EV200D vs LaForge vs True D vs Dock King vs FXT Viper vs Fat Shark Transformer

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Joshua Bardwell

Joshua Bardwell

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@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, man... Even with only one receiver, the EV200D is fantastic! 😮 Great tests, JB!!! Thanks a lot!
@mouhssineguennoun3693
@mouhssineguennoun3693 6 жыл бұрын
Can I use only one diversity receiver on my ev200d or I have to use both. And also is it safe to not have antennas on one side ?
@etlam123abc
@etlam123abc 6 жыл бұрын
@@mouhssineguennoun3693 not having the antennas on one side should be ok as its only a reciever and not a transmitter. I would think that you can use only one module as it should select the strongest signal and if you dont have a second module it will be a signal strength of 0 so it should select the signal from the first module
@etlam123abc
@etlam123abc 5 жыл бұрын
@@gfoster8116 if there is no difference in the video switching of the googles and the modules it shouldn't matter but I would probably go with both antennas on one module and use the other module for something else like a screen for other people.
@ariafpv
@ariafpv 5 жыл бұрын
I have ev200ds and they are not very good in most situations
@pedrogrieblerreche7402
@pedrogrieblerreche7402 6 жыл бұрын
For extra 20 bucks, the EV200D's receivers are ridiculously good for the price! 10 bucks each! Maybe comparison with Rapidfire and Clearview next time?
@TMacFPV
@TMacFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! After a long wait and lots of rumors about the EV200Ds, they actually look quite promising. I'm with you. Correct some of the issues you and other reviewers have mentioned and maintain (or lower) the price and Eachine has a winner!
@flappybird_fpv8370
@flappybird_fpv8370 6 жыл бұрын
Ev200d simply jaw dropping. May not be the best but at the price I think I might chose them next over commanders v1
@reegspreems
@reegspreems 6 жыл бұрын
I gotta say I was pretty impressed with the ev200d even with just 2 antennas. It seemed to be holding it's own or doing better than any of the other modules most of the time.. I was going to save up for some fatshark hd0's but now I'm on the fence again! Great video!
@davieboy333
@davieboy333 6 жыл бұрын
im exactly the same
@Sty1a
@Sty1a 5 жыл бұрын
I had the HD0's and the EV200D at the same time on my head locked to the same copter and compared them. i really prefer the image of my ev200d's. Much better on my eyes. Also the light leak issue that JB was talking in the review about got fixed apparently since i didnt see that in my googles.
@VERLINFPV
@VERLINFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Are they any better then the $40 ground stations ?
@amscriven
@amscriven 6 жыл бұрын
enjoyed the video! Eachine stepping up the game and i would have to say the ev200d looked much clearer to me all around. big thumbs up for me to buy them. thanks for the test.
@999wilf999
@999wilf999 6 жыл бұрын
Quite impressed with the FXT Viper, especially since it's been on my radar for a while. Mostly because I have a very strong glasses prescription, and Fat Shark inserts would cost about as much as the FXT!
@NicuIrimia
@NicuIrimia 6 жыл бұрын
Hi JB! I want to tell you because of your statement around 6:30 mark. RHCP waves are changing direction when reflected from a surface effectively becoming LHCP. The hole benefit of CP is to not receive the reflected wave. This is why putting both polarization's in a system like you mention is a bit funny. It's not like having vertical and horizontal.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
Running mixed polarization csn be a benefit if the reflected wave is stronger than the direct wave. This can happen when an obstacle is in the way and the reflected wave bounces around the obstacle. If you put bit a LH and RH antenna on your goggles, you'll see the diversity switching between them. I'm not saying it's always a good idea, but it's not a totally ridiculous idea.
@licensetodrive9930
@licensetodrive9930 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a thought - it can be difficult to differentiate the detail of leaves on trees from RF noise. What if you put two VTX's on a quad, one hooked up to the camera you fly with, and another with no camera so transmits a blank picture. Then capture both VTX signals and sync them up and place them side-by-side, so you can see where the craft is on one picture and the other picture ONLY shows when the signal is bad.
@ziggyzbeak
@ziggyzbeak 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks J.B. they all work very well . I am getting the EV200s been waiting a long time and they are very upgradable.
@pablom463
@pablom463 3 жыл бұрын
If I get a multi protocol radio, should I use frsky, spektrum, or something else? I don't have the money to get crossfire.
@robbinkoot2154
@robbinkoot2154 6 жыл бұрын
I really want the eachine EV200D. But what antenna's would you recommend for the quad-diversity?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
One omni and then three patches pointed different directions.
@Duutse1
@Duutse1 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison, was still very useful! I was wondering, what was the transmit power and antenna on the vtx if you can remember so far back?
@pippifpv
@pippifpv 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know, how does the f1racing do it? They have live HD from the cars, 20 cars racing at once, big distances, and still HD from every single car.
@aezaror2894
@aezaror2894 6 жыл бұрын
Hrr Pippi digital with some lag. Great for diffusing not for FPV pilot🙃👍
@MrBumbles2
@MrBumbles2 6 жыл бұрын
f1 has ground stations everywhere and helicopters etc. and license to use it. its not 5.8 ghz big$$$$$
@omnray
@omnray 6 жыл бұрын
Most likely with so big lag that it's absolutely unusable for FPV
@countzero5150
@countzero5150 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just getting into fpv. I ordered a taranis q and I'm just kind of playing around in the simulators while throwing together a budget setup. So far I'm sold on the ev200d for the price and I think that's going to be my choice for goggles on a budget.
@SimRacer101
@SimRacer101 6 жыл бұрын
I think the most disappointing is the Dock King. I was really hoping it was going to be spectacular. I do think it’s going to be great for 2.4Ghz. I don’t want to wear those antennas.
@JZEFPV
@JZEFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly to me it looks like the EV200D was at least as good as any of the others when it had only 2 antennas. And with 4 it's a clear winner. I'm very surprised about that. I can't see how it's worth spending all the extra money on any of those other modules, unless it's Clearview. Reception is the most important aspect of my fpv setup to me. Thanks for the video Joshua!
@HomeGrownCanadianFPV
@HomeGrownCanadianFPV 6 жыл бұрын
all performing so well... industry improves by the minute.. must say, I have been using the DocKing now for a week... am very impressed.... a couple buddies now have... getting ready to link them up n see what happens... potential is scary... n another buddy makes cables, instead of 100 he is gonna try another wire that is good for up to a 1000.... may or may not work he says... we got our own quad camp at Devils Falls on the 23rd... little abandoned island... hope it works like were dreaming of it working... as always great video...
@TRITONFPV
@TRITONFPV 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to use the Dock King along with my FXT Googles. Can you make a video on it?
@hOZish7
@hOZish7 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for getting some real data on the Eachines. Just really want to see the final release version now.
@scarlfpv8613
@scarlfpv8613 6 жыл бұрын
I would put 3 patches and 1 omni on the eachine ev200D and it may do better
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe so...
@flappybird_fpv8370
@flappybird_fpv8370 6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell do it, so we can see the switching delay other reviewers mentioned
@johneod7821
@johneod7821 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, maybe eh? I'd like to try a Clover Leaf, a Pagoda, a Patch and an Omni all together and see how it does.
@Rvalivesound
@Rvalivesound 6 жыл бұрын
@@johneod7821 I wonder if using more than one omni at the same time works well. I always use a pagoda or a lollipop or an aomway omni alongside three directional antennas (low dB patch, high dB patch and a 7 turn helical).
@gautamkrishna7421
@gautamkrishna7421 5 жыл бұрын
I was actually coming to the comments to say that
@benherr2736
@benherr2736 5 жыл бұрын
Hello! I bought the Viper 2 Version of the Goggle - Early on I could fly any ware it worked great! I am using the Far View patch and a RHCP antenna. All good. Lately I can't go 20 meters out and the RSSI drops to nothing.... I changed antennas Etc. No help. I really like the goggle. Have tested same quads with lesser goggles reception is Good.. Any body else having this issue?? I am reluctant to but another monitor at 78.00 to fix it. Does FTX have any US Service?? Ben Herr
@whidzee
@whidzee 6 жыл бұрын
Could you put your TrueD and rapid fire in the Eachine goggles?
@bangnhard
@bangnhard 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question your first reviewer video of the transformer on Nov 11th 2017 you say that the transformer has true rf diversity but it this video here a year later you are saying the transformer only has antenna diversity I'm only asking because I'm looking to buy the transformer hd thanks for any input
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 5 жыл бұрын
I think the question is moot, because I am not sure the Transformer is available any more. Fat Shark now makes the Recon goggle, and as far as I can tell the Transformer is discontinued. Can you find it in stock anywhere?
@bangnhard
@bangnhard 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell yes a place called arrishobby self them but there's also a local listing on fb marketplace for $50 used and they are $99 at arris. Have you tried out the recons there's not really any reviews out there! I've always had box goggles I've never been able to afford the smaller goggles but I'm also looking at a pair of used teleporter
@sqb3832
@sqb3832 6 жыл бұрын
greetings I want to change my EV800D googles fpv but I do not know if a transformer or eachine EV200D I'm interested in the screen not the size, in your opinion which has better definition on the screen? and better reception range? Greetings and thanks excellent channel if not that the best.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
If you already have EV800 then I don't think Transformer is going to give you a significantly different experience. I recommend you find somebody who has a set of goggles you can try, and fly at least four or five packs to give yourself time to get used to the different FOV and see if you like it.
@mouhssineguennoun3693
@mouhssineguennoun3693 6 жыл бұрын
Can I use only one diversity receiver on my ev200d or I have to use both. And also is it safe to not have antennas on one side ?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
It's safe to not have antennas on a receiver. Only transmitters are damaged by not having antennas. You can use only one receiver if you want to.
@mouhssineguennoun3693
@mouhssineguennoun3693 6 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell do i take off the right or left diversity receiver in ur opinion or it don't matter wish one ?
@mouhssineguennoun3693
@mouhssineguennoun3693 6 жыл бұрын
And sorry for asking too many questions. I'm. New to this as you can tell :)
@thomashaley3830
@thomashaley3830 6 жыл бұрын
Now is the ev200 possible or even really able to run 4 patch antennas and would this be better maybe 3 patch and 1 cp
@lesterg3330
@lesterg3330 6 жыл бұрын
Jb I have a question that's been itching me about the 200d. Could one put two rapidfire receivers on it? And if so would the goggles be able to effectively switch between them? I know most wouldn't because of cost (2 cost roughly the same as the goggles itself) but I was curious.
@tabdougherty8549
@tabdougherty8549 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this kind of test where you can see what your money gets you side by side. I personally was hoping the EV2000 would have a good showing. I like the option for quad diversity at a reasonable price
@pablofpv
@pablofpv 6 жыл бұрын
EV200D clear winner for me in this comparison, I have the EV800D and they have been such good value and reliable, if they sold spares for EV200D then Eachine would nail it ,as my only concern and probably many others would be about the warranty compared to Fatshark?If anything went wrong and you could order all spares and repair them yourself ,I believe they would be on to a winner.
@thebridgeninja
@thebridgeninja 6 жыл бұрын
You mentioned maybe throw a LHCP and a RHCP omni on the two different receivers. This wouldn't work to our advantage thought, if I understand circular polarization and mutlipathing correct. If you are transmitting on RH, then you want to reject LH because that is a bounce... am I right? Thanks for the review and comparison! I am considering the ev200d goggles.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
I have played around with putting both LH and RH antennas on a diversity rig, and sometimes it switches to the other antenna, which tells me sometimes the bounce is stronger. I dunno....
@workshopbeastsfpv413
@workshopbeastsfpv413 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Joshua! What if we set apart the support of each brand. Which one will you choose between ev200d and fatshark attitude v5?? Good job as always!
@icantflyfpv4835
@icantflyfpv4835 6 жыл бұрын
Is the true d with the dock king a pre production model?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
It was sent to me by Furious FPV but it was in retail packaging.
@GibsonLesPaul2273
@GibsonLesPaul2273 6 жыл бұрын
I cant believe im about to say this but at the beginning when they are all stationary the EV200 looks best to me, none of that purple shimmering from the trees like with all the other ones, more definition in tiny details and nice balance of light/shadows.
@dmarko326
@dmarko326 6 жыл бұрын
Just wait til Furious advances "daisy chaining" from one Dock King to others. Alot of future upgrades already on the Dock King now.
@grenaditfpv4217
@grenaditfpv4217 6 жыл бұрын
i use true d and laforge but i have never ever heard of the dock king before i will have to look at those do u have a video in ur channel about these?
@grenaditfpv4217
@grenaditfpv4217 6 жыл бұрын
on his channel im using a computer so u hit the search button on his channel and type in what u want to pop up i use it all the time.
@MattiaMastroianni
@MattiaMastroianni 6 жыл бұрын
He ment on GOOGLE
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't covered dock-king yet. Soon I think.
@licensetodrive9930
@licensetodrive9930 6 жыл бұрын
Really curious to see how well the Dock-King does when you link two together with a 100 meter ethernet lead.
@reegspreems
@reegspreems 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see another test but blind. Dont tell us which is which, jus give us a number to vote on and reveal the results of the poll in a follow up video. I think keep thinking the ev200d is kinda mopping the floor with everything else the more I watch it, but maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see?
@rebelquadronfpv1065
@rebelquadronfpv1065 6 жыл бұрын
No one expected ev200d to be better. 💪
@filiped7298
@filiped7298 6 жыл бұрын
I think the DVR + KZbin compression, doesn’t really make justice to show the picture quality on them all.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
I think you can tell when they are clear and when they are breaking up and that is what really matters.
@filiped7298
@filiped7298 6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell I’m obviously new at this, but isn’t the break up thing only part of the equation when comparing these googles? Maybe next time it would be a good idea to link to the original DVR files on a google drive folder or something.
@whollymindless
@whollymindless 6 жыл бұрын
So does the EV200D DVR not zoom like the goggle screen does?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
This isn't the internal DVR of any of these goggles. They are being recorded with external DVR so every one is exactly the same. We can't let differences in the internal DVR affect the results. See the video description for the exact DVR I'm using.
@BogHopperFPV
@BogHopperFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Yes on the original review (picture of the screen) some of the OSD was cut off but here (dvd) it’s fully in view- did you change settings or is the view through the goggles still clipped around the edges?
@ANDRIEQUAD
@ANDRIEQUAD 6 жыл бұрын
I'm to buy fpv google ..but afraid waste my money...please help me..Between ev 200D VS Dominator v3 which one is the better?? Biggest Thanks you Im beginer..sorry about my english..
@ziggyzbeak
@ziggyzbeak 6 жыл бұрын
buy the fatshark goggles they are tried and true ev200 is new and we don't know what will happen in the long run. Cheers
@ANDRIEQUAD
@ANDRIEQUAD 6 жыл бұрын
ziggyzbeak R.C. thanks...
@TheQuadcopterReview
@TheQuadcopterReview 6 жыл бұрын
I would agree with Ziggy. Right now like all new things their just to new. Plus you can't bet the fat shark warranty at this time. You can get a rtf dominator v3 package now for under 300 and add true d for 80 and your set. I have a Fatshark rtf package giveaway going on right now if you want to enter as well. Trying to help those box goggle guys out the best i can.
@ANDRIEQUAD
@ANDRIEQUAD 6 жыл бұрын
The Quadcopter Review thanks you asome give....i really hopefull to win..dominator v3 is my dream..
@TheQuadcopterReview
@TheQuadcopterReview 6 жыл бұрын
Feel free to spread the word. Just trying to give back but super hard to get the word out and be respectful to people like Josh at the same time. Although at Kwad camp he was yelling plug it plug it too. hahahaha
@respawnpoint7677
@respawnpoint7677 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. I've been agonizing over many of the cheaper goggles, trying to find the compromise between cost and features, and not finding a one that was a good solution - no diversity, 32 degree FOV, or other problems. I think the EV200D is the cheapest set of well-reviewed goggles that have the features I want, and I'll be able to afford them sooner than I would a Fat Shark and receivers.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
EV800D is, IMO, a better value for money, but EV200D is not bad.
@Politicallyhomeless957
@Politicallyhomeless957 6 жыл бұрын
Good content JB and thank you for including my go to Transformers. Look 👀 good to me.
@herbertfortner2687
@herbertfortner2687 6 жыл бұрын
As always Joshua great job fantastic videos a lot of knowledge appreciate all your input great flying keep making these great videos keep giving us the knowledge you give us and thanks a lot man
@skylark0534
@skylark0534 3 жыл бұрын
Is this at 25mw?
@skylark0534
@skylark0534 3 жыл бұрын
I'm maybe a bit late 😅😂
@brandonwoodford579
@brandonwoodford579 6 жыл бұрын
True D 3.7 For me. Already bought it 2 years ago, and its still performing with all the top dogs.
@ziggyzbeak
@ziggyzbeak 6 жыл бұрын
I guess im going to look like a frickin moose with antennas hanging all over LOL
@rapidunscheduleddisassembly
@rapidunscheduleddisassembly 6 жыл бұрын
HD? Connex ProSight Amimon?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
Okay what about it?
@rapidunscheduleddisassembly
@rapidunscheduleddisassembly 6 жыл бұрын
Love your advice/videos and was curious what you thought about Connex prosight?
@vladmirputin7139
@vladmirputin7139 6 жыл бұрын
BUT WHERE'S THE HD CAT?
@redberlingo
@redberlingo 6 жыл бұрын
For the money - the Transformer SE for me is the sweet spot - massive image, decent optics and it looks pretty good against the "standards" - would have to test again in a car park for a worst case scenario....
@DimplePoji
@DimplePoji 6 жыл бұрын
Yet ppl will still go for Fatshark goggles and the branded modules.. Power of branding and influence from other sources are strong that it can cloud ppl's own judgement...
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
Flip-side of that is, there is more to a product than pure RF reception. All else being equal, I still LOVE LaForge for it's great interface and usability.
@DimplePoji
@DimplePoji 6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell LaForge lover 😝
@snowbell01
@snowbell01 6 жыл бұрын
I my self just got some aomway commanders, completely unbiased but for the money still cheaper than fat sharks and very good goggles.
@kevins1552
@kevins1552 6 жыл бұрын
What VTX are you using for these tests? I would like one of those as my eachine 801 is limiting my improvement in FPV.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
Tramp. Umm... I think. Maybe Unify. Possibly Mach 2.
@paguro95
@paguro95 6 жыл бұрын
Out of context: what's your opinion about the FrSky R9 system? Have you tried it? Haven't found many video talking about that, especially as good as yours :D
@vfluxrc545
@vfluxrc545 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Bardwell, great video, enjoy you reviews.
@steveramos8952
@steveramos8952 6 жыл бұрын
Wow!! I can't wait till the EV200D finally gets it release.
@montypeak8417
@montypeak8417 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Josh! That was a great review. I am literally brand new to the hobby and my opinion is hardly noteworthy. BUT I am glad to see you put the transformers in as a contender. That is what I fly with due to cost and the large fov and glad to see they hang in there. I will admit they probably came in last. BUT I believe they are probably the only ones who required an external DVR and if that had any effect. Also was wondering if it would help all other receivers out by adding a splitter and extra antennas as well???
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
All of these feeds were recorded using the same external DVR. That's the only way to ensure consistent results. Check the video description for a link to the DVR that I used.
@montypeak8417
@montypeak8417 6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell very excited I will be getting your fc on Friday for my second build! Can't wait!!
@ToddSalpen
@ToddSalpen 6 жыл бұрын
Man I am confused, are you testing all those Video Receivers plugged in to the EV200D?
@anchorandfaith6101
@anchorandfaith6101 6 жыл бұрын
Hi guys I am new to the hobby, and I think I am going to order the ev200d, can anyone help with suggesting the antennas I should buy, if male or female, connectros or other advice? This is all new to me so I know nothing! I want to order the whole deal at once as getting stuff shipped to Italy where I live from banggood takes like 45 days :-( Thanks for any advice you may have I am sure "I am gonna learn something today"! Thanks Joshua for the great videos you put out! Max from Rome
@stephenwalker3127
@stephenwalker3127 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua. With 800mhz becoming so popular with its range and penetration why have none of the manufacturers brought out an actual 800mhz transmitter rather than modules, just a thought. Keep up the good work.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
Ummm I don't know what you're talking about with 800 mHz. I don't think there is an unlicensed 809 mHz band in the United States.
@castin5244
@castin5244 6 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with the ev200d
@kc8omg
@kc8omg 6 жыл бұрын
You currently have the Eachine EV800D as your "Cheapest Worth Having" selection your list- would it be worth bumping to the FXT Viper for the ~50% increase in price? What if you throw the Transformer into the comparison? I guess I'd really be favoring "bang for the buck" over "absolute quality"...
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
The viper being 50% more means it can't be the cheapest worth having. But the fxt viper might displace the Transformer.
@kc8omg
@kc8omg 6 жыл бұрын
Understood on the "cheapest worth having", maybe the more precise version of my question would be: "At 50% more cost, does it have at least 50% better quality/features/capability to go with it?". If it's 50% more expensive, but only 25% "better", then it's not worth the increase, if I'm making sense at all...
@Doreo91
@Doreo91 6 жыл бұрын
EV200 defenitely impressive... even with 2 antennas was the best imo... i was looking for something cheap and decent... but is better than expected...i think it will be my next googles... thx JB!
@aidanhughes3655
@aidanhughes3655 6 жыл бұрын
Im honestly surprised with the performance of the ev200d’s. They look quite promising with the stock receivers. I think eachine have got a winner with these goggles.
@bleeksbentbits3150
@bleeksbentbits3150 6 жыл бұрын
The Transformer- was that the v1 or v1.1 please? I think v1.1 had different software or something.... Im using Genisis which has same software as v1 but there are files to update on the RCG forums... Switch to 4;3 for quads & then 16:9 for the planes, Ive got no complaints with their performance- for what it is -when using the Pagoda & Triple Feed together & making sure Patch (primary SMA) is covering main fly zone & I can get a good 2.5/3km out @ approx' 100/150meters using 200mw & up... Thank you again :)
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
V1.1.
@Politicallyhomeless957
@Politicallyhomeless957 6 жыл бұрын
BLeeKiis Too do you use the binocular viewer with your Transformer?
@bleeksbentbits3150
@bleeksbentbits3150 6 жыл бұрын
Ive got the Quanum/Fat Shark collabaration Genisis that was sold by Hobbyking... (Same as the box-set Doug (the) Crasher was wearing in RR Botgrinder) It's a foam clamshell style that has the same screen & electronics but with a strange grind to the magnifying lens similar to one of the FS boxes, but uniquely its own.... Bloody awesome things I reckon! Can switch from 4:3 for quads to 16:9 for my planes with a 5.5inch 720screen... :D
@dronereviewman9580
@dronereviewman9580 6 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for this!! I need to order new box goggles and this will help!!!! Hope you have a great 4th my friend!!! GREAT JOB & GREAT CHANNEL!! 👍😀👍 What do you think the best box goggles are??? Thinking about the viperFxt???? But so many pair's to choose from!! And if i can wait a month more will come out!!??
@edwardMcrichy
@edwardMcrichy 6 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend everybody watch this at two times normal speed not for the video but for the audio yes the audio is killer
@rl2769
@rl2769 6 жыл бұрын
I like trueD ( because that’s what I already have ) 👍👍 Great video Joshua.
@denihei
@denihei 6 жыл бұрын
Good job JB!! After i play this video, i just thinking "how to mod my EV to make screen bigger"!!
@fpvclub7256
@fpvclub7256 6 жыл бұрын
I actually think the 200D's did better overall in 2X.. I am quite impressed so far with the reviews on these...
@Superkuh2
@Superkuh2 Жыл бұрын
Too bad the FXT Viper (and V2) are both discontinued. Now there are no "cheaper" options for glasses wearers.
@Ammothief41
@Ammothief41 6 жыл бұрын
Nice. All things considered they all seem to work pretty well.
@lgrip1lgrip178
@lgrip1lgrip178 6 жыл бұрын
For a Budget and Quality set, I went with VTX Viper, No hate here,, be my 3rd set of googles,, 3 very good reviews at half the cost,, yeh, box googles,, and cash in my pocket,,
@youeladamas7840
@youeladamas7840 6 жыл бұрын
lol Eachine FTW do your best to give good feed back. lol Eachine being the underdog will force others to do better its all win for us in the hobbie to having good gear and more companies dropping their perspective on the best units. good stuff Teach this i think will open some eyes
@Leos-World
@Leos-World 6 жыл бұрын
EV200D is the winner for me. BTW, might be an idea to not name the items but instead number them and at the end disclose the manufacturer.
@M3talrocksFPV
@M3talrocksFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Haha you're awesome for adding the viper 👍🏻
@waynesrcspin4827
@waynesrcspin4827 6 жыл бұрын
Again another great review mate
@MrBumbles2
@MrBumbles2 6 жыл бұрын
just spend alot of money if it makes you feel better, they all look the same , budget seems the way too go
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 6 жыл бұрын
La forge looks to be doing best, but it's hard to tell, after watching Mr Steele's video and using my La forge for over 8 months now, Also watching guys I fly with having lots of multipathing. I know I made the right choice for just an average pilot like myself.
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, and and most important. Happy 4th of July Josh! Hope you and your family have a good one!
@getignited114
@getignited114 6 жыл бұрын
So what are your friends running that have breakup problems? The Laforge also?
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 6 жыл бұрын
getignited114 it's not so much break up problems it's multipathing picking up signal from each other, most of them are running Tru D and another guy is running a cheap ground station. I just had better luck than they have.
@getignited114
@getignited114 6 жыл бұрын
Was asking because im debating on getting the laforge v4 or true-d.. Current pro58 w/ achillies is crap and the screen flashes when it sees anything bright
@Fliptality
@Fliptality 6 жыл бұрын
achilles is actually better. just watch the recent test videos of mute and JB. lol
@bobert13581
@bobert13581 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, now I know that fancy receivers are a waste. Ev200d looks like what I would get as upgrade to ev800d
@TheMadmacs
@TheMadmacs 6 жыл бұрын
the ev200d looked a touch better even with 2x antenna... i would think this is just a fluke, or antennas slightly better match to quads... but my ev800d's have a similarly robust performance under truly stupid conditions, they have me flying.
@joliver1981
@joliver1981 6 жыл бұрын
Ev200 is most impressive. I think I’m going to have to buy them. Just take my money eachine. Take it! They got it right with the ev200.
@skinnyflea2628
@skinnyflea2628 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video :)
@danieldimitri6133
@danieldimitri6133 6 жыл бұрын
IMHO the ev200 looks as good as the LaForge even if it had 4 antennas to do it. They will probably be my first set of Google with 2 eye pieces. I got the Viper goggles for the price. The transformers looked like a good entry goggle but the price was just too close to some of the smaller goggles. Overall the ev200 and LaForge are the only ones that stood out at all. The rest weren't bad but about the same. I don't regret my purchase.
@ds3656
@ds3656 6 жыл бұрын
Genius moment right here..... Read on. There is something the EV200s have the potential to do that I think will be the future of fpv goggles. A lot of clever technology has gone into trying to displays the best image by somehow merging the fpv feed but what about each module (in the EV200s) displaying its fpv feed separately into each eye. The brain is a wonderful thing and will piece together the images itself. Of course DVR footage would not be able to capture this. You heard it here first!
@richosb100
@richosb100 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting concept! I wonder why none of the manufacturers have explored this yet?
@nasone32
@nasone32 6 жыл бұрын
no I did not read here first, because it's exactly what happens with goggles used in 3d mode with 2 transmitters (for example skyzones). and yes that works hella good.
@fpvfun922
@fpvfun922 6 жыл бұрын
will buy ev300D with 8 antenna diversity.
@rippingj6017
@rippingj6017 6 жыл бұрын
The ev200d, did good, we'll as expected with quad diversity, I was on the fence on getting these. Maybe I should of waited I ended up getting the hdo, with the rapid fire. Great demonstration.
@ugpfpv361
@ugpfpv361 6 жыл бұрын
ripping j hey if you've got the money...
@TheQuadcopterReview
@TheQuadcopterReview 6 жыл бұрын
Wow that dock king looks like it makes it worse actually.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
🙄
@safethefailfpv2021
@safethefailfpv2021 6 жыл бұрын
Damn… i think i need another solution… thanks for all the Information!
@strangeskull
@strangeskull 6 жыл бұрын
Ev200d = wow!!..... was not expecting that
@omg133777
@omg133777 6 жыл бұрын
where is rapidfire? *whiny voice* just joking :p btw. would you (or someone else) recommend for rapidfire tbs triumph and lumenier axii stubby. (usage for freestyle) would like to test it but my rapidfire is on preorder :/ if I understood correctly, rapidfire will put the pictures on top of each other and take the better picture or am I wrong?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that is exactly how RapidFire works, no. But I'm not sure how RapidFire works either... nobody really is except Immersion.
@omg133777
@omg133777 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for reply, then let's say it's the company secret as it works. but do you mean that the antennas kombinnation makes sense?
@raymondwilliams6878
@raymondwilliams6878 6 жыл бұрын
At one time these modules (clearview and rapidfire) advised to use the same antenna on each module. Now they suggest like we would use in freestyle normally -- an omni on one and a directional (patch, crosshair, helical, etc) on the other. This gives you coverage behind, above and around, while the directional will give you extended range in one direction!
@alerx94
@alerx94 6 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that we have a winner. Not an absolute winner but hey for 300 bucks i guess the 200d are almost a no brainer. Guess you have made me buying these, not a chance I'm wasting 500$ only for some oled screens and 0 receiver.
@deveneb8409
@deveneb8409 5 жыл бұрын
am i expected to not suffer from seizures while flying??? why so much flashing
@ArionRaine
@ArionRaine 6 жыл бұрын
What this sort of testing shows is that there is such little difference between any of them performance wise , it should be the least concerning factor when making a purchase decision. They all perform close enough that its essentially impossible to quantify. The little differences you may see in a particular frame, or stretch of time can hardly be chocked up to an actual difference in performance. Due to the wavelength, at about 51mm @ 5.8GHz , even minute differences in the position of the receivers is enough to create a difference in received signal due to multipathing/reflections etc. This is precisely why an anechoic chamber is required to weed out any real differences in RF performance. Real world testing really only shows you when there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in performance , which we simply do not have here. However, I would contend that the DockKing has a negative impact on what the viewer sees in the goggles. This is not to imply it has an impact on RF performance, which it shouldn't (other than minor effects which are unmeasurable objectively in this manner) Just that it is affecting the final product (what you see in the goggles) negatively for whatever reason.
@johneod7821
@johneod7821 6 жыл бұрын
TheWizard Agreed. We need nummbers here, not just videos. We need a way to show SNR/dB rating accurately at all times. maybe even a device that piggy backs on to the VTX and can analyze the wavelength and give us some numbers do we can stop guessing. Also, these different VTX's need to be flown IDENTICALLY. Only way to do truly do this is two-four or even six quads, same config, different VTX in an open field. Being controlled by one TX. All of them. There are WAY too many variables to do an accurate showdown. Interference changes from one second to the next even in the same spot. This would be the only way to accurately test mutiple VTX. They must fly the EXACT same path and simultaneously as well. Agreed my friend? What do you think?
@ArionRaine
@ArionRaine 6 жыл бұрын
Its such a difficult problem to get reliable data testing relatively like this. The performance of all these are so close, as they should be, testing them is essentially what I refer to as a "bullshit proposition". It just simply cant be done. It sounds good, and makes for a good attractant to get view count up, but its essentially a null result. RF in a highly variable, uncontrolled environment, especially at microwave frequencies, is essentially untestable relatively when the equipment is for all intents and purposes, identical. It would only show a wholly apparent issue that would manifest otherwise anyway and negate the need for this type of testing. Again, this is why there is highly specialized, very expensive artificial environments know as anechoic chambers. It really the only way to perform this sort of testing.
@ggordon4395
@ggordon4395 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised Fatshark transformer performs the worst, the receiving modules they using are sucks. Although FS got toppest technology, they cannot save themselves from bad receiver modules. Obviously True-D RX modules are way better.
@luisgravano6123
@luisgravano6123 6 жыл бұрын
you got the point.
@ooPROTOTYPE1oo
@ooPROTOTYPE1oo 6 жыл бұрын
Funny that the Fatshark seemed to look ordinary thinking that it's the most expensive.
@ryanzimmerman2375
@ryanzimmerman2375 6 жыл бұрын
I love my fxt vipers
@daslolo
@daslolo 5 жыл бұрын
Quality control is so bad on the ev200d that it's highly likely BG binned those before sending them for review.
@DJOetken
@DJOetken 6 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to look like a space moose!
@AlvinYeoh
@AlvinYeoh 6 жыл бұрын
The Dock King's performance is disappointing...I was really expecting some improvement over the True-D but it seems to make things worse instead.
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