Anouk - Birds (The Netherlands) - LIVE - 2013 Grand Final

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The Netherlands: Anouk - Birds live at the Eurovision Song Contest 2013 Grand Final

[@JaneFokster]

Now that NL seems to have a good chance of winning this year, I think it's time to thank Anouk once again for her gutsy decision to demand to represent the country in the ESC after a long period of misery for the Dutch. After Anouk, going to Eurovision was no longer regarded as an embarrassing thing to do for 'serious artists' in NL. Thank you Anouk!

[@rianvandenboogaard4151]

Yes, I agree. People tend to forget, but that was a gutsy thing for her to do.

[@gamr4846]

Well now Duncan's Bringing it Home ❤️🇳🇱

[@dezinan4141]

Well waylon and ilse were big musicans aswell and i believe they did it a year ealier than anouk. And they ended up 2nd

[@JaneFokster]

@@dezinan4141 No, they went after Anouk, in 2014.

[@dezinan4141]

@@JaneFokster oww my bad than you are right indeed

[@nietcheyenne]

too good for the eurovision

[@nietcheyenne]

Iene MieneMutte I think this years' winner is a really good singer!

[@IeneMieneMutte10]

It's not about the voice, it's about the song! All songs!! (by the way, Austria had a terrible song and ridiculous performance)

[@sonjaso3627]

Iene MieneMutte i love the Austrial song. Everybody has a different taste. but the majority obviously liked it. respect that

[@Anilezle]

Austria did win!!!! Haha!Iene MieneMutte

[@gbohol]

Yes this song is too serious for Eurovision pop taste.

[@ESCStroopwafel]

1:51, gotta give a like to the guy with the German flag on that feather duster!

[@고양이-w1h]

Wanneer je te skyr bent om een vlag te kopen😂

[@Jesperrr2306]

@@고양이-w1h Arla Skyr

[@wdwdwdwlolol7725]

HAHA

[@Thomanski]

@@고양이-w1h skeer

[@고양이-w1h]

@@Thomanski nee skyr..

[@rupertschwarz5477]

Don‘t be sad, Netherlands, this song will be remembered.

[@solangeloshipper9529]

Rupert Schwarz why would we be sad

[@juniornutshell]

Correct. Winners aren't always remembered but such songs capture a loyal following and endure.

[@macabre2007]

quite right I am here now, because this song in 3/4 was so brave. and a moving introspective lyric, marvellously sung. This is one which stand out as a song and as testament that yes all musicians can watch Eurovision, to see the breadth of genres, tempos, subjects and styles, in possibly the most prestigious songwriting contest.

[@macabre2007]

@Victor Tronin what is?

[@default78643]

@@solangeloshipper9529 yes. Fuckin' sad

[@kristelpi652]

The Netherlands was quite revolutionary with this song. After this entry, and their following slow country pop entries, they really changed the culture in Eurovision of countries grotesque circusshows entries. Now many more entries are ‘real music’ that ‘don’t fit eurovision’. And Anouk (together with the common linnets) started it. Greetings from Germany!

[@anothercomment]

The mid 2010s was the time when the Eurovision stopped with the joke acts and gave us some serious music, and Anouks Birds is a great example of this. Also, the reintroduction of juries in 2009 helped the contest from becoming a total circus that it had turned into during the 2000s.

[@civilservant9528]

No they didn't

[@stitchfaces]

@@civilservant9528 While I love Anouk and the Netherlands, I would say Lena and Germany in 2010 is a better example of starting a more "radio friendly" sound as a an up and coming standard in Eurovision, I think even the next year's winner (Azerbaijan) also followed that trend to some extent.

[@antepa112]

You've got to be kidding me lol. Most of the songs in eurovision nowadays are a joke

[@eurovisiondiary.5945]

Yesh

[@CristianNicolae]

One of my favorite performances ever on the Eurovision stage. Amazing. Also my winner last year, this is real music.

[@amirlavie]

I agree with every single word and her Album whi contains this song is perfect

[@dogcraftmc8968]

justagamer forfun She wasn't bad. And for the TVOH, she is at least honest with what she says, she doesn't want to lie to her team members.

[@noutdocter8908]

Jivyy stfu

[@dorienlobles-swart8054]

Fijn nummer ..

[@ESJustJoking]

dat klopt... dit is echt. frans bauer is nep bro

[@mellymelmusik]

She was the start and opener for all the good Dutch entries that followed

[@qwertylello]

Can we just say how underappreciated most of the Dutch songs have been throughout the last ten years of Eurovision? Sure, Duncan Laurence won in 2019 but even Anouk, O'Gene, Common Linnets and the male singer who later partecipated solo were all astounding in their depth and underlying emotions. I think Netherlands are among the best in the festival and deserve much more recognition than, say, Sweden or Russia. Much love from Italy

[@szandorthe13th]

You mist be talking about Waylon in that case

[@juliethompson5301]

Douwe Bob ?

[@szandorthe13th]

Oh yeah it could be Douwe as well

[@qwertylello]

@@szandorthe13th Yep, Waylon it was

[@liamhakvoort]

​@@szandorthe13thits waylon he participeted in 2014 and 2018😊

[@god7632]

For people saying that it is Boring, Plain, To Slow, or Weird. It is about fcking Suicide. Anouk wanted to do this without dancers because she lost so many people of Suicide and jut wanted to handle it alone. Just look at 2:27 , she was about to cry but then later the audience started singing.

[@MissTriana127]

God true

[@klaasjansen8378]

It is is a very personal song which carries many messages and still saddens me and is a beautiful song

[@NienJax]

Wow wat doe jij hier 🤔

[@heppolo]

Iceland 1997 entry was also about suicide, as well as Estonia 2010 entry.

[@Lynn_l]

Anouk has feelings? But on the voice of Holland she was SUPER DUPER mean and didnt care about the contestant's feelings! (Im Dutch)

[@Eldar_Mammadbayov]

I think Arcade is the revenge of The Netherlands that so many recent acts of the country were robbed by fandom.

[@karstb736]

Its like we were in an Arcade getting ‘outplayed’

[@qwertylello]

I know your feeling of getting robbed, being Italian. Thankfully both of our countries received finally the deserved trophy.

[@Crystallium]

​​@@qwertylello same here in britain, sam deserved better, still waiting for the trophy tho

[@dovydasmartonis8501]

Always love The Netherlands songs you never dissapoint me :)

[@Raysboss302]

Sieneke too ?

[@XReflexian]

Raysboss302 Sieneke ? ... Wie is dat? ..lol

[@jelkehogeboom864]

XReflexian Van Sha La Lie... Zoek maar een keer op: 'esc 2010 the netherlands'

[@XReflexian]

Jelke Hogeboom Ooit van sarcasme gehoord? .... ;)

[@jelkehogeboom864]

XReflexian ja maar ik ben nooit goed geweest in het ontdekken ervan.. ;]

[@chorusalonso8834]

This is the most underrated song in ESC ever! It is so beautiful and so unique

[@SilverStrumer]

Anouk practically ended The Netherlands’ 10 years of not qualifying for the grand finals with this song. If it wasn’t for her, the Dutch delegation wouldn’t have bothered to send The Common Linnets and Duncan Lawrence.

[@squallsea]

I still think this should have won, and it's one of the best songs to grace this competition in my lifetime...

[@bobwagemakers5055]

simply agree, it even pops up every so often in my overal top 3 of best songs ever which is a very dynamic list depending on my mood, but still...

[@franktaymans1802]

As a Belgian I voted for this song. It still ranks as one of my favourite songs of all time.

[@noname-kk6xv]

I agree with you though the performance was kinda boring and I think thats a big reason why it didn't win. Love this song thoughh

[@Tompelicious]

I remember watching this with some friends at home in Sweden. I was mesmerized and it felt like time had stopped during this performance. My friends however were more interested in the chips and dipping on the table. One of my absolute favourites in ESC ever.

[@mrgreatbritain]

Tompelicious that’s a reason why you should watch Eurovision alone!

[@weeardguy]

I didn't watch the complete show (as usual, it just takes too long) but can remember how well this song stood out in the voting-overview when they repeated about 10 seconds of each song from that night. This was such a warm, welcoming sound between all the noise from all the other songs. The same happened the year after, when The Common Linnets got the same effect: just by the lack of overprocessed sound, their song stood out from the rest.

[@annaking5010]

"So when did the Netherlands start to become good again?"

[@simis_1975]

2019 they win 🙃

[@murphy9039]

The moment when Anouk stepped onto the Eurovision stage in Malmo back in 2013.

[@wildtalksireland5670]

Arguably the best ever song in Eurovision. Astounding vocal. Should have won by a mile. A great song by any standard. I still listen to it quite often. I just love her voice.

[@EdjeMr1975]

She lives 5 streets away from me in my town Haarlem. Greetings from the netherlands 🇳🇱❤️

[@Liamsuprnova]

This song was beautiful and far too good for Eurovision. I love how she just stands there and sings. No gimmicks.Just art.

[@Mozzarella-and-Tomato]

The fact that the song sounds so depressing but she has such a hopeful and strong smile

[@joe_ESC]

She started everything and now we're going to The Netherlands in 2020 😍 So happy for this amazing country and this song will forever be my favourite of 2013, love from Argentina ❤️

[@murphy9039]

Mine also, still one of the few Eurovision songs I listen to from 2013, memorable performance.

[@rudigerschwarz1186]

@@murphy9039 This is a way better than Duncan Laurenc…..I Think this is the best ESC-Entry ever...

[@europlayoof5429]

but in the end, we didnt (in 2020)

[@YTN1112]

@@europlayoof5429 then we did(in 2021)

[@DavesDomeTube]

In my opinion the best Dutch entry ever and one of the best songs in Eurovision history.

[@Crus072]

2:30 backing vocals KILLING it! What an arrangement!

[@mikesinclair7135]

Incredible... One of the best Eurovision songs ever... Should have won

[@lorofcb3]

My favourite Dutch entry of all times. Still gives me goosebumps today.

[@DemetraMKD]

She had the best song of 2013 by far. Very underrated and melancholic. Timeless masterpiece.

[@petrawink922]

Dat moment dat niemand verstand had van muziek. Want anouk had toch zeker in de top 3 moeten staan.

[@johnnydee969]

Still get goosebumps hearing Anouk singing Birds. One of the best Dutch entries ever. The controverse of a well known Dutch rock chick performing a moving ballad in this Eurovision atmosphere brings tears to my eyes. After many years of dull Dutch entries with no chance to reach the final, it was Anouk who changed the Dutch Eurovision history at once. She paved the way for strong Dutch entries like the Common Linnets, Douwe Bob, Duncan Laurence for taking the Eurovision Songcontest seriously. Hear the heavenly interference of her choir at 2.10. Totally underrated at the end of the final but certainly one of the chosen songs when my time on earth is done.

[@ChrisHartmanChrisHartman]

This song was heavily underrated, who remembers this years winning song? I don't....

[@julsforyou9154]

Chris Hartman I do lol, Only Teardrops is a nice song but I prefer Anouk's birds

[@romy7408]

emmelie de forest is insanely good tho. she definitely deserved to win

[@marcoberck8233]

Common linnets losing from a wurst was way worse though ... Atleast tear drops was a good song.

[@mxkoster1615]

Wasnt it sweden

[@rapidityd1853]

denmark teardrops

[@DiegoNoDreams]

Too perfect to ESC, love this song!

[@brianjones351]

Quite simply the most beautiful song ever on ESC. A timeless masterpiece.

[@xWatanukix]

Certainly one of the strangest ESC contributions of its time, and I mean that in a positive way. The song absolutely stood out at the time and even 10 years later it is one of the few entries of the last decade that I still remember well and continue to listen to from time to time.

[@EgorLuts]

Anouk, this is the best thing that happened at Eurovision in recent years. Thank you Netherlands! For 8 years, thanks to the ESC, I have been listening to an amazing singer from the Netherlands. I would very much like to see her as a special guest in Rotterdam

[@tagaway6173]

She wasn't even invited 😭

[@martinkooistra7867]

This song has slowly grown on me. Looking back at it now, it's Anouk that makes it work with a pitch perfect, no-nonsense performance that is totally authentic and highly enjoyable. The best thing is that she clearly enjoyed the experience and the audience sensed that and responded to that.

[@cupcakesmakememoan]

that's what I call a masterpiece.

[@klarinetta]

By far the best song. Original,well composed and great performance

[@amelieschulz4075]

Beautiful. So raw and magicial.

[@Robyn-r9s]

Such a powerful song - and what perfect staging. Dress Anouk in black, put her in the middle of the audience and just let her sing!

[@Choisedrug]

this is probably the most beautiful song ever performed in eurovision

[@mrgreatbritain]

This is quite incredible, gives me chills everytime I listen to it. One of the best we’ve ever heard at Eurovision! This also gave Netherlands their 1st qualification in 9 years! Anouk has plenty to be proud of

[@TheLadySilverMoon]

Such a beautiful song and I love her performance. It looks simple, but her standing in the middle of all those waving flags I think is just really powerful. She makes the audience part of the performance.

[@rodrigoraab9694]

A masterpiece that had a huge impact on Eurovision in The Netherlands and overall: Anouk proved that if you are talented enough and you stay true to yourself, it doesn't matter how different your song is - people will admire you! Without a doubt her performance and her qualification after years and years of non-qualification for the Netherlands was one of the biggest moments in Eurovision history 🇳🇱❤

[@Sahi_PK]

I really like the return of the jury voting. Because of that, the finals now have a more balanced combination of great songs, entertaining performances and guilty pleasures. I'm glad Anouk contributed to the great songs part, and to me the song gets better every time I listen to it.

[@angeldc54]

This beautiful song could never had won Eurovision. It's a touch of class and quality that is well above Eurovision.

[@pattipatti4623]

10 years later this song still sound so good and emotional. One of the best Eurovision song in year 2013!!

[@maruschka2337]

This is the first song I’m listening to after booking a trip to Amsterdam, just because it’s the most beautiful thing I think of when I think of the Netherlands ☺️

[@siobhananderson2144]

After watching 2024 I yearn for these days with fabulous singers and real songs, no gimmicks

[@raquelrodriguez777]

Eurovision 2013 was spectacular: there was a lot of musical level that year. Now they only want to go viral.

[@franktaymans1802]

At the time-living in Congo DRC- having a satellite dish I was able to follow the euro songcontest and being absolutely absorbed and captivated by the sheer beauty of this song and Anouk’s presence on scene is something i’ll never forget. Being a patriotic Belgian my vote was for our neighbour country of the Netherlands. My congolese friends, watching the show with me were humming the tune for the next couple of days . It was quite surreal. Thank you Anouk for a lovely memory.

[@alion-zz1xb]

i can't believe that this was 9th...she deserved at least top 5

[@Alex4u]

the live performance wasn't excellent though, kinda boring for the wide audience who tends to be excited about Miley Cyrus and Lady Gaga...

[@zealot9129]

7th*

[@jchdhc]

top 5 from the bottom

[@willgie]

Impressive ,,,!,,,

[@shamikghosh7197]

Isolated from the outside Clouds have taken all the light I have no control It seems my thoughts wander off Of the time when I tried to Live life without you Birds falling down the rooftops Out of the sky like raindrops No air, no pride If being myself is what I do wrong Then I would rather not be right Hope's turned into fear With my one wing I can't fly With sunrise embrace my Dreams tight and that's why Birds falling down the rooftops Out of the sky like raindrops No air, no pride Birds To a place without fear, with no moonlight All I need are trees and flowers and some sunlight When memories are being made and where the old one dies Where love ain't lost Birds falling down the rooftops Out of the sky like raindrops Birds falling down the rooftops Out of the sky like raindrops No air, no pride That's why Birds don't fly

[@Garell0s]

One of the most beautiful melodies ever on ESC. It surely was too good for the masses to take in.

[@andyparal]

I don't know how many times I have come back to listen to this song, but one thing I know for sure: I'll come back to it until I'll take my last breath here on earth. What a stunningly beautiful song !

[@andyparal]

I'm still coming back to this song even 5 years later, now I think that should tell me something... Thanks to Anouk for one of the most beautiful songs written in so, so many years! And to all those "would be", "could be", "might be" or "should be" artists: Listen and Learn !!!

[@ambervanaert5045]

noorderburen jullie hebben de laatste tijd een goede smaak in het sturen van nummers ;) keep up the good work, A vote from me

[@harun358]

Aww thanks :')

[@rodesniper]

poop i love ur name... :D

[@harun358]

:o Thank you ! i like yours too :P

[@rodesniper]

poop haha :)

[@AllAboutNightcore]

Zuiderburen, jullie doen het de laatste tijd anders ook super hoor!

[@_peadar_]

I don't really mind that she didn't win. I mean, I love the song, and wanted her to win, but I'm just glad that she was on Eurovision, so that I could be introduced to her and her music. It was a great performance. She sang in tune throughout and gave it lovely tone and emotion. I love Anouk, and can't wait for her new album in November!

[@moodyseb]

No doubt that "Birds" was the best song of ESC 2013.

[@intervne]

every year that the netherlands qualify this entry becomes more meaningful

[@Crystallium]

yeah, i bet you lot dont like to talk about 2023

[@poertjt2]

This song is absolutely beautiful :) Greetings from Denmark

[@keithharth1219]

I get goosebumps every time I hear the last chorus

[@messylittleraindrops8604]

I love how the flags move to the music

[@sarahherzog922]

One of the most interesting songs I have ever heard, thoughtful, brilliant, complex, touchy.....i am speechless!

[@arildolsen4232]

It is interesting to see how countries who win in ESC in the years leading up to the victory, "prepares" with good entries which do well. So in retrospect, Anouk's amazing song heralded a Dutch win in the near future - only question was when. And now we know.

[@jerriejoen]

We in the netherlands are thankful that anouk changed how we viewed eurovision, since this song we took it seriously again.

[@gottmiksshoe6786]

My clearly winner!!! So beautiful✌ Greetings from Luxemburg

[@Groningen.explorer]

Anouk is an amazing international artist!! Simplicity powerful and just about music and no act. Anouk is one of the best artists from Europe!!

[@Nico777t]

She is My Favorite ! Best of the Best ! Anouk love you!

[@Cal2929]

This is where The Netherlands said, yeah we are coming back guys!

[@francescopiluso2006]

I love so much this song! It calm me in every moment. 12 points from Italy.

[@ApricotStone]

This is an amazing song, but I'm kinda worried about what happens to birds in The Netherlands 😂

[@pinnip3657]

much stuff

[@Fleurig-xr5mm]

Lightbox Animations You'll get used to it

[@MoonieGamer]

Siranush the birds are flying away im living in the netherlandse

[@ESCStroopwafel]

Most birds I encounter just fly away, except pidgeons. Pidgeons appear to be too dumb to move away, so often my parents have to drive slowly (sometimes even stop) just to keep the pidgeon from getting ran over xD

[@Widdekuu91]

+Siranush Well, there's a Dutch saying that goes; 'De mussen vallen dood van het dak." Meaning (badly translated though): "The sparrows are falling dead from the rooftops." It means it's very hot. With climate change going on, we're saying it more often.

[@darylchambers5945]

I could n`t believe something of this calibre would be entered as a Eurovision song, but delighted. Still a great song, and, for me, the most memorable Eurovision entry ever.

[@jelmerdo576]

Dankje Anouk door het eurovisie songfestival leuk weer te maken voor Nederland.

[@hansevers8605]

This is what the ESC should be. A singing contest and not an act contest. This is one of the most beautiful song in the whole contest history IMO. This lady is amazing whit such a wonderfull sound

[@NewLegend1998]

Beautiful, magical, classy, powerful, ... This song is a real masterpiece. I enjoy it everytime I listen to it. Thanks Anouk and The Netherlands for this outstanding piece of art! My winner that year!

[@pilardavg]

This song has always moved me since I was a child

[@celephaisx4939]

to this day I still adore this song.

[@HH-rz1cp]

Also today

[@Schnipp08]

Best song of ESC 2013 without a doubt. Greetings from your German neighbour. I voted for you back in 2013.

[@HasseBasseBingBong]

If only Madonna had sung just as beautiful as this during the ESC 2019 final.

[@madalinconstantin3051]

True winner of 2013

[@bernard1313]

A memorable moment for the Netherlands.

[@andyparal]

One of those songs I come back to time and time again. Thanks a lot to the Netherlands to send such a beautiful song to the ESC! Admittedly, when I first heard this song, I didn't know, what to make of it, as it wasn't the average ESC "easy listening" song you'd expect, but it grew on me more and more. Now I know, that it is a masterpiece and some of the juries will probably soon have kicked themselves for not noticing it on that evening.

[@Alex4u]

I love Anouk and her last album

[@habsullassidechick6255]

i love your profile picture

[@officialpanda9266]

This song is the closest thing to true art Eurovision will ever know and the fact that it didn't win to me is particularly upsetting.

[@danielmerino1827]

So beautiful and heartwarming! You can really see she was there to share her art above all. Thanks!

[@javito72]

It´s not only a song, it´s a poem. Bravo!!

[@muguruyarr]

I'm a watching reminder✨

[@DirtyHarriet73]

Das ist so ein wundervoll starkes Lied, was Anouk so kraftvoll, in sich ruhend und voller Wärme singt.... es wirkt auf mich tröstend und friedenstiftend für die Alltagssorgen.... Hoffnungsvoll & optimistisch = toll!!! Liebe Grüße aus Berlin :-)

[@bobwagemakers5055]

maybe you are dirty,... for sure you are honoust and eloquent. I agree 99% with you about the content, but even when i did not i would still have replied to your comment simply because you can express feelings exact, i like that! Liebe Grüße aus Eindhoven.

[@isanneyard1992]

Will never forget that day during the semi final in that Arena! GOD we were so happy to finally get to the finals after all these years of not qualifying! We cried like little babies! That was just Amazing. Anouk We Love You for that!

[@Gustava10]

This is absolutely one of my favorite songs from the contest! It is so melancholic and ambivalent that makes you sway for a moment from your reality! I listen to the same album and her songs there are pure art! I didn’t actually know who she was when I watched the contest back then, but this song was stuck in my head and now I cannot understand why she didn’t win!!

[@LoveAge]

Still one of those one big mysteries of ESC....How come it didn't win?? Like..so weird... Do people simply do not HEAR what music is..?..or..is it all rigged??? Like...? What??

[@thegamingpieceofvlaaifanst545]

LoveAge maybe 99% of the people who liked this song were Dutch and couldn’t vote

[@saraskyline8331]

LoveAge this song could have done so Well in Televoting if it existed back then Only Teardrops probably would have still gotten more points from televoting though

[@Mama-lb7nl]

Kijk, dit nummer had moeten winnen, prachtig gezongen en een pakkend MOOI lied ! Topnummer Anouk.

[@red-soul]

MASTERPIECE! I like to think She was the invited Guest that Year, She was Outstanding. Has Nothing to do with the Competition.

[@phoenix1977]

well that's probably because she is/was a record selling rock singer, been a professional since the mid 90's or so.

[@maximet1746]

A pure and simple magical moment!

[@MariaEduarda-rc9cl]

Who is listening this masterpiece in 2021?

[@jorgkuijt4735]

Came back from 2024...because i needed it....

[@Teunviss]

this is defenitly the true winner if the jury is listening to the sound in stead of the song

[@MilouLois]

"No birds where harmed in the making of this song"

[@MenschUnterwegs1234]

I love this performance. I voted for this song. Greetings from Germany.

[@thepuddingmaster6712]

The first time in like... 8 years the Dutch actually send a song that doesn't suck

[@GamingCentral176]

because holland is sending out our celeberties

[@Eva-vn7vq]

Thanks!😂😉

[@ev8om]

shalalie shalala

[@maritvdhoek]

The Puddingmaster HAHAHAHA true😂😂 I'm Dutch and I was always when I heard our song: we suck again.... but since 2013 we're finally sending songs that don't suck😝🌹❤

[@s3mjj3]

Although I'm Dutch, you are right😂😂😂

[@eurovisiondiary.5945]

Simply MAGICAL. This is pure music. Thanks Anouk. Thanks Netherlands.

[@marc-antoinemc2116]

One of my two favorite songs from Eurovision. Her performance is magical. *This is Art !*

[@lostsoul2106]

Now I see how beautiful this song is

[@FizzPunk]

FOREVER a true masterpiece, which still touches me in her performance!! I think with these kind of songs artists and their teams brought back Real Music to the ESC!! The ESC 2014 edition should have been won by the Common Linnets imo!! Im not sure about the netherlands 2015 by Trijntje Oosterhuis! But she could be suprising for a fact. I think a band like Dotan would have been a better next step in the recent progress of quality act of the Netherlands!! Wishing them All the Best en Inspiration for this year!!

[@anneliekebijlsma1493]

FizzPunk i know this is from a long time ago, but dotan has caused quite a scandal in the netherlands actually. And i don't blame you for not liking trijntje oosterhuis haha. I hope this year is going to be a bit like anouk again.

[@JL-zw7hi]

Annelieke Bijlsma Bedoel je die nep-accounts?