The New LattePanda MU Is The Smallest Windows 11 Mini PC! Hands On First Look

[@ItsArman288]

It always amuses me how these small hardware are capable of running games. I remember back in the day we needed a chunky pc to do even the simplest tasks.

[@AndrewTSq]

I played need for speed on my mini laptop in 2007 :)

[@MrInuhanyou123]

​@@AndrewTSqcongrats? Not in the 90s lmao

[@AndrewTSq]

@@MrInuhanyou123 no in the 90ies I had a powerbook 540c. It could play games but since it had a 040 cpu it was not 3d games.

[@turaven32space]

Hope the gpu's reach that small factor as this cpu n100

[@CopeAndSeeth]

​@@MrInuhanyou123anime pfp, concern disgarded 🗿

[@rydhwan]

This pc is smaller than a coin, let's see how it runs Cyberpunk 2077

[@sikoboi7667]

Lol

[@Cinoism]

Maybe in 2077.

[@Debanjanepiskey]

Probably in a couple decades.

[@KesterKurtal]

I have a notebook pc with the n200, 16gb ram, Cyberpunk, on very low, 1366 x 768 screen on it. FSR or XSEE I got about 15 fps.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

👏

[@rcvillapando]

4:00 The PCB’s size compared to the GPU is hilarious. 🤣

[@yri065]

Let's connect a computer to the video card

[@CoqueTornadoDirectos]

@@yri065 hahaha totally!

[@MorganEdgy]

So we finally got to the point where we need to insert the computer into the GPU instead of the other way around.

[@DizzyDJW]

I remember when I bought the NEXT C.H.I.P. micro computer that ran linus, I still have it, and it still boots up to this day. I can't wait until we have powerful gaming computers the size of our phones or smaller that we can plug into a display and just go. Would be sick if we could someday just whip out a micro computer, a micro projector, portable keyboard and mouse, and just play from anywhere with a total size of all components being able to fit into a fanny pack or smaller.

[@Sonic6293]

We're partway there with ARM, you can make it happen with a lot of Android phones that have display out.

[@DizzyDJW]

@@Sonic6293 Yes but I mean 4080 or 4090 capable gaming computers, not just mobile games made for smartphones. It's happening very quickly, chips are still getting smaller, Moore's Law has yet to be reached. Thermals are getting better too.

[@zzavatski]

Great way to relive the experience of using 10 years old computer ;-)

[@charlesjmouse]

Just checked and pleasantly surprised by the price - $190:00 with mini-carrier on sale at time of posting. Still not as good a deal as simply picking up an old mini-pc + a mPCI->PCIe adaptor if really required, but usually boards like this make no financial sense at all. Well done Lattepanda!

[@RuschGaming]

Pretty impressive how small thing get yet with the GPU’s they keep on growing. Also I would love to see this as a server setup🤔 I wonder how that would go.

[@inkysteve]

That CPU-Z score was about the same as my old i5 2500k at stock speed.

[@kurtwinter4422]

And it supports new instructions. Between the N100 and 7840, why do we need desktops?

[@SaccoBelmonte]

I would love to see you put together a whole system (with touchscreen) in a cigar box. That's something I always wanted to do to create my own DIY audio DSP for guitars/keyboard/mic. Just for the fun of it using SynthEdit as audio engine.

[@H3xx99]

This thing is just begging to be turned into a Cyberdeck.

[@avalonhaze]

Just buy one of the million netbooks running this CPU. Unless you're particularly bothered about designing everything, what is the point? You'll spend a ton of money to get a subpar experience.

[@H3xx99]

@@avalonhaze I don't think you understand the point of building cyberdecks.

[@avalonhaze]

Go on then explain it too me

[@ranjitmandal1612]

👏

[@art3misrrs]

@@avalonhaze its all about the experience of building it making it work making your own style being proud of your ingenuity having something that isnt in the norm that isnt just a laptop its something you spent time on and use passion to make thats what its all about its the passion for pc building and making such a tiny little thing run with style

[@Arshoon]

If you have to attach it to a larger board to be able to use it as a mini PC than its not as small as you make it out to be. The Raspberry Pi still wins as it has all the I/O on the board.

[@trelauney]

Have you heard of the Compute Module? Version 3, Version 4, I don't think it matters in this case

[@Flyingboots1]

I like my BOSGAMING 68H that runs actual Windows and not SHIT LINUX!

[@JustSomePunkYo]

@@Flyingboots1 okay.

[@Goldwelp]

Its nice to see they didn't close the PCIe slot. The kits on their site didn't either. They've always seemed like a forward thinking company. Price for the kits is extremely reasonable too. Full kit with upgrades/adds is $279USD at time of post.

[@bertvantol9669]

Seeing this SBC's, my question is always, "is there a Case for this ??"

[@trelauney]

There's an itx sized carrier board, so yes Is it what you actually want? Probably not. "3.5-inch embedded motherboard case" for the lite does not bring up much at the moment

[@vigigamehacker123]

just 3D print one

[@spusuf]

For a PC gamer? No. If you were already considering a SBC for embedded applications like computer vision, machine learning, in car infotainment/driving assists, or anything that needs processing then yes absolutely.

[@rustkitty]

I'd love to see more system-on-modules because these can be so much better customized with carrier boards than what SBCs and mini PCs offer, but hopefully something more on the stronger side. It looks like you could fit your average 4x4" mini PC's guts on one of these modules (without the peripherals and controller chips that would go on the carrier board) and we have seen much stronger offerings on that side so here is hoping..

[@male_npc]

I'd actually like to see this paired with one of the lower powered Sparkle Intel Arc cards. How tall is that board with the cooler installed?

[@Davidlomrk]

Good Video...this is why he is one of my favorite KZbinrs 😀

[@joemichaels6735]

More power,Scotty!

[@zelest]

This invokes the feeling of those old FMV games...

[@jasonhemphill8525]

I was waiting for you to cover the newest Lattepandas

[@Siskiyous6]

I love small form factor computes, I use them n Ham radio

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Looks amazing 🤩

[@BertieJasokie]

This is the only sponsored link I will ever click on.

[@chilledbroccoli899]

i bit expensive since i can buy a n100 board with full support with less than 100

[@Backstage_Politician]

My chocolate milk came out of my nose at 3:57

[@numberoneappgames]

This is great for hobbyists. But for a regular person it is more just a thing to look at for fun.

[@N1NJ0J]

The Latte Panda Mew

[@srvuk]

Rather misleading as you need the carrier board in order to use the carrier module. Whilst adding an external GPU, it certainly allows the N100 to go to new places. But one you add up all the cost of doing this, I wonder how many might think of getting a powerful mini PC instead. It seems to not know exactly what it is and who it is aimed at, even though the concept could have merit.

[@trelauney]

Yes. That is the point of carrier boards. To be customized to a specific purpose. This market already exists- and is oart of the reason there was a raspberry pi shortage for years. Industry was buying the relevant chips on compute modules in bulk. The carrier board shown here is for hardware and software developers - built to be useful to as many as possible.

[@mertallix]

These are getting smaller and smaller, I love it (except when you you add a graphics card but still very small)

[@plumcrazyanime1]

😮 if you're going to use a distro on this thing I would like to see gentoo Linux. I would like to see how it handles heavy source code compilation for a custom system.

[@WayStedYou]

If they raised where the board sits a few mm you could get a full-size m.2 drive under the latte landa board itself

[@MiguelMenendezlife]

This is so small, would be awesome if clockwork makes an adapter for the uConsole! Carbon Computers has some variants but not the same. They said they are working on a uConsole variant, possibly x86 🤯.

[@havocthehobbit]

in the early 1990's 10 of these would probably be enough to power servers for everyone that had access to the entire global internet . we have come a long way. In 30 years , rings or ear rings will probably be this powerful

[@princez.2648]

Okay this is sweet, if there’s a case for this I totally want one

[@DyesubDave]

I find these technologies fascinating however what's the advantage over just purchasing an N100 mini-pc? They're the same price if not cheaper, generally have upgradable ram, come with an SSD and a case. Also does this unit or the board have Bluetooth? The use of multiple units makes a lot of sense for certain use scenarios but I don't see the benefits of a single board.

[@jamv2122]

1. uses ddr5 single channel which is faster then the ddr4. that alone is quite a big difference. the carrier board even the light one you can get a Bluetooth/wifi module that fits 1 of the m.2 slots and the other is used for storage. this is also wired with 3.0 x4 which is completely different from asrocks own n100 which is wired at only x2 which makes it pointless for any decent gpu as youd run out of bandwidth first. the whole point is it being very versatile. the issue with mini pcs is once the hardware is irrelevant you cant do much with it with this it can be used for tablets/phones etc providing you get a pcb made for it which is dfrobot offers more or less a way to do that.

[@snowballak]

I would really like to see one of these with the i3 n305, nice review.

[@jamv2122]

its quite impressive that it gets that high in spiderman i think its a combination of the single channel ram and the bus width of the card being only x4 its a shame that it doesnt have a way to tie duel channel.

[@jwoody8815]

Pretty cool, but I dislike designs without upgradeable RAM. 8GB just dosent cut It these days for most users. Especially in Windows.

[@ultimatums1]

so connecting the GPU through an eGPU enclosure and using the M.2 slot won't make a difference by providing the GPU it's own dedicated power?

[@chromerims]

Great video 👍 The m.2 slot labelling printed on the carrier board just says E-Key and M-Key. Whereas mobos and sbcs might otherwise label the slots' functions -- wifi-bt and nvme, which relate to the CPU and rom firmware. I'd be curious to pop the hood on lattepanda MU's uefi-bios and poke around about the m.2 slots' elected capabilities (e.g. CNVi manual off) among other things. Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.

[@oliveSmoothies]

cant wait for tiny handhelds with a board like this

[@poppycortez6802]

But can it run Crysis?

[@Doyle69]

Scores higher on Geekbench than my 2012 Macbook Pro 🙃 We have come a long way

[@cloudycolacorp]

We better have in twelve years lol

[@Doyle69]

@@cloudycolacorp Crazy huh, been watching a video on the 8840U ONEXPLAYER 2 Pro and that destroys my Macbook Pro 2012 😆

[@RedHorseAdventures]

Sorry, for $190, I’ll consider other options.

[@maniac_magee3830]

This plus the n3rdware single slot cooler coming to the rtx 4000 sff ada generation could be an interesting setup

[@REGameFly]

Would be cool to have a case for it and set it as a emulation box

[@plumcrazyanime1]

I would like to see the recalbox tested on this and some Dreamcast simulation and Playstation 3 emulation

[@denvera1g1]

I'd love one of the 8 core atom variants (i3-N305) along with 24GB of RAM Imagine a 2U server with 24 wide and 8 deep rows of these. Massive compute cluster, 1500+ cores, and 4TB+ RAM Getting them all to communicate would be an issue though, would almost have to be more of a rental compute node like hetzner does rather than a compute cluster

[@GENERALCHAOS13]

Intel N Series CPUs are definitely Intel Celeron so it is low end CPU be nice to see a Ryzen variant from Panda At this footprint

[@asr-studio1930]

how about instead of the gpu you use more storage with the slot and make a media vault aut of it?

[@joelcohen4353]

Is this the end of Mini-ITX?

[@markwijkhuizen9207]

What kind of power supply did you use? apparently you need a 12V DC input, but the provided adapter is 19V

[@argender]

The carrier board you used to attach the external gpu can be used for any PC?

[@jobearesto9746]

from the size I am thinking possible handheld project

[@bogey4741]

I have one of these, perfect as a small dev pc for Linux. Waiting for Ubuntu 24.03 to finalize. Was wondering if you could show what the absolute fastest graphics card you could add that wouldn’t require external power? That’s the one I want. Thx

[@sundjinnkari]

Please try the following: Mint Kali Pop Slackware Manjaro

[@tonibahloni920]

What about turning it into an old dos gaming setup?

[@WolfTheDog]

The 3050 isn't a bad GPU in all honestly. Good mid-range GPU, or amazing low-end, depending on expectations. With a Ryzen 7, fallout 4 runs 80+ on a 3050

[@jon880215]

Try Bazzite and Nobara Test the TDP control on both distros

[@RenatoLevanteze]

I wish someone did a carrier board shaped like a Wii main board so could do an easy replacement with the Wii case

[@gardeffroi9099]

Hello, I play a lot of World of Warcraft and wonder if it is possible to run it at full graphics by adding a graphics card like in the video?

[@JazzTechie]

I may end up buying one

[@pompshuffle562]

I wonder if this is finially a way to use x86 on the mnt reform

[@joman104]

For fallout 4, theres a mod that compressese the textures, would probably fix the crashes

[@eveypea]

I'd love to see you run linux and that modded cooler Sparkle Arc GPU. No specific version of Linux as I'm sure you'd know what works best with the Arc

[@WafflePanB]

I would love to see some benchmarks in fedora personally

[@tommythetoe]

Are you sure its getting 4800MHz on ram. The N100 has single channel ram. I would think you would get 2400MHz and 2400 Mega transfers. Not sure with DDR5 though maybe its different from DDR4. Good video thank you.

[@Grimmwoldds]

LPDDR5 goes at 4800, yes. Feel free to lookup the n100 on Intel Ark. Then look at say, the intel w-2135. Note that there is a max memory channel and max memory bandwidth figure. Multiple channels affects max memory bandwidth, not the individual memory channel capability.

[@nitram1666]

A really impressive little board, even compared to the LattePanda 3 Delta.

[@MithermanTech]

I'm interested in seeing how much the lower Radeon driver overhead would ease the CPU bottleneck and how the N100 pairs with something like the RX 6400. But in that sub-$150 price range I can't help but think of the Arc A380/A310 and wonder whether one could have a tiny all-Intel build

[@jamv2122]

the issue with a380 and a310 is if the bios supports the Resizable Bar or Smart Access Memory (SAM)

[@MithermanTech]

@@jamv2122 The N100 should support resizable BAR, just not sure if the LattePanda BIOS does

[@jamv2122]

@@MithermanTech it doesnt support it as of yet the bios for this board has some features coming soon apparently

[@yri065]

9:27 Now let's put a computer into the video card

[@ShadowFandub]

This board with a handheld carrier board its the perfect x86 indie 2d pixel games machine. Stardew valley Cyberpunk bartender simulator Cryp of the necromancer HellTaker hollow knight Indivisible Jump king Magicat Moonligther LOOOOOONG ETC.

[@valentine_puppy]

I always find it annoying how this guy finds cool things that are extremely expensive and acts like he went down to the corner convenience store just happen to pick up something on the way home. Like, eh he threw it in while getting bread and some milk.

[@pocetbox]

That s his charm

[@anthonyojo1985]

it would be perfect for a project i have in mind but with a J4125..... also what if i just wanted a really really really really small carrier board with power and 1x HDMI out and 1x HDMI in and 2.5 GBe?

[@andymoran8624]

just run a refurb tiny dell, these things need to drop in price

[@skorpysk]

I want something like this But have it be Not micro size, Support full PCIe x16 Take in regular power, at like idk even 75W and use a Proper Mobile chip, like the 8945HS

[@blackstonesoftware7074]

How to get the GPU to work?? I am using a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 and a 20v 330w power supply on this lattepanda my and it won't recognize the graphics card

[@mikefulli]

You have to use 12V power supply. I suspect they pass 12V power directly from the supply system and 5V via board power management.

[@DG-jq2jq]

7900 gre! =) wander how bad will it be. it could be pretty good candidate for home nas station

[@nursgrata2865]

Vasya what's first game's name?

[@barbarbar338]

can you try diablo 4 in future tests?

[@M.N.9]

Can you check it with Linux Mint?

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

I wish this latte panda came with AMD processor 6900hx or 7840 Apu processor, for using an iGPU

[@sageosaka]

thats still impressive considering the wattage

[@TheVincentKyle]

It makes me think I could maybe find a way (and the required connectors) to shove one of these inside a hollowed-out Acer Aspire ONE ZG5.

[@zenmaster24]

what form factor is this? what case would you use?

[@TrusteftTech]

It needs more RAM. I would love to test it a lot, but with just 8GB of RAM and the lack of money, this is not going to happen. Still, very interesting product and I hope it does well.

[@syn010110]

this looks good for pfsense

[@Akakakakak353]

More power full version of this??

[@braindead2813]

I am over it. I do not care about the N100 anymore. lol. When are we goanna get new LP chips? When is the Snapdragon X elite coming out?

[@ebayseller6040]

can you install windows on the onboard storage?

[@ferrellsl]

Sheesh, considering the total cost for this thing you're better off just buying one of the many N100 mini PCs.

[@nightwing8666]

thats not the point tho. this has got GPIO and you can get other carrier boards to connect to. its not meant to be a mini pc. its meant to be a sbc..

[@ferrellsl]

@@nightwing8666 Who cares when it has USB ports? I can do just as much with USB ports and a breakout cable as I can do with GPIO.

[@njm12]

I'd like to see it paired with an ARC A380 or A580

[@bgates275]

Seems like a bit of a tradeoff between size and expandability.

[@monkev1199]

I mean it very much is. Although for it's size x9 PCIe is impressive (the Orin Nano is the second closet thing at x7)

[@CC-bm3wb]

Can you hook it up to a NVIDIA 4090 ti founder edition

[@beez1598]

Is pin compatable with the cm3?

[@df1299]

How about trying out ChromeOS Flex?

[@initialds4903]

I wonder if there's someone making a laptop with onboard desktop gpu That would be nice to see

[@WillbeMelek]

Would be cool to put this in the Orange Pi uConsole.

[@wilsonicsnet]

Batocera Linux for the retro gamers would be nice to see

[@TVCHLORD]

Put a 8840u in it

[@sreevarshonb5471]

Is there any proper mini pc with a GPU slot ? Like I would love to have a Ryzen 7 5800H mini pc with my rtx GPU bcz I really need portability