Eve Online - Daily Goal Changes and why i Think they are Bad!

[@Eberneza]

Interesting video. I liked the daily login rewards too and was sad to see them go (mostly as there are some of the exclusive skins I didn’t get). Then the double manufacturing was brilliant for quickly completing the 12 days on each character. I can see exactly why CCP would see this as bad - you aren’t playing the game at all. I totally agree with their reasoning for removing duplicates but dropping from 8 options to 4 gives too little variety (CCP did hint last week on their live2feed stream that this is going to change so fingers crossed). From CCPs perspective they want the dailies to get more people to login and actually undock and play but for me at least the reality is it has forced me to sit down and 1 - realise I have way too many alts and 2 - for each of them to really think about why I have them and what purpose to they fulfil that my main doesn’t. And would be better just extracting their SP and deleting them. I would like to see more different goals introduced and the earlier comment about changing the rewards above so many SP sounds really interesting

[@FlyNavy1271]

I agree with you. Their change to daily goals is borked.

[@Chrikk_Whales]

@@FlyNavy1271 I hope they see player reaction and turn it back but I assume this will not happen

[@smoore6461]

I agree, the idea behind login goals was to give people a reason to log in every day and do something. Not to annoy people into not feeling like logging in some days at all. I still do them because there are some good rewards like Plex but honestly, it's hard to justify doing them sometimes because it's such a process to get them done when I could be doing something else in Eve or IRL.

[@Chrikk_Whales]

@@smoore6461 yeah I don't like the changes at all, when the reduce the Amount by 50% they should reduce the Required Daily ones from 2 to 1.... I really miss the old Evergreen Login Rewards

[@northstar7631]

I still do the dailies for 12 characters with 4 in fleet at a time. Some days I have to buy just one daily for 2500 evemarks, but I don't think it is too bad. My guess, and it's just a guess, CCP goal was to stop players from farming SP to extract and sell. Either way, it is still doable with 1 Character doing Lvl 4 missions and sharing with a lot of alts at the same time, and either manufacturing 1 unit of a small item or buying a single daily.

[@Chrikk_Whales]

Jep, thats basically what i do also, as you see in the Lazy way to Omega Video. Went from 30 Days a Month to the bare Minimun of 12 Days/30. Let the LP Guy do a Distribution Mission and in the Meantime do the Manufacturing or Buy them on the other 9 Accounts and Repeat, takes less than 20 Minutes (Cause Autopilot time) to complete 10 Accounts 3 Toons Each.

[@SHOTSLAPOUT]

Level 2 mining missions are more than 50 LP & more than the ore requirements. Scanning in starter system will be the next thing they stop.

[@Chrikk_Whales]

I do Level 4 Distribution Missions and share it with 9 Alta they give around 1000LP. And AMarr University Thing has Exclusive HS L4 Missions.

[@simply4est]

Yeah I usually choose one like that which can combine with a mission to do two at once. Security missions will usually have you destroy enough NPCs, etc.

[@kinesthe12]

i think i have enough evermarks to buy 1 every day for a year of dailies goals of 12 for the month.

[@Chrikk_Whales]

@@kinesthe12 nice one! That's close to 1M Evermarks if you don't calculate in the ones you get over this period. I'm kinda sad that they changed Evermarks from a Personalization/ Skin Currency to somewhat kinda useful making people use it was less for intended purposes cause it has a "monetary"/"time" value now

[@kinesthe12]

@@Chrikk_Whales well its 2500 - 1000 = 1500 X 12 X12 = 216k

[@meklowthelemur861]

Players above 50 mill should no longer get the 10k daily and 175k weekly skill points but compensated/rewarded another means, as this should be treated as a "Catch Up" mechanic for new and rising players incentivizing them to keep playing and logging in. Otherwise the state of the game really does not change except making every one feel like the game is a chore.

[@Chrikk_Whales]

Good Morning! i think you overestimate at this point the level of SP you make to make a Character "useful" enough to get turned into a Skillfarm /Daily Goal Farm giving you some Numbers about my Toons: JF/Rorqual Pilot: 40M SP Rorq/Reprocessing Pilot: 45M SP Dread Pilot: 30M SP Exhumer Pilot: 15M SP Exhumer /Stormratting Pilot: 25M SP Utility Alt(Cyno/Dictor/Hictor/Scanner): 35M SP Main Character: 70M SP Like you see in this Short Overview most of my Characters are not reaching the 50M SP, and we all know Eve Players, they would find a way to get it as close to line as Possible but not cross it. beside the "different compensation" would be wort more in terms of Isk/Plex than the SP. I think my first Limitation i would make is, turn it from an Character Specific activity to an Account specific one. Most "younger" Capsuleers dont have 3 Characters setup enough nor wanne invest the Time "Choring". Thats why i said in a different comment that i really miss the "Evergreen" Login Rewards. Cause you just needed to Boot up the Client to get some rewards, and the Boosters were very very Nice and Niche. Addtionally if you want an "Catch up" Mechanic, you could expand the New Capsuleers Login Rewards to like 60 Days or even Longer. We have the Same Issue for the AIR Carreer Thing, some people optimized it enough to "Speedrun" it in less than 1hour and than claim the SP which got added to the Redeem Queue on their Main Pilot. Exploting the Catchup.