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[@Khaltazar]

I taught my dog to not growl or snap at me even when I mess with her eating (i.e. putting my hand over the food or moving it away) and she never showed me any aggression, but you're right, she did show aggression to other members of my family. They consider you in charge and then they are in charge of everything below you. It's hard to get a dog to understand your family members are ranked above them and to not be aggressive with them unless they themselves show they are higher rank. For example, my parents come over and my dog sees I listen to them of course so the dog respects my parents because they rank above me. However, siblings the dog does not find them to be of higher rank than me or herself so she showed aggression towards them.

[@mikluap1]

i dont know why I'm watching this, I don't even have a dog

[@LeerburgDogTraining]

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[@jerryf871]

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[@CassieKennedy1998]

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[@CamilleGG451]

Two words: Malinois puppies!!!!! 😆😆💕💕💕💕

[@bslbeachbum]

This is really a great video. Thanks. As a dog trainer, I've been watching your posts for personal training. And I'm thankful you post this information. You are a great resource for me.

[@purpleraven8708]

but, you didn't explain how humans establish pack structure with the family dog

[@MagneticDwarfReptile]

should be pretty obvious on an intuetive level. like with a child you limit its access to freedom. if they behave you reward that behaviour, if they misbehave, you punisg. they will almost naturally see you as the dominant one because you can do things they cannot (open doors, bring food etc). the power inbalance is already established only from you being human and they being a dog. all you need to do is realize this imbalance and act on it. there's a good clip here on youtube explaining how a 1 tonne ox will see you as stronger than him because you can open the gate and he cannot.

[@caseymackey746]

This is awesome. So many people dont establish pack leadership and are dumbfounded when their pups protect a possession or couch etc. Thank you for this great teaching tool.

[@amerryamerry]

It's so fascinating to see how the alpha puppy doesn't even have to chase the other ones away. That's what alpha means. You just know that you're the king/queen :P

[@labitcoineragt3596]

This is one of the most interesting video I’ve watched in a while 😟

[@AikiSys]

Greeting from Dublin Ireland - Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge

[@adamcroft6114]

Who the fook is dis guy

[@melaniedickson7769]

Illustrative and helpful.

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[@LauraHopkinsCDL]

Having read the comments below I am left shaking my head. Having owned and trained packs of dogs there most certainly is a pack structure with one dog that is more dominant then the others. That dog is my 2nd in command after myself. If you understand packs each individual dog has its role in the pack. These days the purely positive bunch say there is no such thing as a dominant dog and that is total nonsense. Unless you have ever owned a large pack it really is better not to comment in my humble opinion. Great video which shows well handled pups .My latest wasn't handled at all and was a monster pup but I sorted that out very quickly .

[@mcg6513]

Laura's Life Dog Training & Dog Vlogs Like you it always amazes me how those who know the least about dogs and pack structure have the most to say. Many dogs end up in shelters because their people treat them like human children doing them a huge disservice. I have four dogs in my pack two of which are sport dogs, the hierarchy begins with me and filters down through my pack.

[@hueylouie5463]

Laura's Life Dog Training & Dog Vlogs give me 5 minutes with a ‘pack hierarchy denier’ at a dog day care centre lol. It’s clear as day

[@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786]

Laura's Life Dog Training & Dog Vlogs these soy feminist and beta males/females try that same erroneous crap with humans too. So against biology nature and real science that it is stupid stubborn and denial to a tee. Dumb people... (sighs)

[@carlabiddle9919]

Impressive work!

[@dogologyclass159]

This is why I ask my breeders to send me videos of the available litter's social standards.

[@genitagray6126]

Glad I found you!

[@msander6]

Great Video!

[@bricksantana213]

Idk how I got here but I'm 4 hits of some really potent lsd and these guys are so cool

[@bricksantana213]

But no I don't dogs are so smart.

[@gabhandebrun1871]

Good video I’m having issues with my intact AmBully classic biting on his lead while out walking it’s embarrassing at times but he can be great, good with other dogs, ppl,kids but jus has this issues which has him nipping at us also, he 25kg and big boy, don’t know what to do,it’s hard to remain calm at times any suggestions be great cheers 👍

[@tord6712]

My dogs look to me as their leader and what to do next in situations like the one that happened yesterday. So my neighbors 2 aggressive dogs got out and I told my dogs to stay and held their collars for safert measures, so my brother went to scare them away and they charged him with teeth barring and I told my dogs to go get them and they did my oldest dogs both grabbed one dog and fought them out of my yard then I told them to come back and they did! They all listened very well in that situation and came back and stopped fighting when I told them too

[@maureenhochberg7673]

Dogworld Me HeyI love dogs but please don’t let the dog drink from human water fountains!

[@tonimontoya2142]

Great video.

[@happytank4336]

Hello there, is there any chance to see second part for free?

[@grahamrowland6681]

Great video

[@zimsunflower]

We have just taken on a 2 year old, male, Huskamute (Siberian Husky x Malamute) from a Husky Rescue site. We have 2 children age 3 & 5 and a cat and need some help establishing pack structure - any suggestions?

[@joels5969]

Was this video shot on an ATM camera?

[@charbelbassil9973]

That channel is so underrated

[@winger468]

My female pit bull took about three months to accept that she was not my boss. She was 3 months old when I got her. Sooo at 6 mos old she finally started yielding to me all the time, stopped testing me. It took her another 6 months before she stopped challenging my male Great Pyraneese. She would try to boss him around and he would lay on her. She would finally scream in frustration, he would let her up and she would viciously try to attack him. She is well adjusted to her place in the pack now. Except for the two cats. She sometimes tries to boss them, still. Tries.

[@venniey]

Wow, I learned somethings. I'll watch the whole 22 minute vid. Have read or heard of "The Culture Clash" by Jean Donaldson. My vet had several copies and gave me one and I have just started it. I'm thinking you might have similar experiences with dogs. Vennie

[@8jerasikapark8]

This is good info but I was so nervous for one of them to get hurt!

[@daviddeiss3073]

Hi, would you recommend this breed or German Shepard?

[@wesschlosser1276]

Great video thanks for such a detailed breakdown!

[@JohnSmith-lg2ie]

It's a scientific fact that dogs are domesticated wolves. It is foolish to ignore their pack mentality. While corrections are necessary in training, it's also important to understand that subordinates willingly submitting out of respect rather than fear is what keeps peace in the pack. Leaders are followed because they are trusted and provide for others. A lone wolf does not survive long. They need allies to be successful.

[@mohammedjaffar5513]

Thank you for this, I’m so proud of my dog and myself, my dog did this following theses instructions, again thank you... i will start doing the clean your paws next! Warm greetings. Here is the official link: tinyurl.com/DogTraining588

[@quebexdog]

Couldn't agree more

[@BrothaNeo]

Thank you for this video! I am a 1st time dog owner and I own a 6-8 month old Blue Nose Pit bull. I say 6-8 month because the previous owner never told me how old he is and I forgot to ask lol! I was so excited to get a dog! I know he's young however because of his teeth. They are Ivory white without tarter buildup. This info in this video helps out a lot. Especially considering I want to get another dog!

[@hds_11]

I want to know if it's possible to keep two Male American Pit Bull Terriers without them fighting?

[@mayaportland8805]

ok, so what's the point? what we suppose to do in this situation?

[@jeezimbored2009]

I dont get it though if the dog with the yellow collar is more dominant how come the one with the purple collar attacked it or growled at it earlier instead of submitting

[@cindyromsa2906]

I am the owner of a pitbull, I can't say that I believe for a first-time dog owner a pitbull is the best choice. Now don't get me wrong my pitbull is the gentlest dog I've ever had but as a first-time owner I still don't think it's a good idea. The tenacity of these dogs are quite amazing.

[@davetrummer3439]

Anyone who has seen the wild dogs of European and Asian countries, located in the major metropolitan areas, can attest to the pack mentality of dogs. You Tube has many videos of these packs. Look for them (be warned, many involve attacks on other animals which are used for food).

[@MR.CLEAN777]

I had two dogs and I got another one and my 4 year old pit bull dosent trust him yet she is literally biting him and he’s peeing cause he’s scared

[@loue6563]

I have had many different breeds of dogs through the years. And they ALL will behave this way to an extent. Certain breeds can more aggressive than others. Many times the small dogs were even more aggressive then bigger ones. I must say though that the Australian shepherds were the ones we really had to watch. Not with people but with each other and other dogs. Even as tiny puppies when it came to feeding them we had to make long trays of food and put it all down at the same time and have a water hose ready. Because they went for blood. Not just little nips but all out biting and ripping into each other. This was at 5 or 6 weeks. And they were given plenty of food they were never left to go hungry at all. the only way we could find to control them when feeding was with a garden hose and we would spray them when the fighting started. We did finally get them to stop with this behavior. They even did this when they were 3 weeks old and nursing. By the time they were 4 months we had this under control. But it took at lot if work. I will say again were never aggressive with us at all. But let other animals come around they didn't know and they had no fear in going after it. When a big hound dog came up one day of the 7 week old puppies took off after it and grabbed it by the throat and did not let go. It was doing it's best to tear the dog's throat. And was hanging on until the dog had left the yard. The pup was quite proud he had "protected" me. I don't know if all Australian Sheppard dogs react this way or if it was just the 2 litters we had. Their mother was a stray mutt that was maybe a Beagle mix, but the pups looked and acted nothing like her. They were really very loving and sweet dogs ..most of the time. They were also very protective of what they considered theirs. Three of them once killed a snapping turtle because it had a hold of a duckling's leg. The turtle was huge and not timid about snapping at them but before I could get to them it was dead.

[@ferlykth]

lou e As an Australian Shepherd owner, i’ve seen lots of Aussies be very dominant and aggressive. At an ASCA show two aussies fought and one only glanced at another before they fought. I’ve had a friend’s six year old intact male fight my four year old intact male and pull out chunks of fur. I personally know MANY aggressive aussies due to me very active in the performance, sporting, herding, conformation and agility world. They are an intense breed of dog if you get them from good stock. I really value that in a working dog. It gets tough when you’re at a herding trial and you know that all the aussies there can whip each other’s asses if they look at each other for too long but whatever. I also notice a lot of male on male aggression but that’s usually the case with any intense herding breed bred to take no crap from mean bulls.

[@bryanstark324]

Why don't they let you post a 22+ minute video? many others post 45 minutes or more and they don't get taken down.

[@PaulYates1]

+Bryan “Ironman” Stark This was posted in 2008, back in the old days KZbin only allowed a 10min video, whereas now you can upload 10hr videos

[@brapidrotation]

Great video,but my goodness what high drive mals.

[@bernard311]

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[@leegacy3099]

KZbin now allows you to upload your entire life story in video format.

[@jerryf871]

Wow so sorry 🙏

[@marielong4092]

So if my dog seems to give up the ball or walk away when being stared at yet the same dogs that take his ball are the same ones constantly look to him and follow him around or lay in the hallway looking towards the room he is in until he comes out and they greet him with stiff body and tail wagging. What the heck does that mean?

[@caitlincoberly4364]

More parsimoniously explained using "resource guarding" explanations. Pup looks to Frawley and wags tail, relaxes ears becuase Frawley *gave* teh pup the bone. Source of yumminess. Best thing to do is not try and establish dominance, but show you are not a threat to possession--or indeed, are the source of all things wonderful.

[@frog4701]

Caitlin Coberly If you show no dominance the dog would be able to get away with everything. Technically meaning it is the alpha therefore meaning they assume they are aloud to do anything they want. Saying no or correcting a behavior shows dominance.

[@jordanbarnett7247]

Damn they were in the podcast game before joe Rogan!

[@marielong4092]

There are 1he long videos on KZbin everywhere lol

[@caitlynyoung1402]

This was posted 13 years ago though haha so maybe it was different :)

[@niclasjohansson5992]

Back in 2009 you'd watch whole movies like Indiana Jones on KZbin in ten minute parts

[@apocfaildotorg]

@@niclasjohansson5992 ah. Those were (not) the good old days

[@margaretjohnson6259]

the dogs never questioned that my husband was the pack leader. the 18 month old dog we adopted had been through several homes and had a rough start in life. then my husband died and i was left with a dog that wouldn't behave on any level. i thought about it and thought about it and suddenly realized that while the other dogs accepted me as leader, SHE didn't. so, one day, i decided she was going back to the pound or she would accept me as leader. she didn't listen to me, so i grabbed a plastic hanger and the shaker can (soda can with a couple of pennies in it, dogs hate the sound), and chased her down swinging the hanger, screaming at her and shaking the can. she and i have been a lot happier ever since. (no, plastic hangers don't hurt and i didn't want to hurt her as she'd been hit a lot when younger, but it was an untenable situation and i felt i had to completely cow her. i tried hitting myself with the hanger to make sure it wasn't painful). i know it wasn't the best way to establish dominance, but it was my way or the highway.

[@shropshirelass4362]

I'm sure you're not speaking for her when you say she's happier. If I were your dog I'd rather be in the pound. You sound like a holy terror. Are you real or a troll? Don't be surprised if she turns on you. She's probably giving you a whole host of body language that tells you what you're doing is not okay. If you don't know how to train a dog, learn. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/201205/is-punishment-effective-way-change-the-behavior-dogs

[@margaretjohnson6259]

Akela DeWolf. the dog had had several owners and was originally rescued as a starving stray. no one seems to have taught her anything before i brought her home. i tried the rewards and ignoring for nine months to no effect. she was not hurt or beaten, but she had to know who was boss. dogs are of wolves and no wolf would put up with her behaviour without a smack down. after that she has been more obedient, sits with me more often, follows me around, and is happy. don't pretend to know what i was dealing with. i wasn't attending to her behaviours, but her attitude. she didn't know who was boss and now she does. when she does the wrong thing now all i have to say is no and she stops the behaviour.

[@victorvaca2606]

you train the baby to not take the bone away from the dog lol

[@dw1920]

I have 4 small dogs they do this when someone comes to the door the only way I can get them apart is kicking them not hard but enough to stop them

[@freki9420]

The people who say dogs aren't pack animals are the same people who say dogs can't eat raw meat. Also, dogs didn't evolve from wolves. It's relatively new information but genetic testing shows that dogs and wolves actually evolved from a common ancestor.

[@valerie5749]

Freki all dog breeds were derived from various wild dogs such as wolves and dingos, for example. Further breeding by humans was done selectively and led to the many breeds that we know today. Even those breeds are still being selectively bred. So yes you’re right, they’re not “evolved” from wolves, however they were bred from them to the now domesticated breeds by mixing traits and characteristics and then segregating those groups into different breeding groups to keep a single group of traits that make up that specific breed. Also, scientifically, dogs do come from wolves because if they were a different genus, they wouldn’t be able to produce viable offspring. Different species derived from one and/or many of the same genus that originated from Earth’s wild wolf, Fox, dingo, wild dog, etc population(s). Even those few breeds went through natural selective breeding in the wild from even older varieties of wild dog.

[@freki9420]

@@valerie5749 human have never tamed wolves so how could they selectively breed them? The research shows that dogs were never wolves but wolves and dogs came from a common ancestor like humans and apes. It didn't happen so far away though only about 300,000 years ago and human didn't tame them (dogs) until around 150,000 - 200,000 years ago. The reason they can mate is because there isn't much difference between the two species

[@thomasdudley4558]

Cats do this to kittens wrestle each other as puppies do

[@stephendekoning5689]

also many wild animals form partnerships in wild, like great apes baboons monkeys and dogs all living together, birds of prey with badgers foxes wolves etc.. and many others I can't think off off top of head even cold blooded ones together or with warm blooded but they don't try to mate, btw some dogs bred n trained dog aggressive but bred to be handled in middle of horrible fights with terrible injuries never even least aggressive to people, so there you know dogs do know difference in species etc of animals as I've seen dogs eat each other immediately when one sick injured dies, where they wait till human starts turning to eat but will eat healthy humans when hungry as well, and most wolves won't eat family or rival wolves dead or living human but scavenge dead humans once body starts going off. foxes will eat fingers etc they bite off of humans and scavange their mate n pups when dies but not strange foxes. coyotes n jackals left out but can elaborate on them for comparison as well etc other less recognized canids (or raccoon dogs.. lol).

[@kasadielizabeth2434]

My stepfather is pretty much the alpha in our pack ( two females, one puppy male) . They listen to him better than anyone. But with out my stepfather . They have no leader it just goes around until they see him or us. But they take awhile to listen to us

[@yeetasaurusyeet6234]

My puppy took a bone under my bed and i stuck my finger under there and he ripped up my finger

[@TheGoldenDunsparce]

For your question about whether obedience training would solve this or not, it wouldn't. That's because obedience training IS NOT behavioral training. Those are two very different concepts and is an unfair straw-man argument. Seeing as the puppies have food-guarding issues that you've promoted by offering scarce high-value food to a large group of dogs, I'm not surprised the dogs felts that they had to fight over the resource. That's how you feed puppy mill puppies, and the most aggressive get what they want, and are often the same dogs who end up getting put down for biting children who walked by the food bowl without even noticing the food there. I'd like to see if you, as the "alpha", could walk in there and take the actual bone away from your puppy while it's eating it, and hand it to another puppy without the dogs going nuts. How much control would you have? I've done this with my dog and he doesn't even consider stealing it back from his sister, nor attempt to stop me from taking his food away. That's because he doesn't have resource-guarding issues. He's not insecure and understands that I know what I'm doing, and anything I do is just. He's rewarded for being generous. When the dogs fight over something, I take it away and so no one gets to enjoy it. They know this, and thus never fight over resources. In your case, the puppy guarding the food isn't it being dominant - she's extremely insecure and reactive. She's very fearful that her food will be stolen, and so she's resorted to snapping and growling. Normally, dogs communicate ownership of food by speeding up eating, stoping and hard-staring, tensing up the body, AND THEN they growl, AND THEN they snap. Your puppies have learned that going overboard is the only way to get their point across. Her littermates don't even listen to her. At one point the food wasn't even there, and she was attacking the other dogs, afraid it'd be taken away. No one gives a crap about her. She bit her litter mate AFTER it turned away rather than WHEN it got all over her food, EATING SOME as she growled at it. She's not alpha; she's a bully. It's very unfortunate.

[@jedidiah5131]

New dog brought into the house....behavior; she puts her paw on the established male dogs back- trying to dominate him....he launches himself at her and snaps at her....she no longer puts her paw on his back....why because he is the pack leader.....She now approach's the other established female with the same behavior...same outcome....and to prove this when I open the door for them to go out they do so in the established pack order.....

[@shane-oshaunason7590]

Why doesn’t KZbin allow 22 minute videos??

[@mynmisoli]

Wow, purely positive people still saying that dogs aren't pack animals. Goes to show you that ignorance is a powerful thing.

[@scotiabushcraft9570]

Yes, they are ignoring the very clear video evidence and just repeating the 'dogs are human too' nonsense. Or, 'But dogs aren't pack animals!' Lol.

[@hueylouie5463]

It’s baffling

[@jedidiah5131]

New dog brought into the house....behavior; she puts her paw on the established male dogs back- trying to dominate him....he launches himself at her and snaps at her....she no longer puts her paw on his back....why because he is the pack leader.....She now approach's the other established female with the same behavior...same outcome....and to prove this when I open the door for them to go out they do so in the established pack order....

[@hueylouie5463]

Jedidiah exactly. There are so many very basic examples where they’ll establish their position

[@stephendekoning5689]

you positive trainers believing dogs are not pack animals, need to study groups of domestic stray feral and wild species of dogs who all live in "packs". foxes live single or in pairs that young leave when can hunt, where wolves, wild dog species ferals strays and pets keep pack mentality, where family members continue to live together once can take prey and after sexual maturity. key difference being wolves only pup in spring from alpha pair more often, while wild dog species ferals strays and pets mostly all raise litters in pack two or more times per year. new evidence though not popular mainstream science finally catching up with real field scientists, showing dogs came from wild dog species and not wolves directly like lazy mainstream popular science sensationalizes based on how you can cross wolves and dogs and many breeds have wolf mixed in.. however some breeds like skipperkee have bred into them so by new dog science pretty soon people will say dogs came from foxes. lol just cruel hungry for money people making excuse to keep dog confined alone all day and night etc while you're gone. news flash, stopping dogs natural behaviors to roam hunt pack up and maul etc, are cruelty as well, like when people kept in isolation solitary confinement with nothing to do for days weeks years. you people keep dogs starved crazy for affection through isolation then say look how much dog loves you because has had and knows nothing else. it'd be like experiments were two people who don't like each other isolated different racist even etc, the n get along, or those two or group dropped off in strange land and cannot communicate with or know no one else in strange land and language.. I swear people who've never been out in field science think they know better reading screen or papers.

[@marielong4092]

I agree to a point. If you ever watched stray dogs in the city with the woods behind them. You'll see they mostly live alone. But they will pack up to complete a goal such as attacking prey. And I also agree that dogs come from wild dogs

[@crunchyalmondbutter2239]

If I had a child that was 2,3,4,5, 6 years old, I would FEED them in the morning before giving them treats. I have nine children, one 6 year old dog and 3 puppies. All are submissive to all humans, including the 2 year old youngest child. We have all fed each dog their kibble by hand. *WE* control their food and even the youngest tells the pups to "sit" and gives the treat. This video shows dog on dog which is different than humans. I do not take my dog's food away but I do make sure that we can get in there. The littest ones will give a treat in the middle of feeding time. I can pet the dogs, take the food (if I wanted to, which I have done with bully sticks) etc. However, the dogs have me stumped on why they still fight. The adult dog rarely pays much attention to the others. She is fine with the most submissive (a 4 month old male) pestering her or me paying attention to him but... The two younger females? I am at a loss. She will not hurt them but she will become possessive of me and growl, on occcasion, or bark, loudly, in their faces, even though they get the message and immediately submit (belly up). I would love to know what is going on with them??? BTW, we have been teaching basic obedience since 8 weeks of age. They are on leash at all times in the house and outside (except puppy class which is harmless while supervised). Anyway, I am missing something. So, we are doing some things right but others, we are totally missing!

[@johnrencher9554]

Danielle, I am a professional trainer like the one in this video. I want to address the this is a dog on dog not dog on human comment. A dog does not recognize you as a human, you are funny looking dog. This is an example of rank dominance and not how to feed your dog video. If a dog has a toy or anything it has possessed the Alpha dog or pack leader, which will only be one person contrary to what you think or believe that can remove that object. This way of thinking has lead to numerous dog bites. " my dog turned on me, my dog just went crazy, I don't know what happened " All these statements come from owners who just don't understand pack structure and think because they haven't bitten that they won't. Your dogs see your children as litter mates they are not being submissive they just don't have a reason to bite them. If you give your dog something and he takes it off to himself, there is only one person or dog that can get it with no struggle and that would be alpha. Dogs are not human and they have structure even when we don't here are some simple tips for all owners with a new dog, so they know what to do. 1 you never feed the dog when you eat they eat last. 2. Always enter the home or car first and the puppy last, even if you have to lean over and pick it up you are first. 3. Training should take place at 8 weeks old everyday with a reward after each correct to your standard performance of the new technique healing, sitting etc..when your dog is 16 weeks old it should be able to be walked off leash heal, sit, stay until called being left at 100yds away from you. Kennel training is the best to house break. A dog won't pee or poop where it lays. Getting a kennel big enough to stand and lay down is what you will need. When it whines take him out say do your business and when he pee and poop reward make a big deal about it and back to the kennel. A smart breed like the ones in this video will accomplish this in a week. They will come to you or stand by the door to go out.

[@DerekCarrillo7541]

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[@WorkingWeightsLLC]

Dominance isn't displayed for rank purposes or hierarchy. It is used when resources are scarce. No bone, no dominance and aggression. Twelve bones and three puppies, no dominance and no aggression. There are several very simple basic exercises that can be done to alleviate this stress. Impulse control, a default leave it, back up, targeting. It's not very hard. Ears back isn't submission, it can simply be "oh hi, there you are your the fun guy"

[@valerie5749]

If wolves take down an elk, the alpha gets to eat first, then the others may eat. The others fight over it both because there is only so much, and they fight for respect in the hierarchy of the pack. Also yes. Ears back does actually show submission. Ears up and forward shows dominance. Ears up and outward and eyes focused shows alertness. Ears flat and pointing backwards shows fear. When they aren’t doing really anything specific and they are relaxed, the dog is happy and content. Body language is the primary method of communication for dog species. Vocalization is secondary.

[@kcsilverwing4263]

This is just teaching resource guarding. The puppy that has the bone and gets aggressive fears that the bone will get taken away so resorts to aggression. This was an unfair experiment, hungry puppies = one high value bone, of course the pups are going to resort to aggression, this does not prove the alpha role exists. Dogs do not see humans as dogs, the reason the girl could reach in a take the bone is because they do not fear her. If you try giving that insecure puppy that was being aggressive toward the other pups, a bone and taking it away multiple times, eventually that will lead to aggression toward you because the puppy will have learned that when come to take it, it goes away. You want to first prevent resource guarding by showing your dog you are not a threat and if you need to take something away the dog will either get something better in return or get it back.

[@uppercut4703]

KC Silverwing Alpha role exists buddy. May of not been the best demonstration but your argument of to why it doesnt exist isn't quite as strong in comparison

[@crysania]

THANK YOU for having some common sense. Teaching dogs to resource guard? Not cool at all. But not surprising coming from the likes of Leerburg which still teaches outdated nonsense and thinks this is a good idea.

[@scotiabushcraft9570]

It's a demonstration. Stop being stupid.

[@jedidiah5131]

New dog brought into the house....behavior; she puts her paw on the established male dogs back- trying to dominate him....he launches himself at her and snaps at her....she no longer puts her paw on his back....why because he is the pack leader.....She now approach's the other established female with the same behavior...same outcome....and to prove this when I open the door for them to go out they do so in the established pack order.....

[@supershenron9162]

Let me just say before I watch this that obedience training is useless if the dog doesn't see you as the leader or alpha. If the dog does see you as the alpha and it's just you obedience training is unnecessary because dogs always follow the alpha in a fammily the training is again establishing pack order. If you have kids you'll need to teach the kids far more than the dog and always keep in mind your dog will never listen or follow anyone to the extent they will for you if you are indeed the alpha the leader of the pack. My dog for instance. He's a real sweetheart but if he doesn't know you he's not gonna listen or follow anything you say or do. If I tell him to stay then I go into a store I know 100% when I walk out he will be exactly where I left him no leash further command or supervision required. He wont do that for anyone else except my sister and nephew. If he knows you and likes you he'll listen but only to the extent of being respectful ask him to move he moves if your at the table he won't approach unless you call him over. But he is gonna be staring at the table. After all it's good food and he's a dog lmao. And to end I'll state a main rule of my household. My dog is a real sweetheart and likes everyone. So if my dog doesn't like you...you'll immediately be expelled from my house and never be welcome back Because I trust his judge of character even more than i trust my own. And hes never let me down

[@yalman32]

Pack ownership is great for any dog owner, don't be a leader be an owner

[@valerie5749]

yalman32 It is usually best to be the “owner” on paper and to lead the pack through guidance. Leadership is not showing aggression, so it is safe and essential when owning dogs. The only thing necessary is giving firm reminders that misbehaving and disrespectful behavior is not wanted by humans, and providing positive reinforcement every time they do something that is acceptable or desirable and of a good behavior, all of which provides safety for both us and the dogs and creates that one big happy family. We show respect to dogs by letting them be dogs, so there’s no need to worry about it being a one way street. Hope this helps to clarify :)

[@WorkingWeightsLLC]

If you have a child under six or seven years old you should probably consider looking for a more docile litter to choose from than a line of working mals

[@widgerfarms4769]

...my beagle would NEVER act that way to her siblings, or any other dogs. But I know dogs that would. I don't think this is true for ALL puppies or dogs. She has been very submissive since the first day I got her.

[@mossypebbles]

it's weird that he sounds likr Chris Hansen

[@jordan3727]

total alpha male

[@yvonneduseund7911]

Oh my, what did I do wrong with my dogs... Having two, no resource aggression, they share their food, no problems with children.. No corrections or harsh methods of learning. What I see here is a perfect example of idiocy from the time when one thought the dogs actually were all about alpha being aggressive. An alpha is the negotiator, the diplomat in the pack. It is the dog that prevent such behaviour. Of course, if you encourage aggression and resource aggression from such an early stage you´ll have a massive problem on your hands. And ooh guess what, my dogs are 7 and 1.5 years old so I think I can with confidence say I know what I am talking about. Also, my friend with her 5 dogs, three males, two females, them being belgians, hollender and a Catahoula Hound. Oh yes also a BC, has never been enforcing such an old fashioned and directly wrong teaching. Well well, everyone to their own I guess.

[@yvonneduseund7911]

@Worldstar Hip-Hop Oh dear, such arrogance does not work on me. To have decades of experience does not make you an expert if you do not educate yourself on new scientific evidence, or are open for input. I genuinly enjoy some of his videos, however his theories are outdates, not to mention directly wrong according to modern science. I am not an expert, nor have I claimed such. So your comment about my "level of skill" is completely off the grid. To disagree and to argue against a belief is what brings dog training, and all of our society forward. But I understand it must be tough and hard to see someone be successful with high drive dogs without harsh methods if you are to intent on believing such methods must be applied. I enjoy a lovely training community, where most folks have BCs, Belgians, Dutch Shepherds and other high drive dogs. And guess what. Not one prong collar, chock collar... No behavioural issues either. Lord, we must all be from a fairy tale country :)

[@hueylouie5463]

Yvonne Duseund you make some interesting points. I’ve learned that if you’re a good dog owner and fulfill their needs then you don’t need any training. You sound like you give your dogs lots of exercise, socialisation and love. Fair play to you

[@lauragarzonchica2282]

Ugh. I wish the dog training world wasn't so damn polarized. Let's get it together people! Let's figure this out! Pack structure seems like a reasonable concept, but that doesn't make this a good demo. It's unfair to the pups and their future families (assuming that's the plan for them). Why force them to practice such serious unwanted behavior?!

[@gabemartin3099]

That isnt agression lol, thats pack behavior. None of the puppies where crying or in pain, all you see here is a couple kids bickering over the last slice of pizza, just arguing because they dont know any better. Probably gonna make it amplified when you put a bunch of puppies that dont know anything about pack hierarchy in a room with 1 bone, kind of wrong if you ask me.

[@sw1269]

I'm sorry, but this is an outdated theory that even the creator of the idea agrees it's incorrect. The study was on wolves put in unnatural situations that, consequently, acted in a way they would never in the wild. Even if it was an accurate depiction of their behaviour, dogs are not wolves and act as social opportunitists. You can see examples of this with groups of stray dogs Coming together for resources. This mentality with dog training is not the best.

[@elmanaro]

Watching this after I saw my 5 dogs fighting over the last avocado

[@jordan3727]

i found out that dogs attack cats because they think it another play toy it doesnt relise that its another aminal well i dont know if its true

[@sarahireland5140]

Dogs with high prey drive kill cats because they see the cat as prey.

[@effiewilson4418]

That's why the HUMANS should be the alphas!

[@MrSeif1993]

Dogs are not pack animals FYI

[@scotiabushcraft9570]

Well, that's funny, because I can go outside any night and hear coyotes out together. And feral dogs often form packs. Not to mention that any time a group of dogs get together they establish rank in a manner similar to these puppies. The whole 'no pack' thing is pseudoscience.

[@scotiabushcraft9570]

Bunch of nonsense that you think means something. Watch the video and then explain how pack drive which is clearly visible in 8-week-old pups is not proof of the genetic basis of pack structure/drive. What is it that you think this video shows? Just because a lot of the drive, pack drive, and dominance has been bred out of dogs and medicalised over the past 30 years does not mean it no longer exists. Stop spreading lies for an agenda. Repeating some expert in 'positive-only' training doesn't actually mean anything.

[@scotiabushcraft9570]

The PC dog trainers, medicalisation, and shift towards companion dogs occurred in the last 30 years or so. The domestication you are referring to involved dogs trained for war, hunting, and guardianship - all areas which require pack structure. Who are these researchers who say pack structure is false? What are their connections to the dog industry? And what is it that they say? I'm not going to take the time to go through internet theories which contradict what is common sense and what I see daily. And if these dogs are frustrated and hungry (no evidence to suggest this) then why is there a clear hierarchy if there is no pack structure? You've read all of the experts so it should be easy to explain this to me. What creates the pack structure if there is no pack structure?

[@scotiabushcraft9570]

So, you're saying that it is all just 'personality'. But that in itself does not suggest that their is no pack structure. A pack structure would still develop if it was only a matter of drive, as the dog with the most drive would become the dominant dog. You should watch the recent episode of "The Nature of Things". Frequent displays of aggression and submission in the wolves, and a female brought into the group became a second mother (distant relative) and cared for the pups to the extent that she died. Again, I am not saying that pack structure is the dominant aspect of their genetics, nor the basis of how we should train them; only that pack structure is obviously real and relevant given that it displays so readily even in young pups. I think you are trying to impose your own worldview onto canines, which is its own form of pack structure and dominance. You desperately want to see equality when it simply is not there.

[@scotiabushcraft9570]

I mean, you realise that perfect equality would still be a form of pack structure, right?

[@loribott6119]

Rolling my eyes at all this. If I hadn't eaten and you threw 1 plate a food in a room of hungry people, I would be considered dominant also. I think the word dominant and pack mentality are over used.

[@SabelKat]

This is just very poor puppy management... triggering food guarding aggression on purpose and setting a pup up to attack its litter mates over food. Nothing to do with "establishing who is alpha" (unscientific old mythology anyway), but simply insecurity, frustration and food guarding in an insecure pup of a very high-drive, high-aggression breed, here poorly managed

[@rasta1017]

Anna Dane i bet u also think that there is more than 2 genders since u don't know how basic bio works

[@jedidiah5131]

New dog brought into the house....behavior; she puts her paw on the established male dogs back- trying to dominate him....he launches himself at her and snaps at her....she no longer puts her paw on his back....why because he is the pack leader.....She now approach's the other established female with the same behavior...same outcome....and to prove this when I open the door for them to go out they do so in the established pack order.....

[@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786]

EDC Denveys 👏🏼

[@gibsonbass6900]

14 year old video.. all those puppies are dead now

[@bblack340]

Very outdated

[@saarlooswolfhund6237]

Aha. Puppies are hunting a cat and its "pack drive". If I listen bullshit of "pack drive" and the "packleader" I switch off, because there is obviously a huge lack of knowledge .

[@xGHOSTHAWKx]

This is so outdated. Dogs are not pack animals. Social animals with a hierarchy yes! Not pack animals.

[@northernlight8857]

Hmm..this is a very biased and unscientific video. Your video goes against the scientific opinion and studies. Doesnt make you nessesarily wrong but its conserning.