Building Stairs...Again Ep.89

[@2008tfe]

I am glad you shared you story. Every mistake is a lesson. Every mistake is a story you can tell around a campfire with a beer in your hand. That's what makes building something on your own well worth it.

[@rdc008]

Nice to see a guy go back on his work and fix it right ! 🔨👍📐

[@syd411]

Hammering (nailing?) the deck screws to get them started exactly where you want them...brilliant.

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

The lay out that Scott does is awesome, all the screws are lined up and straight. Jim

[@jasonflyte3175]

I've been framing in PA for about 10 years now and I love your channel. This might be my favorite episode because we all make mistakes and personally I can take mistakes pretty hard sometimes. But seeing you deal with it too makes me know that it's OK, it happens, and you just need to learn from it and keep on pushing forward! I am cutting stringers tomorrow, so I looked up this video to get my head in the game! Thanks for doing what you do!

[@efkdmk]

Author Louise Penny tells us that, "“The four sayings that lead to wisdom: are saying: I was wrong, I’m sorry, I don’t know, I need help.” Most of us forget the I need help part.

[@rydubb5190]

Back in high school carpentry class we spent 2 weeks learning how to build stairs properly. Mr. Pulford knew it was an important skill to have and I'm very grateful he taught me well. Those hardwood stairs will be a STEP UP!

[@75startover]

I could watch you all day. A very practical craftsman. Thanks for the videos.

[@allthingsawesome2]

Takes a real man to make an entire video Dedicated to his mistake and then fixing it. Much respect

[@motor2of7]

My wife bought me an original Burke Bar for Christmas last year because she saw one of your videos. Great tool.

[@SoEz2Hack]

Congratulations Scott. It takes strength to be so nakedly honest.

[@joeybox0rox649]

It takes money to build incorrectly built stairs, it takes more money to tear it out and it takes the most money to rebuild. So who pays for this screw up??

[@ugjhgjf]

@@joeybox0rox649 It is a spec house. The cost will eat into his profit margin.

[@ugjhgjf]

When the video suddenly went private I thought he'd lost his nerve, good to see it back again.

[@joeybox0rox649]

@@ugjhgjf exactly.

[@rubenlaine1]

i had been waiting for this video for a minute... so satisfying to see the old stairs get chainsawed down

[@JackJohnson-mc7ki]

I like how you nailed the 2 x 4 spacers to the walls before rather than to the stringers first. Way stronger and less squeaky. Most people don't do this anymore..they just toe nail the spacers after the stringers are in place. Well done

[@51-FS]

I do the same thing and i gule it aswell

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

We just nail it right to the stringer usually.

[@JackJohnson-mc7ki]

@@xcalibertrekker6693 Exactly. That way it can create more squeaks because you had to toe nail through your stairwell wall studs. Quicker, but less strong and more likely to squeak

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

@@JackJohnson-mc7ki No idiot we nail it right to the stringer before we put it up. No toe nailing.

[@gavindaly5731]

@@xcalibertrekker6693 I think he means that you have to toe nail through the spacer into the studs . And no need to start name calling .

[@normanjacques4092]

Thanks. Stairs are hard. You are helping so many carpenters be better craftsmen. Much appreciated.

[@jwbeck21]

As my father used to say, “if you’re not messing up, you’re not trying hard enough!” Keep failing forward Scott. Love your channel so much and house is looking great!!

[@BillWalters77]

Thanks Scott. The hardest skill to learn is saying "I made a mistake" and then fixing it. You are a wise and humble man. I appreciate your videos.

[@ssnobody8775]

I use these two equations for building steps, I try to fit it into both when you have the room Rise +run = 18-19” Rise(2) + run = 25 The first rule has been around for awhile and the second I got from Mike Guerton, fine home building, great carpenter. Keep up the good work!

[@tallswede80]

using these will guarantee code compliance, correct?

[@scottriddle5468]

I've been hooked on watching your videos for the last 4 months now and I love it keep doing what you doing brother

[@KarlHeinzofWpg]

I'm a draftsman in the steel business (a steel detailer), and I remember the sick worried feeling I used to get when I spotted a mistake in my drawings when they had already gone into the shop or out into the field. It's one thing to fix your own error on a drawing, but then you have to call an ironworker and explain how he just wasted a day because he was doing what I told him to do. I'm I going to get fired over this!???? ugh, it's so worrisome and embarrassing. Luckily I had good mentors who taught me how to deal with mistakes, just like they taught me how to represent steel on a drawing. It's all part of the craft expertise we all strive to reach and maintain. The best lesson is the simplest. When you make a mistake you must own up to it immediately, pick up the phone and let the effected people know, then get to work on a solution. Take the ribbing in a good natured way and chalk it up to experience.

[@psidvicious]

Ugh 🤦‍♂️! That reminds me of the worst mistake I ever made. The set of drawings I had, had a string of measurements on both sides of the page. One string had been corrected, the other string hadn’t. Guess which string I followed? Bcz there were ‘correct’ measurements on the page, I couldn’t blame anyone but myself. The result was, about a dozen columns and their footing pads all poured exactly 1 foot off layout. I floated the idea, to the engineer, of picking up the entire column and footing and moving it to the correct spot, and to my surprise, he said yes. Some of the column pads were 15yds+ of concrete or ~61,000lbs (27,700Kg), not including the column. Fortunately about a half dozen of my colleagues agreed to work with me, free of charge, over the weekend to fix the problem. The company only had to eat the equipment costs of a 100ton crane and a backhoe. That sinking feeling you get, the moment you realize you’ve made a huge blunder - that nauseating “Oh no..” moment, is something I don’t wish on my worst enemy. 😣

[@bobcougar77]

I thought you guys dealt with your mistakes by stamping V.I.F on everything ;)

[@psidvicious]

@@bobcougar77 Haha! The N.T.S. stamp was always very annoying as well.

[@KarlHeinzofWpg]

@@bobcougar77 Or if you really want to cover your ass..."Cut to suit, Bang to fit, Paint to match"... in a nice big cloud above the titleblock.

[@Chuck-U-Farlie]

I've been the guy who had to take your prints and layout the marks on the concrete floor so the steel guys could come in and cut holes in the floor for stair access to a lower level. Knowing that those stair systems were already being built, and that if i was wrong on my layout, i would come into work the next day with a bunch of angry steel workers staring at me really made it tough to sleep that night. Thank goodness i took my time and got it right. that was a satisfying day.

[@danilotirona]

...a well produced , informative ,and entertaining product !

[@DavidSmith-cp7ro]

I had one of those Hitachi decking staplers for years, most dependable gun I’ve owned

[@davidschinsing8789]

Mine too

[@Kaltinril]

The humility is unmatched. Keep up the good work yourself.

[@SteveoAtilla]

I applaud your willingness to own up to a mistake made, regardless of what lead to the mistake. Congratulations, sir!

[@davidwooden4175]

Thank you for going and showing us that you replaced the sore subject of the flawed stairs.

[@lebronjordan802]

A real master carpenter knows how to admit his mistakes makes me even more admire you 👍👊!!

[@safemasteryoh2717]

I do want to thank you for all your video content that you share. I am a apprentice carpenter, and your information as well as videos help me so much in this trade. I am glad I found you on KZbin. I wish I lived in Arizona and worked with someone like you. Keep up the good work. You are my favorite KZbin person to watch and learn from.

[@vlookup_tim]

One thing for certain: You won't make that mistake again. Life goes on.

[@mattdoliver1984]

Only recently came across your videos I'm a young carpenter/joiner from the UK and I wish I would have found your channel ealier, the tone of your voice and the way you carry yourself as a person is really admirable. My favourite video is about the string line and I'm using the larks head everytime I need a string line at work now, and the other one with the loop and 5 twists round your finger? I cant remember the name but works a treat! So thankyou for helping me in my day to day working life! Your like the David Attenborough of the construction world lol 😁👍🏼👌🏼✌🏼

[@ThaKidOVOXO]

Such a gorgeous book - each shed is unique and inspiring, and I love all the tiny details Kotite features to help readers imagine how to create their own She Sheds kzbin.infoUgkxe9yi0sulKgsp0VJJCIrLWWkvVqcU7LFR . The feature on Dinah's Rustic Retreat is like something from a fairy tale. It's really inspiring to see how creative all these ordinary people are in making beautiful and useful spaces on a modest scale.

[@ElAnvaBar]

The new stairs look great! The error can happen anyone. We're people after all! Keep up the good work! And the kids at the end where fun to see having fun! Brings back the memories from when I was a kid. Not that it's so long ago. But man adulting is not as much fun as being a kid.

[@PatrickWagz]

Rusty: "Hey Grandpa? How *do* you build a set of stairs?" EC: "Well buddy, you just take it *one step* .... at a time!" :-/

[@Petzlglyph]

It's not what go's wrong, but how well a mistake is dealt with, that makes a true craftsman! Made a similar mistake once but we cut the Mistake stairs free without damaging them. A month later landed a second story addition where the owners begged us (and paid a little extra) to stay in the house while we did the second floor. We mounted the Mistake stairs to the outside and used them for access during construction (added original stair cost into bid). Later sold the Mistake stairs for twice the cost of materials to a guy building a barn. Figuring out a way to recover the costs of our mistakes tends to blunt the burr of the initial mistake!

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

A) I love that you let us in on the mistake (lots wouldn't have) and B) I am showing this episode to my detailing class next semester; I teach them stair calculating and detailing. Sorry I couldn't have been there to help you avoid that plate of humble pie! LOL Kidding; we've all made mistakes of that kind. Good job.

[@justinweier4099]

Scott, the very first video of yours I ever came across...was the first time I ever tried to build a set of exterior stairs. Now here I am, trying to plan out another set (this time into the basement of a 120-year-old house), and I find this video. So I for one am grateful for your mistake. Because following along with this video is going to make this job that much easier. Thanks so much for the work you do and for sharing it with us.

[@adamgeiman9407]

When laying out the pattern, I like to find the hypotenuse of the the rise and run triangle. Using Pythagoreans Theorem (a^2 + b^2 = c^2). I then mark the points of cuts down the length of the stringer. Finally with the my framing square set I put the point of the square at the points marked and trace. This prevents a compounding tolerance run away if the you don't have your square gauges perfect or don't connect your lines perfectly every time on the rounded edge of the lumber. A 1/16" mistake repeated over 12 treads becomes 3/4" at the end of the line. Hopefully that makes sense and is useful to someone.

[@psidvicious]

Good advice that not many stairmen actually use. I always laid out my stringers like that. To take it a step further - Hold the tape on zero and keep adding the hypotenuse, consecutively till the end, to avoid more compounding errors by ‘leap frogging’ the tape one measurement at a time. The more you do to prevent cumulative error on stairs, the better. This is especially helpful when you’re absolutely, positively married to a measurement at the bottom of the stairs.

[@adamgeiman9407]

@@psidvicious That's exactly the way I do it. I always end a shim or block plane from dead on.

[@davidschinsing8789]

Yeah... you got to know the target length of the whole set.

[@aliciaspence5974]

@@psidvicious Taking it further still-you can add accuracy by snapping a line at the inside cut of riser/tread then run tick off your hypotenuse numbers there. No crown problems, no rounded edges on the kd to mess with.....

[@frankgorgone6679]

I love this idea! I will be using this from here on out👍

[@rogerwillcox2652]

This is My Rock and Roll , thank you Essential Craftsman.

[@badcat4707]

Scott , I hope you were able to get some small satisfaction out of it by being able to take a chainsaw to it for the demo , lol ;-)

[@dvasymmetry9696]

Yes, what an effective tool!

[@paullopinto2777]

And the Burke bar. All time favorite!!

[@alanr745]

A chainsaw and a Burke bar...that had to be semi-therapeutic. Well said words BadCat.

[@badcat4707]

@@alanr745 / thank you ;-)

[@sandollor]

This had a better opening than most movies nowadays. Thanks for sharing the mistake. Even a master craftsman like yourself can make mistakes and it's important to show people that a mistake can be acknowledged with grace and the determination to make things right. You continue to impress and teach me and others every time you release a video. Thank you.

[@andrewv5104]

Squeeky steps and floors are my favorite home security system. It only sucks when they squeak when there isn't any one walking on the floor.

[@jacksonross7697]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightingale_floor

[@nanky432]

Your average ghost is not concerned with noises.

[@kentonbolte931]

I've built a few stairs......these are gorgeous. Thanks for teaching how to do the right thing.

[@JeffKnoxAZ]

Watching you leveling and remeasuring and checking level again, reminded me of the time My dad and one of the Elders from church were building a deck at Dad's house. The Elder stopped at one point and said, "Neal, we're building a deck, not a watch. Close enough is close enough." I understand your determination to get these stairs perfect. Keep up the good work.

[@georgepatient7710]

Its your dads house he determines what close enough entails.

[@matthewseed3386]

We all make mistakes, good to see someone with the integrity to own up to them and correct the mistake before someone else makes them.

[@FelipeSQ04]

Damn, don't want to start a discussion, but wouldn't all that math be much simpler by using the metric system?! :D On another note, it is quite nice to see your grandkids growing throughout the whole series! Feels like when Google photos decide to make me a video to show how my own kids have grown! Keep up the good work!

[@andrewcarr2431]

yep, metric is much easier.

[@chipperkeithmgb]

Been in the carpentry and joinery trade for 55 years metric is the way to go when I make stairs but for everything else still use feet and inches from Oxford England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@JMKady76]

It's easier if you've grown up with or learned a trade with it, for someone that's used imperial measurements their whole life it's second nature, and not really something that slows you down at all.

[@FelipeSQ04]

@@chipperkeithmgb Exactly, the way I saw him doing the conversion, then division, then conversion back I was thinking, damn. All this work should have been a simple division. But I get it that it is much easier when you are used to it.

[@FelipeSQ04]

@@JMKady76 Thanks for the clarification. To me it just seem like extra steps that shouldn't even exist, at least in the stairs part of the video. And yeah, I was born in the metrics system and never even used imperial at all until I moved to Canada... This place is a mess! Things are all mixed up. For human measurement, they use imperial, for food, metrics.... They should really start teaching the metrics system since school...

[@mdrobnson3912]

Love it when the grands show up. It's always a lot of work But it's better when you share it with those you love.

[@dansmart22]

The true measure of a builder is how they respond to inevitable mistakes, owning up to it and fixing it takes character.

[@astroblue6207]

I enjoyed watching you build those stairs. Stairs always remind me of this funny story. I was a lead man after so many years, and my partner was Keith. He could charm anyone. He got the big model homes, and one of his jobs was to check the prints for mistakes. Then he would hand them to me and ide double-check them. It was the 80s, and we were building two-story homes. Keith told me he checked the prints, and I didn't need to. I started the crew going, build up, headers, cripples, etc. I saw on the prints this wooden spiral staircase. I put Karl, the roof cutter, on it. He got about halfway up, and I turned the page for the next floor to stay ahead. At the top of this spiral staircase was a toilet. I showed Karl, and he was not amused. The whole crew laughed when I told them how I found Kieth asleep at home under his ceiling fan. Turns out the second-floor print was wrong,.And this was the only time I ever heard of the bathroom moving! Enjoyed your show very much.

[@neverenoughtime3151]

Honesty is best... It wasn't a mistake, you were just trying to make some well-crafted kindling. ;-D

[@calumgannaway869]

Gidday mate, I'm an Aussie carpenter living and working in Queensland Australia. I love your video series. You do things a little different to us but your honesty and dedication to your trade is the same. I think a younger version of you is Kyle from RR Buildings. I don't think a good bottle of whiskey would survive the night with the two of you. Keep up the good work and I hope you find a young bloke to take the batton into the future. The world still needs a guy who knows how to swing a hammer.

[@johnbaxter6494]

Curious as to your code reference. IRC is 7.75” max riser with 11” tread min without nosing.

[@ShoeRyan]

I was under the same impression. I'm assuming the hardwood tread covers have integrated nosing, but that still leaves the tread 3/8" short. Hopefully we're wrong though.

[@ifscottcanyoucan]

Thank you for sharing this. You are an inspiration. Mistakes and all.

[@user-qf7lq5ym4o]

Fantastic video. Great ownership of this whole process Scott. Nate, great filming as ever. 🇬🇧 🇺🇲

[@jonmitchell5516]

You never truly know someone until you see how they handle a mistake. Awesome job and awesome content.

[@patrickfiles6080]

From my point of view, this do-over on the stairs is a mark of authenticity and integrity. Ninety-nine percent of everything demonstrated on youtube comes out perfect. When I try it in my garage, the same activity usually takes three tries and some cursing. Keep up the good work!

[@yankkesrule]

I always go....So that’s how NOT to do it. I call them learning experiences

[@slightcurvegrin7507]

Awesome ending! Always love watching your videos. Keep them pouring in.

[@tkilg7169]

My Dad had a saying about mistakes like this. He would say, "I'll laugh about this in about a hundred years".

[@mateoedwards959]

My dad had a similar saying it was well I’ve fucked up bigger things

[@calebfarley9101]

Dang I wish I had someone like you when I was growing up to learn from. I love making things but it's always been the learn as you go or youtube it. That's why I appreciate these types of videos. If you get bored one of these weekends you should come help me build a patio cover off the back of my house.

[@eugeneboronow9779]

I love how you're obviously irked (to put it mildly) about the stair error. It's fun to see your personality come through the video. (Fun for us, of course).

[@ignagfitzpeltz]

Thanks for sharing. I always gain something when I watch your videos.

[@Deano.1978]

One of the pitfalls of being a Craftsman like Scott is that when he builds something, he makes it to last. Having to rip it out probably takes twice as long as building it in the first place :)

[@chancethompson8686]

That's why he used a chainsaw and heavy bar, to RIP it out.. ✌

[@spencerwyche2552]

Im an electrician,but at the same time,I recognize good quality workmanship.Great job sir!!

[@280nosler]

A heartfelt thank you for this series. It gave me the confidence to build out a 1400 SQ foot basement by myself. Inspection has been complete, and the feeling is awesome to do it yourself and learn.

[@brandonb552]

love your content, brings back fond memories for this retired Framer. Keep Rockin!

[@ninjajedistuff]

“7 and 5/8ths by 9 and 5/8ths: rock and roll.”

[@JJGreive]

where are those dimensions acceptable? what code allows that?

[@h82crash]

@@JJGreive Everything I've seen is 7- 3/4" max rise and 10" min tread.

[@Oneguyinc.]

To error is human! You’re right it doesn’t matter how or who,fix the problem,learn from it and move forward.you do excellent work and I’d be honored to shake your hand.keep doing what you do! Thank you

[@cameronf3343]

When I heard you say “each step is an eighth of an inch higher than the building code allows” I felt my eyebrows clench in confusion so tightly I’m surprised I don’t have a unibrow now.

[@binarymystic]

@B How many particles per million is your face mask allowing, citizen?

[@bravejango12]

Have you ever walked on stairs that were too steep? If you have you realize quickly when you trip over a step. Now imagine you are blind and you are stepping down onto stairs that are too steep. It might seem like a small thing to you but you never know who is going to be coming along after you. Sometimes codes seem to make no sense but they have been made from the mistakes that people have made and sometimes those mistakes have cost people their lives. Look up the Stone Stairs of Death in Savannah GA for an example,

[@mabolzichjjl]

You made the right choice going with wood stairs in the entrance. Gives the house a much greater presence! Especially because it's the first impression you get when you open the front door

[@XPStartupSound]

Your youngest grandson with the hose was having a blast! Lol

[@chrismcfrederick3212]

Scott... you helped me calm down with this episode. THANK YOU for including it. I've been building for many years. That being said I've built a few staircases. I built my first dome porch last year on a fancy poolhouse. It was quite mind boggling. Turned out super And one of the most awesome things I've ever built. Long story short I framed up a small deck platform a week ago Squaring it up 3 different ways. Started laying composite deck boards yesterday and realized I was not square. Something so simple.... I cried a little bit.. Anyway thanks again. I enjoyed the whole Series

[@markbarkhouse]

My grandad would say “the difference between a good carpenter and a bad one is knowing how to hide your mistakes and knowing when to fix them.”

[@edlomonaco]

My grandpa used to say ,about mistakes, "I can't see it from my house!" And "caulk and paint make it what it ain't!" My grandpa did shitty work.

[@IamSystemsbuster]

I believe the saying goes " A little paper, a little paint, make her what she ain't".

[@jameslund221]

Also paint to match

[@jeffputnam8554]

Another great video Scott. We all have THOSE days but that is what makes us learn and grow. I don't know if anyone down the years will think about or appreciate stairs that give them no problems, but I know one craftsman that will sleep well knowing it was done right.

[@sass1ap]

What would have been funny is if when the building inspector came, they messed with you, and said those stairs aren't to code too lol

[@TheCR1979]

Beautiful home. Thanks for sharing it with us!

[@tysleight]

We need to get off the imperial system. Base 12 mixed with base 16 converted to base 10 then back to base 12 and 16 is nuts!

[@spokebloke1]

Yep! My American friends' stubborn refusal to drop the Imperial system always amazes me. Why use a system where you have to use fractions for every measurement when you can use the same base 10 numbers we all use for (almost) everything else!?

[@loganpatterson4674]

Metric is objectively subjectively positively inferior to the greatest system on earth- Imperial. Or as I like to call it, the American system because we’re the only nation that widely used it.

[@tysleight]

@@loganpatterson4674 let's keep this at a 2 grade math level so basic adding 1 mile+ 1 yard + 1 foot + 1 inche +1/16=? 63,409.2985 inches Now let's do it in metric 1km + 1 m+1mm=1,001,001mm. Now since I'm eating breakfast how many cups in a gallon or how many tablespoons are in that same gallon. What one can you do without google and a calculator?

[@aserta]

At this point it's just stubborn, foolish pride. Metric is just plain simpler, that's the short and long of it.

[@georgepatient7710]

@@loganpatterson4674 you are aware its still widely used in the UK right.

[@pavel0900]

Such a pleasure to watch you work. Everyone makes mistakes, but you clearly take pride in what you do and when you fix the mistakes, it’s flawless 👌🏻

[@davidgoulden586]

A great channel. Don’t worry to much about making a mistake whilst constructing stairs it can happen to the best of us. Have you ever thought of using the metric system for measurement, it’s much easier to measure in millimetres and it saves most of the mathematical and conversion exercise. Keep up the good work and all the best with you project.

[@mfbfreak]

I think there's a video about that. The general message was that when you've spent your life working with imperial, it's not worth the effort to switch, because 99% of the time the imperial system just works fine and you're kinda locked into it with tools and materials in imperial sizes. I think it would be a good idea to get the new generations to start using metric so the industry can also slowly make the switch. Behind the scenes, many things are metric already.

[@anttiroppola4414]

Consensus is just as important. If the industry is imperial, I will stick to it and avoid a different set of unit conversions and communication surprises.

[@aspeck360]

You remind of my grandfather... a world of knowledge love your show

[@51-FS]

Take 2?

[@bennyboo5317]

On our building site a mistake has its own identity and is owned by the whole team. We do not say can’t and have no problems, only opportunities to display greatness and overcome. Myself and our team enjoy your channel greatly. Greetings from a Builder in Australia 🙂

[@justgonnagetbetter1037]

When you see that big chainsaw and pry bar come out, something is gonna change.

[@dave1135]

Yep, those come out, stuff is gonna go down. Lol

[@51-FS]

Thats a burk bar....

[@elischultes6587]

Concrete forms the Burke bar is a good sign. It means you are done

[@candace3676]

That's exactly what Sweetie said! A power saw and a Burke Bar, somethins' gonna change.

[@johnmanning4577]

When I realized what he was up to with those tools, I thought "...now I would try to salvage what materials I could for future use." After a bit, it struck me there was no "take apart" in the way he builds stairs!!

[@andrewcarr2431]

Scott. I like it when professionals show their mistakes. Proves you are human and that us regular DIY'ers don't fell as bad when we also screw up. Love the tip about screwing down afterwards, adding that to my next project. It takes a big man to admit he was wrong and a professional man to fix it.

[@mikes1345]

Turn a boy loose around a sprayer hose and something is guaranteed to happen! As long as he keeps it outside.

[@janis1981]

Never had that problem with my 2 year old and 6 year old😂

[@psidvicious]

Doesn’t get much better than getting back at your older brother with a garden hose! Get ‘im Rusty!! 🤓

[@johncatt1867]

Mr. Scott, and Mr. Nate, y'all have some good helpers in that video, and I believe you need to double what ever it is that y'all are paying them.

[@klmbuilders5385]

I thought you going with a hardwood tread and riser this go round. Looks like you set it up for carpet again.

[@RobZeuli]

I’m with @klmbuilders I see the top and bottom step becoming an issue unless there was some subtracting we didn’t see! I really hope we’re wrong tho

[@jimellis1496]

The hardwood will be on top of and cover up the osb. It will make the staircase even stronger. Built like Fort Knox for sure!

[@RobZeuli]

@@jimellis1496 So the subfloor is receiving 3/4 hardwood and the bottom stringer was cut to 7 and 5/8. It has a 3/4 sub thread and then a 3/4 oak tread going on it. So the finish to finish of the first riser is now 8.36.'' Must have cut the bottom riser 3/4 shorter to make up for it. Makes sense now

[@klmbuilders5385]

Maybe the idea is to fasten the finish treads and risers from underneath but that would be near impossible on the bottom tread.

[@ashsmashburn]

@@klmbuilders5385 I do prep work for installers, I always tear out osb and replace with plywood to give them good fastening point.

[@gatekeeper258]

Man, I would pack my life up and move to wherever EC is to be able to work for him. A wise and tempered man is truly an awesome leader!

[@zachm8765]

Is this the second or third time to build these? Thought we already ripped them out once. Maybe it's deja vu.

[@essentialcraftsman]

Second build thankfully!!

[@ddutton0]

For some reason o was thinking this was three as well! Glad I was not the only one and also gals to hear it was not three as that would have been a pain!

[@yuwtze]

I think it was just that the videos were so far behind the construction that they had already ripped out the first set of stairs by the time the video went up, so they mentioned that they were coming out in a future video.

[@warrenmichael918]

1st tear out but he has talked about in past video, maybe you remember the story and thought it was actual video of the removal.

[@mitchdenner9743]

@@ddutton0 probably because his son mentioned that he ripped them out and rebuilt them in his walkthrough video he made. And now that he actually published the video on it, made it seem like a third time.

[@Ericwseed]

I like how you expressed humility in your error, and humbly rectified the situation. It takes a big man to do that.

[@HemiOrange]

Over an 1/8", I would make that inspector get a new tape measure.

[@777cygnus]

I had to break out a. Stoop 15 inch thick concrete becsuse of an 1/8 inch. Inspector. Jack off.

[@3thomasdm]

i was sued for a threshold that was 1/4" too high

[@t.e.1189]

I've enjoyed every video that I have ever watched of yours. I'm a professional finish carpenter of 35 years. That's all I do basically. I have worked on more homes that I can count. In spite of that, I know very little about some of the other trades. That's why I like your videos. Stairs aren't easy. I which I could have helped you with them. I worked on a crew for 10 years before I became the regular stair man, once the previous stair left the crew. I learned a lot from him as well as another really good carpenter that was like a mentor to me. You too are true leader, teacher and mentor. It would have been a real pleasure to have worked along side you. I like learning from others and sharing what I've learned in return. Also, it takes real humility to admit when you make a mistake and then make it right no matter what the cost. You are a man of principle and I like that. I never met you , but I have a lot of respect for you. Keep up the good work!

[@Alex-xh1zi]

I wish there was less shame around making mistakes. Everyone does it - I've made some whoppers.

[@mopedmarathon]

I once spilt superglue on a £40k paint job whilst working at a super car manufacturer. Damn that was a bad day. At least I wasn’t the guy who slammed a door that hadn’t been adjusted and smashed the latch striker through the door shut of the carbon monocoque. Now he had a whole bad week.

[@brikshoe6259]

I put a 4x6 beam in the ground (for a deck) that was off square a couple of degrees. One of the braces must have moved when I was putting the concrete in and I didn't catch it until the concrete was already set up.

[@andrewcarr2431]

agreed. I've learned more from mistakes than I have from successes. The trick is not repeat the mistake in the future.

[@JF0913]

Man you’re definitely an Essential Craftsman. Don’t be so hard on yourself about a mistake you made. All your work is amazingly beautiful and perfect. I learned so much from you throughout the years from your channel I appreciate you sharing your knowledge!

[@elektro9564]

Well, they say third times the charm, and youre getting your practice in

[@spike229]

Best part of this video is the opinion that something being common doesn't mean it's correct. Quality workmanship is incredibly valuable and I wish more people agreed with me.

[@johnalexander2349]

For the rest of the world: 7.61" = 193mm rise, 9.625" = 244.5mm tread. (Not what I'd call 'a comfortable staircase for a high end house' and yes, that is a jab at your architect.)

[@Scrial]

I kept thinking how much simpler and faster the calculations would have been in metric.

[@manuzach]

@@Scrial plus finding mid point is easier in metric ...!

[@lordaleksandre]

Yeah, we generally wouldn't call it "comfortable" here in Freedom land either. But we would't go crazy and start measuring in centipeters. 🤪

[@BillB23]

@@lordaleksandre Centipeters? Is that hundredths of a schwantz?

[@bmay8818]

@Right Round Metric is just objectively superior in every way, and I'll never understand why anyone defends imperial measurements. Mind you, I'm a US woodworker who's also building my big new shop right now, so I have a ton of ongoing experience with inches. Sure, you *can* convert fractions to decimals and back again, but why would you if you don't *have* to? What's easier, 7 3/32 + 9 13/16 or 43mm + 210mm? It's ludicrous that we're still on this awful system. I'll admit that there is no good equivalent of gallons in metric, but that's hardly a reason to stick with a system based on barley grains and hands.

[@evanleclaire]

From a fellow Swede, thank you for this awesome channel, you're great information, and positive attitude.

[@estebanrivera458]

Thought you were going to say “if you’re new to this video series, yes I can fix it all with a chainsaw and Burke bar” 😄

[@benritchsmith]

Stairs Redux Done with great humility and set right! What a great thing for others to see, especially younger folks coming up in the trade.

[@JackJohnson-mc7ki]

I thought max rise was 7 3/4"..

[@trailprice]

And also 10" minimum run.

[@Ramdodge582]

me too so i tipple checked and it is 7 3/4" max rise and 10" minimum run finished.

[@JackJohnson-mc7ki]

@@trailprice Possibly when the finished treads go on it will be minimum 10", it will have a bullnose up to 1"

[@takgrillo]

@Jack Code requirements are a bit different on each state. For example, here in NY the maximun riser height is 8 1/4", and the minimun thread depth is 9". And there's also small differences if the stair is for residential, or commercial use.

[@Ramdodge582]

@@takgrillo oh, i thought everyone followed the IBC.

[@terryanderson4151]

That was a fantastic video!!!! All your videos are. Thank you very much for all of your hard work and efforts in creating them for all of us out there. I am a journeyman carpenter in BC Canada and I have learned so much. They should put your series on Netflix.👍👍🙏🙏🙂

[@GregsWorkshopOregon]

Is it for real this time? I mean the video, not the stairs.

[@caseyjohnson5932]

I can’t help but admire your efficiency even when tearing out your work.

[@michaelvangundy226]

There is a really old saying about carpenters. You can measure their worth by their stairs and rafters.

[@MichaelVickery1]

Well done Nate! I think that this is some of your best video work.