Nezarec just hating the Shadow Legion because they suck is hilarious and I'm here for that shit.
@throwitouttheairlock9556 Жыл бұрын
I find it so hilarious that it seems if the traveller didn’t tunnel vision on the witness it might’ve taken out a LOT of the pyramids bc that mf beam DEMOLISHED that thing, but no it pulled a call of duty and decided to shoot at the juggernaut instead
@AdeptKing Жыл бұрын
Well it wouldn't really matter if she took everything but the most important one out. If she had taken the Witness out then the rest would have been easy.
@ChaosLordRey Жыл бұрын
The light does not destroy
@throwitouttheairlock9556 Жыл бұрын
@@AdeptKing My man’s the witness just decided to walk through the beam, at the very least try shooting some of the pyramids thatre getting close if you’re not damaging the main guy
@tincantank5174 Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosLordRey “The light provides” - Misraaks
@Sam-pr9rr Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosLordRey but we sure do
@dwaynewilliams6604 Жыл бұрын
You know I gata admit Savathun was a true manace, She killed 1 Disciple trapped the original Disciple Rhulk and broke the Witnesses ankles she is hands down Favorite D2 Character.
@mechamahou8467 Жыл бұрын
Savathun is an absolute beast. When she inevitably comes back as a tenuous ally in Final Shape I'm gonna simp so hard for arthro mommy
@MichealDarlow Жыл бұрын
@@mechamahou8467I would love if she becomes a vendor😂😂 I could imagine her and immaru arguing
@kirie0801 Жыл бұрын
I now understand that Nezarec is called the betrayer because Savathun framed him by stealing the Veil from the Witness and making it look like Nezarec did it. Very interesting.
@johnsaints969 Жыл бұрын
She wasn't playing around.
@SyIis Жыл бұрын
Still don't understand that part, feels like he's lying. The witness wants to end suffering, and nez doesn't want it to end.... By that logic, he would be on the traveler's side.
@kashaanalisiddqui3780 Жыл бұрын
@@SyIis all the Disciples's ideologies goes against the Witness The Witness doesn't see the disciple more than just pawns Calus revels in Destruction and Conquests while the Witness clearly has a disdain for it and gets angry at Calus Rhulk believes all life should die because life itself is meaningless and suffering while the Witness believes Life Should exist but only the the strongest ones should live And Nezarac who inflicts pain and suffering while the Witness wants to finish the pain and suffering of the universe Witness is above all these petty ideologies of its disciples. they are nothing but pawns to her which Savathun and Eramis cleary knows It only wants one thing and that is the Final Shape
@ValentinoMarino11 Жыл бұрын
@@SyIis Nezarec is just like guardians, a perfect fusion of light and dark. But instead of being aligned with the light, he’s aligned with the dark. I really think that’s all there is to it.
@SyIis Жыл бұрын
@D’Angelo That doesn't make sense considering he only recently had any part of light touch him and was killed by us the moment he was rebirthed through light and dark. And you say perfect fusion, but that's not right either. He gets rejected by both the light and dark, which is when we are allowed to damage him in the mechanics. So, waaaaaaay before we were guardians is where I'm talking about him betraying the witness.
@unfortunate7570 Жыл бұрын
I sleep well knowing DookieBootyFartWater was there to crush Nezarec and protect Sol.
@edtenorio100 Жыл бұрын
Osiris can't catch a break. Knowing Savathun, Osiris is totally screwed.
@ashb3378 Жыл бұрын
he is already being screwed in the back by saint 14
@Genesongx Жыл бұрын
@@morgannull4685 🥵🥵
@IC33E Жыл бұрын
Atleast he beat Nezerac, that Tea did wonders
@MagikSpellzz Жыл бұрын
@@ashb3378 is it a metaphor for his life or will saints exo sperm impregnate Osiris with a light baby? LORE.
@fracturedsolace145 Жыл бұрын
@Ash B I don't think exos have genitals.
@ITrayceI Жыл бұрын
did anyone else notice that the colors of nezerecs eyes match the colors of our subclasses and there are two eyes of colors we havent seen.
@V.VIIIBeanman Жыл бұрын
What are the two colors we havent seen?
@ohanashinbu Жыл бұрын
Look atthe picture in the beginning, he has 7 eyes, set in circular format, the two other eye colors are what appears to be a bright shining goldish color and a silverish color....I'd like to see what 2 classes they come up with for those if they release 🤔
@bentobias737 Жыл бұрын
…those are planets.
@kymnoir6779 Жыл бұрын
@@bentobias737 the point they were attempting to make’s this. Yes, while they are planets, their supposed to be respective to all of our subclasses to an extent
@nathanflinchum1153 Жыл бұрын
@@ohanashinbu imagine a kinetic subclass lmao
@nathanflinchum1153 Жыл бұрын
After hearing the monologue about “do you enjoy the screams of your enemies” it would’ve been interesting to see Fikrul (and the scorn) in the raid
@Thelegend_2121 Жыл бұрын
7:06 Nezarec is basically calling the shadow legion blueberries lol
@Bestow3000 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how'd he feel about Calus. LMAO
@gavo7911 Жыл бұрын
What if it wasn’t a piece of Nezarec that was on The Witness’ Pyramid? What if it was his scythe? As weird as that sounds, we’ve been reminded over and over that Darkness is all about consciousness, memories, and emotion. I’d wager that a weapon wielded by a monster like him that has destroyed countless worlds would have ample memories attached to it. So when those metaphysical imprints of Nezarec’s past slammed into the Traveler’s beam of Light, they were made manifest due to the Light being all about physicality. And thus, he was reborn in a new form, one that befits the Final God of Pain as he surely would like to be remembered.
@draccondracul2082 Жыл бұрын
Rhulk' glaive and Nezarec's scythe (a sword) should have been the raid exotics for these raids. I miss the time when raid exotics were actually tied to te bosses and told a story. Touch of malice made of Oryx's heart etc. These new exotics don't feel like they're connected to the raid in any way.
@alexioa142 Жыл бұрын
@@draccondracul2082 Well if you think about it, the exotic shotgun from Root of Nightmares is connected with the lore. Since it has both Stasis and Solar parts/dmg on it, it's like power of Light (Solar) + power of Darkness (Stasis), so it obviously refers to the beam of light shooted by the Traveller inside the ship (which ended in this fusion of Light and Dark on the weapon).
@draccondracul2082 Жыл бұрын
@@alexioa142 and we got that gun by doing what exactly? Don't get me wrong, I understand that it kind of matches the theme, the issue I have is that this weapon just appears in our hands. We don't take it from the boss, we don't make it ourselves from the parts of the boss etc. Why is this weapon there and how do we get it by killing this particular boss. These things are missing.
@CGR1410 Жыл бұрын
Although that sounds cool it’s basically confirmed that the witness found his bare head remaining and put it in the caramel
@MRbug_423 Жыл бұрын
Resurrected Nezarec is essentially like us. A hybrid of Light and Dark
@michaelwyssen5326 Жыл бұрын
The whole aesthetic really reminds me of another game, remnant: from the ashes. Its main enemies, kinda like the hive in destiny are called the root and thee whole idea and vibe are really similar to this raid.
@fernandogallegos7419 Жыл бұрын
I just looked it up, and even one of the Google images has a character very similar looking to the warlock wielding what seems to be a freaking glaive....uh what!?
@cameronsimons614 Жыл бұрын
@@fernandogallegos7419 yeah there are tons of melee weapons in that game, it’s like dark souls with guns
@michaelwyssen5326 Жыл бұрын
@Fernando Gallegos I know, right? I played the game it is actually great but pretty short. They released a DLC for it at some point that explains the origin story. It's really interesting for a small game. But just like Destiny it would be hard to piece together if it wasn't for some legends on YT making full explanation videos about it. I remember one area towards the end of it, close to the final boss, where you fight your way through the original lab where it all started and spread from. It's all overgrown, looks alot like RoN
@fernandogallegos7419 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelwyssen5326 only on steam I suppose. Don't have a rig yet. The aesthetics are pretty dope. I'll watch a yt video on it to check it out.
@fernandogallegos7419 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronsimons614 sick!
@spiders9360 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I can't play Destiny. So videos like these are my only way of staying up to date on the lore. Thanks for making these videos, man!
@TeaRex12 Жыл бұрын
Crushing it with the content lately!! I've been waiting for this video!
@blockade4961 Жыл бұрын
For anyone who doesn't know Rhulk is not dead from Vow of the Disicple. Those branches pretty much put him in a healing, recovering state. Plus it has already been stated in lore that he is still alive. I'm hoping to see him come back bc in my opinion, he still is one of the best raid bosses, from design to his voice acting and his fight.
@backwards984 Жыл бұрын
Where did you find this info
@josephr.2763 Жыл бұрын
Nope, he is dead. I have his leg as an exotic gun to prove it 😂
@aygaion2295 Жыл бұрын
He is dead bro, no healing mode, gone,dead, game over, kick the bucket, gone.
@XxDeathxX509 Жыл бұрын
Fynch literally says he’s dead lol
@ARegularMarsBar Жыл бұрын
@@XxDeathxX509 from what fynch knows. Fynch is not a genius on the witness' inventions. The branches are healing the disciples, tjey cannot be killed from what us guardians know.
@zxy_dxrk8931 Жыл бұрын
Hello everyone I have a theory I would like to share just a fun theory but my theory is that the reason nezarec is probably seen as a god and worshipped by the psions is cause he was a great psion flayer before he ever met the witness and was seen as a warrior among he people and then when he met the witness, and when the witness gave him his powers of the dark he transformed as how you see him in the raid now, so what my theory is that the tormentor’s are psions are mutated darkness psions and here are some similarities between the psions and tormentors to back up my theory, first the psions use a attack which is a purple energy ball that goes through the ground and sends you upward doing damage, a tormentor use a attack which is a purple portal/ whirlwinds that come flying at you and knocks you upward and back just like the normal psion move but 10x stronger, another similarity is there meele attacks, a psion meele attack would hit you with a purple blast from the palm of their hands, a tormentors meele/grab is which they hold you in their and hands and hit with multiple purple blast coming out the palm of their hands. To finish this theory the tormentors we fight in a lightfall are chosen psions by Nezarec and gave them his power, hints as some of the tormentors name such as, imprints of Nezarec
@JeffreyAppSteam Жыл бұрын
No. The witness only had the head of nezerac. He got Put on a buffed tormentor body. We have his pieces. All but the head. Eramis took it and brought at to the witness. He asked in the raid if we happen to know who his body parts took cause He cant even track them down.
@ThePlatinumMeta Жыл бұрын
@@JeffreyAppSteam Well he was a disciple before he died during the collapse, I don't think what you stated contradicts with Zxy_Dxrk's theory. It still makes sense that Nezarec was a psion before he was a disciple
@nemokrad2650 Жыл бұрын
Except he predates their civilization most likely. And did the same to the Eliksni and to humanity for a time.
@JeffreyAppSteam Жыл бұрын
@@ThePlatinumMeta oh Yeah i didnt mean that to be not true but the second Part isnt
@simonwahlen7150 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffreyAppSteam Just pointing out that Nezerac's head wasn't put on a tormentor body. The tormentor body literally grows from the head as we explore the raid. In the begining after the first encounter if you look inside the crystal you se the shoulders and parts of a torso attached to the the helmet. After we activate the root and return to the final encounter he has a full body in the crystal and burst out. It seems like light healing gave him that tormenter body. In my opinion it is the tormentors that are copies of Nezerac not the other way around. The lore says that tormentors are a result of cooporation between the witness and cabal I see 2 ways this could be true. 1) Nezerac is from a lost species and the Tormentors are darkness enhanced cabal tech clones of him. 2) He was a "god thought" mega psion flayer harvesting power from other psions before being recruited by the witness and Tormentors are other psions inbued with parts of his power.
@emperorholocron8278 Жыл бұрын
Rule 1 of Destiny: It’s always Savathûn.
@oNextq Жыл бұрын
She’s the Aizen of destiny
@Derpyderp316 Жыл бұрын
@@oNextq honestly the most accurate comparison I’ve seen
@soren2966 Жыл бұрын
How the hell is she always getting use with this 'all acording to keikaku bs'
@Genesongx Жыл бұрын
Not only she took the veil and killed him but got the audacity to accuse Nezarec of treason by saying he took it to himself so she had to stop him She's on her own league
@juuzousuzuya654 Жыл бұрын
It was me Barry!
@tomlockey Жыл бұрын
That "kaleidoscope" style light on the Traveller is also present in Savathun's Throne World. Noticed it today when I was just sparrowing around. Must be something to it. A connection or must have some sort of power or something
@aalaliali1 Жыл бұрын
The best ever person to speak off destiny 2 , much appreciated for your excessive effort❤
@rjawiygvozd Жыл бұрын
Great video format, i've been looking for something like this for a while. Most raid related videos focus on mechanics which i don't care about since i'm generally so bored of playing the game at this point that i never have patience to level even a single character enough for higher level content to be playable. But i still follow the story somewhat and it's nice to see what the raid is about in general and hear all the voice lines and take a look at all the visuals.
@Martalo7 Жыл бұрын
I just keep picturing Nezarec writing in a journal that is too small for his size 😂
@adriandj3141 Жыл бұрын
My only beef is his design. After all these years he should look far more badass and imposing.
@lixoid4010 Жыл бұрын
Right I was expecting something like rhulk tbh
@marcosjuarez8341 Жыл бұрын
Maybe during the beginning of season of the deep we’ll go to the witnesses pyramid and go into the planet room and bring back titan
@applinarcus Жыл бұрын
“The power to move worlds will soon be yours “-Savathun. Imagine lol.
@marcosjuarez8341 Жыл бұрын
@@applinarcus I completely forgot that savathun said that during two lies and two truths
@AttiMatter Жыл бұрын
@@marcosjuarez8341 Oh wow! Imagine how this could tie into the DCV as a whole and returning content. The community could vote to “move” destinations in and out as they please! With the Witness missing, that room will no doubt tie into her statement. I believe we’ve the other truth.
@gizdurango0135 Жыл бұрын
If Nezarec was revived by the traveler, does that make the traveler his ghost? And him the first person to every be directly revived by the traveler?
@manticoredog2501 Жыл бұрын
Adding this to reasons why Rasputin should have just nuked the traveler
@gavo7911 Жыл бұрын
It’s possible he wasn’t revived as a Guardian in the traditional sense, but the Light’s ability to create matter rebuilt his body from the memories and emotions he caused.
@iCore7Gaming Жыл бұрын
Well, the traveller gives and creates life. It created the ghosts for some sort of self-defense. But no I wouldn't say the traveller is Nezarec's ghost lol. Going back to the "flower game" aka IRL as Conways game of life.
@jaredtherock5692 Жыл бұрын
@Gavo It's interesting that besides his head, his form and even his previous corpse doesn't match what we see as him now. I wonder if that memory of him gave him a slightly different form.
@XxDeathxX509 Жыл бұрын
The traveler shot it’s beam to make the tree of silver wings. One of the branches from the tree stabbed through one of the remains of nezarec, entombed in a vessel. Nezarec from beyond the grave used the root of this tree, fused with light energy, to revive himself
@EmmL1223 Жыл бұрын
The root that goes through the capsule of Nezarec chamber looks awfully familiar of the murals inside Rhulks pyramid, how the root looks like a tree trunk then some sort of geometric branch.
@DaanTheDad Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about this aswell. we seen that design before but what does it depict? Might this be hinting at the final shape... light (root) combined with darkness (nazarecs tomb) creates a new shape that is both geometric and organic looking?
@driverslineocsz4418 Жыл бұрын
I mean….have you not had age old Nezquik? It’ll turn any situation into a nightmare.
@xavierrogers6918 Жыл бұрын
the piece that the witness held was his head, im not sure why the rest of his body turned into a tormentor like body but he does mention that this body is limiting his power and if he had his normal body it would be over for us which is probably true
@ArthurStolyar Жыл бұрын
Got a recording of those voice lines?
@katalyst_ Жыл бұрын
Probably isn't true, this would assume he stronger then rhulk which is unlikely considering he got shit on by savathun and savathun couldn't do anything to rhulk
@chegg4312 Жыл бұрын
@@katalyst_ I think the reason savathun defeated nezarec is from her backstabbing him, I'm assuming the order of event went, savathun kills nez, then rhulk gets sent to her throne world to keep an eye on her, then savathun seals rhulk in his ship
@midnighthydro7434 Жыл бұрын
@@katalyst_Rhulk was playing with us the entire time. The only time he actually started fighting was during final stand
@NovemberHotel Жыл бұрын
The Root of my Nightmares? Nimbus
@Banana-Boi Жыл бұрын
Or as i call him "Cringus".
@not.skywalker Жыл бұрын
more like the root of wet dreams
@booshninja431 Жыл бұрын
And Champions
@Ghost_Yoda Жыл бұрын
so unfunny, I mean this comment, your whole channel is complaining
@A_Tonk Жыл бұрын
Same recycled song used in all your videos. Use something original 🤡stop being a re-skinner like your favorite company bungo. Every video is the same song, with your same crybaby complaints worded differently 🤡🤡
@AJASH2005 Жыл бұрын
Only ogs will remember that the name of this channel was actually evade
@TheWeezyfly Жыл бұрын
The pyramid is the witness pyramid just in case anyone was wondering which one
@seeker_rodan3113 Жыл бұрын
Love how it looks no different from the other pyramids
@JeffreyAppSteam Жыл бұрын
@@seeker_rodan3113 it doesnt need too. Different means Ego and the Witness has no Ego as far as i can see.
@seeker_rodan3113 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffreyAppSteam different does not mean ego, it's distinction Authority stands out Not asking for Calus levels of needing to stand out
@reecem.770 Жыл бұрын
@@seeker_rodan3113its like 5x bigger than any other pyramid
@JeffreyAppSteam Жыл бұрын
@@seeker_rodan3113 true
@traditur_ Жыл бұрын
“We both know you guardians can’t resist unanswered questions.”
@nathanflinchum1153 Жыл бұрын
Bruh after seeing the side by side of the witness cutscene from WQ with the raid area… that thing is massive, not counting the smoke stack it’s at minimum about 3 people tall, honestly it’s probably larger than Calus was in the campaign
@Plaidbobcat Жыл бұрын
6:00 is bungie mocking us after light falls unanswered questions
@intelli-gent9863 Жыл бұрын
I figured that was a funny jab the developers put in, it honestly make me chuckle.🤭
@k1llerrabit Жыл бұрын
Yeah, after finishing campaign Osiris and Amanda also make comments emphasizing the fact this expansion didn't move the plot forward at all and it makes me roll my eyes so hard because it isn't something Bungie should be bragging about at all lol, its like they keep reminding us how bad they messed up in terms of storytelling this dlc.
@Tywil714 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it really kills the stakes of the series when we keep killing these supposed god-like beings who were around for billions of years with mortal weapons. The wittness must really be on the travelers' level of power if it can just kill garudians and ghosts with a wisp of its hand.
@miniverse2002 Жыл бұрын
Aren't the mechanics of every raid boss suppose to be the lore reason why they're taken down by ordinary weaponry? All the way back the beginning: "Guardians make their own fate."
@gaiofattos2 Жыл бұрын
Guardians can empower their weapons with light, that's why guardians have a chance against the Hive gods and disciples.
@GrimViridian Жыл бұрын
Well in this case his body had just been rebuilt by the energies of light and dark quite literally right before we fought him. He was incredibly weakened and we still had to use light and dark energy (a giant beam that starts the damage phase) to even be able to hurt him, honestly we got lucky here, and in rhulks case he was severely weakened by the light in savathuuns throneworld
@sternguard8283 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, fynch even states that savathun placed a hefty light curse on rhulks pyramid, trapping him inside.
@ValentinoMarino11 Жыл бұрын
Guardians don’t just brute force their way to killing these gods. We use every advantage we have and abuse weaknesses our enemies have + our paracausal nature.
@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar Жыл бұрын
I didn't even realize the first encounter and last one where with the same root!
@mrbliv102 Жыл бұрын
K at 5:34 I have to applaud this fireteam. Your guys fashion is ON POINT GOOD SIRS very clean especially the titan second from the left.
@dawinswaitingroom Жыл бұрын
No the titan stabbed his own eyes out when he saw the new raid armor he had to wear ☠️
@theplanetsaturnlol Жыл бұрын
the gauntlets and helmet are sick tho
@hamooze3538 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe a raid boss was a normal sized centurion 😭😭😭 at least super size em bruh
@rustycrowbar4250 Жыл бұрын
And nezarec just tormentor but big enven the same attacks😭
@alexbelieves5818 Жыл бұрын
Bro raid is wack not even gonna both VoD was much better
@joeyno137 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping it was the leaked psion
@Nadiki Жыл бұрын
@@joeyno137 seems like everybody thought that psion would be the explicator but we never saw him. I wonder what he’ll actually be?
@Gtxgoldennugget Жыл бұрын
@@Nadiki probabaly a dungeon boss
@xXx_Regulus_xXx Жыл бұрын
the partially terraformed pyramid is actually sick af
@GarcoIni Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one to notice that one of the planets seen in the macrocosm is Io?, meaning we could be going back there soon.
@IASEAGLE5 Жыл бұрын
The planets are very interesting. We basically know Titan is coming back at some point. Io should as well.
@AdeptKing Жыл бұрын
Asher is in the vex network so the groundwork is all there.
@roar247 Жыл бұрын
The planet room was (what I believe) to be the same room from the WQ cutscene that introduced the witness since this is the witness’s pyramid. This means it has all the planets in the sol system. I have not done the raid yet but I believe this is the case, if someone can confirm that’d be great
@AttiMatter Жыл бұрын
@@roar247 I’ve finished the encounter. The room has every plant and moon we’ve been to in the Sol system, including the Traveler.
@darbs1832 Жыл бұрын
idk about you, but I'm just happy 'DookieBootyFartWater' was there for the ride with you.
@yukoimichi8613 Жыл бұрын
So Savathun emprisoned Rhulk, kicked Nezarec and hided the Veil on Neptune. Some say she just used us to retrieve her memory after she gained the light... Could explain why the traveler gave it to her...
@joaoschmidt7777 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that by now the traveller was going to be far from the Witness on her throne world, if not by us
@midnighthydro7434 Жыл бұрын
@@joaoschmidt7777the witness would have easily ripped into her throne world, throne worlds are inherently linked to the darkness/sword logic. Which I'll remind you is kinda the witness's thing
@joaoschmidt7777 Жыл бұрын
@@midnighthydro7434 throne worlds are a pocket dimension between physical and meta physical planes. And we all know the witness would have just break the door of her throne world but again, why would the witness go there? He searched for the traveller for thousands of years and only had a clue of its location when the traveller did his twinkle twinkle little star thing
@midnighthydro7434 Жыл бұрын
@@joaoschmidt7777 Because where else would he look? Also you don't think someone would tell him?
@joaoschmidt7777 Жыл бұрын
@@midnighthydro7434 idk like... The whole universe? The witness is powerful but is not omnipotent
@KyngFishN Жыл бұрын
Sorry I’m not familiar with the lore. So that wasn’t Nezerac’s actual body? But his “essence” was in that tormenter?
@twiztidmouse0 Жыл бұрын
The body you see in the drawing is actually a place holder (according to Reddit its actually a likeness to Rulk's body) But the one we see in the raid is Nez's actual body... the Tormentors are clones of him, thats why they look like that.
@Lorentz_Driver Жыл бұрын
@@twiztidmouse0 no that body was constructed for him
@Fancy_Squad Жыл бұрын
@@Lorentz_Driver Nope, during the raid nez's body regenerates, in the first area you see just a head and part of a torso, in the final encounter he has a whole body. The light had reconstructed his old body
@KyngFishN Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for your responses!
@icarusrising2787 Жыл бұрын
@@Fancy_Squad not really... if you'd actually played the raid you'd have heard him talk about his missing pieces
@Shortorderboy1048 Жыл бұрын
Savathun really put in some work over the years
@Xenronnify Жыл бұрын
So right now I'm spin-foiling, but I wanted to write it down before I forget. Nezarec mentioned the Veil holds "the sapid secret of [the Witness'] first victims." Sapid means 'having a strong, pleasant taste', and coupled with the phrasing of "victims", I would argue Nezarec is saying that the Veil is comprised of some fear/pain/loss of the first species the Witness sacrificed in its pursuit of the Final Shape. Now, given that we also hear that Strand is a byproduct or 'trace' left from the Veil's creation or existence (not sure which, maybe both), and that Strand is 'The River of Souls' to the Neomuni, then it has to do with life force, similar to how Deepsight deals with memory and Stasis deals with entropy. Nezarec considers the Veil and its' creation to be "strongly pleasant tasting," which to him would mean it would have to do with something awful. So, SO --- If strand (a byproduct of the Veil) is related to life-force, and the Veil gives it off, and Nezarec likes it as one does a dessert.... The Veil may very well BE the remnants of that "first species" the Witness encountered (read: destroyed). Now when we take this interpretation, and couple it with the strange "veiled female figure" statues seen in various Pyramids (and Clarity Control), and the name "Veil" starts making more and more sense. These statues are, perhaps, remnants or effigies of this "first species" - one that must be truly ancient, since the Witness was already quite old when it came to claim the proto-Hive species. Yikes.
@Anchor-Supreme Жыл бұрын
Interesting. So the Veil was originally on Earth and Savathunn transported it to Neptune.
@fernandogallegos7419 Жыл бұрын
Why don't we have an enemy log/description booklet in-game?
@Jaleel_HS Жыл бұрын
thatll come with the 16th year update
@fernandogallegos7419 Жыл бұрын
@@Jaleel_HS dont play with me man lol
@evilformerlys4704 Жыл бұрын
Considering how long it hasn't shown up, it's because it's unnecessary. Why, we know all the races and their accompanying variations within each. No one actually gives a crap about those distinctions because they aren't necessary to functionally enjoy what you're playing. Unlike traditional RPG titles which needs you to know which enemy to farm for what item to drop, Destiny drops are actually separated by the exact mission you're in, or locale you're on. Over world drops, specific type nightfall drops, so knowing the bestiary is absolutely pointless in this game.
@ringomandingo1015 Жыл бұрын
Grimoire cards from d1 about specific enemies and enemy factions: (forgotten)
@jonathanosborne7509 Жыл бұрын
Drifter once said he'd been to the Fourth Tomb of Nezarec. I doudt he's gone for good
@lordferbus2970 Жыл бұрын
That's where he got one of the relics containing a part of Nezarec We had to collect a bunch during season of the plunder
@theodorecyngiser2841 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, I am going to need you to explain to me how Mykel met an Eliksni captain, psion, and a titan “long before the golden age” when none of these things where in sol until after the golden age
@ArthurStolyar Жыл бұрын
Yeah, same question
@ringomandingo1015 Жыл бұрын
Lore fumble
@LORD-ICONOCLAST Жыл бұрын
@@ringomandingo1015 Nope, just poorly worded in the video. His family, going back as far as pre-golden age worshipped Nezarec. Mykel himself is not living pre-golden age
@theodorecyngiser2841 Жыл бұрын
@@LORD-ICONOCLAST I’m sorry, but that still is full of issues. Does that mean that the cult of nezerac formed during the collapse (when nezerac would have first arrived in sol if he was following the witness), survived the collapse, and is an active part of the present day setting despite having not been mentioned since at least the golden age
@LORD-ICONOCLAST Жыл бұрын
@@theodorecyngiser2841 mykels family worshipped Nez since before the collapse. They have a Tome containing symbols and images of nezarec, presuming it has some influence over them and is driving them to worship. I'm not sure what parts you're taking issue with. Mykel is one guy and as far as we are aware he's influenced a Psion, an eliksni, and a Titan. There's no reason he would've been mentioned before now, he's not exactly done much noteworthy
@ItMeLeftie Жыл бұрын
Can't quite put my finger on it but something about the opening cut scene and nezzy laughing ominously was not as scary as intended. Maybe it has something to do with a guardian by the name of DookieBootyFartWater
@maxniemi4584 Жыл бұрын
THIS RAID IS THE MOST VISUALLY STUNNING RAID BUNGIE HAS EVER CREATED AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE MY MIND
@Arevir6892 Жыл бұрын
Okay, now I need an ornament for Nezarec sin of his actual face.
@dezman311 Жыл бұрын
Nezeracs eyes being all subclass colors except two is pretty cool tbh
@Link124 Жыл бұрын
Nezarek is imbued with the light? So are those ancient remains of him also retroactively imbued like does Osiris wield the light again by succession
@wren4077 Жыл бұрын
No. Don't be a nerd. Ancient remains are just pieces of meat now.
@yulee3266 Жыл бұрын
@@wren4077 whats wrong with being a nerd?
@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar Жыл бұрын
Ok, but who is rufus, and why does his auto rifle slap?
@Tallermage Жыл бұрын
It'd be really cool if the light tree transformed the pyramid ship from the inside out into a light pyramid that the traveler can use to combat others
@Gravesyte Жыл бұрын
Maybe Savathun wasn't so bad after all just misunderstood
@kidoliva Жыл бұрын
Before the recent stuff, I always thought Nezerac was a Guardian gone bad
@jonnie1632 Жыл бұрын
i dont understand what you said about the armour lore, how would a pre golden age man get in contact with eliksni and psions?? and then a guardian which wouldnt have had existed???
@DerdOn0ner Жыл бұрын
2:34 well, strand was supposed to be in Witch Queen, I am sure of it
@awesomeguy9513 Жыл бұрын
My best guess is the witness pyramid ship must of had nezeracs heart or head in the tomb and the light blast mixed with the darkness and brought him back as a hybrid. I say heart/head cause that seems the most logical to bring him back and for the witness to keep and he probably took it before nezerac was chopped up
@GiorgosAigio96 Жыл бұрын
he probably had it stored on the statue of nezarec as well hence his quick revival
@franciscoandres4907 Жыл бұрын
According to the hunter set, the Fallen actually AVOIDED taking anything from the head. The Captain in the loretabs says it was likely out of fear, and when he took an eye, it ended up causing him unbearable pain. It's possible that during the Witness' attack, it sent some forces to the moon to recover whatever's left of Nezarec, and all that was left was the head.
@kinglarry3727 Жыл бұрын
where do you find the Hi-Rez image of Nezerac
@voidsss7021 Жыл бұрын
Probably takes them himself
@franciscoandres4907 Жыл бұрын
Are we sure he's REALLY gone for good this time, and we didn't just send his mind back into the VexNet or a Throne World or something? He was already killed during the collapse, and he still came back despite his original body being cut up (which reminds me that there could still be bits and pieces of him floating around). Hell, the Conditional Finality Loretab says that he's always welcomed and embraced death, implying that even that wasn't the first time he's been killed. And why would Savathun go as far as to curse his remains? Something tells me that this isn't the first time Nezzy's kicked the bucket, nor will it be the last.
@sternguard8283 Жыл бұрын
Your probably right, Nezarec is like a cockroach
@XxDeathxX509 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the guardian from the titan set KILLS his ghost to allow himself to cut out his eyes because his ghost kept regenerating his eyes back. I think that’s the most chilling revelation of that story
@Eliass234 Жыл бұрын
I love the design of Nezarec. He looks very similar to Rhulk and Tormentors, although it confuses me since I thought he was eliksni
@lordferbus2970 Жыл бұрын
We don't know what species Nezarec is But the Tormentors are modelled after him hence why there are some with the title of "Imprint of Nezarec"
@FirstTruth Жыл бұрын
The eliksni cut up his body, nothing says he’s eliksni
@Shweaty7 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I can’t wait to see how more lore builds. I can’t even play the game cuz it’s been broken for weeks and I am excited to come back and see the expansion while recognizing the lore as it goes. Very intricate seasons ahead.
@jaredf.6532 Жыл бұрын
What if his curse if being brought back as a guardian. He has the travelars light now. So its possible. Savathun cursing him to be the betrayer to serve the traveler. That would be a fun thing to do. Very doubtful to happen
@rioichikurosaki6435 Жыл бұрын
So we ran out of things to kill, we resurrect something to kill. Sounds like something a loot hungry gremlin like us would do. 😂
@creepy6054 Жыл бұрын
We will see nezarec definitely again in future dlc, he has multiple tombs apparently and cult that worship him, there is no way he is dead for good
@theTariray Жыл бұрын
The person affected from the relics was Mithrax remember? The animated cutscenes show him getting tormented as he tries to make neztea
@rax2200 Жыл бұрын
That Mykel lore makes no sense, how is he interacting with these races and guardians if he's ancient.
@TedyhereMC Жыл бұрын
Mykel isn't ancient.. his family line has worshipped Nezrac for generations.. he was just the latest. I think Evaze just misspoke
@10s3r1 Жыл бұрын
"COME ON, MYKEL!" its always dudes named mykel
@Aurich88 Жыл бұрын
Nezarec's cool and all, but what happened to Xivu Arath? They were building her up all season of Seraph, and then I think there was one line of dialogue that said she fucked off after the warsat network was destroyed? She have somewhere better to be?
@jaredf.6532 Жыл бұрын
Probably somewhat lying low cause its the Witness arrived or saw some kind of shit and doesn't want to interfere until afterwards to plunder the spoils of the war
@allentayoto7387 Жыл бұрын
3:31 hold up. "First victims"? Could this be referring to the very first civilization the Traveler gifted the light to?
@joshuawhite4113 Жыл бұрын
This could also refer to the encounter in the new raid
@pkmn7777777 Жыл бұрын
So- do we know if Calus’s ship he takes to Neomuna is confirmed to be the Luna pyramid? We never see it fly out and it feels like a bigger deal if That Pyramid was taken, wouldn’t that mean nightmares on the moon went away? Obviously he probably did take that pyramid and they don’t want to draw attention to it, making the Shadowkeep story null. But it’s still an unanswered question. And as for the witness finding a piece of his body- when was that? Recently? Did a follower find a piece since season of arrivals? I’m wondering if the traveler rezzing Nezarec was a 5d chess move for some yet-discovered reason. It doesn’t look like it hurt the witness any, so I wonder if the beam intended to resurrect Nezarec or the interaction of light and dark in the pyramid is more important than it seems. Also, I bet the Explicator of Planets was a cabal from Mars he recruited to give guidance about Mars, Io, Titan, etc. Could be how he knew about the Bray center from the Spire dungeon
@lordferbus2970 Жыл бұрын
The Typhon imperator isn't the lunar pyramid That would literally make no sense
@pkmn7777777 Жыл бұрын
@@lordferbus2970 yeah I agree, but where did Calus get his own ship? He literally uploaded his mind to it last we saw of him
@lordferbus2970 Жыл бұрын
@@pkmn7777777 Darkness powers The Witness most likely made the Typhon Imperator
@lordferbus2970 Жыл бұрын
How is Mykel pre-golden age if he encountered a Psion, Eliksni, and a Titan? Was he resurrected or something?
@josephjones4771 Жыл бұрын
He himself isn't, but his family has worshipped Nez since even before the Golden Age, as he does now.
@phoemnix2999 Жыл бұрын
@@josephjones4771 but if he met a titan, it would NEED to be quite a bit after the dark age began, since there were no guardians let alone light bearers until the collapse
@wanderingmercurymarauder761 Жыл бұрын
@@phoemnix2999 His family lineage worshipped Nez, as in generations.
@intelli-gent9863 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making these videos! I dropped Destiny quite a while ago and you are the best source I have to keep up-to-date on lore. After completely catching up, I've got to say, Destiny's lore it's such a huge mess and all over the place. Bungie has a really bad habit of answering people's questions with more questions until it becomes a huge confusing web of unanswered plot points where Savathun is always behind everything. All this buildup and DLCs, and we still know next to nothing about those pyramids and who the hell the Witness is. My prediction is after 5 DLCs or so, maybe just maybe Bungie will give us a crumb. Something tells me that after we solve this whole Traveler and Witness predicament we probably will take on The Nine next. It's a shame that this is what Destiny has devolved into but I'm happy that people are at least having fun playing it.
@WhenToastersAttack Жыл бұрын
I really do hope this isn’t the last we see or hear of him. This is not enough payoff for years of buildup.
@damianlorenzi7155 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about the disciples of the witness and their eyes, so bungie has something with the number 7 there are as of jet 3 confirmed disciples, Nezarec, Rhulk and Calus. Nezarec has 7 eyes, Rhulk has 6 eyes and Calus 2. So speculate if one would add one disciple from the Hive with 3 eyes and one from the fallen with 4 eyes there would be left with 1-eyed and 5-eyed to have all 7 disciples (if there are 7) with each the amount of eyes from 1 to 7! is this to far fetched for a theorie?
@guinetik Жыл бұрын
I love how the word scission means split and is specially used in the context of DNA **strands**
@AdeptKing Жыл бұрын
Hearing that Savathun is the one who killed Nezarec before makes me question why she didn't just tell Mara and the Guardians what she was up to. If she couldn't do it while she had her worm then I wonder why she couldn't do it after she had the light. A lot of fighting could have been avoided if she had.
@spacemegalodon5049 Жыл бұрын
When she became a guardian she lost all her memories and had to trick us into regaining some of her memories.
@pockle6968 Жыл бұрын
Who would trust the god of lies ?
@DNSchank Жыл бұрын
One this I don´t understand is WHEN did Savathun killed Nezarec and where would be nice to know aswell. Do you know?
@lordferbus2970 Жыл бұрын
@Xetrus Gaming around the time of the collapse I guess
@XxDeathxX509 Жыл бұрын
The second her worm was excised Mara sov tried to SHANK her. I don’t think we gave off a “talkative” vibe to her. She tried to reason with us during the witch queen campaign and our ghost yelled at her in a rage. She knew us as an ally wasn’t an option back then. Now that the guardians know what she was up to however the alliance with the hive might actually be possible
@lumayne8829 Жыл бұрын
yet again the lore entries far exceed the actual story thats given to all players
@AlleluyaChuu Жыл бұрын
He didnt beam :D What pierce through is an arrow, you can see on the far right of the "tumb" of Nezerec, an antenna like shape, from distance it really looks like a projectile.
@oilycarnival1324 Жыл бұрын
Lmao, the Traveler got nervous and just went straight for the head
@1sosluke770 Жыл бұрын
if the witness knew about the warlords then that pretty much confirms he transcends death
@notrealatall810 Жыл бұрын
In the lore tab for the raid weapon the magic savathun used sounds like strand but i could be a screach
@chrisreilly1290 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap the planetarium is in the witch queen cutscene!
@Aza-Rootz Жыл бұрын
Great video bro keep up the great work 👍👍
@OutPeachyToe Жыл бұрын
I love you channel nice vid👍
@DabiToyaTodoroki1 Жыл бұрын
i think with the unfo we gain during lightfall the gaurdian might be the one to help revive savathun ~🐱
@samuelviden7412 Жыл бұрын
I guess you could say he was… nezarrected for the raid.
@chrisozorio2487 Жыл бұрын
And all of this is Shawn Han fault
@hancraft3d Жыл бұрын
10:29 can someone explain how this cinematic made? its soo cool, is it some free cam hacks or something?
@IGniTo100 Жыл бұрын
What a cool villain, so sad the the encounter itself is hella underwhelming.
@newtypeshot Жыл бұрын
Where did you get all these amazing dynamic clips from the raid? Did you capture them yourself?
@eggsymangerz5112 Жыл бұрын
The Final God of Pain during Contest was a Legit threat The Final God of Pain Now hits half as hard as the Yellow bars in the same encounter BRUH
@thyagoscts Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I really appreciate your work and I wish your videos had English subtitles so I could translate them into Portuguese.
@Super_khan Жыл бұрын
I bet the witness is inside the traveler having a feast with someone and having a laugh at us going against nezarec. Like why else would he beam that one ship where Nezarec sleeping?
@HandsomeFred Жыл бұрын
How do you makes those clips from a low point or view or the orbit of the planets? Are really nice!
@lorenblueearth5657 Жыл бұрын
What if savathun looked at the destiny universe as a chess game and she is 17 moves ahead of everyone except Mara sov. Who herself is playing chess and is both smart and very strategic in how she plays her pieces and know that savathun will eventually come knocking. From the ending scene we are gonna be fighting inside the traveler for a final battle that could be very epic and awesome