IQ2 Racism Debate: Stan Grant

[@lauriemartin490]

Sitting here in tears in Arizona, thinking you could replace "the Australian dream" with "the American dream" and this speech would be every bit as true. I hope and pray that both of our countries will finally find the will to face the sins of our past, and acknowledge how it perpetuates the racism that is destroying our present. What a painful and beautiful speech, Mr. Grant. Thank you.

[@lanae3109]

EVERY BIT AS TRUE...no editing or change required.

[@serenaclampert4797]

American Indians killed by Afro Americans

[@user-fb1vm4uo1u]

Its not white peoples fault that the aborigines have an IQ problem lending them to higher crime rates. But lets all be racist and blame white people for their IQ.

[@bobgteen6496]

Soo. Indians didn't treat each other the same way. Shut up

[@julz63]

Spoken with such passion. Your message needs to be heard all over this beautiful land of ours, so that ALL Australians can stand united and proud. Thank you Stan Grant for striving for our fellow Australians to see the bigger picture. You put it into words, once heard can not be ignored.

[@billywillgo69]

+mick TASMANIA Mick Just in case you're wondering why no one here is engaging you in a back and forth is because you're obviously an ignorant ass. Just though you should know.

[@MrMaccamax]

+Julie Spratt . Where did the 3 Stan Grant kids that he dumped for some office crumpet , finish up . That would make better reading

[@lisajackson3917]

+max w. They ended up with educations, jobs and are going great. Why the interest Max?

[@T1Brit]

+Julie Spratt OH ! we are so evil ! Punish us ! OOHH yes ! That's so good !

[@GermGrub]

great speech. unfortunately so true and unfortunately purposely avoided and ignored

[@GermGrub]

yeah exactly Mick. and they call it the lucky country hey. cheers

[@ThanatosReturns]

+mick TASMANIA Must of been tough for your Grandmother being caught in the middle between two cultures. Each culture hating the other culture because of their war-like history (the colonialists taking country, and the traditional owners fighting back). Do you know what traditional tribe that blood came from or was that information lost like so much other knowledge?

[@MrMaccamax]

+GermGrub .. Wake up .. He has made sure the Aboriginal gaol population doubles as a result of his hate campaign.

[@ThanatosReturns]

+max w. To quote a failed political puppet "Please explain". The statistics already speak for themselves. Even though indigenous are only a few percent of the population, they are MORE likely to end up in the "correctional" system, even higher if you are indigenous youth. How has he (Stan) made it ANY worse? And why Max, does your profile look hollow, like it is only used to shoot comments from behind a screen?

[@danielzafir7451]

*edited* +max w. This comment is very misguided.

[@profdavidclark]

A very powerful talk. Deeply moving and so true. Thank you, Stan.

[@ThanatosReturns]

+mick TASMANIA What's not true? The bit about white Australian guilt coming through in denial? You're proving the point don't you think?

[@jimfredmaxken]

+mick TASMANIA Hey Mick. Do you live in a hole and eat 2 minute noodles? Why so dumb Mick?

[@T1Brit]

+David Clark Let us all whip ourselves upon our backs untill we are pure ! And record it on our i-phones and then go out for frappuchino !

[@T1Brit]

Egalitarian Alliance I love free women. You can keep your servile cows. Give me a sassy babe any day.

[@egalitarianalliance9710]

T1Brit Feminist women are not free. Far from it. Labels do not make you free. I thought you were enlightened but was clearly mistaken. I pity you and your delusions.

[@matthewm4651]

Passionate eloquence from Stan. History defines who we are and how we see things. We can do better.

[@BillSaltbush]

+mick TASMANIA You may not have Mick, but you sure as hell could DO BETTER than what you've done on here. Instead of being the troll, why don't you have something constructive to say?

[@cricktail3869]

Except publicly display your own terrible ignorance & bitterness

[@MrMaccamax]

+Cricktail Mnxmoosi . Stan left his 3 aboriginal kids and the wife to go "skirt lifting around the Office " . Lets talk about that.

[@ianmcleod3631]

+max w. But it was such an emotional speech ...not bad for a sell out actor

[@T1Brit]

+Matthew M OH ! we are so evil ! Punish us ! OOHH yes ! That's so good !

[@francesletters9595]

Australians all, let us rejoice that we have a wise fellow-countryman who speaks the truth with such passion and eloquence. He gives us hope .. if we listen.

[@cricktail3869]

Yes. He's spoken out frequently. He has been a regular on NITV for YEARS. He has always been vocal on these issues. Just because it's the first time YOU have paid attention doesn't mean there's an alterior motive. He is speaking of the same issues & telling the same stories he always has, the only criticism possible here is that it took you decades to finally notice what he was saying.

[@samfrancis1614]

+Frances Letters thank goodness that baby boomers like yourself are approaching the twilight years of their lives. You baby boomers have destroyed Australia and the West in general with your "white guilt" and pathological altruism. Just go, so that we millennials can rebuild the civilization that our ancestors left to you but which you squandered and destroyed.

[@00Mindi00]

+Sam Francis "we millennials can rebuild civilisation"??? Your generation is the most lacking in morals, nihilistic, uncultured and ungrounded yet to surface. I worry for how much mindless destruction your generation is going to cause in a few decades time.

[@cricktail3869]

+Sam Francis LOL this country was managed for tens of thousands of years using traditional farming practices. There were sustainable industries supporting permanent villages & international trade routes - a history that is of course reflected in the earliest colonial documents, but until recently NEVER discussed in books on Australian history. Compared to the length of time Aboriginal people had already been SUCCESSFULLY managing Australia as a giant communal farming estate, your "developed" culture has been here for just a blink of an eye. Already you have destroyed river systems, created irreversible salinity damage & deforestation & irreversible pollution. It took MILLIONS of years to create the life the invaders discovered here. Indigenous Australia managed it for over 60,000 years with NO IMPACT. Even an idiot should have enough understanding of basic maths to understand that your "better" ways are a path to total destruction.The only "lifestyle choices" Australians should be concerned with are their own. YOU & others like you are the real drain on this country. Open your eyes & see your destruction. One day your own grandchildren will curse you for your short-sighted greed & the world you "built" for them.

[@cricktail3869]

+Sam Francis LOL this country was managed for tens of thousands of years using traditional farming practices. There were sustainable industries supporting permanent villages & international trade routes - a history that is of course reflected in the earliest colonial documents, but until recently NEVER discussed in books on Australian history. Compared to the length of time Aboriginal people had already been SUCCESSFULLY managing Australia as a giant communal farming estate, your "developed" culture has been here for just a blink of an eye. Already you have destroyed river systems, created irreversible salinity damage & deforestation & irreversible pollution. It took MILLIONS of years to create the life the invaders discovered here. Indigenous Australia managed it for over 60,000 years with NO IMPACT. Even an idiot should have enough understanding of basic maths to understand that your "better" ways are a path to total destruction.The only "lifestyle choices" Australians should be concerned with are their own. YOU & others like you are the real drain on this country. Open your eyes & see your destruction. One day your own grandchildren will curse you for your short-sighted greed & the world you "built" for them.

[@andreholanda73]

As a brazilian, let tell you. We may have had different scenes and characters, but the history of brazilian colonization was the same horror movie. I felt totally represented by this speech from the other side of the globe. Thank you! Strength!

[@bobbyj8044]

Oh u mean u felt excited by the anti white sentiment. Wow how admirable.

[@ettwice3409]

@@bobbyj8044 bro what

[@jfkfitirjdjjsisieirirjfjdj5967]

@@bobbyj8044 🤣is that what ya call the truth,ok cupcake,boy I’m glad I’m not you in near future,yas have a very astronomical price to pay 👊🏾

[@jfkfitirjdjjsisieirirjfjdj5967]

@@micktre7608 it don’t matter if he mixed,what matters is his spirit,where his heart is,his heart is with his peoples,like me,I’m mixed but born n raised in a black family and community,yeah,I’ve had clever men try do me in because I’m mixed,but I survived and still have love for them,I know our laws about our purity,but most my peoples understand we didn’t choose or ask to be mixed,most my peoples have understanding, I’m mixed n loved and accepted in my community,they know where I stand, and the clever men who tried their luck are now cool with me,I told em face to face like a man that if I could choose my purity I would choose to be just like them,yeah now they know where my heart is,I’ve got clever full blood family to,they say farq the ones who don’t like us mixed ones,because they have no understanding or reasoning and they are hypocrites who have mixed family members themselves

[@styvo51]

Thanks Stan for sharing your story and that of your people in such a powerful way.

[@spherical3187]

thank you as well :p

[@SLORTA5]

Worth a standing ovation I would have thought.

[@haydosasity5456]

+mick TASMANIA "yer well stop thoughting"..... Can't spell.....Can't think.... Perhaps KZbin isn't the forum for you and your illiteracy!

[@lidsvillebrown]

+mick TASMANIA Dude. You are your own punishment.

[@onaseriousnote4183]

+David in Melbourne I am literate David. Now, Mick's comment IS hard to decipher but do you seriously think it appropriate to have a go at someone if they really are illiterate? A literate person ought to know better. YET, I see he proves to actually be literate later on... and he is maybe a liberal because he is saying something about SG wanting a seat for Labor (I don't care one way or the other but get sick of people turning everything into a political argument - and I find politics interesting but the constant turning of every story into politics is quite tiring and ho hum). Oh, David I see he also goes on to be quite racist toward Aborigines - so actually David - I have changed my mind, go ahead... say what you like to him - but perhaps not by having a go at people being illiterate! Maybe try taking a different tack???

[@haydosasity5456]

+On A Serious Note I wasn't having a go at illiteracy. I was having a go at a Troll. I have gone through reporting mick Tasmania's behaviour to KZbin. His attitude is not welcome here. Hopefully, his replies will be removed for this thread.

[@harryblake9911]

+David in Melbourne Actually aborigines have one of the lowest literacy rates in Australia. And it's not for lack of funding or schooling.

[@davidholt1250]

Absolutely everything he said is true and backed by hard evidence. Rather than apologizing for, denying, or defending our white racism we should just bloody well change ourselves and revolutionize our thinking and outlook both as a nation and as individuals. It all starts with us as individuals. And that includes shaming and calling out racism in others when we see it or hear it.

[@lawrsam]

I´m not an Australian, just a common black guy from the most populous nation in Africa, living in Germany. This speech made me cry like a kid...

[@XlouietheflyX]

Great speech. I also note that many have come forward below to unwittingly prove his points regarding racism ...

[@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258]

wtf are you talking about, everyone is saying that they need to move on, that's good. we apologised and asked for forgiveness and they continue the white man blame game, Jews immigrated here and started anew and don't play the professional victim as if their past isn't acknowledged, as if they didn't play the victim that their plight would be forgotten, the prime minister apologised and honored the past, that was a kick start for the aboriginal people to move on and integrate, build their communities and get jobs and stop the violence and crime. but hasnt happened, we pour endless money into this pit and they won't climb out of it, some like him like playing the professional victim cause he is afraid the past is not honored, we have Australia day, their day to remember the past good and bad, yet they spit in our face and call it invasion day and play the victim card again and again and teach this hate to their kids, this video is dangerous, it teaches white man guilt, as if we didn't know the past that we learn at school, and he feels the need to grandstand what we already knew and literally apologised for, the only ones stop the aboriginal people being great is their own victim mentality, join society or your culture will die like the DODO...

[@XlouietheflyX]

+Adrian Simmlekark I'm not sure whether you made a grammatical error but what you have written suggests that you are shocked that people don't embrace racist views??? Or do you mean that they DON'T disapprove of racism? To my mind many of the comments on this video demonstrate that racism remains a very real problem in Australia. By this, let's be clear, I mean that RACISTS ARE THE PROBLEM AND THAT INSTITUTIONAL RACISM IS THE PROBLEM

[@XlouietheflyX]

+Adrian Simmlekark I see that Australians do not have a monopoly on racism, and that racists like you exist everywhere. Where are your glowing references to Hitler? You'd better throw some in.

[@yousymik]

"I've succeeded in spite of the Australian dream, not because of it..." How did he not get a standing ovation!? Raw!

[@juxtapoz82]

That’s exactly what I thought!

[@ChildofSaid299]

Me too!! I was about about get up and start clapping in my own home.I feel like in Australia we have this weird sense of "ugh, here is another abo talking about their issues" which is disgusting and I blame schools for how there were portrayed like "feel bad for them guys, ok now lets move on" there was no real discussion on how we can make their experience better and stop them from being marginalised.

[@rosajohnson5283]

As an Aboriginal Australian from Yorta Yorta country i absolutely loved this! every word spoken with truth and passion, lost for words..

[@tiffaniking7652]

This is one video I have to go back and re-watch time and time again. Raw, powerful and heartbreaking.

[@marymolloy426]

Wonderful speech by Stan Grant. What an amazing man he is. I absolutely agree with his comments and sentiments.Very powerful and eloquent.

[@deborahcarter8971]

You’re an Amazing Person please keep spreading your positive words I would love to welcome you into my home I live in Highfields my hubby is the Black one I’m the White one proud to be called Nana Deb everyday I breathe. I grew up in the Mater Childrens Hospital my passion for Aboriginals probably grew from 1961 not a single Aboriginal Child ever shared our Children’s Ward how disgusting plus I grew up through the Aboriginals being removed and loaded into buses from their Musgrave Park in Brisbane so they could build Expo 88. I spent 2 decades not far from Murdering Creek Sunshine Coast - read the history. I’ve had the pleasure of visiting Katherine Gorge and I will never forget Scott and my visit to Uluṟu and the pleasure we had in our conversations with Your Elders thanks Stan for your words I listened xo

[@louaiga74]

STAN GRANT WOULD BE THE GREATEST AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER IF ELECTED!! STAN DESERVES THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE

[@turbostyler]

I want to express my thanks to Stan Grant, and other Aboriginal people for educating me on Australian history. For me it helps me understand why Aboriginal people feel the way they do, and I can completely empathise with them. I personally will raise awareness when I can of this topic as I feel it's something Australia has to come to terms with.

[@jake.e.wanabee5333]

with all due respect are most of you Australian? Are you aware of the billions of dollars of handouts and privileges indigenous Australians receive every year and have since the late 70's and the waste and the corruption within local indigenous councils, all at the cost of hard-working taxpayers? Have any of you people experienced or are any of you aware of the unprovoked constant reverse racism and name calling and arrogance indigenous people use such as "F**kn white dog get back to work you pig C*nt", as I and other neighbours get in our vehicles to go to work daily and raise a family. Or walk through a shopping centre doing grocery shopping with family, copping racial abuse whilst we say nothing to even instigate anything. Do any of you live near indigenous families and have to endure abuse and noise while they party every night with endless source of alcohol, verbal abuse, physical abuse, loud music 24/7 and total negligence for property of their own or those around. You and others know nothing of the reverse racism and pure belligerent behaviour of these people who are given special privilege in sport, jobs and tertiary education over nonindigenous Australians. May I also highlight the sickening and disgusting abuse of animals in Aboriginal and indigenous missions, where animals, including dogs, horses and cats, with bones sticking out, no food, no fur due to mange, weeping sores, are dying in the streets, and the RSPCA are denied acces to keep the abuse low key, all while there are vehicles easily worth $50000+ in the driveways of their publicly utterly destroyed taxpayer funded houses, littered with empty beer bottles, cans of spirits, all of which they destroy due to boredom. Stan Grant states that his people die10 years younger than Australians, that may be linked to the alcohol abuse, petrol sniffing, chroming of aerosol cans or soda stream canisters and rampant meth abuse and total disregard for healthy food despite being freely available now, and total lack of education of upcoming generations because the parents refuse to send their kids to school to learn, because the privileged, oh sorry, poorly done by indigenous Australians, don't have to look for work, they don't send their children to school, they are paid to sit at home with no questions asked. Stan states that despite being 3 percent of the population, they make up between 25-50% of the prison population. Let's clear that up for all of you who know nothing. For one thing the ratio of government spending for 3% of the population is ridiculously disproportionate, please google and download the data. Juvenile and indigenous crime is now as rampant as ever across Australia, including car theft, assault, robbery, break in enter, undertaken by juvenile offenders as young as 10 years old! If this happened to you, how would you feel?? I'm sorry but, where the HELL are the parents, where is the responsibility of these parents in keeping these children at home, teaching and instilling discipline, respect for what you have, morals, such as don't steal, earn things and work for your money, whether property, or any personal possession, respect the belongings and the opinions of others. Why are these juveniles out at 3am stealing, smashing, joy riding cars, people have worked for or have bank loans for and endangering the life of innocent Australians? Responsible parents instill values such as "If you don't have it, don't steal, work for it, save up for it and own it", are these not morals instilled in 60000 years???? SOOOOOO Obviously not. Why are these morals at a majority nonexistent, within large percentages of the indigenous population? Because with every indigenous born child, comes another hike in welfare payments, for the irresponsible parents, easy money to get more alcohol or bag of ice, flat screen TV, you name it. It is the lack of responsibility of these parents, who are obviously unfit parents, why there is a ridiculously high indigenous crime rate and incarceration rate, not the fault of nonindigenous Australians, or the government or the commonwealth from 200 years ago. MORALS, accept it as a race and do something about it, stop blaming. And respect has a lot to do here. I understand that there were wrongful acts carried out by colonial settlers, but what and why are those Australians not with English heritage all clammed into the one cauldron of White C**T or other derogatory language barrages. Are there records of POLICE BULLDOZDING property????????????? What about the war of extermination only 80 odd years ago carried out by, Hitler and Mussolini across the entirety of Europe? What about those survivors who came to this country despite all the pain and suffering and made something out of nothing, whilst indigenous people still clammer to the events of 200 years ago? I was born here, I am indigenous. Is this not my homeland as equally as any aboriginal peoples?? Or am I a homeless person and this is not my homeland STAN GRANT?? Is that your Australian Dream STAN GRANT to divide the country and exterminate my right as an Australian Born Citizen based on my colour or race. WRONG STAN, Divisive and undermining???????? Please Stan, address the rampant hatred and racism of indigenous Australians against supposed nonindigenous Australians, before you throw all Australians under the bus as RACIST. Am I not an Indigenous Australian, but being born here makes me indigenous, or am or am I not?

[@shanewharton4387]

Tell the story, seek a better future. Go STAN, you are eloquent, passionate and truth teller.

[@oriti3730]

A beautiful, moving & honest speech. Thank you for speaking it out 🙏 your legacy calls out the truth. Tears ran down my face 😢

[@juliexlawler7354]

Thank you for your bravery. All Aussies need to sit and listen to this and recognise the truth.

[@samfrancis1614]

+Julie X Lawler How is he brave? He gave a speech at an elite function to an elite audience. His speech was written about favourably by the elite media. The ideas expressed in his speech are believed by most university professors and their students. There is nothing brave, radical or new in this mediocre man's speech.

[@CatsinQuarantine]

All respect to Stan Grant. I couldn't even read the text of this speech aloud in public without breaking down in tears, and it's not even a speech about the suffering of my family or my ancestors. I am so glad he is able to express, so eloquently, the love that he has for Australia without ever denying or diminishing the harm and humiliation that our nation has done to his family, to the Wiradjiri people and to all Indigenous people in this country. We are better than these dreadful injustices and we must do all we can to change ourselves and our institutions so we don't tolerate them any more.

[@sharkbait598]

On of the most important Australian speeches of our time, unfortunately it will be forgotten, assigned to the dustbin by a White Australia. But I heard it and I was moved, I was again reminded of it last night when I watched 'the Australian Dream'. I played it again today....Just to walk a mile in his shoes. Of course I can't imaging Stan's or other indigenous peoples journey because they have lived it their whole lives..... Even just a small journey leaves and impression....Thank you Stan

[@deadsetfishing7451]

I like your youtube name

[@markpeasley245]

Australia Day will never be the celebration it should be - until white Australia opens its eyes to the black history that our country is built on - until we see our history is 60000 plus 200 years long - until we celebrate our black and white histories -

[@strangenameforaband342]

+Mark Peasley How many Australians do you know that dont know any aboriginal history ? And i'm fair dinkom . For if i am to take you as honest , you have to believe that there are alot of people who have no idea . How do propose to educate these people about the subject , since you cannot move in this country without hearing about it . Or are you bein dishonest ?

[@nicholasfisher4952]

Holy wow, that was amazing.

[@Eskay1206]

Real Australian history, I hope things change, I will do my bit. I hope all others do the same. Great speech. Calling it like it is

[@freemanisnow]

+V PHOENIX he's not saying anyone is murdering aborigines- he's stating historical facts.

[@dented5ky]

+V PHOENIX Pretending that everything is hunky-dory these days just because we're not shooting them and burning their houses down is naive and doesn't help at all.

[@dented5ky]

***** It helps a lot. A lot of what he said wasn't mentioned to me in school even when we learnt about Australian history. It's good to get different perspectives on things from someone whose own family lived it. And "complaining about the sawmill" - lol I see you mentioning the least horrible part of his family's past.

[@dented5ky]

***** The ten year lifespan gap as well as the gap between high school leavers versus people in jail shows that there is still something wrong with our system. He's saying that we need to come together as a nation to try and fix these issues - black and white and everything in between. Aboriginals get welfare money - so? Perhaps that is the wrong approach since it isn't working? It may not be gen Y and Z's fault but it is our problem even now, because of white privilege. Our wealth and our land as a society is based upon taking it from someone else. I'm sure he has had racist shit said to him so I don't know how you can say he's not oppressed due to his heritage.

[@dented5ky]

***** If you are white in a Western country then you have white privilege. You should google it. No one is asking you to flog yourself. What Stan is asking is that we come together as Australians to try to make this country even better than it already is by addressing its racism issues, instead of just going "oh well it's not my problem" or "oh well we give them money" because it's their heritage, their past - that is now part of their culture and they can't just turn around and forget like you and I can.

[@katinajones6462]

Yes, Stan is speaking the truth and it was a great speech, but what are we going to do about an "Australia that is really not a multicultural safe haven of equal opportunity"? What is that quote? I paraphrase. "Evil persists when good men do nothing". Let's move!

[@excelsiormaze8749]

Incredibly moving speech. I cried through almost all of this and I find it soo sad how all he is saying is true.

[@louiseallan5993]

Thank you. Speech of the year.

[@k2kyinmelz-bra834]

Speech of the century

[@maggiebaker5986]

Amen. A great piece of oration. I want to believe we are ‘better than that’. I was overseas when you left the ABC, Stan, and was saddened and disgusted by the developments that occurred while I was away. I hope you have found some solace, and I wish you the very best of luck in your new career challenge.

[@peterwatson4382]

I live in a predominantly black neighbourhood , I try to be obliging friendly and helpful , I go the extra mile for them whenever or however I can, no .... I'm no hero I just treat them like I would anyone else and some are respectful and greatfull , but I have to say there are many that have just spat on me, because for no other reason other than because I'm white and these are people ive helped , everywhere I go I see the black flag flying , but I'm afraid that if I fly the oz flag tomorrow I may get a bottle through my window ,...... but then I surpose I deserve it I'm just a white racist

[@MsTreenam]

+Peter Watson and? care to explain why some may have spat on you? any thoughts other than you're a victim? any connections between the video and your experiences?

[@ThanatosReturns]

+Peter Watson They probably spit, because they've been spit on and cursed at themselves. I'm saying that no-one deserves racism, not you, not them. People usually react a certain way because of how they feel or actually have, been treated. Understand? I am sorry you feel scared where you live. Perhaps tell some of the neighbors around you? Go and knock on their doors and say "Hi, I'm your neighbor and I'm worried about stuff happening. Do you think you can help?". It would be hard to do, but who knows...

[@ThanatosReturns]

+Kould B Us versus them? That is all you want? That is all you see?

[@peterwatson4382]

+LeightonBuck I appreciate your imput or suggestions , but I wont be bangin doors here, it's not me that I'm a little fearful for, its my family . Could you imagine going down at 3 in the morning when there've had a night on the bottle and, or the pipe and they sound like their killing each other and poke my head around the corner and say ...knock , knock just wondering ,is there anything I can do to help , yeah , I know I sound just like another racist pig, but mate this is the reality of it in so many cases , this is what so many ...... not all but many have been trying to say in these posts . If I walk down the street I am expected to be .. at least a half decent law abiding citizen, how is it that we are expected to look the other way because of colour . Many of us were kicked through the years as kids and grew up in less than favourable circumstances to say the least, if you raise a family , do you reward the ones that are rebellious and wont tow the line at the expense of those that are more willing to be a part of the family , that's not how it was in my family , yes there is always something you can do for some .... and there some that are beyond it .

[@peterwatson4382]

+Treena Metallic I know we live in a society that is a little messed up and that its not always fair , and i certainly don't know the answers to all life's problems and I don't think I even know what the word " victim" means anymore as the world uses it these days but if i find myself in trying circumstances there's no point in me sitting on the ground stamping my feet kicking and screaming waiting for something to change i have to find a way to either get over it ,around it ,or through it otherwise nothing will change...... it's how you think that makes you swim or sink . If you see a shrink for a problem they will often put your past under the microscope , but I'm not so sure sometimes that harrowing up the past is that productive . Sometimes we just have to move on.

[@gillianperrett]

Thanks to the Ethics Centre for sharing this. It makes me so sad that my British Australian ancestors didn't see the injustice of what happened in their day and that it is so hard for the Australian community to put things right now. Stan's words make it all so vivid, without overdramatising or finger pointing.

[@harryblake9911]

+Gillian Perrett you do realise that aborigines were invading one another for millennia before the British showed up. Why is that not condemned but the British invasion condemned? White people need a positive racial identity if we are to survive. There is nothing to be ashamed of in our past

[@MrBrizmat]

I am almost a decade old Brown Australian and touch-wood my family have never encountered any discrimination because of my color nor my ethnicity! We had white Australians dropping their kids at my place and we dropping our Kids at their places, with no hiccups on either sides and by sowing respect we have gained respect. Every Nation has a very bad History whether its India America Australia or Europe. Indigenous Australians are not the only one who have suffered in this world. There are Jews who were slaughtered in millions in Europe but they didn't pity party on what happened in past but rather worked hard and in today's date have their names behind every great invention. This they had not achieved if they had pity partied on the atrocities that were committed against them or even being threatened even today for extinction. If Migrants from Asia Africa can come to Australia and have lived decent dignified life being black and brown where I am one among them and contributed towards the Australian economy, I don't understand who has stopped those majority of Indigenous Australians to come out of their own prison to get skilled or educated and live with dignity like some doing. If White Australians were really racists, why would they allow non Europeans like me to come and settle here and live with more freedom and more equality which my motherland couldn't even dream of, especially reap the bountiful harvest for which my forefathers didn't fight nor till nor did the sowing! These losers must be sent to Saudi Arabia or any other country or even my Motherland which is the Heaven for all racists.

[@tbssic1]

+MrBrizmat Thank you. It is too bad that people are called racists if they happen to believe that sometimes, people create their own problems. Sadly, more people like you (success stories) do speak out more often.. For many people around the world, coming to Australia would be a dream come true.

[@annieausten1784]

I cried listening to him talk, partially because of how he spoke and partially because what he said was true. Too true. Very moving.

[@rezeneg8627]

Painfull as a Black man to hear thise words. that's the Australian history. But Australia have changed. it is the least racist country. the present Australian generation are not responsible for what happened. time to heal and Love. Love Australia and its kind people!!!!!!

[@GraffitiPhysical]

So true, I'm not aboriginal but I feel their pain. I would go so far as say that genocide has been perpetrated by the invaders. I can remember that in school they taught us about the 'settlement' of Australia. How wrong. Australia was already inhabited. I suspect that a case against the crown for genocide would be appropriate. Don't know why this hasn't been attempted. Yes Australia when you celebrate Australia day think of the plight of the Aboriginal people. Absolutely criminal. Still today there's no real effort by the federal government to give the Aboriginal people compensation and their land back. Not Crown land, it was stolen, it is Aboriginal land. I like the New Zealand mode, where the indigenous people receive rental payment by the inhabitants of their land. It would be a good start. Aboriginal studies should be mandatory in school. Good on you Stan for speaking and sharing with us your own personal pain.

[@urungatash]

Thank you for speaking the truth ✌

[@19552010leo]

Moving & powerful speech ! Timely ! A motivation to open our eyes & to change things !!

[@dougdeep2150]

+MR Change things? How? We have said sorry and the aborigines have every benefit under the sun.

[@cathrynesanders2008]

+Doug Deep Yes, they have the 'benefit' of dying twenty years earlier than you.

[@zen-ov6tw]

Racism would never excist, if people would know about the just recently unveiled *ultimate Truth of Life*. This *truth* that covers a variety of subjects concerning life, makes up the big picture of life in every facet. The core of the *truth* would be explaining the real *nature of the mind*. The *truth* will overcome the badstates of the mind permantly, because it explains how life works and obtains your *ultimate purpose*. The *truth* will change your view on life and as a result it will unslave you from the mental prison and it bad manifestations ( racism, fear, anger, mindchatter enz...) Google *TruthContest click on the earth icon and read the Present*. If you know the *truth*, you will know we are all equal.

[@sohigh5140]

Sorry, but I never click 'read more' :D

[@SteveGuy86]

+So High It's only 2 more lines, are you really that lazy?

[@BigYella300zx]

Well spoken & a balanced view as to moving forward. Forgetting our past will not be easy, moving forward will not be easy, but it must be as Stan so rightly articulated- ALL. Unfortunately no matter what race or culture we all share moments of ancestral history that makes feel ashamed, proud, sad & glad. I look towards the much needed acknowledgement of Aboriginal people as Australia's first people's in our constitution. I believe that it's time to embrace & celebrate our future together with many different cultures & more change that will see this blessed country an even better place to live.

[@CharlieGunningham]

Wow - strong and passionate; beautifully delivered; saddening and enraging; an extremely important speech. I salute you Stan Grant.

[@NaomiHills]

A brilliant man, of many ways. You are so helpful to the Australian culture. I find it hard to digest but what you are saying is true.

[@markem9415]

About time someone cut through the deluded, feel good, 'pat yourself on the back' bullshit that Australia Day is notorious for. +1

[@mreoinobrien]

Wow. Nearly in tears watching this. Amazing speech. I hope it helps to begin to breakdown barriers for all those of different creeds and colours.

[@Gothicleeman]

My cousin who are all aboriginal on my mother side are related to Stan Grant so I really feel this interview it hurt my heart to hear his story that is a part of my family history and passed

[@Mishndeb]

folks, when criticising Stan's speech as being negative, don't forget: he was creating an argument: "That racism is killing the Australian dream". It wasn't a free choice topic, like a political speech, like Keating's Redfern speech, or Howards "...choose the manner in which they come" speech. There was a motion put, which Stan and thee other panellists were arguing either for or against. And it wasn't within his remit to look for answers or solutions; he was arguing a point, em tasol. And in this case, I think Stan created a very strong argument with strong supporting evidence that Racism is, indeed, killing the Australian Dream.

[@whyonmoon]

"...every time we are lured into the light we are mugged by this country's history"

[@alexrainey3242]

You don't see British people crying to Italians about the Roman occupation of medieval Britain in 2016. That's because people get over it-bad things happen in history. We are all better than that nowadays

[@livepuppies]

A lot of comments here angrily arguing against Grant's comments about Goodes. I guess that means they AGREE with everything else in the speech.

[@livepuppies]

Ok, so the real problem isn't with Grant's comments about Goodes, but the overall content? Do you think that the reason people choose to attack him over the Goodes observations alone is because they are worried that if they were to also challenge his other points they might appear racist? Even though, as you point out they clearly DO disagree with his other points. And that in so doing their claims to be un-biased in their dislike of Goodes might be tainted by their obvious racism? So, I guess, what you're saying is, and I know I'm reading a lot here into your highly thought out comment, but it's the only way it can be read, that the people attacking this man over the Goodes comments, are in effect saying 'I am racist... but that's not the reason I don't like Goodes', except they are too afraid, or cowardly, to say what they really think, because, I suppose the usual excuse for that sort of gutless behaviour is 'political correctness' or something? From Tassie, I see. Fuck, the Aboriginal people got a rough time down there. I wonder if your comment is, in part at least, a sort of gut instinct response to your own denial? Probably. "bullshit" Were you angry when you wrote that? It seems very angry, an angry sort of word. Angry that Grant is asking you to reconsider the history you might think you have some sort of ownership over, some pride in? If you had said the word, and not written it, would there have been angry spittle coming out of your mouth, through clenched teeth, perhaps? Think about that. But, think as well on this... if your pride is totally centered on a history that you had no part in, the founding of a nation, fictitious or not, that you had nothing to do with, the further progression of that nation which you can now only reply with one word 'bullshit' and demonstrate to the world that not only have you had nothing to do with the founding of this nation, that you likely contribute almost nothing to the ongoing betterment of the nation and have no interest in contributing to the progression of the nation forward. And yet, you no doubt benefit, like a big 'bullshit' leach, sucking off the hard work of others before you, giving nothing, offering nothing but 'bullshit'. The only thing you can be proud of is some tenuous association to the country you live in, and your place within its history... Aussie, Aussie, Aussie... and if you haven't got that (and even if it was true you haven't done anything to deserve it) and you haven't got that, and it isn't even real, it's like Santa Clause, or the Tooth Fairy, and you're being asked to grow up, and be an adult, but it's too hard to grow up when all you've got are imaginary associations with an imaginary history and tradition. It's kind of like, 'shut up, I don't want to hear it... I don't want to hear something that makes me uncomfortable'. But, why would it make you uncomfortable? Why would this make you so angry? You've already clarified, with that one word in response to my question, that obviously the people commenting here DO agree with Grant on all but one issue. "bullshit" It's amazing how much you can read into a person from ONE word. Isn't it? And I know, if you read, or were able to read, as far as this, that you see yourself in everything I've written. You might weep 'bullshit' again, but in your heart, in your brain, you know I've shone a mirror up to you and revealed everything about you. From one word. 'bullshit'.

[@manusiulotoaniu9454]

+livepuppies youre too smart for this bloke

[@strangenameforaband342]

+livepuppies So are you saying you agree with Stan Grant in that aboriginals are victims and need special treatment ? This guy selling out aboriginal people for a political advancement is fine ? I did not boo Adam Goodes but the immediate branding of all who did racist , was in it's self racist .

[@elMaRa.Seraphim]

OMG ~ Stan Grant ~ you are my new hero! WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS! DO NOT MISS THIS ONE! History is written by the winners not the losers. BRAVO STAN ~ BRAVO for having the COURAGE TO SPEAK YOUR TRUTH & share your story. Awesome 8 minutes which will inspire you to do better ~ or at least I TRUST IT WILL. LET'S ALL DO BETTER ~ because we can! NAMASTE ~ ESPAVO Richest blessings to all ~ el Ma Ra

[@IXtn]

Just imagine what Australia would look like today if the British hadn't settled. It would most likely be part of Indonesia, and aboriginals, if they would still exist as a race, would be treated with as much respect and dignity as west Papuans. Then again I bet the social justice warriors probably believe that no one would ever have colonised Australia and aboriginals would be living in unity with the unicorns and developing culture and science for the benefit of all of humanity...

[@tbssic1]

+IXtn This just in,,,,,,, stone structures and the wheel,,,, any day now......

[@dented5ky]

Perhaps they would have been worse off somehow, but perhaps they would have been much better off.

[@appleandoranges1]

+IXtn Indonesia was only created after ww2, after 300 odd years of European colonization, and Asian invasion from the north. What you think of as "indonesian" is actually mostly Javanese- the biggest and most populous part of the country, sets the agenda over all the other small ethnic groups like Timorese, Balinese, etc. If it hadn't been the Brits, it would have been the French, Dutch, possibly Russian......all of whom's overseas empires eventually fell. More interesting to think what might have happened if the Polynesians had landed here at the same time as Aotearoa.

[@IXtn]

Drew fromOz You're right but I think you know what I mean. People from what we now call Indonesia would have settled here. We know from the Dutch who were the last Europeans to colonise Indonesia that that they didn't hold on to any territory and left cleanly. They had even claimed (and had tried to settle in) West Papua but as we know today it is completely under Indonesian rule, so I think it's not unreasonable to assume Indo colonisation of Australia would have been likely.

[@appleandoranges1]

IXtn I think influenced by would be a better call, just as the folks from what we call Indonesia now were influenced in their turn by other groups. Interesting thought experiments, though. :)

[@hs7921]

Honest and hard hitting speech. Well done Mr. Grant.

[@zacara8]

Wow. He lays it out

[@winsor68]

I am better than that. Good on you Stan. Always was...always will be.

[@PellionPl]

Thank you Stan a powerful moving speech.

[@JohnBack]

A new hero for Australia.

[@yindyamarra]

marambang bidya , spoken in Wiradjury thanks mate

[@annmackay5704]

An impassioned speech and very poetic. I hope others will be touched as I was.

[@56Timtam]

This makes me feel so sad, that this is still even having to be said. Thank you Stan Grant.

[@youbigtubership]

The very well documented give-and-take of violence between settlers and indigenous people, coupled with the legal and administrative record showing that beyond the limited reach of the colony indigenous people were left to their own laws, shows that Stan Grant's view is centred on one particular culture's view of what happened. Just so happened it's a minority with significant global voice due to the devices brought by the more powerful culture.

[@melanie-_]

this opened my eyes so much. why arnt I shown this in school?

[@mandulaproductions7840]

go back to school

[@itsmaxolol9687]

probably because it was made in 2016

[@unclubbableplus]

I was shown this last month in school, because we're finally being educated on more confronting topics now.

[@hugoreeves9912]

im in school on my bed watching this right now

[@richw8342]

Teaching it.

[@richardm7181]

I am at my desk and my eyes are filled with tears. Thank you Stan

[@barbarareynolds100]

Amazing and moving video. Should be a must see for all Australians - young and old.

[@arcobelina]

You took me, as a 10yo pommie kid, to meet your grandmother way back in the 1960's, a lovely old lady just like my nana. Australia is my family, I am a dual national, pommie and Aussie. My first daughter from my first wife is a 1st fleeter. My current wife is from the Dutch royal family, the wrong bit, the bit that followed the Germans in WW2. Her daughter,my step daughter is aboriginal. All of my grand kids from both daughters are Aboriginal. You and I went to the same school. We were friends and played league together. The Australian dream was for you and I to grow up and to do all we can for our country. I try,you try we must all try. We will do it, we will become all Australians. Nice speech.

[@Margarethleslie]

I am in awe of Stan, so eloquently stated, he read my heart and the hearts of so many. I feel so proud to be a part of his Australia

[@rachelmott1296]

An absolutely brilliant speech. Let us be far greater than that!

[@bobgteen6496]

Hahaha jews killing Muslims right now. Sooo. Everything in the past must have been right..

[@ourlifelivingbetweenmorocc4853]

No matter how many times I watch this incredible speech I am moved to tears and goosebumps run up my arms and the hair stands up on my neck.

[@haraherdigan8566]

racism and stigma will never go away for us. Being a strong australian aboriginal human being is all about challenging the stereotypes. The ignorance of people will never go away. as the comments below are proof of such ignorance.

[@jeffkennett5340]

Stan A wonderfully brief but powerful contribution to an evolving debate

[@XenonOzHID]

Powerful and very meaningful - Well done Mr Grant.

[@RGNSS-dp8st]

Wow, great stuff. We do have a long way to go. We're not as different from the American experience as we often like to tell ourselves.

[@johndenton5232]

As an English man who lived in Australia and chose Aussie citizenship; and also as a gay man who lived in Australia in the 90s, I am incredibly saddened to hear people respond so cheaply to this speech. You were the country that welcomed in strangers, that fought for equality and had/has so much going for you. Since the beginning of the 2000s you have become insular, driven by fear and now we see an increase in racism, the closing of borders and an inwardness that tarnishes the country. Its not just Australia of course, the world is moving that way. But to move on, you have to forgive the past but that requires everyone to accept and say they are sorry for what occurred.

[@peterwatson4382]

+John Denton its not as if there's no ladder in the hole John.

[@johndenton5232]

I agree - its not all doom but would be better to read more positive comments than some of the stuff written here in response to the speech/debate.

[@davidmerpz]

Fantastic speech - very moving and true.

[@terk861]

Run for PM brother

[@MrMaccamax]

I believe Stan Grant is not only doing himself terrible damage , He is stirring a hateful attitude toward his very subject . History is not pretty as matt said . The answer isn't to have this generation to be punished for what Big mouth Grant is quoting from 1820. >>>> If Sky keep him on they won't get my household viewing. I think Stan Grants outburst is the worst I have ever listened to and I am 82 , May he pay the price he deserves . Removal from the airwaves.

[@cricktail3869]

That's the point. It's not from 1820. It's NOW. Australia has an Indigenous Incarceration rate FIVE TIMES the rate apartheid-era South Africa. In Western Australia it's NINE TIMES the rate of apartheid-era SouthAfrica. Immediately after Rudd's apology speech on the Stolen Generations Australian state govts began breaching the International Convention For The Prevention of Genocide by removing Aboriginal children at the highest rates in this country's history, dwarfing the original Stolen Generation several times over. At the time of the apology there less then 3000 removed Indigenous kids, today there are THIRTEEN THOUSAND & climbing. In 1998 an Australian court found that the Australian govt IS unbeknownst to most of it's citizens, quietly comitting genocide against Indigenous Australians. Of course it never made mainstrean news. Probably because they want you to remain oblivious to the reaon this judge was powerless to do anything despite the evidence he'd seen - Australia did not sign the International Convention for the Prevention of Genocide. ie THE ACT OF GENOCIDE IS NOT UNLAWFUL IN AUSTRALIA.Ask yourself why your govt is one of the few who refused to sign? This is your Australia NOW in 2016. We're not just talking about the past, we're talking about the present & YOU are a part of it.

[@strangenameforaband342]

+max w. He is selling out the aboriginal people for his own advancement . Telling everyone that aboriginals are victims servers no purpose then to keep the white guilty, and aboriginals down . This guy wants to go into politics , need i say more ?

[@MyPegasus7]

Stan Grant for PM!!!

[@KearaDelacy1]

Still my favorite speech of all time. Still brings me to tears every time

[@liltuppence1952]

Thank you Stan....time the whole country AWAKENED..!

[@robertvanderboot1364]

+Sam Francis Does your psychiatrist know that you've escaped?

[@GeedanUK]

+Robert Van Der Boot LOL!

[@MsLorenzo2012]

Beautifully Put.

[@lidsvillebrown]

What a masterful and overdue speech. For a Canadian it carries echoes of our history here. We are working through a similar legacy of conquest, reservations, brutality, racism and structural inequality. In the "New World" countries - their founding narratives of heroic conquest and settlement really need to be taken apart if we are going to extricate themselves from division and violence and the political exploitation of our racism. And by the way, if we fail to do this, it's at our peril. Because what fate do we meet if you don't take apart these divisive, false founding narratives? Look at the United States election campaign right now and the kind of politics that the country's racist history and widespread racism problem has helped to produce. It's either reconciliation, or karma-by-Trump. Quite apart from the basic fact of injustice and a sick society, I think that's at least partly what Grant means by "racism is destroying the Australian dream."

[@SonamRinchenOfNT]

Keep up the excellent struggle for justice & shining a light onto the dark spaces in Australia's past!

[@GeorgeIoannou]

What an incredible speech.

[@countchivas]

Life expectancy is double what it was pre-invasion day. A Fairfax reporter likened this to Martin Luther King's famous speech, though the obvious difference would be that one spoke of a vision of the future, the other dwelt on the past.

[@louiseihlein4850]

I live in rural NSW in a town that is 40% aboriginal and I see this every day . i never noticed it before I see racism and segregation all the time and I am ashamed

[@maireid]

"In the winter of twenty-fifteen, Australia turned to face itself. It looked into its soul and it had to ask this question: 'Who are we?'"

[@tonycamargo8359]

Well said Stan, I didn't know that, a bit of History and in a good time too. I am trying to stop tears from my eyes. Never I have had the chance to speak about this, but I am a new Australian who came to this beautiful country 26 years ago, but always wondered why in job situations I was part of, no much opportunities or fair go were given to some of your people. I salute you in your courage to speak in that way, and to cite the spirit and mentality of some of Australian Conquistadores that we veneered as fathers of this land. Fair to say, though, that we can not judge old standards with new or modern ones. I hope your speech will generate the opportunity to take it in a positive way.

[@samfrancis1614]

+Tony Camargo tell me, what is your ancestry?

[@glencoe1266]

There's a commentor ion here who is using a few aliases to drum up hate and to troll. Ignore anything Robyn/Paul Ashton has to say as its the same person.

[@clancyjames585]

I wish statistics on employment / prison etc for aboriginal people was used as motivation for further funding and help, rather than evidence of existing racism. Sure, there is racism at some level in Australia (large or small, I don't know how to measure it), but it's nowhere near as simple as this. Even if we had an infinite amount of money, how does one simultaneously interfere to improve education/health (etc), yet allow a people to remain in control of their lives/land? It's not that it can't be done - it's that it's difficult and takes time. And beginning by saying "you're all racists - now help us" is probably not the best place to start. Not that I can blame anyone for this approach, given episodes such as that of Goodes' booing, and infinitely many other episodes. But justified or not, it's just isn't going to help one little bit.

[@jujululu5269]

Such a powerful speech. I live in Australia, and I cannot believe people have the audacity to say we are not a racist nation. Our past is full of racism, and still, the Indigenous people are not treated equally. Australians are racist and its time this country faced the truth.

[@briggs86]

Excellent speech.

[@ThePhilly44]

Actions speak louder than words. Let us prove our words by our actions to those whom we see that aren't like us, according to lines of similarity, by appearance, speech etc. Such values are ingrained in us by our upbringing and the people we mix with.

[@michaelkavanagh9660]

i am so heartened to hear you speak ! i am with you all the way ! i am with Murrumu too. keep talking brother, keep letting the truth make its way through a grungy ignorant crowd. thank you so much and so much and JUST KEEP GOING~please, please.. Ambrosia David

[@qiuuu1211]

don't blame the country, the country is the people who live in it and the culture. this country has made mistakes in the past, but which country haven't? life now is fair so make the most of it. Aboriginals aren't in jail because they are aboriginal, they don't die younger because they are indigenous. please look into the heart of the problem, your in jail because you break the law, you die younger because of unhealthy habits. I feel this is the case due to lack of education, get your elders to do a better job of keeping you in school, get a job and change the vicious cycle that you have gotten yourselves into. god help those who help them selves, I hope you start doing that.

[@shane1391]

+CHIU IRIS you advocate taking responsibility - that is the rational, logical thing to do. But most of the folks here aren't interested in logic. They have accepted the victim narrative which is used to ensure a continued stream of benefits flow to the indigenous people. Benefits that nobody else in our society gets. It's reverse racism. But they need the victim narrative to justify it.

[@MadnessInsanityful]

+Michael Q Are you saying this from your position of white privilege?

[@MadnessInsanityful]

+CHIU IRIS Another in a position of privilage who refuses to want to acknowledge how hard is to be an Indigenous person in a white country who refuses to understand the real suffering of Indigenous.

[@andreworr5868]

+CHIU IRIS Did I meet you when i was studing at the Diamond Joe School of Economics on Eleventy Street? Clearly the answer to all the issues around disadvantage is that I people need to make more of an effort to be born rich and then get scholarships and a job from daddy's mates. Problem solved!

[@MadnessInsanityful]

+Andrew Orr Its not coincidence that a lot people here who are criticising this speech seem to come from privileged positions. They simply find it hard to relate to these issues because they have never been faced or had to deal with these same issues. The denial from these people is grating, they expect everyone to be living in this bubble of denialism and then scoff when people point this out and try to play victim. They also hijack important conversations to make it about them which then dilutes the whole issue.

[@avonsternen6034]

In this sense survivors are heroes. Thanks for leading betterment :)

[@blip98]

Many of us are better than that very powerful Mr Grant just a quick question, Who is going to be our first indigenous Prime Minister? anyone got any ideas? Generational guilt is one thing standing proud another standing proudly together can be done any day it needs not a name. History is a good teacher and the dead should never lead the living.

[@robertvanderboot1364]

+blip98 Since when does one become appointed to be Prime Minister simply because of one's blood lines?

[@blip98]

+Robert Van Der Boot Ask Malcom Turnbull but if your suggesting i want an indigenous person appointed as PM your an idiot i vote for my leaders. Turnbull got in on a party room vote of around 98 people thats as close to appointed as you can get . Mr Grant says "many of us are better than that" many votes get people into office

[@garybeard402]

+Robert Van Der Boot CONVICTS HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOREVER!! white bloodline privilege....

[@dented5ky]

Please not Jacqui Lambie.

[@robertvanderboot1364]

dentedsky The Bogan Queen of Burnie.

[@LaceAgeGirl]

Deeply moving and personal, this talk resonates with my own personal feelings of 'public guilt'. I agree we are crippled by this issue as a nation;it touches each of us. Stan, you would be an excellent voice to add to the push for Gonski needs-based funding. I feel education is one key to change, starting as young as we can. Until every child is given a fair opportunity to reach their potential, Australia will remain an immature nation, and lag in its economic performance too.

[@lionpaw4621]

Biggest problem of Australia is ALCOHOLISM.

[@williamsearle9781]

So do aboriginals it's not just bogans

[@tommyx6553]

Racism is real in Ausie.

[@davidfavre8296]

And Lebanese ?

[@MrTimothy87]

That was so good and he speaks as if he was in America, South Africa,England. The point is that this is the their mindset and its evident all over the world..Its a sad state of affairs amd he's right we are better than that but there are alot of people in this world who are not and those are the ones we must deal with..im so tired of the hate,evil and racism in this world..Its so senseless and to hate someone because of the color of their skin is 1 of the most idiotic things I have ever heard. Change is gonna come..Change will come. Theres no choice but to change of you want it or not..Change is gonna happen..

[@keithnewman8280]

A giant of a man Stan