EV Times, 100 Million Loss due to decline in EV Prices, but yeah, EV Residuals are stabilising

[@snookerturk]

Keep it going ! Don't get discouraged, your on the right path 🎉🎉🎉

[@BarrieCrampton]

Thank you, I will

[@kevinaldridge]

You may not like people much Barry, but you are a genuine, honest man and you are liked by many. It’s a dogs life. 😂

[@BarrieCrampton]

Thank you, I appreciate that 👍

[@binits777]

Keep up the real news Barrie and your analysis. You deserve to get 50k subscribers. 💪

[@BarrieCrampton]

Thank you, I’m on the way 👍

[@lukebignell7846]

Car manufacturers are going bust and sellers going bust too. It will be carnage

[@alundavies5171]

thousands of Ev cars Pre registered sat on abandoned airfields all over the uk! why if they are in demand??

[@Sp_75-76]

Examples?

[@simonh870]

There are thousands of unsold Chinese built EVs sat at many European ports such as Antwerp, Zeebrugge and Rotterdam. What a scandelous waste of raw materials and resources.

[@goansunborn]

I live in Norway, probably the best place to see how this plays out. The used car market is flooded with low km EVs that aren’t selling and used petrol car/ diesel cars are going up in value. The problem I see is the government here will keep forcing the adoption because net zero is like some kind of religion. It makes no sense.

[@BarrieCrampton]

That’s very interesting, not what we are hearing over here about Norway, thanks for sharing

[@goansunborn]

@@BarrieCrampton One of the biggest used car dealers here for EVs ‘marcusbil’ has gone bankrupt, leasing companies are going bankrupt, even Oslo’s bus company was going bankrupt because the EV busses don’t work in winter and have been bailed out. A friend works at nettbil here who are a car auction site and confirmed what I thought about the used car market. No one wants used EVs. Finn.no, norways autotrader speaks volumes.

[@Fred-gu6pk]

And Norway has that huge sovereign fund to keep subsidising them. The UK has run out of money and can't keep subsidising them.

[@goansunborn]

@@Fred-gu6pk They do but the whole thing feels fraudulent. Lots of back handers going on to keep pushing things and everything is becoming more expensive with taxes going up to pay for all of this nonsense. Net zero is the ultimate excuse to tax people here.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@Fred-gu6pk The UK didn't 'run out of money', it funded a futile war...

[@TrueSkyl1n3]

All for the sake of trying to find a solution to a problem that didn’t exist in the first place… Absolutely fucking bonkers.

[@foppo100]

Their is a problem of pollution in our towns and that is not fucking bonkers is it?

[@TrueSkyl1n3]

@@foppo100 No there isnt, modern ICE vehicles are MAGNITUDES cleaner than they were in the 80’s and 90’s which is what Net Zero Nutters seem to believe we are still living with the same pollution levels as back then, we don’t have cars that blow plumes of black smoke anymore, we have modern equipment that reduces the particulates being emitted. But keep buying your cheap Chinese EV’s which are manufactured using power from coal-fire stations that chuck more shit into the atmosphere every single year than our country ever has and ever will.

[@doggy55915]

@@foppo100 pollution my arse.Towns are empty.

[@kevinaldridge]

@@foppo100the air down in Londons underground network is far worse than on the streets. What are they doing about that? Nothing, is the answer. And you think this is about the environment…… 🤔

[@BeeBee3_Adventures]

The only pollution so far this year in my town is from EV fires

[@mitchhigginson2248]

Thank you Barrie for sharing your experience with us- it’s been very useful

[@kieranokeeffe1363]

Watched your previous video, I agree with your opinion Barrie 👏👏👏

[@kevinledgister5252]

For years I’ve been shouting that the EV industry is a house of cards. There was not and is not an organic case for mass market EV adoption. We are at a critical juncture where if the EV market does not find renewal it will collapse the market.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

The problem is that government care aboyt control, while simultaneously being morons.

[@Trevor_Austin]

The lack of EV chargers is not why I do not have an EV. I can also charge at home for free. I don’t want a quality EV because I can’t afford to repair one. I don’t want a cheap one because I don’t want to BBQ my driveway. The main reason I’m not having one is that the government want me to have one.

[@layersoftheonion8168]

Totally agree. There’s also the battery. I’m sick of constantly charging the bloody iPhone let alone having to plug a car in, even if it’s on the drive. I just love being able to get in my car and not think about the charge level.

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

💯 correct Thanks ❤🎉😊

[@mikewhitehead50]

You ever seen a burnt out EV on a driveway in the UK? Despite the many thousands, even the anti-ev brigade can’t show you it. Because it doesn’t happen, or is as rare as being struck by lightning. It’s no wonder used ones aren’t selling, because people believe absolute rubbish.

[@mikewhitehead50]

@@layersoftheonion8168. I know everyone’s situation isn’t the same, but while running diesel and electric, I spent considerably more time refuelling the diesel despite it doing less miles.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@mikewhitehead50 "I spent considerably more time refuelling the diesel " No you didn't.

[@alextoft9199]

Barrie you are awesome. You made me laugh with the Ami joke. I was in a Lexus garage the other day and thinking how much I hate car salespeople but you're aright 👌 I loved the Toyota BZ4X electric on the 24 test drive. I would have loved it just as much with a petrol or diesel engine and charging was a pain. Now the excitement has passed my current car is a 2012 Focus 1.6 diesel Econetic. It's everything you need and I would run it into the ground as new cars don't excite me.

[@daveb2wright]

Aww, bless. Quentin Willson. Another BBC presenter to be proud of. :-(

[@proffpuff]

Governments destroying car ownership don’t want you going anywhere

[@RD-qp3mu]

Lies, damned lies and statistics

[@BarrieCrampton]

Yep, they are just made up, it’s just like everyone is telling lies

[@chasf3433]

Big mistake by GM to drop the Opel brand in the UK as it was like the equivalent of Audi for those wanting a posher badge. My 1976 Opel Kadet was bullet proof with no rust etc. and great to drive on B roads.

[@ohyesitsme]

One minor thing that might put people off is if you are on a jouney in an ICE car you will find lots of petrol stations along your route but in an EV many chargers are off the beaten track and then you have leave your planned route to go hunting them down and if there are only a few chargers it's possible that they are all being used or broken. There is also a growing business of cutting off the cables to sell the copper.

[@mickd802]

There is 12 ev charging spaces in my local car park taking approximately 1/3 of the car park and they are empty most days

[@matthewgodwin3050]

@@mickd802 Probably because they're all broken.

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

​@@mickd802Thanks Mick mines the same 😮😊

[@G-ra-ha-m]

With a diesel I can be in the south of france before I need fuel...

[@blogg9922]

This is main reason why my sister in law will not use their EV for any journey that might possibly involve public charging, which in her head is 120 miles max

[@Ian.Gostling]

Loving youre talks Barrie,look foward to them,suppose sum would say i lead a sad life!

[@BarrieCrampton]

Well thank you for the back handed compliment 😂

[@keijak1]

Thanks for your insights and thoughts. You say you were selling Opels, I'm guessing late 70s early 80s. Surely the reliability thing also applies to the Vauxhalls of the time that were the same cars. GM cars of that vintage Kadett/Astra etc were most reliable and servicing cheap, a clutch in under an hour.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Some Vauxhalls were built in Britain, others were built by Opel with Opel badges, they were better, and yes a clutch in 35 mins, great design

[@willumwhitmore9419]

Predicted electricity 'rationing' for household consumers to support EV charging?

[@tokoloshimampara9932]

We are going to be like Cuba and Zimbabwe. Old cars kept on the road and a burgeoning used spare market.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

I've already transitioned to a 43 year old petrol car. All mechanical, no electronics, and simple to repair and maintain. It even gets 50 mpg. Wish I'd done it years ago.

[@DanRyan-v5y]

Beware EU has proposed a law to prevent major repairs to cars older than iirc 15 years old. That is probably intended to flush out those reluctant to move to EVs. Free gear will happily bow to the EU so we will probably get this as well

[@tokoloshimampara9932]

​@@DanRyan-v5y100% am seeing it already by stealth. Tried to get an outer CV joint for my 2009 Picanto from Eurocarparts only to be told "we no longer stock it"

[@DanRyan-v5y]

@@tokoloshimampara9932 wow only 2009 and you can't get the parts! And we keep being told we must be more sustainable 😊

[@johnpassey3176]

Surely if the only way to sell new EVs is to continually increase discounts, then second hand values also drop, so that owners of used EVs just watch their vehicle's values drop like a stone making then undesirable. Also can't be long before all the Chineese EVs also start appearing punishing used values even further?

[@matthewgodwin3050]

I saw one of those Ora Funky Cat EVs on the road the other day. It's quite a good looking car actually.

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

​@@matthewgodwin3050yes I agree Matthew but but Butiy is only skin deep 😊

[@michaeledwards8079]

@@matthewgodwin3050 I lease one, It is now a year old and my insurance quote has tripled, the car has a list price of £32500, but my insurance company value it at £13500, that's a year old with 3600 miles on it, thank god I lease it, I pay £247 a month, but the latest cost for the same deal is £823 a month with £8380 down

[@DanRyan-v5y]

They are all at Rotterdam docks. They keep importing but the dealers can't shift them so they sit at the docks

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@DanRyan-v5y They will end up in landfill.

[@northernnarrowboater8423]

According to my calculations a rise of 0.3% on a £20,000 used EV is only £60 !!!

[@dadys31]

The instavolt chargers are expensive, that's why they're empty

[@BarrieCrampton]

That’s good to know, which are the best?

[@djtaylorutube]

​@@BarrieCramptonTesla

[@AndyK.1]

I guess his question was, which is the cheapest 😅

[@matthewgodwin3050]

@@BarrieCrampton Ionity seem to be the most reliable, and prices are a bit more reasonable than a lot of the others.

[@Fred-gu6pk]

So it is about money, exactly as he said in relation to sale/lease prices. So there will be more cries for subsidies.

[@Phucket24]

Barrie you talk a lot of sense once you take the real price of a EV it’s not worth it. I’m staying with my Ford Fiesta ICE

[@geoffreycoley846]

in my opinion, you discount because you cant sell at original price

[@BarrieCrampton]

Either that or you want to go out of business quicker

[@matthewgodwin3050]

It's not the price that's stopping people buying EVs, it's everything else.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

You know what happens when there's too much product? Landfill. It's coming.

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

Take care Barrie thanks 🎉😊

[@roybatty2030]

If leasing companies want lessees to extent the term, it surely just means they will crystallise a loss if the term ends now and they sell the EV at today’s low price. They hope that the extra year’s rental income will exceed the further depreciation over that year, to claw back some profit and break even over the length of the lease.

[@gerrydepp8164]

The real killer joke is that all this is just the warm up as the whole EU has a self inflicted energy shortage that will only get worse as there is no solution except maybe nuclear in 15 - 25 years time and even then the enemy of choice has all the fuel. Whats more the economy is collapsing - not going towards boom times - this is a bad time for new unproven more centralised tech when people need cheap reliable established transport not expensive hi tech when scarce electricity will be needed for household/industry. I will be running my Diesel on canola oil; that is what it was made for...

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Hopefully the crashing economy and declining standard of living will cause massive political backlash.

[@lesliecarter4295]

Quentin Weasel has disappeared…?

[@BarrieCrampton]

If only

[@matthewgodwin3050]

Quentin hasn't disappeared. He's just nipped out to buy some more 40k mile tyres.

[@7s29]

EV lovers can't connect the dots. You can show them facts, and they'll still double down. You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of reality. - Ayn Rand

[@willkinmont611]

Ayn Rand died in poverty claiming welfare. Not quite the flex you though.

[@authuruksake969]

They fudged the new EV sales figures... Now they're trying to fudge the 3 year old EV's coming off a lease deal, offering to extend the lease beyond original term to avoid the inevitable over supply to market - which will drive down the price of EV's further. Whilst at the same time trying to prop up the value/asking price in Auto-Trader, telling people buy a s/hand EV instead of used ICE Alas, the reduction in new EV prices, no more global shortage coming out of lockdown, in some cases - a new EV could be cheaper than it was 3 years ago - even without the EV grant/subsidy you once could claim So I don't see many people extending their lease on a 3 year old EV, so the over-supply will continue & more reduction in used EV prices People can try to influence & prop up the depreciation that is coming, only the next 6 months there will be MORE 3 year EV's flooding the market, and then the next 6 months there will be EVEN MORE etc... As the EV sales curve kept climbing, mostly on lease deals month on month, it is inevitable more & more used EV's will appear, whilst they try to stimulate/lower NEW EV sales = used prices will have to fall Now we are going into winter, the moment you drop below 10 degrees that 4 to 5 miles per kW in summer is now edging towards the 3 to 4 (if you're lucky at 0 degrees) miles per kW Even if you're charging at home for say 2p per mile You will notice that you're plugging it in more frequently as your range is in decline Driving in sub zero temp coz range anxiety is starting to kick in if pushing your EV range is not fun either Winter is not the best time to own an EV, people will find out and will be another factor for not getting an EV - maybe not just yet Yeah, they're gonna struggle to keep fudging & shoring up EV's going into winter with more used EV's hitting the market

[@djtaylorutube]

Winter is a great time for an EV, preheated cabin, everything defrosted before departure time!

[@authuruksake969]

@@djtaylorutube unless you have your EV plugged in AND the heating/pre-heating is performed during the scheduled charging slot... Any pre-heating you do on the app, is being powered from the EV's battery on top of the reduced range you face during cold winters. You might be able to pre-heat at home whilst finishing your charge... But if you get to your destination with little over 50% charge... Well you will probably be facing de-icing your EV manually (ahhh bless), and the prospect of driving home not so warm & snug, anxious you may struggle to get home with your EV's reduce range

[@djtaylorutube]

@@authuruksake969 Nope, you're rather wrong there (wrong on all counts actually!). 😛

[@authuruksake969]

@@djtaylorutube Really ??? So you put little candles in your EV, then light them 30 mins before you depart to avoid using any charge to the EV's heatpump - gotcha

[@djtaylorutube]

@@authuruksake969 Nope, don't need to do any of that. I have the car, you don't. I know the reality of how it works and what it's like... You don't. 😁

[@martinsoelby5902]

My point exactly. Introduced them slowly. Could be that you can only qualify for a government subsidy if turn in your old ICE car at the scrap yard. If not you pay full list price.

[@BarrieCrampton]

only way its going to work

[@limitedmark]

Another great video, many thanks.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Thanks for watching 👍

[@mikewhitehead50]

Post lockdown shortage resulted in dealer, lease companies etc believing demand and residuals way higher than they were. People with 1 year old Mini EV’s being offered £28k on a car worth £30k new. Big mistake. I traded in a diesel VW way over-valued and a 2.5 year old civic for virtually what I paid new! Traders had no idea what they were doing. I myself then took a cheap lease on a Mini EV as even I could see the situation was a volatile mess.

[@BarrieCrampton]

“Traders had no idea what they were doing” 😂 perhaps you are in the wrong job and have missed your vocation 😂

[@mikewhitehead50]

@@BarrieCrampton was it a good idea to take people out of one year old EV's (on PCP) and stick them in brand new ones, Barrie? No, it was a crap idea. Traders and dealers genuinely thought EV's weren't depreciating without even considering high demand and short supply immediately after lockdown.

[@graemejones9707]

@@mikewhitehead50 They work on commission, of course it's a good idea to get people to change more often

[@mikewhitehead50]

@@graemejones9707true, they do. But if they then make a massive loss on the car they took in PX, it’s not so clever.

[@graemejones9707]

@@mikewhitehead50 Surely no business would do that, they'd be bust in no time! It's easy to see why dealers don't want EVs now, they're the equivalent of burning £50 notes just sat on the forecourt

[@kevatnorthfield]

I brought an kia Sorrento 23 plate phev and 60k. So basically 10k of that was tax. Unfortunately after a year and a half i got fed up with plugging it in. Just to travel 35 miles. I got 40k trade-in and brought a i.pace se, fully electric for 40150. Dealers put up prices after COVID. Well unfortunately dealers have shot themselves in the foot.

[@battyhouse]

Barrie, thanks for your comments, I have just been looking on VW Approved Cars for a ID3. There are 12 which were all registered on the 19.08.24, and are for sale at Oldham, Crewe and Wrexham. What is going on? They all have mileage of between 10 and 25 miles. I now have doubts about buying.

[@ilollipop100]

I just subscribed.. Might I make a suggestion... Two cheap lighting rings from your local cellphone repair shop would improve things visually. Great videos btw.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Cheers, I do have two lights which are pretty good, but I think I forgot to turn them on

[@GrahamNewman-mq7gr]

Barry 110% Correct on ever aspect. Back in or days in the motortrade you could get " Unwanted part ex . vehicles " to trade buyers. Used EVs are un- selable to trade buyers . They as desirable or wanted like a dose of "Sifalus".

[@andybrowne2117]

EV's the death knell of cars !

[@Tom-dt4ic]

Only the death knell of ICE.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

@@Tom-dt4ic Petrol and diesel cars will still be around long after EVs have been consigned to the dustbin of bad ideas.

[@Tom-dt4ic]

@@matthewgodwin3050 ICE cars will be around in a hundred years...but they will be around in the same sense that horses are still around, as a quaint little niche hobby for the rich. You can't stop a superior technology from taking over, as scary as that might feel to those frightened of change.

[@DanRyan-v5y]

In a hundred years EVs will be parked on drives waiting to be charged when there is enough wind or sun to supply enough electricity over the requirements for heat pumps and other more important needs

[@Tom-dt4ic]

@@DanRyan-v5y I'm sure there were Luddites such as yourself in the 1930's saying that electric refrigerators would crash the grid...and ICE was better. Do you see what I did there?

[@hughjanus7354]

Barry, I just watched your video with Geoff. Did you really drop a not silent but definitely violent at about 33 mins in?

[@robbeazley4694]

Great work Barry thanks for

[@layersoftheonion8168]

I wonder which banks are on the wrong side of these companies? Lloyds? Barclays, HSBC?

[@MrGrtx]

Spot on Barrie👍

[@lloydmillership9682]

diesel sales up 17% says it all diesel is king

[@alundavies5171]

c4 E nissan leaf and corsa electric all on motability scheme with no ingoing price thats why they are moving!

[@DanRyan-v5y]

There are problems with notability forcing EVs onto disabled people who won't be able to cope with all the EV problems according to others

[@goansunborn]

Barrie, what's your thoughts on the EVs from China? Build quality wise.

[@BarrieCrampton]

I will be upset if they catch on and usurp the likes of VW, I think MG have already been voted the most unreliable used car brand, plus all the Chinese EVs are mostly hideous

[@adams7405]

A 'better" car ? I have an E39 540i 2003 worth about 5 grand and a 2023 Audi A6 3.0 company car listed at 65k with all the spec.Any idea which is faster,better made,bettet to drive and more reliable?

[@Knightboat99]

Another excellent informative video 👍

[@BarrieCrampton]

Thank you for watching!

[@keithjackson4212]

If Haigh the transport secretary wants more EV,s on our streets, why are they putting tariffs on foreign imports, thought we are supposed to be in EV’s for environmental reasons.. there are cheaper alternatives -they are built in china but we are not allowed to buy them, but HAVE to buy European vehicles that cost more ! Cleaner air ? Nah.

[@paulgeraghty1448]

Labour is full of thickies

[@vacation_generation]

I agree fully. What's wrong is mandating what I am supposed to buy with my own money and drive. Feck NO! I don't want anything that is mandated! Don't give a shit if the product is the best thing since sliced bread. if I don't want it....I don't want it. And to the point i'll give up driving first. The more pushing and prodding they do, the less I want what they want me to do. Lets call it 'parent / child' situation. I recently visited a Range Rover main dealer to look at new and second-hand Defenders. The taxation on the 3L diesel is eye-watering 🤣...so they won't be selling any of those. Everything else is a fucked up mixture of options that mean nothing to me, petrol plug-in hybrids, electrics stuff that's too complicated and therefore probably highly likely to be unreliable in the long term. No thanks. Sticking with what I got until it packs in. My current Discovery 4 has done 98K. I've had it since new. There's nothing at all wrong with it. It'll do another 100 K at least

[@Dan-hy5co]

Went to buy some furniture at Furniture Village today and all the staff apparently have EVs bought by the company haha 😅....the guy said it's good to drive but the battery has depleted 60 miles in 2 years and worse in winter. When lease runs out, they've been promised better range from Kia cars, bought by furniture village. So where the hell are the current EVs cars they've all got going. What a mess

[@emmettculleton7165]

When you read these articles, Barrey, don’t you smell something? What’s the saying wake up smell the coffee?

[@idanceforpennies281]

There isn't a week goes by without some new battery technology being ponced. I've watched this for years. Not one of these new batteries have gone into production, it's the same crap from 20 years ago. All they do is make the battery cell packs bigger (which means heavier, more expensive and longer to charge).

[@ericchild3363]

Is there any data to show, by manufacturer, how long EV batteries last and what they cost to replace? I know EV battery life is a concern, but should that apply to all EVs? There are an increasing number of EVs where the battery is likely to outlast the car. The problem is that all EVs are tarred with the same brush. If we had data, we could avoid the lemons and EV perception would improve.

[@keijak1]

"LIKELY to outlast the car" That needs to be proven before consumers willingly part with their cash and that confidence will take at least another decade. Lord knows what the state of the economy and motor industry will be in then.

[@ericchild3363]

@@keijak1 By "outlast the car" I mean still have say 70%+ of original capacity at 250k miles. I think there will be many teslas that have already achieved this, but I have no hard data. Not sure the same can be said for other brands as they are too new.

[@DanRyan-v5y]

70% of what capacity though? You are already told to not discharge below 20% and not to normally charge over 80-90% to preserve battery life. So realistically you are only using 60% ISH most of the time. So is it 70% of the claimed capacity or of the 60% ? Just a question, but it shows that such things need to be taken into account if it is a public confidence issue. If people think they are being conned, as they already do, you have to be very specific about claims. Just as people are very sceptical about ice mpg figures from manufacturers. They conned too much and are widely distrusted.

[@ericchild3363]

@@DanRyan-v5y Fair points. Personally, I meant 70% of stated original capacity, but you are right, that needs to be defined. Note that once batteries lose too much capacity to be viable for car use they can then be repurposed into stationary storage, and eventually can be recycled. So their terminal value to the motorist is not zero.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

Don't you think that a lot of these people who drive EVs are just hypocrites, the vast majority of those people have been quite happy driving around in combustion engine cars for years, now that they have an electric car the combustion engine is the devil incarnate. I can see these electric cars ending up as expensive over sized paper weights.

[@elliotoliver8679]

Why don’t car makers bankroll candidates to run against this nonsense?

[@lightningstrikes7314]

Hi Barrie-Do you have an email I could contact you on? Thanks in advance.

[@BarrieCrampton]

My email is [e-mail]

[@Cotictimmy]

"Chief Exec of British Society of Motor Manufacturers announces insatiable demand EVs as used EV as prices fall another 10% last month." "The Guardian blames 'White Supremacy' for British public's refusal to buy EVs." "Government's latest EV Tsar says reluctant consumers need more education & recommends more DEI in schools & exam boards." 🤣

[@dcasteaux9181]

Am looking for a car: has to be reliable, easy to fix and mechanically simple. Have narrowed my choice to a pre 2009 VW Tdi with less than 100k miles. And I can afford a new ICE car or an EV.

[@tokoloshimampara9932]

Just make sure to change the cambelt as soon as you get it. Never gamble with a cambelt. Money spent now wi save you big time in the future

[@AndyK.1]

Get a petrol car !

[@BarrieCrampton]

Don’t blame you 👍

[@Wolves_Wanderer]

I love V8's stuff the Polar Bears

[@layersoftheonion8168]

Tbh I’d probably consider a hybrid but a pure EV? Never, period. And even with a hybrid I guess the same issues around battery fires, not being able to repair post minor accident, spectre of high insurance etc would still make me think, f-it, ICE turbo 1.4 (like my Alfa) all the way thank you.

[@Tyreman22]

Fact between 2022-2023 239 EV fires in the UK. During the same period 100,000 ice cars caught fire. Ice cars are 29% more likely to catch fire.

[@layersoftheonion8168]

@@Tyreman22 ratio of ICE to EV? Severity of ICE v EV? You do you but thanks for the response.

[@CrazedCrittic]

Petrol head here, owned Astons, Ferraris, a Lambo, 2 Ultima's, many Jags etc. Love my EV's don't care about depreciation as that is just value explained in another way. I'm thinking for myself. The latest car is 4 years old and I just paid off the PCP @£15k. Previous company contributed £450PM so I just added £100PM. With depreciation the car owes me £35k. That is fantastic value for money for a car which offers that performance and longevity. Just ordered a new Tesla Model 3 Performance for my work and will keep the Model 3 LR as a family car. Charge it at home for free (30KW solar plus 30KW battery). Let's see, 45000 miles on the current car. It's had one windscreen and two sets of tyres. Zero maintenance. Virtually zero running costs. You. Just. Don't Get. It. Bing on market crashes it lowers the s/h prices but I will always buy a new one every 4 years. Tesla are innovators and the car then is nothing on the car now. Unless you've owned a Tesla you will never get it! Citroen Ami is a POS. Tesla Model 3 batteries are doing 500,000 MILES on one battery. Wake up. You are cherry picking the stats you want for your channel.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Sorry you don’t get the big picture, blinkered, you are thinking about yourself that fair enough, I’m thinking for everyone and the motor trade, you think my Ami is a piece of shit but it’s perfect for me and to be honest I wouldn’t swap it for your Tesla, so I’m sorry that you don’t get the message, depreciation is value, that’s a good one, best yet, must use that one in a video thanks

[@adams7405]

A petrol head must have owned an Alfa, and a six cylinder zBMW

[@meggriffin4802]

That must be the most self righteous me me me comment I’ve ever read. Talk about blinkered opinion. Also every true petrol head has owned an Alfa, you’re just someone that has chucked money at expensive cars.

[@mastergraphic9998]

Free electric charging at home from your 30 Kw solar and battery lol 😂😂😂 over 30k purchase price with 10 to 15 years max usable life span is not free charging. Let's hope you don't work in finance as you will bankrupt your company. 😅

[@Fred-gu6pk]

​@BarrieCrampton "Owned" that lot and now has a brace of 3's. I have most of those and 3 batmobiles, they're upstairs in a cupboard with the track

[@anthonybrown4874]

If EVs are so great they would sell brand new and second hand part of the problem is government pushing a technogythe public aren't prepared to pay for supply demand are out of kilter. We will have one when it makes sense to have one. If the government want better public adoption perhaps subsidise home chargers it certainly puts me off make fast charging cheaper. We could find a use case for an EV at the right price the salary sacrifice the BIK subsidy capital write downs, low car tax which all make the leasing company car market buoyant in the short term but the used market decides what a car is really worth. Stop interfering with the market the technology has to stand on its own two feet and needs to be reliable, repairable and insurable.

[@AndyK.1]

0:28 😅

[@BarrieCrampton]

It’s a little belter 😂

[@Wild-oggie]

I am considering replacing my 9 year old Hyundai ix35 diesel, owned for 6 years, which still easily cruises @ 55mpg and is reliable and trouble free, I will consider an ev which will home charge @ 7p per kwh and achieve a real world 300 plus miles. I certainly will also consider a 3 year old ice diesel vehicle. The house we live at already has an ev charger fitted. So now it's down to price, watching closely how the dice falls. Thanks, Barrie, your insite is ace

[@Actually-y7j]

Most these EV promoters were previously door to door double glazing salesmen and now they've found a new scam

[@davidharbutt4375]

You never say anything about tesla, 8 years guarantees car and batteries and many batteries going on way beyond. Also no dealers to deal with when buying. Also the Heighington selling car in the world ( that's the model Y)

[@ohyesitsme]

Best selling car in the world..........not anymore, Oh! it's not just Tesla that give and eight year warrenty on the battery, most EV's have that.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

Every single Tesla I've seen being driven on the road has been less than 18 months old. I have never seen a 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, or 8 year old one. There's a very good reason for that. They don't last 🔥🔥🔥

[@Tyreman22]

Nothing wrong with EVs, You just have to stop listening to secondhand car salesmen with ice cars on their hands they can’t shift.

[@ambassadorfromreality1125]

You seem to ignore one crucial fact when list the virtues of the ev, "good as they are", "nice to drive" etc which is that evs save a huge amount of CO2 emmisions which are causing cimate change and air pollution which causes health issues. This is the only reason that responsible governments are forcing the market to adopt evs. Thank God that evs exist so that everybody who drives a car now can drive a car in the future. The Car industry may be suffering as is likely because planned changes can always go wrong. The superior ev tech will naturally replace ice in the market over a longer period of time but we haven't got time so ut has to be forced. The real real villians of this sad story is the press relentlessly printing misonformation about evs causing uncertainity in many peoples minds. Why do they do that? It is this uncertainty which puts people off evs and causing the European motor manufacturers all sorts of problems with the transition to evs and their legacy ice. The chinese are laughing. The future is ev, they have them to sell, the world wants to buy them. Legacy manufacturers will be destroyed if they don't have a slice of the market and it will be down to those pedfling misinformation because we will be driving evs in the next few decades but not evs made locally. Don't be one of them

[@matthewgodwin3050]

EVs are not the future. The future that governments have planned, is that nobody will own a car of any fuel type. That is unless we stop arguing about which is the best drivetrain, and start standing up to government tyranny. Your children will have to live in the dystopian future that we're all helping to create by acquiescing to psychopaths and idiots trying to control the fine detail of our lives.

[@Sp_75-76]

It’s not only CO2 it’s, which is more important, it is also all the poisonous stuff, that is actually killing people in our towns

[@mastergraphic9998]

Idiot. Co2 is produced whether you burn petrol or deisel in an internal combustion engine or charge an ev car powered with electricity from power stations buring gas and wood pellets or renewables which consume colossal amounts of co2 in their production. Have you honestly ever thought the process through or just repeat what you are told.......

[@wayneoriordan6749]

Good vid barry