise
@chevonguthrie40984 күн бұрын
Throwing to open receivers sound like good decision making but also teams can never sell out for the pass with Lamar, he’s JUST as dangerous keeping it as he is throwing
@jumpyjeffrey2 күн бұрын
If you're not winning, numbers don't matter. Nobody cares about garbage-time. Jackson running ability allows him to not force throws. That's the reason for having more separation per throw.
@ndnbruthu5 күн бұрын
Honestly, wins matter even if wins aren't a QB stat. Since Saquon is getting so much MVP attention (deservedly), I think it's fair to assume it's because the Eagles are winning.
@Killa_Kamz8 күн бұрын
Don't matter. At some point nunbers have to matter morea. Josh Allen's numbers aren't close enough to Lamar's for lack of weapons/defense to matter. Lamar is a 4k yards, 39 tds, 4ints, 122 qbr. Josh is at 3.7k yards, 28 tds, 6ints, 101 qbr. Lack of weapons and team defense can't surmount more than 10 less tds, and 2 more ints.
@brettriverboat99208 күн бұрын
There should be 3 MPVs per-season - QB, Offensive Player & Defensive Player
@AngelM812125 күн бұрын
Does it not get cold in the afc north??
@HonWanjala8 күн бұрын
Thats not his Job,i wanna see him get after the opponent's QB angrily!
@goodnightmunchie8 күн бұрын
That African fella only cares about himself 🚬😮
@chrisstation56618 күн бұрын
He should get MVP consideratio, but my top 3: Josh, Lamar, Saquon
@godisgood38058 күн бұрын
Contributor or Benefactor?! As a CB which duo would you like to cover Zay Flowers and Rashod Bateman OR Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins? Dan O thinks Zay Flowers and Rashod Bateman is better.
@JordanT3025Күн бұрын
He’s saying that with the addition of the defense being worried about Henry
@godisgood3805Күн бұрын
@@JordanT3025 I assure you that any team in the NFL will trade their entire offense plus their relatives for those two. Comparing Higgins and Chase to those 3 is a joke. Higgins will command at least 30 million per year in the free agent. Henry was signed for a 2 year contract for 16 million, also Bateman will make less than 20 for 2 years.
@og_mante51388 күн бұрын
I’ve heard more opinions than I’ve seen sacks from Micah this season
@TheAeroRising8 күн бұрын
“He doesn’t have to”. Yes, that is the point Rex. His team is better so he doesn’t have to. Burrow has to!!! Maybe if you want the MVP then “have to” is what you should realize matters. If Burrow gets in he should get it. Y’all had them dead and gone. Oh and do divisions not matter? Allen, 6 games against Pats, Jets and Dolphins 😂. For Rex to say “not even close”…come on now.
@Veracity77788 күн бұрын
Now that Lamar’s receivers are finally getting separation it’s an issue? 😂 I remember the Willie Snead days still making plays happen
@skylerroberts45217 күн бұрын
Mvp voting if today. I would vote Lamar 1st closely followed by Joe burrow. 3rd baker mayfield. 4th josh allen. 5th jared goff
@williamalexander94858 күн бұрын
Playing in the AFC EAST should disqualify any quarterback from being MVP, playing the Dolphins, Patriots and Jets are 6 for sure wins with minimal effort.
@xxxxbigrich57523 күн бұрын
I’m so happy for Sam Darnold he was with my team Jets and if they had better coaching would have been better. Geno Smith another Jet QB. Hire Mike V.
@313drepeso3138 күн бұрын
By the numbers, Lamar is having a better year than Allen stat wise. Also, dan is capping about last year stats.
@ndnbruthu5 күн бұрын
No context on those separation stats, Dan. Percentage wise, that stat favors Lamar a lot despite you talking about Burrow and Allen. That's purely a lot more attempts into close windows. Why criticize Lamar because he doesn't force as many contested throws? Why ignore his athletic ability and rushing achievements in his season and career success? Of course he's going to naturally pass a lot fewer than the other guys. And don't talk about Henry being there because we know the Bills and the Bengals have good offensive teams. At this point, slighting Lamar in favor of Burrow or Allen is just hating. Also, Allen deserves way more MVP praise than Burrow.
@jasonmahr53978 күн бұрын
Burrow is 8-8. He has no MVP case. NONE. 8-8 automatically disqualifies him. Next!
@Mastirpeace8 күн бұрын
That’s not his fault. His defense is atrocious. He has to score 30 plus points per game and has most of the time. Argue with a wall
@jasonmahr53978 күн бұрын
@@Mastirpeace Learn how the MVP award works.
@JordanT3025Күн бұрын
@@jasonmahr5397 MVP award has been bent in different facets. The rules change every year. But burrows stats are hard to argue but his team record is why he’s 3rd in the standing .
@jwill2948 күн бұрын
The bengals as an organization don’t know how to be successful. They got lucky when Burrow and Chase came in, but now that they cost the team money they can’t build around them.
@romanreigns59268 күн бұрын
Josh for mvp, 2nd burrow. They are clutch, spectacular,make memorable plays. Lamar is boring
@Jack-ot1zq8 күн бұрын
Burrow is the only qb who HAS to score 30+ a game bc his defense is inept. MVP period if they make playoffs
@theuneducatedvoiceofreason22187 күн бұрын
What do we really expect, the Lamar Jackson hate has been the same from Day one. They don't find his playstyle appealing. They didn't want him to play QB to begin and now they are Tired of his success which is changing the position they love so much.
@williamalexander94858 күн бұрын
Lamar does more to get his guys uncovered, it’s the reason he runs to throw Dan. Joe has the best 2 receivers in the NFL, Josh runs to pick up yardage, you’re making a case for Lamar😂😂