Eternity - Understanding Eternity from God's perspective

[@tylerbrown2772]

The thought of eternity still scares the heck out of me both ways either not existing forever or living forever like either way there’s no end where trapped it scares the heck out of me

[@ryanwilliams1800]

it scares me too. i think just dying and that's the end is probably the better option, we won't know about it and it will be like before we were born. dying and ending up in some place where you just exist forever and it never ends is like some kind of horrifically cruel and extreme punishment. even if heaven is as great as people claim it to be i am trying to imagine how great it would feel after trillions of years.

[@aether0278]

@@ryanwilliams1800 but there is no time in heaven. So you wont really feel like anything is going or having had happened, its just the overpowering presence of god. Why worry about eternity when you're promised to rule over it.

[@JC-sb4gg]

@@aether0278 thank you 😇

[@AnsweringMusic]

@@ryanwilliams1800 right!

[@nathanaelashnonmusic2615]

Eternal peace that cannot be understood sounds pretty good to me. If you forgot all your pain, if you forgot all your stress and just let go, how would you feel? I wouldn't be scared. I would feel cradled.

[@froyaw7239]

God bless you for this message. Isaiah 55:8-9 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

[@patrolman602]

God knows the future because He decreed it.

[@TommyTomTompkins]

God already know what time it is

[@bobcaldwellrocks]

I wish it were longer thanks for sharing 🙂

[@georgebradley4583]

Eternity or the video?

[@bobcaldwellrocks]

The video

[@mountainman78629]

I study the Bible a lot and write lots of notes. I was writing down my thoughts on eternity and I defined it as time without end but I decided to check a Revell Bible dictionary and it defined it as “eternity is that which is outside of and not limited by time. It has no beginning and no end.” I think about it a lot but obviously never experienced it and how do you write about something you’ve never experienced? We are in time and know nothing but time. We have a birthday, we have clocks and calendars and even yesterday and tomorrow are references to time. I think of eternity, for me, as a constant now. I imagine a clock that never changes. My problem is if we do something then do something else there has to be a before and after even if there is no yesterday or today, which are references to time. I was talking to a guy on KZbin recently who was not a Christian and said he was ok with going to hell. I said you haven’t thought very much about hell or eternity to say something like that. You’re not in hell 30 days then get out. It’s not like a prison. We’ve all been burned and we all know the intense pain involved. I imagine having my hand placed on a hot stove and me not able to remove but the nerves are never damaged and the hand is not destroyed. Imagine being in a burning liquid up to the neck. That’s what a lake of fire makes me think of. Now whether the lake of fire is literal or maybe worse, I don’t know but in my mind it means intense pain forever. As a Christian I won’t endure that but the lost will. They think hell is a place where they will be with their friends. It’s not a jail cell. It’s a place of punishment for rejecting Jesus and it never ends. There won’t be anything but screaming. There’s some debate over is hell literal or is it so bad we can’t imagine so a lake of fire is just a way of describing something we can’t fathom in a way we can relate to. Me personally, I think it’s a real lake of fire. Studying fire recently, I call it the big 3, but when fire is mentioned in the first 5 books of Gods word it has to do with Gods presence, like the burning bush or mount Sinai or the tabernacle, Gods wrath or sacrifices. Our God is a consuming fire and in psalms David said if I ascend into heaven you are there. If I descend into hell, you are there. A lake of fire would be enduring Gods wrath in His presence but not a benevolent presence. Maybe I’m right maybe I’m wrong but like I said, I’m thinking about something I have not experienced. There is a heaven and a hell and they are forever

[@Awakeningspirit20]

God is much like a great fire, you will either be sanctified in and rest in such a fire or it will harm you. This is similar to what Orthodox Christianity believes. But why do you not think what we are in right now is a part of eternity? There is no box, God is omnipotent and what we live right now is part of eternity. It's correct to assume we can't imagine eternity, but we are creatures of spirit and so when we think in spirit, we become more trusting of and aligned with the nature of eternity and of God. When in spirit you are with the frequency of God which is the one constant thing in the universe, thus you also touch all past, present, and future. You, once there with God, will be able to reach out to yourself and view yourself during your lifetime in this 'box' just like God does.

[@mountainman78629]

@@Awakeningspirit20 is that stated in the Bible or something you believe? We are eternal in the sense we will never cease to exist even though we haven’t always existed. I realize regularly we aren’t in eternity because of my clock which has the time as well as a date on it. I know there’s a yesterday and a tomorrow and there won’t be in eternity. Every day that goes by I’m another day older. All of those are references to time. Right now, since I’ve never experienced eternity it just seems like a concept and I try to understand it. It’s like trying to imagine what dinosaurs taste like. We can speculate but no one alive knows because no one alive has ever eaten one

[@dad_son2166]

One guy said the correct definition for eternity is not for ever and for ever but rather just means to be out of time, This also means no end in eternity. The way I see eternity is you just exist and the concept of time won’t even cross your mind. Now if we apply heaven aka being in Gods presence + eternity I don’t know what can be better. Eternity might se scary cause your let’s say trapped in it either u cease to exist forever or live forever your trapper but when u apply God to it for me it makes me want to get to heaven faster so I don’t have any pain stress etc just be happy and enjoy and do what I ever wanted to do men heaven/ new earth will just be amazing. Help us lord live for Jesus cause the rewards will w get will be their forever

[@mountainman78629]

@@dad_son2166 I was watching videos about eternity not long ago, just to see if anyone said anything that made any sense and in one of the videos there was some lady who said imagine a box. That box represents the beginning and end of time. She said God is outside the box and sees everything, past, present and future as a constant now. He gets involved in our lives in time but He’s still outside of time. She asked, does God know the future? Her answer was no. There is no future to God. Once again, my finite mind trying to comprehend the infinite.

[@sindanonegongo1199]

I wavnt to reference a youtube video of one guy's testimony of hell. I'm not telling you to believe or not but I would like you to listen to the guy's testimony.

[@Awakeningspirit20]

God is omnipotent, He is both within and without, inside and outside our dimensions, that 'box'. It is foolish to think of Him as only outside our grasp when He's very much in it yet beyond it.

[@HouseofDavidonscene]

Another fun fact to consider on eternity...before creating the angels, did God ever speak? I don't think so, which means that from eternity ago until the creation of the world, God meditated on the dynamics of the what, when, why, how and where...imagine the profundity of it...

[@2380knight]

Wether right or wrong, this is an intelligent comment.

[@dexterjones9362]

God is self existing. We cannot even begin to fathom God.

[@InfinitelyManic]

Unfortunately, Psa 41:13 appears to be somewhat ambiguous or equivocal about 'eternity' given the underlying word, which may be more literally rendered "from age to age", which doesn't make an infinite past or beginningless very clear. So, such the notion of God's beginningless may actually rest more on the extra-biblical cosmological arguments & notions of infinite regression. Do we linguistic consensus on עוֹלָם (o.lam); which often conveys a long duration, but not quite clearly the notion of beginningless, yes?

[@kridler112]

But what is the experience like for those that go into the lake of fire? Were they predestined for it? Or did their free will supersede God’s? And do they experience it in a timely way?

[@marktaylor9156]

Judgement can occure in life, but if you're alive, you can still ask forgiveness. God doesn't wish you to die, he wishes that you should turn from your evil ways and repent..God bless you...

[@kridler112]

@@marktaylor9156 so the body carries more weight than the spirit? I’m trying to understand what about the body dying is so significant to God and his judgment…

[@marktaylor9156]

That's a great question, and it demands an answer, I was told by Satan himself verbatim, regarding those who are in hell "they die, but they wake up three secods later"...

[@kridler112]

@@marktaylor9156 so does man’s free will to die supersede God’s will to save? I’m just not understanding what seems to be taught in the Christian church… basically that God loses much of his creation because “Satan’s” hold is too strong on man… It seems so contradictory and invalidating of God’s supposed omnipotence and supremacy… It makes it seem like either God’s not omnipotent and supreme or the church misunderstands and teaches a very stupid and unenlightened perspective… No disrespect to you or your beliefs… I’m trying to be candid

[@marktaylor9156]

​​H​@@kridler112I'm not sure I fully understand your question, free will is free will. You are free to do whatever (not always absent of judgment) including committing suicide. But salvation comes following death as does the judgement. Free will is absolute (with the exception of "divine" intervention) as is judgment. God's power and his "will" are absolute, nothing supercedes it.

[@rigaudmoise3679]

CAN YOU TELL ME , WHAY IS ETERNITY IN ONE WORD ?

[@billybob-ro6qf]

FOREVER!

[@froyaw7239]

Ephesians 1:4 Even as he chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him. In love. Psalm 5:4 For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, Nor shall evil dwell with You. The fact you came across this and commented on this shows God wants you to know you were chosen by Him.

[@kunntakentay]

With this being the case, how is it that God is long suffering?

[@sindanonegongo1199]

For us to understand

[@billybob-ro6qf]

Longsuffering to us in our time not His.

[@HouseofDavidonscene]

It's predestination by way of free will..

[@marktaylor9156]

I was informed by a divine source that an eternity is 220 trillion years, and that is a fact..if you're thinking that doesn't sound like a long time, well consider 220 trillion "minutes" is equal to 418,000,000 years...

[@watuhdude]

“eternity” isn’t limited to a number. Even though 220 trillion years sounds like a lot, it’s nothing compared to infinity.

[@marktaylor9156]

@@watuhdude An eternity is a length of time, infinity is forever. I was told by my Lord Jesus Christ that an eternity is 220 trillion years, and that's the truth as God is my witness..

[@marktaylor9156]

I've met Jesus, he looked me directly in the eye's and told me. If you disagree, take it up with Jesus, but you won't win the debate...I've also met the Devil, and I've seen God, not directly, he was in a cloud...but I know that was God..

[@billybob-ro6qf]

@@marktaylor9156 Jesus said we shall have LIFE WITHOUT END! Doesn't get any clearer than that.

[@billybob-ro6qf]

@@marktaylor9156 God's word never changes. Eternal means FOREVER, so that makes you a LIAR NOW REPENT & LIVE RIGHT!!!

[@SabbathSOG]

Incredible. Fascinating.

[@Lilithsburden]

❤

[@patrolman602]

man has a "free" will in the sense that we have a faculty of choosing that remains after the Fall. Every person has the ability to choose what they want. We choose freely every day. The Bible says that we are dead in trespasses and sin. We choose according to the desires of our heart that are only evil continually. The Fall of man was radical. The Will of man is not indifferent. It has a bias, an inclination, a bent towards sin. Everyone has the free will to make a decision for God, however it is God who changes our heart, regenerates us, makes us born again, so that we will choose Him. The unregenerated man has a sin nature that makes choices, and those choices are aligned with their nature. Before the Fall we had a free will and we also had liberty (the power to do the right in things of God). After the Fall, we retained the free will (the faculty of choosing), what we lost was our liberty. And only the Holy Spirit can restore the liberty that we lost at the Fall. The Bible teaches that we are fallen creatures who still choose and make decisions, but we make them in the context of our prison of sin. And the only way we can get out of that prison is if God sets us free.

[@Burt-j8c]

Rev 8:1 and when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. One might consider this to be in direct conflict to your teaching of God existing outside of time. Because of this and other conflicts I believe there are actually 4 heavens. The Fourth heaven would be God's place completely outside of time where no one exists that has not gone through the process of obtaining a glorified body. (No man can see God's face and live, except perhaps with a glorified spiritual body.) I died for a period of 15 to 20 minutes. I had a vivid vision of leaving the Earth flying through space watching it all flash by. Then I woke up in ER and realized I could not remember a bad event of my entire life. Just in that short time God was already cleaning me up to be ready for his presence. I guess I wasn't quite ready yet...

[@mziad9405]

18:110) Say, “I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone.”

[@alexmussi]

The only problem with that is the book of Romans when God says he chose Jacob, even before he was born, so that his actions does not matter in God’s choosing…

[@gracemarcantel9052]

Thanks, now I'm even more confused...lol

[@billybob-ro6qf]

Pray & seek God. God is NOT the author of confusion.

[@mziad9405]

213) Mankind was [of] one religion [before their deviation]; then Allah sent the prophets as bringers of good tidings and warners and sent down with them the Scripture in truth to judge between the people concerning that in which they differed. And none differed over the Scripture except those who were given it - after the clear proofs came to them - out of jealous animosity among themselves. And Allah guided those who believed to the truth concerning that over which they had differed, by His permission. And Allah guides whom He wills to a straight path.

[@aether0278]

Without using the Quran, what can you say to convince me.

[@tonycosta8137]

No allaha, Only 1 true God, no muslim belief

[@a.psquickview2071]

Makes absolutely no sense.

[@thomasn3882]

Paganism mixed with Calvinist heresy. Eleven dimensions? Lol....