Origami Dripper: Is It Better Than V60 or Kalita?

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

What’s your favourite coffee dripper and why?

[@nadmanganiankutasu]

Plastic v60 cause it's cheap and hard to break.

[@coffeewithcarl1779]

April Brewer - Just brews delicious coffee

[@cajo1329]

Also the April Brewer - I love the bright, sweet and balanced Cup. The Flow Rate is much better to control than the Kalita-Series.

[@cajo1329]

@@coffeewithcarl1779 ❤️👍🏻

[@arief8945]

Origami

[@muhamadakmal7097]

I love Origami but for me I don't find big differences between Origami filter and V60. But one thing i found it interesting is when I change the paper filter hario and kalita wave, the taste is different in term of body and sweetness of the coffee. Now I change my coffee paper filter to ABACA TH-2 for medium roast bean and I found that my coffee is flavorful compare to Hario. So I'm wondering whether the design of the filter or the paper. But of course the design effect the flow rate. To me personally I just change the grind size according to which filter I wanna use. :)

[@klarinetta]

I use both the V60 and Wave papers. The Origami with V60 tfilter is slightly brighter than brewing with a V60 cone. With Wave filters I think it's a lot similar to Kalita Wave brewer with complex cup as it cools down but the Origami brings out more body and more balance vs. Kalita has more tea like body. Kenyan coffees can be exceptionally good with Kalita Wave and something like Costa Rica honey,natural and anaerobic processed comes out beautifully with Wave filter in the Origami.

[@slalomie]

Loved the helpful and objective review! I wholeheartedly agree with your points. The Origami dripper is pretty & comes in lots of fun colors, but it’s fragile & not ergonomic. There’s no handle, the base is sold separately & since the bottom is so narrow, it can easily tip over when placed standing up.

[@ruckus2439]

April´s recipe for Origami with a V60-filter is deffinitely my favorite so far

[@greysuit17]

I’m really enjoying that method with a chemex filter and I really like the wave version.

[@acupofperspective8429]

Finally! Origami content!🧡☕🔥🤗

[@coffeewithcarl1779]

Love the new set! I would probably brew more with V60 filters as the Kalita filters block the airflow leading to all sorts of problems :)

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

Cheers, Carl!

[@imranmalik7417]

Kalita papers work different on the origami. One solution is to stop the brewing process earlier. You will be surprised with the results.

[@juan2thepaab]

Yes it is fragile. I already broke one lol, I am on my second now. Interesting that Kalita Wave filters are slower, I thought that because of the flat bottom, the distance that the water travels from the top of the grounds to the bottom is shorter, so I thought it would be faster. I have not done a side by side comparison, but I feel like I got more flavorful brews using the cone shaped Origami filters. This is a great video and answered many of my questions, however I wish you included some recipes or brewing tips

[@Crovenko]

I have Hario V60-1 and V60-2. There is difference between these two - same coffee, same grinding size but different brewing time and different taste - interesting and fun. So I was thinking about month or so that I will buy origami and kalita drippers but only for slighty different preperation between these drippers (V60, Kalita, Origami) - more options is more fun for me and Im also thinking to get Fellow Stagg XF Pour-Over Set its not a cheap but why not, I will have a nice collection.

[@tomol5785]

Nice collection and some fun brewing! :)

[@JulienGaudfroy]

Not many people talk about this. Hario 01 and 02 are really different !

[@martinkostelansky5321]

Really? , could you please more. describe taste differences? Thanx

[@Crovenko]

@@martinkostelansky5321 both tasted very good but dont know the difference I tasted it month ago so I dont know if it was more/less acidm better body or so... :)

[@lakibadhikari7930]

TLDR Aesthetics: 9/10 Usability: 6/10 Pros: It can use several types of paper filters, both, Kalita and V60 Cons: It is difficult to say whether the change in flavour profile is absolutely down to design. Extra cost for holder $$

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

Thanks for a nice summary!!

[@lakibadhikari7930]

@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip 😁

[@sahirdiesh6386]

I see an increase in the quality of the video production

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

Good to hear you like it!

[@edinmanbiker]

Thank you for sharing this great video! Helps a lot!

[@osminmartinez6925]

Great review! Did I missed the recipe and grind size? I absolutely felt that my Origami upgraded my brewing game, specially with the Kalita filters

[@tomol5785]

You are right, we didn't want to go that much into a detail because we did so many tests, comparisons, recipes and different coffees... :D

[@nindythelittlebarista]

Origami and Kalita Glass 155 are my favourite..Both have faster flow rate compared to other drippers

[@RogerLiem]

i'm using Origamis S + Cone Filter + Original Lilydrip, superb tasting everytime.

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

I guess we should finally get the Lilydrip!

[@lordkermit4668]

Glad to see Tomo has joined the team!! Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t he make his first appearance in the espresso tonic video a while back?

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

Yes, you are absolutely right! We are happy to have him with us ☕️💪

[@dimaangert]

I have Kalita Wave (small) and Origami (small). I do prefer the coffee from Origami with Kalita Wave 155 filters, it is brighter and cleaner. The Kalita Wave serves now as a travel brewer thanks to practicality of steel construction. I have tried Cafec T90 and V60 filters. Kalita and V60 work the best in terms of balance.

[@SureFeelsGood]

which filters work easiest with the kalita wave?

[@dimaangert]

@@SureFeelsGood You mean between the drippers or between the filter papers? Nowadays I prefer the Origami papers with Origami dripper (the papers are manufactured by Cafec). With Kalita dripper you can only use Kalita Wave papers.

[@luism4822]

Guys!!! Greetings from Costa Rica!!! Love your videos , more than welcome to come here and make all the reviews you want. I assure there is plenty of coffee and regions for u to enjoy jaja!!

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

It would be nice to come to see Costa Rica!!

[@officialMainspring]

got my Origami yesterday. Loving it so far. I've been using V60 and for larger batch, Chemex. I'm using Hario papers although my package came with the Origami's company paper. I'll try it down the line. Origami dripper is beautiful and I find it much easier to brew on due to slightly larger opening. Plus it looks gorgeous! dig it!

[@Java_CM]

thanks when I first saw the brewer I also thought it was not that practical because of the lack of handle and removeable base. Now before getting any new dripper a 1 piece construction (with handle) is a must because personally it just makes handling and cleaning a lot smoother. I dont think im missing out from skipping out on this dripper.

[@DJaquithFL]

I have a Kalita Wave 155 Ceramic Dripper not that worthless metal one that does not have the same drip rate as any of their others and use Kalita filters. There's a hack where you can drill the holes larger. Otherwise my dialed in Moccamaster KBGV Select is my go-to. All these oddball ways of making coffee are for when I'm in the mood to do it. ☕😎👍

[@pcchoon]

More beautiful looking V60

[@andrew.sulisthio]

What a coincidence that I'm also currently looking to upgrade my cheap-plastic dripper! Thank you coincidence!

[@autumn_of_thought]

Actually plastic is the best material for thermal mass retention, besides it's more durable. Just saying :D

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

@@autumn_of_thought good point! On the other hand, aesthetics is also an important part of coffee brewing, right?

[@autumn_of_thought]

@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip Gotta agree. It's also worth noting that aesthetics has become a big part of your recent videos as well haha. Good job.

[@hakonmellem2857]

If I ever open a coffee shop I would use origami drippers as lamp shades.

[@tomol5785]

You should consider an investor and super small led lights then ;)

[@LaggyKikee]

Lol they sell these now

[@indrawang9538]

Already try to use origami dripper hario v60 01 paper filter , i do agree with you using v cone shape paper filter bring more acidty, bright and clean, i do prefer to use v cone paper filter than kalita wave paper filter because when using kalita wave paper filter give a dry aftertaste. Btw thankyou for sharing with this video 😁

[@tomol5785]

Good point! thanks for sharing :)

[@mehproducciones]

Where can I get that beautiful pink jar for the comandante? 😲😲😲

[@phill9465]

I thought that myself! I need one!

[@reallusionful]

I'm guessing it's painted with glass paint

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

These are Comandante's new polymer jars (in many colours) that should be on the market soon. We often use the red one with our black Compandante:)

[@lukasbenjamindavisonloncha2120]

Nice video guys. It's design really took my attention, but I would like to know how are the paper filters for the Origami itself. I would love to see a cone shape with the waves made for the Origami. Would that be possible? I hope so, otherwise I wouldn't buy the Origami

[@narathonboonpasook5313]

I’m also use origami same color with both types of filter, and it’s was cracked by a dog. My opinion origami dripper is in the middle between V60 and Kalita and you got an option to play with both types of filter so the most important thing is what coffee do you have or you like then make a difference good cup of coffee by playing around your dripper. ✌️

[@tomol5785]

I agree! Depends on the coffee, roast profile, grinder and the water ;) so many things, right?

[@agileanalyst214]

I like the look. Minimalist. Want one for the style. No handles sticking out

[@dj4950]

Hi! Can you guys do a review on the Brewista Tornado Duo ?

[@sikmisc3845]

when visual looking is more important than practicality. So as the vid summarized; it's a V60 with a little bit bigger hole. with no holder. and testing by no mean of scientific results. still wonder why its brew had more body than the Kalita as Kalita has more immersive brewing character. anyway, great sharing. Thx :)

[@kenvme]

I love that coffee cup! Is it the loveramics caramel (potters edition) one or something else?

[@beaniemac83]

Nice video thanks, at some camera angles I thought this looks like the matt blue colour and I was going to ask, but when I watched it back I realised he said it was turquoise

[@klaskristian1]

I have never heard of it. It looks great!

[@drinkmotto1388]

When using Origami Dripper, do we wet the filter paper before use? For both V60 paper and Kalita wave paper. Thank you.

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

Yes, in general it's good habit to wet paper filter also with Origami Dripper.

[@clintow]

I did the most careful a/b i could with a plastic V60. I feel like the origami definitely produced a slightly different flavor. I preferred it; seemed to have a slightly rounder sweetness and brighter acidity. My V60 brew felt just a little "flatter" in comparison. I'll of course have to do more tests though ;) Anyone else feel the same?

[@ashzhu3085]

try the glass V60 or use a slightly finer grounds for your plastic v60 Or modify tour brewing method for V60 to bring out more body

[@TC_Prof]

Great video. For me when I use origami i always use the kalita filter just suits 😀

[@SilvaPereiraTiago]

The best are V60 Japanese brown filters. Tried everything, even the sibarist filters. Have been testing it for 1 year now and it has much cleaner and sweeter than the regular filters and regular v60 dripper.

[@AllGroundsCoffee]

December Dripper. It can control the water flow rate by adjusting the number of hole.

[@clubmate12]

Hi - what's the glass decanter Tomo is using in this video?

[@adamjefford8489]

How many clicks on the comandante did you use for the origami? Was it different than the v60?

[@nikolabankovmusic]

not for me.. same amount of clicks as v60 :)

[@adamjefford8489]

@@nikolabankovmusic how many clicks did you do

[@nikolabankovmusic]

@@adamjefford8489 24-26 clicks.. depends on coffee

[@tomol5785]

We used 21-24 clicks :) You can definitely start with the same grind as for V60.

[@arpit5317]

I don’t think there’s any noticeable difference in taste for a normal guy like me. It’s a choice between a good looking but expensive dripper or a very cheap $7 Plastic V60. Whatever works for you.

[@frederickateng3779]

Ah... Its been 2 years now Origami proven to be very good and won many championship And... it does produce sweet n smooth coffee

[@klarinetta]

Did you use the same grind size for all of the brews ? Does it affect the flow rate to use Kalita 185 filter in the smaller Origami rather than in the larger one like here ?

[@orrinbelcher6593]

Nice video fun and informative thank you

[@yasuosuzuki925]

Thanks for making great video!!!!!

[@The.Liminal.Spaces]

What Commandante grind setting did you use please and water temp?

[@baristaodla7640]

Does the normal v60 method has the same effect as the origami dripper with the kalita wave paper? I seem to get that clogging/stalling effect on v60s.

[@cornphp5103]

Where did you get that specific holder of Origami?

[@adrianopinheiro295]

What is the best recipe you made for each type of filter used?

[@gedewiryadiptanalaputradua9094]

What about grind size and brew ratio? Are there any difference?

[@cybermonk8580]

What coffee cup are you using?

[@tomol5785]

Loveramics :)

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

It's the Egg cup from Loveramics (caramel).

[@rykmax]

⁠​​⁠​​⁠​​⁠ @EuropeanCoffeeTrip I must have missed it, but where is your favorite origami recipe?

[@gkzsng]

I like your coffee cup! Where is it from?

[@reallusionful]

looks like a loveramics cup

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

It's the one from our partners at Loveramics. It's Caramel Egg cup: www.loveramics.com/collections/egg/products/egg-150ml-flat-white-cup-saucer-granite-carmel-gunpowder

[@zacchiu1171]

I have broken two Origami drippers....and now considering whether to buy the third one or not......

[@EuropeanCoffeeTrip]

How did you break it? Perhaps the third one will last ages 😅 We mostly use our plastic V60 in the office - it doesn’t look as good but is unbreakable 💪

[@brianc8148]

I find the origami to brew faster than the v60 and 185 with the same filters.

[@andylinn16]

Better body comes from better extraction. A fast dripper can only extract the acidity, which dissolves easily when adding water. Sweetness comes out the next! My favorite drippers are Kalita Hasami & V-60.

[@seansweet1509]

Sorry for the late add. Got my Origami Air a week ago. I'll add this: Faster flow rate (in the Origami) means you can grind finer, which opens up more possibilities.

[@MikkelKaldal]

Can u maks a review of the December Dripper ?

[@brunomoraisferreira]

What about the Koar method???

[@moryalex]

man I loved your cup sooooooooooooooo much, oh, please, share its link pleazzzzzzz

[@kilansshetty5079]

So, can we use Hario V60 dripper with Origami Filter paper??

[@tomol5785]

Sure! :)

[@PradyumnVij]

The plastic holder comes in the box of the Origami you need to buy the wooden holder separately if you really need it.

[@tomol5785]

Hey! We had to buy the plastic holder separately, It does not come with Origami dripper.

[@Dorito230]

I am totally happy with my Kalita wave.

[@SureFeelsGood]

do you have steel wave? which filter works best?

[@Dorito230]

@@SureFeelsGood No, I have the ceramic one.

[@WMMT6_CBOYZ]

How many clicks was used for the testing? 😲

[@MafinPhoenix]

How is Wawe faster than origami ? Just from the first look I would expect oposite.

[@skiqwerty12]

its faster with the wave filters because with the origami, the waves stick to the sides of the dripper which restricts airflow

[@MafinPhoenix]

@@skiqwerty12 Oh ok now I get it. Thank you 👍🏻

[@jornidema1884]

I am thinking to buy a espro dripper.

[@Dorito230]

You should compare this with the ceramic Kalita.

[@mixeddrinks8100]

try it with a lily drip with the Origami and a cone shape filter.

[@fredayao6406]

idk why but origami make my Geisha taste much better

[@arafardy7462]

Bluebottles vs kalita waves please

[@ile_klikow]

I sold mine. Origami can make a V60 and a Kalita brew but none of them as good as real V60 and Kalita. If you have these two drippers at home don't even bother buying the Origami

[@Redhaired-j5w]

Care to explain your experience on this dripper?

[@ile_klikow]

@@Redhaired-j5w nothing much to say besides what's been said in this film. No significant difference between an Origami and a V60 and the Kalita made a better, sweeter, heavier brew than the Origami. If you want 2in1 it's great, but if having two different drippers is an option you should definitely take it

[@Redhaired-j5w]

@@ile_klikow thanks for your additional insights!

[@tomol5785]

hey mate! :) I got a better mouthfeel with Origami in many of the brews! Later I found out it actually works better with a higher dose of 27-33g, even with Kalita filters much better results. But I agree that it is not revolutionary!

[@krzysztofwozny9742]

@@ile_klikow Would you recommend it as a first/only dripper?

[@johnlindgreen]

I can’t believe you make a comparison without talking abot grind adjustment. Is it the same grind size for all four brews? Would it make a positive difference if you change it? If there’s more acidity in one case, will it help to adjust the water’s mineral composition? This is a strange and not so useful review.

[@greysuit17]

It’s way better and more versatile.

[@ChicagoTurtle1]

I prefer speed. Kalita.

[@aficionado7178]

kalite is the way to go. no need for new dripper unless big important change occurs

[@3mc33Rizox]

With a Kalita and V60 at home, im afraid I dont find may reasons to spend 30€ in further drippers, and believe me, I’ve tried to find them everywhere since the origami looks fantastic (love the orange, the yellow and the turquoise).

[@tomol5785]

I see your point! I guess it's about the feeling from the brewing as well.. Not everything must be about numbers and extractions! :)

[@painpeace3619]

Brewing same

[@TheDemethar]

dude geometry has nothing to do with acidity. thats just pr talk

[@PaulCamantigue]

Well, brew time does affect acidity which is what he pointed out like 4+ times.

[@MrNikibilly]

this is not the real origami the link you put is not the real origami is the one you are using from amazon this like you put is SimpleReal - TAMAGO Origami

[@kathrynhavelka1764]

4:28..... 🥵🥵🥵🥵

[@Thenatural56-iz5xb]

They are all the same...Set on cup or pitcher, add filter, wet filter, discard water, add coffee, add water for blume, wait, add more water, wait and then final batch of water....Serve......That is it....This is like asking what coffee cup tastes better with coffee inside....

[@uhkon]

What a poor vision of the different devices

[@Thenatural56-iz5xb]

@@uhkon You have zero clue

[@uhkon]

@@Thenatural56-iz5xb What a poor answer

[@Thenatural56-iz5xb]

@@uhkon What an ignorant reply.....

[@konstantinosaristarchou3941]

I can't change my V-60 with anything

[@keithpp1]

Meaningless review. No information on - grind size - brew time - brew recipe

[@antonkravets5026]

So ultimately it’s a piece of shit. Understood.