EVE Fanfest 2015: Sion's Guide to Utlitarian Realpolitik

[@pherocks2634]

The level of depth in Eve is shown right here. This man has a passion for what he does and you can hate for what he stands for but you can also listen to him and see what a fantastic kind of mmo Eve Online realy is as these guys do a ton of work behind the curtain and make alot of stuff happen.

[@polko59]

Too many people don't appreciate just how different EVE is to every other multiplayer game that's ever been created. Whole other level. This was fascinating to watch.

[@NexTsTovas]

+Bigby Wolf I don't see a reason for them to do that.

[@Razordreamz]

Good public speaker. Felt like i was watching a video from TED.

[@a.dykeman1980]

It’s like watching a historical/autobiographical presentation by Space Walter White.

[@Stormlordau]

Agreed. You would think these guys would be socially inapt and awkward, but I would say he's very articulate and effective communicator. Good diplomat.

[@karkkosvolfe]

@@Stormlordau most of the older "pre-alpha" players are very similar. Even since the change, the game is still naturally very efficient at getting rid of "inept" people.

[@Mic_Glow]

eve has better politicians than we got in real life..

[@CHURCHISAWESUM]

Not really, this guy has man child meltdowns when he doesn't get his way or he gets ignored. He's also a pompous dick, if I would've been in this audience I would've started laughing at his smug ass within the first minute.

[@CManagaka]

he might be all of what you said above but still, he has been quite successful and what he says here is not totally bullshit.

[@aenorist2431]

Success based on the fact that better people don´t waste their time as much. Hence why he´s big in eve, not real life.

[@karkkosvolfe]

@@CHURCHISAWESUM And RL politicians don't? Or do you not see Pelosi acting like a 3 year old for the last 4 years. Guess what, DNC didn't get their way and been throwing a hell of a tantrum since.

[@grahamelliott9506]

we actually do have politicians in eve , real life ones, that play eve - no lie

[@ticler]

If this is not hardcore RP I don't know what is.

[@lurkenskanal405]

then you know nothing, diplo is as far away from RP you can come, its 100% meta

[@lurkenskanal405]

then you know nothing, diplo is as far away from RP you can come, its 100% meta

[@eustatianwings]

+Lurkens Kanal This is EVE. The meta *is* RP.

[@Gabdube]

+Lurkens Kanal Eve is a different kind of role-playing game. The role you play isn't your character's. You play a role within the meta, within the natural order of things of a dynamic system.

[@ticler]

Gabdube aka a unemployed loser

[@AcareMiningReclamation]

I was scratching my head of who this guy reminded me of and it finally occurred to me: Raymond Reddington from The Blacklist.

[@br9377]

Yeah I was thinking that too he looks a lot like him

[@The_Eagle_Operator]

I WAS TOO YOUR RIGHT

[@imarocklobster]

I think this is one of the top 3 of all fan fest videos. this mans charisma is clearly what has made him a diplomat. When he says he missed VileRat, it is clear he means it. Everything he learned about EVE diplomacy was learned by him, a real life diplomat. A real life diplomat working in one of-if not the hardest regions in the world to do diplomacy at the time.

[@alby280280]

My god 46 min of trumpet blowing

[@Gunth0r]

highly entertaining!

[@Quesoeighty]

You can skip the first 12 minutes to miss History and ego stroking. But it is a good video after that.

[@Blechhower]

thx

[@johnbanks4761]

+Str8Murder + i dont like people screwing with other people just cause they are behind a computer screen and removed from the situation personally..it's too much like cowards in real life ...try screwing with people in person and see how far it gets you. The way i act in games is how i act in real life, i help people, i talk nice to people, i don't abuse, destroy (unless i'm attacked first), berate or generally screw with others until i'm screwed with..because that's how i am........for someone to brag about that's how he is in a game tells me a little of their personality in the real world. I'm not saying he's BS'ing , i'm sure he does what he does and he obviously enjoys it. Just not my cup of tea..you're obviously a fan of his.

[@NexTsTovas]

+john banks Sion was giving his background. So, that you know him better, could relate to him, wage who he is and why he's so.

[@gy7694]

no he's right actually. you shut the fuck up. moron

[@nobodyfromnowhere3597]

If nation will have politicians like that I would be terrified of such nation.

[@DubstepDungeon]

+Nobody From Nowhere we already have many of those, and even worse *trump*

[@nobodyfromnowhere3597]

+DubstepDungeon the only one that comes to mind is Kissenger

[@michaelsternett8324]

@@DubstepDungeon Only pres in my lifetime to not participate in a war. Or have major terrorist attacks during there time in office. Oh, and gas was $2 a gallon.

[@713erzengel]

Wow. A very intriguing video, indeed. A good analysis of what diplomacy in EVE is about and how it can be the unknown factor in the politics of the game. One quote that can be applied to real life,"People's perception of you is their reality of you."

[@garyhost1830]

40:15 I'm a space politician, it's who I am. Perhaps the most grandiose statement I've ever heard. Its a fine line between genius and insanity

[@garyhost1830]

Hahah oh god I nearly spat my drink all over the table, your so so so right

[@dantecaputo2629]

Gary Host I can respect a man who responds to his own comment.

[@garyhost1830]

@@dantecaputo2629 it was to someone else but good ol you tube deleted their comment, looks silly though

[@kiklul]

Very inspiring, can't wait to apply when I'm eligible.

[@ishnupoo]

Join Fweddit and you'll be in the CFC today.

[@kiklul]

ishnupoo something something people and places

[@spook187]

Join Karmafleet :)

[@vrnclackers]

Is this guy REAL... OMG can he take credit for anything else?

[@IvanaTwinkle]

vrnclackers None of what he said was wrong.

[@dylarmage]

vrnclackers Be sure to message him and tell him where and when he was wrong.

[@grahamelliott9506]

this presentation sparked my interest in actual diplomacy and foreign policy, as an art/skill or function tbh I despise goons in game, though I haven't played in a long time... but this is still one of my favorite things about this game that has stuck with me for years

[@mirootx9616]

OMG the Darth Sidious of the Eve Universe!

[@ExMachinaEngineering]

WoW! This phenomenon is something that really needs to be studied...

[@TrejoDuneSea]

"Utlitarian" should be "Utilitarian."

[@lettuceprime4922]

Yeah that's kind of super unfortunate.

[@112233jjooee]

i just stumbled across these videos and the depth of eve is kind of blowing my mind right now.

[@GalileoAV]

I know it's been a year, but the game has gone free to play for a basic account. You can join us if you like.

[@heizersmidt]

Ego stroke is stonk in this one.

[@theFarticle]

Brilliant. Seems like the best breakouts happened in 2015. At least as far as what's on youtube

[@grothaal]

Nice presentation.

[@jwilham]

be better if the dude wasn't so full of himself... (says he is in goonswarm) ohhhhhhh.... got ya. i love how rule 3 goes against the whole intro. goons for ya.

[@kimpeater1]

this was really fun to watch

[@BigTdeluxe]

sooo...don't promise anything...AND...always keep your word...seems easy

[@misterexclusive8282]

Means dont go out of your way to create policies and make promises. Let the other party create a policy, then negotiate, and hold your word on that compromise. Dont jump the gun by speaking first, essentially.

[@ANNAKKi]

I used to pirate in low sec and capture haulers to xtort them isk from them. The only reason why I made so much is over a long period of time was because I kept my word that I would cease firing on them once they have paid for their freedom. People would fall into our traps again and pay knowing they would live. But often I wonder had I not kept my word would I have made the long term profits than what I was making having kept to my promise.

[@cloudstrife2131]

hey hows your coalition doing lmao

[@thefun36141]

I was just going to say the same thing

[@rcwardawg]

Probably better than yours.

[@JuveniusDrakonius]

Actually very well at the moment

[@GalileoAV]

Right now? Very well. The Ascension changes have helped us a great deal, and we just started deploying Sotiyo's yesterday.

[@AftermathRV]

Still strong, just minus co2 and fcon, we didnt like those guys anyway. i mean look FCOn cant fight fo shizz, theyre bad. and hey we have the strongest economy in the game so we got that going for us, our coalition members help alot iwth it.

[@dschlickone]

LOL I remember the fountain war I still have ships in g-95

[@dominictemple]

Finally realised who this guy reminds me of, James Spader.

[@AcareMiningReclamation]

Yes! Okay, someone else had the exact same thought I did!

[@DemonsmaycryIT]

great ! tnx

[@loonie5468]

I must say, after coming here from porkbutte's trailer, I am twice as certain I will never be able to take donuts seriously, now that I learned they are BLUE ones. The rest I can dig though. Except the lack of icecream...that part was just plain false advertising. :( Seriously though, thanks for the presentation and was a nice stroke of ego to see a lot of personal observations confirmed, especially ego being the last thing that can come into it. :)

[@RusstleDeeJimmie]

This guy reminds me of Tom Hagen.

[@freethis222]

Those pauses added to give weight to the statements unfortunately made them obese. Way too many. And too long. Pauses.

[@GoodVibrators]

13:09 A goon said 'always keep your word' hahahahahahahaha wtf?

[@theonetruephil]

Real life littlefinger

[@AFuriusHost]

The way of the scamers: how do i get into that guy's head to get his money.

[@cupwave2]

Oh Sion 🤤❤️

[@Skabet88]

I to use sign language when i speak in front of nerds

[@CHURCHISAWESUM]

This worked well.

[@CarterBartram]

Something about this guy scares me.

[@Kyrmana]

His style of speech reminds me of a certain cult leader.

[@MrFearvic]

He comes off way to cocky.

[@JuveniusDrakonius]

Vanity....my favorite sin

[@MrJ6H]

👍🏼 underrated comment

[@RoaneAvery]

I could never do what he does. #Respect

[@LittleTed1000]

If you become a diplomat in an online computer game for "power" then you've lost touch with reality.

[@JuveniusDrakonius]

There people behind the character, egos, expectations and needs....in a way its more Diplomacy than in real life since in Eve there is no real consequence to failure like say death, economical downfalls or land lost. True is not RL but in many ways it is the same

[@LittleTed1000]

Juvenius Drakonius The same, yeah. Only without the consequences, the respect or the power.

[@JuveniusDrakonius]

You'd be surprise how right he is in so many points...Eve is more like real life than you would think in surface

[@LittleTed1000]

Juvenius Drakonius And yet isn't. As such there's no power to be found. This isn't complicated. Are you getting it yet?

[@JuveniusDrakonius]

For a computer game that ppl play to be entertained over the internet..its pretty close to the real thing...a true human virtualization, role play on steroids...just bits and soundbites i know but true human nature is behind each interaction. :)

[@warlordgoblick]

Am i the only one who watches this vid just to chill out?

[@gy7694]

meh, the simmering geek arrogance emanating from so many of these speakers is quite tiring.

[@Crispywithextrabutter]

psssssssssssh nothin personnel kid

[@tetratrance]

Illuminati Confirmed !!

[@malango255]

thuck thess. whats that? lol

[@MidnightsfireLP]

I'm reaallyyy sorry it's sure totally interesting what he is telling but he speaks so slow I'm totally bored and can't concentrate what he is telling. :(

[@MidnightsfireLP]

Used now subtitles now it's okay *g* :)

[@NexTsTovas]

+Midnightsfire Tip: You can increase speed of videos by clicking gear icon.

[@MidnightsfireLP]

+Komainu - The Social Media Expert Hey thank you good tip totally missed that. 1.5 Speed is perfect :D

[@AftermathRV]

he is wordwheighting, thats good for you if you listen to hi mfor your long therm memory. you should practise concentration.

[@crazyonefrommom]

Zzzzzz most boring Eve talk i seen

[@jernejicom]

p.s a bully is not a good diplomat ...

[@paske1924]

Nice presentation ...