EURO vs INDICATOR Nymphing, which is better?

[@pierevojzola9737]

Hi Johan, I have just watched Alex going out to catch King Fish. He hooked into a Kahawai and made the comment that “Thank God that Kahawai don’t grow to the same size as King-is, they would be impossible to catch!”. Reminds me watching you struggle with your Kahawai catching expedition. Cheers mate, have a good one. Harera

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

That's great, been looking forward to watching that. Kahawai are awesome fish. Tightlines

[@haydenstewart1659]

Nice one Johan. Must have been a good feeling leaving Auckland for the first time for a very long time. I think your smile on that first fish says it all.

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Oh it was so good. We were a bit silly excited as we walked to the river. Very happy with how the morning turned out as well

[@flytrout_nz]

Definitely has to add kiwi nymphing as another great method for fly fishing. Thanks Johan for bringing in and showing the differences.

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

I can see you set up with it soon. Looking forward to next week. Get some more great content made

[@Eazyedoesit]

Appreciate your content bro! I can't imagine what it was like to see fellow kiwis out there fishing whilst you were stuck in lockdown. Props to you for hanging in there and always engaging in the socials and with your subscribers. Also wicked to see you euro nymphing.

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thanks mate, it was a bit frustrating at times thats for sure but we got there in the end and we were super happy with the results of the day as well. Plenty more to come too. Thanks for waiting for fresh content. Plenty more to come.

[@pierevojzola9737]

Hi Johan, glad to see you in your natural element catching some lovely trout. It seems that the holiday break did not hamper your technique! I love this stream as it always surprises you with some big trout. Cheers mate, see you next year, I hope. Harera

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thanks Piere, after the first fish I stopped getting snags and bushes so much 😂 and started settling in again. This stream certainly holds some monsters, especially browns. Look forward to catching up some time in the new year.

[@schmoonkie]

Glad you're back to posting. Enjoyed the video.

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

That's very good to hear and more to come every week. Have a few filmed already and filming some more soon. Planning some good stuff over the summer. Thanks for sticking around

[@seafly845]

Hi, thanks for a lovely and entertaining view on the two types of fishing. I have not had great success with indicator fishing, I rather use my switch rod with a #6 Line. I have recently bought a 9‘9“ OPST switch rod in 3 weight, which will combine with my Traper GST reel with the euro Nymph line. I’m looking forward to trying it out to see what it can do, so I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I have taken note of your setup and will try it out as well. Many thanks, cheers.

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thats awesome thanks. Those OPST rods are nice. Let me know how it works for the euro setup. If never tried it for that.. If you will be using a euro flyline make sure you either keep your leader short enough never to have the junction with fly line inside the rod tip or use a superglue splice. Its the only way to join the leader to the flyline that allows it to go smoothly through the guides. I find a splice with 10 to 15 foot of 2x two tone indicator line or chameleon or something like that works well. If you use the Traper GST line it's a bit of a challenge as the core is very thin but it is doable. Tactical flyfisher has a great video about it.

[@mcl217]

Love the commitment - driving several hours then still getting there in the dark- another benefit of euro nymphing is you can use one fly only and increase the chances of getting those browns to the net. FYI there are some trevally schools around Auckland now

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Yup we left at 2am 🤣 and you are right about the single fly. Its tempting to always end up with two flies. What fly do you find works best for those browns? I got mine on a squirmy worm this time. I seem to find they go often go for strange things. I once got one on an egg pattern in the middle of summer. I cast it out of frustration after about 20 fly changes and it went over and grabbed it half a meter away after a wayward cast 🤣

[@rachelfoster7626]

Great to see you on the rivers again, congrats! "Got'em not Botttom" could be a t-shirt slogan!

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Haha might be indeed. It's so good to be back on the rivers. Long may it last so I can bring you some great content.

[@northyubaguideservice5501]

Great video. It's great to see you guys having such a good time. I always bring a couple of rods to mix up the methods. Euro always produces more fish. Some trolls will say 'isn't real fly fishing'. That's simple ignorance talking. Hope to visit your part of the world some day- it looks beautiful

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thanks very much. I hope you do make it here one day. We are very lucky with the fishing we have here. Fly fishing is such good fun with good friends and I always enjoy fishing different methods also bring multiple rods on trips. Each method has it's place.

[@HighcountryFlylife]

Top video mate. I just love these waters, some lovely fish caught. Your right on the indicator rig having more slack in the system and can be a hindrance some times when striking for takes. I use less of that rig these day and tend to go more dry dropper or naked nymphing mostly. I find you don't always get the right drift with indicator rig set up but for deeper pools where it's harder to see the fish I use it. They all have there strengths and weaknesses at the end of the day. You just do what your personal preference is, nobody else's. Nice work Johan

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thanks mate, much appreciated. It's amazing how quick fish can take and spit. We had on sight fished yester in shallow water with a dry dropper rig and it took and spat the nymph before the dry even moved. I watched it all from the bank as I filmed Pawel.

[@HighcountryFlylife]

​​ @Crazy About Fly Fishing Oh yeah, it doesn't take much, especially trout that have been pressured a little, they become sophisticated fish after a while and get good at dumping flies quickly

[@OnTheFlyNZ]

Nice video, good to see yourself and friends back into it. Must have been tough!

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Was tough mate, so good to be out again. Going to come get some browns down your way this summer.

[@OnTheFlyNZ]

@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Nice, good luck. Went for a brown sight fishing mission today on the Tong but the couple of chances I got I couldn't make them eat.

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Picky things ay.

[@rob3518]

I keep on trying to give more thumbs up this vid was so entertaining.

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Awesome thanks, have a look on my channel there are plenty more you might like too. Tight lines.

[@everythingflytv507]

Great video guys!!! Thank you for sharing. Euro, Indicator, Spey, they are all great ways to catch fish. I always recommend people to try it all and not knock a different style because they are all fun and have their advantages. Cheers!

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thanks you so much and I absolutely agree. I love learning and trying new methods and often fish with several different ones in a day depending on the situation and what I feel like.

[@srbinovsky]

Nice video! Where about is this?

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thanks mate, Rotorua, New Zealand

[@lewispeart2344]

Not a bad way to start the season off at all !

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

It was certainly a good start. Looking forward to lots more

[@geoffwebster4115]

Nice video Johan. The euronymph technique worked well in that tight little stream. You seem to fish small snaggy streams quite often, so a very good test of skill. I would be banned from your videos for cussing :)

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thanks 🤣🤣 that's what editing is for. After a few snags I generally let loose a bit 🤣🤣. These snaggy streams fish so well though and keep the fly shops and tiers happy.

[@flyfishingchannel]

Nice video!

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

[@tonyg3091]

Bosnian style-long nymphing is the best. Not for such tiny rivers tho...

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

Sounds interesting, will investigate. Thanks for sharing. We have some bigger rivers that should work.

[@tonyg3091]

@@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Yep, check it out. No indicators just the line. It is deadly when done properly.

[@Paora42]

Another great watch btw. Is just perfect with an espresso in bed!

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

That's awesome to hear. A few more already filmed and some more filming coming up soon so looks like I'm back on track for weekly content

[@jamessims5240]

Euro isn’t real fly fishing

[@CrazyAboutFlyFishing]

I can see your point, but define real fly fishing? Euro nymphing is considered fly fishing based on our local regs. As fly fishing grows and new methods are developed so changes the definition. I acknowledge the casting part is fairly different though but for the rest it is the same.

[@Paora42]

Interesting point. But does Euro style fly fishing have to be 'real' fly fishing?

[@OnTheFlyNZ]

Many in europe say the same about indicator nymphing. Many spey fisherman say the same about any type of nymphing. Unless your dressed in suspenders only fishing a single hand spey with a silk fly line then you have no real basis for that claim.

[@jamessims5240]

@@OnTheFlyNZ fair enough.

[@captainkoo]

@@Paora42exactly It doesn’t matter what you call it -as long as you’re having fun and catching fish