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[@Kilotip1]

I wonder when Etsy will be sued for taking someone’s money to set up the shop and then immediately banning them.

[@juliejohnson6753]

Soon I hope!

[@Alex-ds6oz]

@Kilotip1 I wonder when Etsy will be sued for taking renewal fees for every sale while the product has not been sold out yet and the 4 month period has not ended yet.

[@SugaBerry]

They did that to me it said I violated a policy even tho I haven’t used that account in a couple years one product that’s it.

[@NickKemp]

I setup a shop on Sunday, uploaded 20 product designes (which had countries flags in them) paid the outstanding debt which the dashbaord said was due on the 15th of april (it is now the 10th of april.) got banned last night. No reason provided. shop lasted 3 days. Before my first bill was due.

[@annadesn665]

@@Alex-ds6oz but the renewal fee makes sense? It's 0.20c per item (quantity), not per listing. Imagine, you selling one of a kind t-shirt, where your quantity is 1 and you pay .20c listing fee, and then I sell 999 of the same t-shirts using print on demand and I only pay .20c to sell all of these too? That wouldn't be fair.

[@intentionally-blank]

The best way to make money on Etsy is to the buy the stock when it goes low and sell when it goes high.

[@shimmymorris1]

haha

[@FedSher]

I'M ON for a Shopify, already spent enough time around marketplaces... did make some money but it has decreased now. TIME FOR AN UPGRADE 👊💥

[@bloochoob]

I will never rely on these platforms, build your own site and spend your marketing business time marketing towards yourself, not towards a site that buries you and doesn’t promote you or answer you, and takes far too much of your money.

[@everay1846]

Charging 15USD for new shops is not the worst. The worst will be when Chinese sellers can sell on Etsy.

[@High-lyMotivated]

Aren't they already? 😭🤣

[@karenl8837]

There’s already Chinese sellers on Etsy. There’s also scammy sellers from every country, it’s not exclusive to China

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

That's literally what pod is for many 😂

[@Sprinklesandstickley]

You mean resellers?? They can be any race and there are actual Chinese hand made sellers.

[@michaellipscomb9116]

I'm glad I seen this. I was thinking of starting an Etsy shop, but this changed my mind. It's hard enough starting a shop/ business and now these greedy bastards pull this crap.

[@craftsmanceramics8653]

Don't worry, it's not like you were going to have any success 😂😂

[@drinksavers3302]

How do you complain about $15/mo or .20 per listing costs? My first personalization company cost me $150k to start! I spent $60k-$120k per year for my site alone. People are just so unbelievable today. Expecting a $0 cost to start a business is 100% foolish. Having a cost keeps millions of clutter bugs out of the pool! Why would you want millions of baf competitors pushing your listings down. GL

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

Half of all americans are living in poverty, every fucking dollar matters when it's stolen

[@lisaviner4134]

I have heard of people opening new Etsy shops now which are then immediately suspended.

[@craftsmanceramics8653]

It may come as a shock, but most these people deserve their bans.

[@richardglenn8378]

That was my experience. Opened a new shop they kept asking for more ID which I sent suddenly out if the blue permanently suspended. Appeal denied of course no explanation.

[@melanieklarofficial]

Wait-How do you get free listings??

[@arielforeman2004]

I opened a new shop earlier this month. 1. They’re holding my funds for 20 business days after purchase. 2. They keep suspending my shop then stating “computer error”. It’s getting quite frustrating.

[@Jeniveve]

I’m happy about these changes. Helps keep trash, and trash sellers off the platform. What else is wild? People thinking they can start a business for zero dollars.

[@shimmymorris1]

ye that's true!

[@annecreager9022]

They just put a reserve on my account and are only giving me 70% of my funds. How are we supposed to do that when we have to pay printify. It's not like we have the inventory to send

[@wealthcreationlabs]

It will expire after your first 90 days. My old Etsy shops didn’t have payment reserves but the ones I made recently do. It doesn’t affect digital shops. Payments are only released once it’s “marked delivered” and the customer ensures they received and like the product. eBay did “payment reserves” for a long time. I wasn’t surprised by it because PayPal held my money from eBay 😂 but it is annoying for people who have to ship because shipping charges are higher now. You can use “pirate ship” to save a little money but it’s still a major expense for new sellers. Especially on top of seller fees and taxes.

[@tamwellwell9720]

I used to be sell art print on etsy, almost 9 yrs. I printed all the small size prints at home, for the large print i sent it out to a local print shop, and i pack and post all by myself. In fact the profit is very good. I dont like POD companies, they took a large percentages of the total, it seems artists work for them. Not worth. Since pod companies step to etsy, my sales drop a lot.

[@flickwtchr]

@wyi56hzuk75f Lower barrier of entry flooded the market.

[@fictionaddiction4706]

Question: Do you have to advertise on social media when you're selling on ETSY? so that is asides from the etsy ads expense? Because if that was the case, then wouldn't Etsy be just a platform to put things on like Amazon or a normal site? Why bother when you have to market things yourself, couldn't someone just create a facebook page and list their products there and get a higher profit margin?

[@shimmymorris1]

No, etsy has hundreds of millions of visitors a month, you can rely on organic traffic if you wanted, it's just a lot harder and a lot slower.

[@theinkandpapershop]

IF ETSY HOLDS THE SELLER'S FUNDS AREN'T THEY LEGALLY REQUIRED TO PAY OUT ANY INTEREST THEY ARE ACCRUING FOR HOLDING THAT MONEY? Banks have to when you hold your money into a savings account. Even Landlords in certain states that are holding Tenant security deposits in a savings account have to pay out the interest accrued. (I think that's in California, not 100%)

[@eurekaelephant2714]

Witholding of other people's money rubs me up the wrong way, especially in this day and age when thats food on peoples table they are literally withholding. I read here they were legally challenged on it. Good. I personally cant see how its legal to withold others profit, no matter what the purpose. Also if they are making interest on it, that is literally stealing. I still intend to give it my best shot, and hoping this is not the start of Etsy's slippery slope to a big corporate end.

[@shimmymorris1]

i hope so too! and i hope they change the withholding money situation

[@ito8082]

I know PayPal does garbage like this. And they can straight up seize your funds sometimes too.

[@flickwtchr]

They are already "big corporate".

[@AmbientDreamEscapes]

Can anyone suggest another place to sell such products please.

[@Роман-д7о4с]

Thanks for the interesting content. Yes, it will be very useful and interesting information on Shopify and creating Print on Demand stores on this platform. Very much looking forward to this content!

[@shimmymorris1]

Glad it was helpful!

[@teenad9672]

Do you need to be registered for an EIN or Tax ID here in the states to sell with Esty or Shopify or Amazon platforms?

[@iolanda7791]

Hi! I was joining the community, but I am banned for no reason, I had just the time to put my name, upload a photo and bio, and country.. 😅 It must have been a mistake

[@shimmymorris1]

Oh that’s odd. I haven’t banned anyone yet. If you answered all the questions then you’ll soon be accepted. I just haven’t gone through all the requests yet

[@MissMolly3377]

That just happened to me on a different social media platform. I emailed them, and they answered within 20 minutes and fixed it. They thought I was a bot, apparently. 😂 Shimmy is awesome, so he will get you in.

[@i.Motivi]

Like @iolanda7791, I was banned. What should I do? What is the email address for support. Thank you.

[@XLCuban]

Etsy reminded me of eBay and Amazon marketplace back in the early days but it seems the mom and pop stores will be squeezed out of this marketplace as well. Corporations and scammers will take over most of the listings like they usually do and drive away the sellers that contributed most to the platforms original success. BTW scammers don't use their real ID so that requirement is probably for some type of tax reporting pretext if I had to guess based on history.

[@arkikali5632]

Eh. I'm not too worried about the $15. It's a fact that if people feel like they have some skin in the game, they'll generally be better "citizens." I mean, $15 to start a business is negligible. You'd probably pay that much to set up a lemonade stand. But maybe it'll discourage someone who just wants to game the system / get rich quick.

[@shimmymorris1]

ye that's very true!

[@sirenabella]

Wow you made it sound so dramatic I thought Etsy is not allowing POD anymore. These are beneficial updates to discourage or eliminate scammers. However I do agree with some comments here, Etsy doesn’t provide customer service for its sellers or will probably be sued for keeping someone’s 15$ without actually allowing them to be in business since they continuously ban new shops.

[@eriksnel6461]

I have been banned from etsy, not for print on demand products, but they never even bothered to tell me why exactly. A computer decided and no human could tell me why but the decision was final.

[@shimmymorris1]

Oh damn! That’s annoying. Usually when it’s an automatic ban from the computer a human reverses it. Sorry this hasn’t worked out for you

[@printitpaintit.2436]

I have a mini print farm and I print on commission but I've never had an Etsy store, just buy a couple of printers and make a website or buy one!! You answer to know one you learn and about the industry plus you can control the quality. Like if you can't see and check the final product then you shouldn't be selling in my opinion because it leads to returns and people buying crap.. How can someone that knows NOTHING about 3d printing and quality control just start drop shipping via a 3rd party, it just seems like a bad idea to me and it's drop shipping garbage that's hut Amazon's reputation..

[@richardjones8236]

I am no fan of Etsy management and customer support. But in this case I see some benefit and am not put off. Charging shops to get started is a great way to reduce scam accounts. Also, holding money until they are sure of your legitimacy as a seller doesn't bother me. It's true, Etsy is struggling. Their last Quarter results were bad. We an expect the stock price to drop even further. This is one of the reasons they have opened up the platform to China.

[@shimmymorris1]

You make some excellent points!!

[@MissMolly3377]

I believe they did that because they opened the market to China. Since only certain countries/sellers will have to pay…notice, they decided to start charging $15, and three weeks later opened it up to China. That is who they will charge, and China will turn Etsy into the next Amazon drop-shipping central. Sure, there will be some actual creative people, now too, they’re some of the most creative people I have seen, but a lot of it will be drop shipped junk. So, I feel bad for handmade sellers, and true artists, because of all the ai and now this. 🤦‍♀️ For someone to sell AI on there, I don’t know how they can say it is handmade. Many of them don’t even have the errors fixed, or they don’t add a human touch to it, so I am not sure how they can sell any of that as handmade…they type a few words into a computer, they don’t do anything else, except type a few words. Actually, they even have a Chat bot to write the prompts, then they copy and paste. SMH. And, they actually teach people how to do that, on top of it all. I don’t think $15 is bad, because other places charge a monthly fee, but I do think it is why they did that before opening up to China, because that is who they are targeting with the $15, I think. Maybe they think it will stop scammers and drop shippers, but it won’t, it’s going to get wild, now. I won’t even shop on Etsy, at this point, since it’s all garbage, you have to sift through so much garbage and bad designs, now, before you can get to the actual handmade, hand painted, stuff.

[@peach_cobbler]

@@MissMolly3377I think you are too worried about AI on Etsy. The reality is that AI isn’t stealing most of the sales on the platform. Etsy was incredibly competitive before AI and it still is now.

[@jameezybreezy9030]

@@MissMolly3377 wtf is a “human touch.” It sounds like you’re trying to cope with the fact that AI can make better art than a lot of artists.

[@hb4196]

@@jameezybreezy9030 yeah it "makes art" by scraping (aka stealing) and rearranging art from real artists.

[@harissablanche1249]

As usual play speed 1.5x.😅

[@shimmymorris1]

haha

[@samyousef2024]

Hi man i have sing up for your community but is saying membership pending what does that mean

[@shimmymorris1]

hey, i need to go through all requests and manually accept :D

[@samyousef2024]

@@shimmymorris1 oh ok man take your time just to know I like your channel happy to be part of your community

[@nonsookoye3163]

You're a scammer that's why. Typo errors shows you're not even in the US

[@ilovesuisse1]

Etsy are probably making interest on your money.

[@shimmymorris1]

nothing would surprise me anymore

[@kelly6739]

make no mistake someone at etsy, looked at all the money going straight out and was thinking stuff this. Hold back lets make a ton of money in interest.

[@anikeshagrawal4718]

Can you make a tutorial on Wix print on demand

[@shimmymorris1]

i'll look into it

[@anikeshagrawal4718]

@@shimmymorris1 Thank you

[@krayzmitchell505]

I’m sorry but I’m confused… why would you need to pay printify? Isn’t it POD? Am I missing something? I’m new to this but I have my POD linked to Etsy and I thought it was on auto with purchases that way. Are you saying Etsy wont release the money to the print company so you have to pay it yourself manually?

[@shimmymorris1]

So the way it works is. Customer pays you via Etsy. (Etsy hold your money) You pay printify to print and ship the product After a few days Etsy released your money to you.

[@brittlands117]

@@shimmymorris1 you also pay Printify for the actual product.

[@blackfeathercrafts]

I don't think print on demand belongs on Etsy. It was supposed to be a platform for handcrafted goods. You guys ruined the platform.

[@easyislander]

OMG Etsy is shotting themselves with these changes. How is someone supposedly supposedly start making money when we don't even know why they are going to pay us?

[@shimmymorris1]

ye that's the one that annoyed me most, not knowing when you'll get paid

[@Saintly2]

Holding funds? Interest! 💰 Definitely for the money.

[@shimmymorris1]

nothing would surprise me!

[@Justin_W]

Thanks for another great video! I've just signed up to your new community and looking forward to participating! When I first started on Etsy a few years back, they were holding my money for a week or two before paying me. So, I'm not entirely sure what's new here. I'm in favor of the more stringent background checks, especially in light of Etsy seeming to get ready to open up their platform to China again. Chinese sellers are notorious for selling fakes, copies, and things of that nature. There are loads of honest Chinese sellers for sure, but it's a well-known fact that there are also loads that are willing to be unscrupulous with the products they sell. The last point is a money-grab for sure. As you say, they aren't setting anything up. We are doing all the work, and to be honest, its a bit tedious! Haha! I'm not entirely happy with Etsy, especially the lack of control wuth their advertising, but I'll keep my shop open and I have plenty of free listings available to me, so...

[@shimmymorris1]

Thank you! Glad you liked the video. Interesting! Ye opening doors to china was a real shock. I guess we'll see how that one pans out

[@shmand]

$15 setup is chepaer than a trip for 1 person to Chipotle. The verification process isnt a big deal. These issues are not a big deal...... If you cant handle Etsy making updates like this. Good luck in life lol.

[@DavidinDetroit8157]

Pro-tip, don't waste my time telling me WHAT you're GOING to tell me, and just..........tell me. 😊

[@IkkaDoes]

Do somebody know alternative to etsy?

[@shimmymorris1]

have you considered amazon?

[@nikos-giorgos]

15$ is not much.

[@1powelrainbow2]

Im surprised you didnt mentioned the now allowance for Chinese businesses to sell on Etsy, I think this is the real killer. No one will be able to compete with a company that might sell your type of goods for 10% of your price range. And most likely because these Chinese products are not hand made, more like factory made compared to Etsy's policy on hand made goods

[@karenl8837]

And they did mention about Chinese sellers.

[@shimmymorris1]

yea it's going to be very tough

[@TheRaintree46]

you should absolutely have to provide id

[@shimmymorris1]

ye that's true!

[@marias2746]

Etsy would make interest on everyone’s money lol

[@CherrineShortdy]

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[@mongobaer]

the problem grew out of the trash sellers fuelled by youtubers telling people how easy it is to get rich with a few clicks.

[@shimmymorris1]

Yup most likely! I get very annoyed at people saying how easy it is! No one actually thinks it’s easy!

[@dtown313]

Holy hell get to the point.

[@CambiandoTuVidaParaBien]

This is crazy 😢 looks like a scam 😮

[@shimmymorris1]

it's a shame but def not a scam

[@zenmode88]

Buyers don't trust Shopify no matter how much Ad spend.

[@shimmymorris1]

what is that based on?

[@zenmode88]

@@shimmymorris1 There's nothing you can do to match Etsy's buyer protection. Anything goes wrong they'll fix it. Safety is number #1 concern with Etsy shoppers. You might have sales from Facebook but guaranteed you'll not get any from Etsy.

[@TheAlchemistsBrewery]

Your nose is huge!

[@shimmymorris1]

hahahaha, why thank you. I do try hard

[@heavenonthehorizon777]

Seeing these at sea stocks is sad astonishing. And it actually makes me angry because it just proves that all the COVID money that was handed out to people to be lazy to stay at home. Did not go to pay bills. It did not go to child care it did not go to putting food on the table. It went for them to buy products off of Etsy which is so sad and so ridiculous. So I'm happy to see the decline. Even though I am a seller on Etsy it's gross. I can't believe we are in a country full of people taking other people's money to go on a website and buy themselves something pretty or something to wear like a sweatshirt or a teeth. It's shameful, I'm ashamed of my American neighbors I. Enjoy seeing the decline. Thank you for your video first time here.

[@simplyrelaxedvideos]

I don't so much have an issue with Etsy charging to open a shop...what I do have an issue with is that they are still shutting down and banning shops right when they open and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it because there really is no customer service for sellers. I belong to several Etsy FB groups and this is a pretty big issue right now. Holding funds for new sellers - I understand that to a point, but once you've entered tracking, those funds should automatically be released. I have a digital shop that they put a reserve on my account for 3 months - that one pissed me off. The customer gets their download immediately and I had to wait until Etsy decided to release those funds (not a new shop & I had a 5 start rating at the time as well). My thought is they are banking those funds and earning interest on it. Think about how much interest they'd make over a month or year doing that.

[@LL-ex1gp]

Exactly it’s ridiculous the way Etsy handles things.

[@shimmymorris1]

that's crazy they held for so long! I don't understand what gives them the right to do it. Why aren't more people suing them!

[@billwilliams4281]

I just started my store within the last two months and I've noticed those very issues. I GET the holding funds thing, but I don't get that one of the requirements to be met for release of funds is a tracking number and/or shipping information is updated. Those requirements are met by the POD site that I use, but the funds are still being held for a little bit. It's not a huge deal because the funds are released fairly quickly, but I just wonder about it all since requirements are being met. Unless I am supposed to enter that tracking number stuff somewhere manually.

[@cpnoboat7659]

​@@billwilliams4281My guess is they want to be sure buyers receive an actual product. My brother recently made a purchase and he received an empty box. He had the tracking number and everything, but then inside the box there was only bubble wrap :/

[@melissad1608]

I have experienced this very issue. My shop was open for 3 months and within a few days of making my first sale it was shut down for "violating Etsy's seller terms" or something but I have never been given a detailed or specific reason or violation. They are still holding my money from that sale. Apparently, if your shop gets closed/banned they prohibit you from ever selling OR shopping on Etsy's platform forever? It's all beyond ridiculous. I had already opened a shop via Shopify so that's where I sell now and it's a much better experience as they have so many options to help grow and market your brand.

[@Perfectflight-i3f]

Non-refundable $15 for the slim chance of being allowed to sell on Etsy? How many stories do y'all need to hear about Etsy closing accounts before a product is even offered? And, NO customer service. Be brave, move on.

[@StopTheWorld65]

How many companies will provide you with the opportunity to start your own business for a mere $15?

[@Perfectflight-i3f]

@@StopTheWorld65 What company charges $15 to then quickly close your account with no customer service or feedback? Umm, Etsy? Here's a silly idea: "Hello valued seller! It seems we've experienced a glitch regarding your account. We are here for you to help resolve this moving forward." Apparently ghosting is the new customer service model.

[@justbdsd4569]

@@StopTheWorld65 But they keep the money and you have to still fulfill orders and you can't tell when you get pay after.

[@StopTheWorld65]

@@justbdsd4569 Right. They want to make sure new sellers aren't fly-by-night.

[@shimmymorris1]

ye this was my biggest concern. Someone paying, then getting banned with no cause

[@SpeedbirdHeavy]

Etsy has been holding funds on reserve for some time. They were even legally challenged for it by a UK consumer organization last year. As a result of which they have reduced the amount they hold.

[@shimmymorris1]

that's good!

[@UKM-13]

Etsy should not be holding your money if they already approved your account after uploading documents. I don't care what excuse they give, this is not right.

[@angellight9500]

allowing Chinese sellers to sell on Etsy is the end for Etsy sellers. Shopify here i come.

[@42Maat]

100%

[@xxo5294]

Because they’re Chinese? I think you need to elaborate.

[@ritagreenwood9397]

You mean Chinese mass market products? Otherwise, your comment is incredibly racist.

[@angellight9500]

@@ritagreenwood9397 oh how very woke of you Rita......seeing racists wherever you look. That's your issue not mine.

[@ritagreenwood9397]

@angellight9500 Yes, Karen. I tend to see things that are actually there. 🙄 Bet you think everyone in China works for Aliexpress, and there are no crafters whatsoever? Let's put this one down to your lack of education, resulting in poor grammatical skills. Or your blatant racist comment. Go back and read what you wrote. Then you'll understand. You're welcome!

[@emerislinmer]

You cant even hardly by a sandwich for $15 these days. Not a big deal really. Allowing Chinese sellers to sell on Etsy...kiss Etsy goodbye.

[@shimmymorris1]

ye I guess that's a lot worse

[@thisisadebrown]

So what we’re really heading towards is doing your own store and marketing, it seems like the way forward

[@paulgollum1]

The way they treat their sellers is nothing short of criminal. They are nigh on impossible to contact, they fail to listen and act like judge, jury and executioner. I had my shop permanently shut down, with no ability open to me to appeal. And yet, there are thousands of Etsy shops committing the same 'offence' daily - and Etsy turns a blind eye to it - because they're making big bucks out of them. And as for it being a site for handmade items? Utter bollocks - it's no different to eBay. A horrible, faceless example of USA corporate greed and hypocrisy.

[@showtell6292]

oh my God I’m a new seller as well and I agree with you. I have a good perception because I just started and that’s what I see. I feel like a criminal. I hear all the stories, and it did happen to me that they held my money, and my father had to bail me out in the very beginning because I got suddenly bombarded with orders and it was my first time and I didn’t know what to do but now seeing everything that’s going on it’s like pulling teeth to get seen to know this to know that they don’t inform you about anything they don’t answer any questions it’s like horrible the way they treat sellers on this platform and because most of us are you know kind of desperate to make money in this world and he got economy they’re taking advantage of us like everything else that’s wrong, that’s my opinion

[@nickyperryman2683]

I totally agree. Their original ethos died years ago.

[@jonahblock]

Print on demons ruined Etsy in the first place. It used to be a place for hand made stuff. Now it’s a grave yard of ai generated art

[@intentionally-blank]

Etsy isn't smart enough to make distinct marketplaces.

[@joiunique9699]

😐you are right...

[@belindaroadley]

Yup, try finding a handmade ceramic mug that ISN'T POD or a temu/alibaba product

[@cz8587]

@@belindaroadley Totally. I make ceramic mugs (for fun, not for sale) and the price I'd have to charge for them on Etsy would make them unsellable. People on Etsy want cheap items, not handmade. I started selling handmade items on Etsy in 2005 and it was such a great place w so many rad handmade items. Now it's a portal for cheap sh1t made in countries utilizing slave labor. YUCK!

[@rsimier]

So Etsy will keep the customer’s money into a bank account instead of sending it to you when received. Meaning Etsy will have that bank account with your money, maybe millions, for a week or two and by the time they sent you your money they will get more from the new sales…now making interest on your sales!

[@theinkandpapershop]

Not sure about that, so yes that is my question above when I commented: "IF ETSY HOLDS THE SELLER'S FUNDS AREN'T THEY LEGALLY REQUIRED TO PAY OUT ANY INTEREST THEY ARE ACCRUING FOR HOLDING THAT MONEY? Banks have to when you hold your money into a savings account. Even Landlords in certain states that are holding Tenant security deposits in a savings account have to pay out the interest accrued. (I think that's in California, not 100%) " I would think if they are holding money indefinitely they would such as a security deposit because they would be accrusing interest for a certain period OVER time. Not sure if they are holding it temporarily such as a few days or a week or 2 though. Depends on federal or state laws. Poshmark does this - I don't get my profit UNTIL the Buyer confirms they received the item. If they DON'T.....Poshmark still automatically releases funds, I believe, after 3 days the item shows delivered.

[@tarabooartarmy3654]

Exactly. This is exactly why they are doing this. It’s not about protecting customers. It’s mainly about earning more money from interest. That’s why they’re holding on to such an exorbidant amount of money for such a ridiculously long time.

[@DivineMagickOccult]

It’s ganna be hard but I’m going to go with bonanza. While I’m not opposed to paying 15 start up, I don’t want to shell out and be banned immediately.

[@showtell6292]

I agree 150%. It happened to me. I started the shop for the first time and I was expecting to get a little bit of sales all of a sudden it would became a niche and my account got bombarded in the very beginning which I was happy because I made a lot of sales, but I almost didn’t have the money to pay personify. My father had to bill me out because Etsy held my money so it was horrible.

[@shimmymorris1]

ah that's annoying, but a good problem to have if you're getting all those sales

[@Robin_In_CA]

Thank you so much for this video. It was very helpful 😊

[@shimmymorris1]

You’re very welcome ☺️

[@tiagoreis5390]

Maybe the reason is because they are trying to remove the huge quantity of competitors on the platform. Its very hard to do a sale, for small creators that actually do the products themselves (that was the initial goal of ETSY). Handmade products made by real artists on their own... And now Is a platform that sells a lot of things not handmade or fulfilled by the shop owners.... This is my opinion and maybe I am wrong, but I feel that Etsy is no longer what it used to be (before all of this "businesses" with external parties and integrations were created)

[@shimmymorris1]

I think you’re right and this could actually be a good thing

[@MissMolly3377]

I don’t believe that. They’re bringing China in. I think they’re trying to get rid of the stores who are just copying off of all the other stores, because most of the Etsy gurus teach people to basically steal a best selling design, and slap it on a T-shirt or mug, instead of using your own creativity, and not stealing best sellers designs. So, now, they first said they were going to charge $15, then, next, they open it up to China, they’re going to get a lot of more sellers, who will have to pay that $15, and they will be creative and they will figure out a way to just drop ship. So, they’re getting rid of the stores that are doing the same old thing, so when China comes in, they will all have to pay the $15, and many of them will actually be creative, and the others will just do straight drop-shipping. Etsy really only cares about the money, not their sellers, unless they are big sellers.

[@richardackerberg5912]

Most fraudulent company on the Internet. We were sellers. Had a 4.9 out of 5 rating. Without any explanation removed our privileged. Had $2500 due us for orders. Cancelled all orders.

[@silverdentalcentre6374]

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[@islandwills2778]

Etsy should outright ban print on demand. I don't view it in any way as handmade

[@incredifall]

Etsy being greedy

[@InnovArtConcepts]

Happened to me and then they decided to not even allow me to open my shop, never even said why, just said „we decided to refuse your appeal, don’t contact us again“ Never saw my money again, never even learned why they wouldn’t allow my shop - worst customer service ever!!!!!!

[@danimotherofchickens479]

Sue them

[@xy7starlight]

Yes, the holding of the money gets in the way but you haven't mentioned one Etsy policy that is the most confusing and potentially most disasterous. It's their mockups policy which states that it has to be a picture of the exact product, meanwhile most, if not all say T-shirt sellers that are successful use fancy mockups that Etsy randomly closes the shops for, while letting the rest live under the fear of getting banned anytime. And if you don't use the fancy mockups there is no chance of competing, so it's a catch 22 and not a dependable business model at all. And then if you even want to buy that print on demand stuff from your Etsy shop to make the picture - you can not, because Etsy forbids buying own products from the shop :-) So I have been thinking about opening an Etsy shop but those things make me feel so jittery that I haven't gotten past the point of registering.

[@shimmymorris1]

You can buy your own product directly from the printing partner, that'll also save you a bunch of money. That's if you wanted to take your own pictures. Mockups is a massive deal and i'll make a video on that so everyone is aware

[@xy7starlight]

@@shimmymorris1 Thanks and I will look forward to your video on the mockups. I imagine that Etsy closes shop when someone complains that the shirt on the mockup did not look like the one they received because their policy is that it has to be an original shot. If there is lots of T-shirts listed, buying each for photo would be a huge expense. I heard some people make the mockup like 20% dimmer in photoshop so that would look more realistic, less likely to disappoint but still that's still operating under the Etsy's hammer that can drop at any moment so to speak. I wish they change that mockup rule.

[@Meluzina-qb5hg]

@@xy7starlight from what Ive heard, they ban accounts because some etsy bot thinks its a duplicate if you use the same mockup picture as other accounts - like the most of the picture is identical to other product pictures, except for the product itself

[@CindySimpson-h8o]

I agree with all your comments! I too would recommend staying with Etsy. Thank you for your thought and comments!

[@shimmymorris1]

100% thanks for watching!

[@ritagreenwood9397]

As someone who has had and run multiple Etsy stores for nearly 10 years (selling hand made items), this is another nail in the coffin, for the Etsy of old. My last two shops, even though they had been open for nearly a year, were suddenly hit with the imposed payment reservation of 45 days. Another was absurdly penalised for perhaps 'selling too quickly'. One of the vague possible reasons given. Etsy, will each new policy is pretty much giving the middle finger to the craftsmen and women that got it to where it is today. Now, it's just another corporation that thinks it is too big to fail. Hope the crafters have the last laugh on this one.

[@melreadjoy17]

I was planning to start an Etsy print on demand shop but stopped because of all the suspensions and lack of customer service. I am interested in learning more about Shopify

[@lisamcgee8535]

Etsy sucks 😂

[@LL-ex1gp]

If you can’t afford to set up a shop for $15 maybe you can’t afford to be running a business either. The bigger concern for me is keeping the money so long and the way Etsy does business. It’s like the other person who commented about what if you put the money into it and they decide to suspend you? Especially since they usually don’t tell you why. Or be able to reach an actual person at Etsy. So they let people open shops, cancel and keep the money? Maybe? Maybe it’s a reach but who knows w the way they work lately.

[@shimmymorris1]

ye that was my biggest concern too

[@joiunique9699]

it’s not bad that they make a payment of $15, but they use artificial intelligence for the service and it’s terrible... although if you heard, then Amazon was cunning, instead of AI, they used a bunch of Indians behind monitors and tracked customers in Whole Foods is ridiculous..

[@michaelh9667]

Made 200k + on Etsy in the last 3 years. Don't know why your all whining

[@flickwtchr]

Well congratulations michael. How does it feel to diminish everyone else's experience except your own. Bit of an elitist snob, eh? Shop name please so I can avoid it.

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

Why make a fake profile? 😂

[@NotThatOlivia]

all 3 changes are great for POD on Etsy - less scammy competition (and Etsy never was about making money without any money anyway!)

[@shimmymorris1]

That’s true!!!

[@NotThatOlivia]

@@shimmymorris1

[@StopTheWorld65]

Agree. Younger people who grew up in the Etsy era don't understand it's unrealistic to start a business with no capital.

[@DroidDude-jz8yz]

​@@StopTheWorld65 I hope you are not DEFENDING the ideal of there being businesses that are very low-cost or free to start. You are a disgusting person if you are.

[@nianatura]

@@StopTheWorld65true in a sense but should be possible bc of what’s happening

[@NightTimeCrafts]

Yes please I'd love more content about Amazon Merch. I'd be awesome if you could also talk about the differences between setting up a store in the USA vs Australia vs Europe. Personally I can't find any KZbin content for Australians and setting up anything from here is always the biggest nightmare. Thanks in advance 😊

[@shimmymorris1]

good idea! I'm not from Australia but I could definitely make some content for you

[@melanieklarofficial]

I actually think all of these changes are very good. $15 is minimal. Who starts 10 shops at once? What kind of real business can you start with $15? That is super cheap but it will prevent scammers. I like that they seem to be trying to weed out the scammers so it can be real artisans again which is what Etsy is supposed to be all about.

[@foxparkerx]

Etsy inst meant for ppl to dropship over priced garbage.. thats why

[@HWWillner]

Sounds like its much more than that. Theyve allowed digital products and various types of shops for a long while, many sucesses..so who deems it crap? Cuz Im sure many here and all over tell a diff story. At min tgey need to tell people the type of violation if in fact there was one.

[@glaeli1184]

@@HWWillnerthink the comment was speaking about dropshipping garbage brought from AliExpress which is what’s ruining Etsy for everyone

[@jodydavis6238]

Etsy was originally for homemade, crafted items. Print on demand is not. Neither are resellers. It is a huge mess and true artists have a difficult time competing there.

[@chipcook5346]

Sure, there is no competitor as large, but what are the best alternatives and what are their terms?

[@shimmymorris1]

I think setting up your own store is the best alternative. you make your own terms

[@megawukhan]

I don't like it but its simple really. Etsy isn't wanting to be the people who are " automatically fulfilling " the order. So they want to make sure you're not someone broke and trying to make money a free way. Its lazy and hypocritical, especially because that's one of the main reasons Etsy is even popular. Its a place to sell your ideas. Though i still understand them not wanting to be the middle man with POD., its risky. If it weren't we would see all the major non passive PODs using passive or automatic fulfilling methods. This just proves that ultimately its best to spend a little money to make a little money. Hard work generates better results.

[@user-cdr123]

'These changes are going to put people off'. From a selfish perspective i'm hearing only good things from these changes - people have to have an actual plan and fund for POD rather than relying on paycheck to paycheck ? Good. They're charging a 'entrance fee' to use their platform? Good. You have to prove who you are to an established company (just like you do at any company). again.. good. . i'm not sure its just stock price issues in a period of economic uncertainty. Its that too many people have got on these platforms and filled them up with crap. Thee's no incentive for them to let 'anyone'. They can (and should) be selective. Might sound harsh but if a $15 entry fee and having to have some reserve cash to manage the first orders (which won't be that many anyway unless you're extremely lucky) then you're not suitable to try to run a business.

[@wendyfarrowartist]

Poor grammar or more likely intentionally misleading… should say “to ensure THAT sellers who are just getting started can fulfil their orders” the missing ‘that’ is understood under the self-serving interpretation and at the same time can be quickly read by the seller as something meant to help them, while the ‘can’ actually means that Etsy wants to know that the seller can indeed fulfil the order with existing cash flow (word scamming) - the difference is that they (Etsy) are the ones being ensured that the transaction is fulfilled and but not by providing cash flow which would of course help the seller, rather by holding money hostage in order to ‘ensure’ it all happens and technically ensuring that a refund can take place if necessary - either very cleverly written to confuse the two transactional issues, or sloppily written. I suspect the former.

[@sundance2005]

It might be good but I don't think what Etsy has become is worth the trouble or the $15 you pay now UNRFUNDABLE just to have your store shut down a day or two later, fuck them.

[@lauradecker4213]

I am a newbie to this kind of business and I would definitely be down for more info on how to do a Shopify store from a reliable and trustworthy person such as yourself, Mr. Morris.

[@markatkinson813]

So perhaps the dim bulb marketing genius that tanked Bud Light is now working for Etsy. Piss on Etsy. If they want to make improvements, get rid of the no talent A.I. art fakers out there that are clogging the platforms.

[@markstevenson8209]

Greed, greed, greedy, that's what all of these companies become once all of those sellers make them rich. It seems like Etsy is doing everything in their power to improve their profit margin and make life for their seller's hell. At least for all of the new sellers who are just getting started.

[@johnbeima6413]

This is actually an extremely GOOD thing for Etsy to do. Helps to get rid of all the low ball stores… If you can’t afford $15 to setup a store and the ability to pre-pay for 10-20 orders then you should NOT be running a quote quote business. You have bigger things to worry about. Most companies don’t pay for 30 days. Additionally this helps to drop bank transaction fees, with less, all be it larger payouts.

[@shimmymorris1]

yea that's true as well

[@ThinkItThroo]

Agreed. Everyone should be doing this and I don't think they are doing enough. If you're going to run a business you need to be prepared to run a business and you should be bringing value. Making it so easy to sell junk destroys the market and makes it challenging for consumers who now have to navigate a jungle of money grabbers. I hope at some point we bring law that prevents sellers from pretending they invented products that they found in a browsing session the night before.

[@vicefaun2316]

i literally just paid the $15 non refundable fee and my listings got removed for not being handmade 😐 even though they were 😐

[@khaledsmatte7379]

I think that the first two updates have compelling reasons, given the increasing number of multiple account scammers, and to ensure that the goods reach the customer, but the last is illogical and unfair.

[@deliacareygo4800]

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[@ercanyilmaz8108]

It looks like that we have to put our middle finger to Etsy and migrate to another platform.

[@loriherdz862]

Invasion of privacy do not give Etsy your personal information!!! Do not fall for it!

[@freeinghumanitynow]

Sounds like Etsy has decided to get into the scamming game. Pathetic.

[@jameshurley224]

There's a print on demand commercial before this video

[@Sprinklesandstickley]

I just opened a shop and it was $30...

[@VivianGarza-g3k]

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[@TheMinipea]

ain't helping small business cash flow

[@xxo5294]

Just when I thought I was gona get rich quick

[@Robin_In_CA]

I would be interested in learning how to set up a shopify POD website, depending on the cost. With an estimated $300 to set up and promote my Shopify store, it could become quite expensive.

[@shimmymorris1]

Awesome! Have you joined the free community to start? The first announcement will be in there

[@type88radio]

Etsy fell off.