EU and Latin American Mercosur bloc struggle to reach a trade deal | DW News

[@Blankarte]

Como producto de la historia, ahora primero son nuestros intereses Latinoamericanos. Bienvenidos a su nueva realidad, Europa. As a byproduct of history, first come our Latin American interests. Welcome to your new reality, Europe.

[@firemage89]

As always, Europe wants to get the biggest piece of the cake and leave crumbs to Latin America. Enough with colonialism and opportunistic practices of European bandits. I hope the deal never happens.

[@dxd42]

What is the link between the Ukraine war and trade between the EU and Mercosur? This agreement will be mutual benefits as the EU needs clean energy for its industry and South America has a lot of potential, on the other hand, the Mercosur will benefit from local development and investments. The blockers are the European agribusiness that wants to impose the price of food in Europe, even if it causes inflation in the continent.

[@toyotaprius79]

Potential? There's no potential for locals in Latin America. Just more foreign money extracting more than what they're putting in. It's not like that's anything new there.

[@ARES-zf5fz]

@@John-.-SmithRussia is not our enemy after all

[@alvaroludolf]

@@John-.-Smith And French Guiana is not even a country, it is just a region of France.

[@mleinternationalW]

EU has nothing Latin America can't get in time. Expecting fair deal with the garden is hubris.

[@seanlander9321]

Same with Australia who have endured punitive trade embargoes by Europe for generations.

[@generalleand903]

Australia better deal with ASEAN rather than EU. More realistic and fair trade

[@seanlander9321]

@@generalleand903 Agreed. The Europeans are treacherous liars and cheats.

[@marcioborgesreis9066]

​@@generalleand903 its not like they have to choose one or the other.

[@generalleand903]

@@marcioborgesreis9066 human always have a choose and could be diciding with who they need to corporate with. Australia geographically more closer to the ASEAN than European Continental

[@jecabrer]

I hope they protect the food sector. Investment in food can affect food security in Latin America. They cannot prefer to sell to Europe and increase the local cost. Europe does not even allows us to go there without a hard to get VISA. Deforestation is connected with agriculture, Brazil needs to protect the amazon and We need to support that.

[@toyotaprius79]

Those who profit the most pollute the most.

[@RCTBR33]

Brazilians can visit EU without VISA

[@Skyvlk]

@@RCTBR33 Correct. Most South American countries can.

[@jecabrer]

@@RCTBR33 Brazil is not the only country in UNASUR

[@RCTBR33]

@@jecabrer then don’t generalize the use of “us”

[@matheus_hms]

This agreement is unlikely to be finalized in the short term. Both sides have concerns about its implementation. On the European Union side, there are farmers who fear being flooded by South American products and on the other hand, there is Mercosur, who fear competition from European industrialized products. In the end, both will have to give in if they want to reach some agreement. Furthermore, I see Mercosur in an advantageous position, because whether they like it or not, they were less affected by the war in Ukraine than Europe.

[@ZZ-oc2eb]

Well said. In the end thanks to South America’s not intervening in the Ukraine war they have the upper hand truly. Hope they realize that. Nowadays countries that were former colonies are beginning to wake up in its politics and self identity and not rely constantly on Europe which in the end is so beneficial to everyone. But rich Europeans will not like that as their riches will be cut off so I fear for former colonies as a result of that if it leads to corrupt war.

[@joaocerceau5810]

The developed side give away 2% of GDP, and 1% of employment. The poor side give away 12% of GDP and 20% of employment. And the sector to be empowered and become more rich are the abominations of the local elites, feudal lord who will dump their own people into starvation, totally great, pretty equal term losses.

[@florianlinhart3782]

Such a deal can be beneficial for everyone, I think. But the basic rule might be the following: More competitive countries have less objection regarding such a trade deal and less competitive countries are more cautious regarding further globalization.

[@toyotaprius79]

You use the word "competitive" to hide the reality that is exploitation. A little history goes a long way in explaining why things are the way they are

[@florianlinhart3782]

@@toyotaprius79 So if let's say Chile is in favour of the proposed grain deal and France is more cautious... Does it mean that Chile is exploiting France? :)

[@joexavier2287]

I think they not going to sign any agreement 🤝

[@araara4746]

Hoping that western nations will be fair to developing countries in South America? Will the gardener be fair to the jungle dwellers?

[@alvaroludolf]

@@araara4746 Because Latin America is in the east, right?

[@happymelon7129]

Brazilian President Lula emphasized the importance of climate and environmental protection issues, but criticized the EU's relevant demands as "unacceptable" "interference in internal affairs", saying that "strategic partners should not hold the threat of sanctions and negotiate in an atmosphere of mutual distrust." , believes that Europe wants to use the agreement to "make South America forever a supplier of raw materials and minerals."

[@dxd42]

The problem here is that these sanctions for deforestation is an agressive addeddum. Brazil is committed to eliminate deforestation very soon.

[@marcioborgesreis9066]

EU does not want to contribute to a faster destruction of the Amazon forest .

[@GuimaraesBR910]

​@@dxd42, Deixa se mentir! Ano passado o Brasil matou recorde histórico de queimadas na Amazônia. Esse governo não está nenhum pouco preocupado com a Amazônia, assim como os europeus não estão. Do contrário, não teriam destruído toda a vegetação na Europa.

[@joexavier2287]

I really don't understand what Ukraine war got to do with this agreement 🤔

[@marcioborgesreis9066]

Ukraine is in Europe .

[@generalleand903]

Latin America, Southeast Asia, India, & African Countries need to consider that trade deal will also benefit each other in equality. Dont waste your time to deal if you find nothing and dictate by others like the colonialize power of EU. They strugle, but you all have duty to prosper your peoples than being rule out by EU ! you must see your National Interest.

[@marcioborgesreis9066]

That's condescending.

[@LA90598]

EU struggle to make a trade deal.... no surprise there

[@francogoogle1968]

La Unión Europea y LOS gringo dejen de mentir

[@happymelon7129]

EU already U$A vessel state ? 19-7-2023 President Emmanuel Macron questioned the European Commission's decision to appoint an American to such an important position in the EU, even saying that "neither China nor the United States would do this." Morton was appointed as the chief economist of the competition department. She will participate in the supervision of American companies and play a key role in evaluating issues such as antitrust investigations, mergers and acquisitions, and government subsidies. She may also make an important decision on the EU's promotion of the "Digital Market Act", which aims to restrict large platforms in the digital field such as social networks and search engines, and target technology giants Macron said that this move is not in line with Brussels' strategic autonomy goals. "Strategic autonomy means the need to think autonomously." He was surprised that the committee could not find an EU citizen for a relevant position. This may result in a conflict of interest. "This means we have very serious problems in all the academic systems in Europe. Neither the US nor China will allow something like this to happen."

[@araara4746]

Eventually Europe launched neo-colonialism in Latin America.

[@weeroger7048]

It wouldnt be 1 euro sirloin it will end taxed then 50 p cheaper End up you will be eating beef from brazil paying the same price for it

[@rosshilton]

The Australian FTA finally died in Osako over the weekend. goodbye to a rubbish deal.

[@MAZEA413]

we need a free trade agreement between the african union and the european union customs union

[@caribinvestv]

Do you believe that the Mercosur deal could be solved by 2025 during the next EU-CELAC Summit?

[@joexavier2287]

I can say,they never going to reach any agreement atleast this decade

[@giovannahiggins5903]

Merco sur should not make any deals with G7 they waites for years it is time to sign up with Brics

[@louistan7560]

The EU is desperate.

[@mleinternationalW]

It's starting to show isn't it😂

[@MAZEA413]

we need a free trade agreement between the African Union and the United States

[@gerry2762]

Support a rapid result. The cocaine trade deficit and supply links are getting serious

[@marisabenson1222]

The deforestation of the Amazon is a global concern that has already had an impact.

[@generalleand903]

Latin America better deal with ASEAN & Pasific Countries to build relationship in fair trade deal, than dictate by EU. They just want your interest rule out by them and your peoples get nothing than their personal interest and influences

[@rafasoares7]

@eduardocosta3382 ridiculous take. You don’t speak for other Brazilians who actually care about the greatest asset we have: the Amazon. So you be quiet.

[@Gus-cg9yp]

If they spread money to polititians they'll get whatever they want

[@toyotaprius79]

EPP and big agriculture

[@crumcon]

Any other continents beside North-America whom EU could trades without any hazzles?

[@rockstepguy3524]

You would get the same trouble everywhere, the reality is Europe will need a reliable food source now that Ukraine grain is at risk, the MERCOSUR is the only real place who can do that without too much problems, but France and agrobusiness around the EU are blocking the deal as much as they can so they can keep competition low. it would be great if the deal could be achieved soon for both parties (after 20 years of back and forth) , but it is Europe who has to move this time, not MERCOSUR.

[@Srt092]

​@@rockstepguy3524 The reason France and agrobusiness would block such a deal is because your first statement is simply incorrect.. Europe has a reliable food source for grain (and even more so for other agricultural products): Its own. Theres a large agricultural sector in the European Union, enough for its own consumption needs. But its true that some countries are cheaper, such as Ukraine and South America.

[@toyotaprius79]

Not unless we distance ourselves from US doctrine.

[@seanlander9321]

Australia us the continent that is still waiting for Europe to lift the punitive trade embargoes imposed on it for generations.

[@marcioborgesreis9066]

​@@seanlander9321 You just waiting ? That's the spirit 😂

[@troyano-vision]

Economic Development (Desarrollo Economico)

[@althyk]

Whats in this deal anyway?

[@glitch-pr3nr]

Multitudes in the valley of vision. God is not impressed by the leg of a horse😅

[@tomco43]

Donc nous on a rien a y gagner quoi c'est pk la fr veut pas mdr

[@ifahanifah7584]

😅😅

[@michaeltorio3459]

I went to the wrong future😱

[@paultaylor7947]

Busy wheeling and dealing lately . Its reaching fever pitch

[@hinthegroove9740]

The world is so small

[@kratosgow5010]

Solving the corruption problem in Brazil is the first step before any agreement. How can we (Brazilians) be an example to the world if we can't even solve our own problems? Lula (like many Brazilians) blame other countries for our problems, but does not act in favor of Brazil. China doesn't want partnership with Brazil, they want to take control of our resources. Chinese fishing boats continues to do illegal fishing in international waters close to Brazil and Argentina.

[@larissamello374]

We do not intend to be an example to the world. We are just trying to close a commercial deal. And in what concernes environmental issues there is no country greener than Brazil with 66% native forests and 85% renewable energy.

[@rafasoares7]

⁠@@larissamello374aving 66% of “native forests” means little if Brazil doesn’t fix its deforestation problem. Europe is right to ask for guarantees of environmental protections if Brazils environmental protections are subject to the whims of whoever gets in government. See what Bolsonaro did to the Amazon. It’s different now with Lula in power, but he won’t be the president forever. As a Brazilian, I 100% support the European concern. Maybe that’s what we need to enact concrete, permanent changes, to our institutional framework of environmental protections and keep our “66% of native forests” as they are.

[@tiosam6085]

Amigo brasilero! Estoy 100% de acuerdo con vos. Los Chinos quieren quedarse con nuestros recursos. Me duele ver como saquean nuestras aguas y nuestros políticos ni siquiera plantean el problema...

[@Baianoh]

What hypocrisy, as if European and American NGOs didn't do worse in the Forest Amazon.

[@gilh3947]

You can t bridge civilisation to non civilization in a short time 😅😅. I miss the iron curtain era. Globalism sucks.

[@paulomelo9322]

uncivilized is you! What a colonialist comment!

[@micaeloliveira2727]

We need to find our partners 😊 latin America is a good partner .

[@toyotaprius79]

I'd rather a democratic EU with good faith relationships with South America and the Carribbean But that's only possible when toxic US (and other colonial) chains are broken.

[@ARES-zf5fz]

Latin America is not the problem, Europe is the problem

[@WorldIsWierd]

@@ARES-zf5fz latin amer is always the problem

[@Elonmuskasseater69]

Oh no