Myanmar deserves the crown this yr as she is very talented & powerful on her age 17👑❤
@morodoksomneang57858 күн бұрын
@ThawZin-n6m You're absolutely right ! Have a bright future, Miss Myanmar ❤️ You're so beautiful. From Cambodia.
@rosalinacristobal3499Ай бұрын
The quality of choosing a winner of miss cosmo is so charot
@wonderwoman9964Ай бұрын
Troot yan 😂
@XanderFOX868Ай бұрын
@@rosalinacristobal3499 your right dear. Mukhang chaka pa 😂😂😂
@gatothadiprasetyo1300Ай бұрын
Congratulation Indonesia.. very deserved winner ❤...mahal kita❤
@karuniaanindita4621Ай бұрын
the quality of Miss Philippines fans is so charot
@dinia622118 күн бұрын
because it's not just about beauty but also brains😅
@qn90quangninhkrАй бұрын
I think that Miss Indonesia totally deserved to win the crown, many people regred for Miss Philippines but She missed many extra rounds to make her intop 5 finalist.I also like her and regred for Miss Peru and Usa.love from Vietnam
@greenmeadow4488Ай бұрын
And whos fault is that.. why do our delegate had a physical injury in the premise.. safety and security is in question? Should we go after the organization is that what u are suggesting?
@nhinyi159228 күн бұрын
@@greenmeadow4488she’s injured in her leg, not mute, and dont blame others for your bad luck and disregard everyone else’s hard work
@jaynethyson481715 күн бұрын
@@nhinyi1592 USA was placed in the top 5 but she did not participate in the impactful beauty/green project by choice, not because of injury by the organization. Do you know who won the 'impactful beauty' award and where she placed? I'll tell you. It was Singapore and they placed her nowhere- not even top 21. Make it make sense! Indonesia and Vietnam performed opening numbers (lip sync) for the preliminary competition so explain that one please. They did not win a place to do that. It seems to me that there is no time or reason to anything in this pageant except hand picked. It's their pageant so they can do what they want but people are not as dumb as they think and realize these things. Also, the way that the president of the org and the winner disparaged and laughed at the ones the org injured and traumatized proves they have poor temperament and are only interested in empowerment of themselves.
@nhinyi159212 күн бұрын
@@jaynethyson4817 First of all, let's talk about Philippine, she didn’t even take part in the most important part - project. No project submission, no presentation, so how could we possibly place her in high top? What would she have to debate with if she's in top 2? And it’s not because of some injury by the organization, so can you explain that to me? We evaluate candidates throughout the entire process, even in moments that aren’t on camera, and in private interview. So do you really think you can assess better than the actual panel of judges? A highlight can't evaluate the entire process As for Vietnam, she got to perform in the opening numbers for the preliminary competition. If we followed your thinking, shouldn’t that performance have pushed her straight to the top 2? And why didn't Thailand perform, but she's still make it to the top 2? This is the first year of our beauty pageant, and the core value of the MCO is to serve our nation and to promote our country to the world. We prioritize aspects related to our country, but that doesn’t mean we're unfair or biased, if we were truly biased, we would be doing exactly what you are, in 18 years of ME, holds the record for both the number of times hosting the pageant (15/17) and the number of crowns. If you were truly following MCO, would you not see how the Philippines' energy gradually waned in the later parts? Even before I became interested in MCO, I already noticed Indonesia and Thailand’s joy, humor, enthusiasm, and energy just through the videos on tt
@jaynethyson481711 күн бұрын
@@nhinyi1592 Who are you responding to? 😆 I already told you that USA is the one that had no project but was placed in top 5 and Singapore was the winner of 'impactful beauty' but was not placed at all! You don't even know that the green project was OPTIONAL. MCO actually ended up having no 'impactful beauty' platform as they promised. In fact, the winner has NO international platform, she only has her culture and tourism platform. And who is "we"? You don't work for MCO and you were not there 😂. Vietnam and the winner, Indonesia, performed and that IS favoritism, genius. In fact, MCO showed favoritism throughout the competition and many former fans complained about it. MCO posted only their favorites' videos for introduction/platform when all were required to have them professionally made and submitted before the pageant even began. Then they made all the contestants film a new intro, in MCO's brand (forcing one contestant to wear a HUGE and AGE INappropriate dress). MCO was ridiculously negligent and unintelligent taking contestants to the construction site where many were injured and harmed. A REPUTABLE organization would have delayed the competition until the contestants were out of wheelchairs (there were 2!!) healed and rested. A REPUTABLE organization would not make fun of those they injured and would not choose a queen that disparages her sister queens because they were injured by the org. Yes, MCO's core values are hideous! I hope they are sued for all the damages and illegal acts they did.
@ZawZaw-qy6xuАй бұрын
Myanmar 🇲🇲 🇲🇲 🇲🇲 🇲🇲 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤ Myanmar
@malaylay5205Ай бұрын
Myanmar❤❤❤❤
@UMgMyint-h8n19 күн бұрын
သဲသဲကtop5မဝင်တာလား@@malaylay5205
@kevinlee-i8sАй бұрын
I think because this is the first edition, MCO doesn't want the winner to be someone who didn't win from another pageant, so it has to be really new.
@ArkhalayArkhaАй бұрын
Thae Su Nyine Miss Grand🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@ImeldaNalepa5 күн бұрын
Ms. PHILIPPINES we are proud of you you're our winner. GODbless.
@hlwenmoe2 күн бұрын
I encourage you to try your best and be proud of Myanmar😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
@MaMee-w6yАй бұрын
Myanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
@SaiSai-o2h19 күн бұрын
Myanmar❤❤❤❤❤
@mmm-uq2ukАй бұрын
miss cosmo internasional di saksikan sekitar 3 juta lebih di live streaming youtube.padahal baru pertama kali penyelenggara.love you miss cosmo internasional.💓💓💓
@jessereynezАй бұрын
Yes, many had witnessed their shenanigans…. They will not last. No credibility at all.
@XanderFOX868Ай бұрын
Your Queen is so favorite of the judges even her face is chaka 😂😂😂
@HninHninWai-n4j19 күн бұрын
Thae❤Thae❤Myamar❤❤👑👑👑
@palomasantos1294Ай бұрын
Sabi ni Miss Universe Harnaaz Shadu Gown Beat nila but among the top 5 USA So beautiful gown.
@zamvorgaАй бұрын
110% well prepared interpreter 😂. It looks like a comedy show on television. Then Vietnam asked for her interpreter to the English question, but then she answered in English 😂 but her answer is nonsense. The winner Indonesia defines the Brand of Miss Cosmo. 😂
@jessereynezАй бұрын
The world has witnessed their plot. This new minor pageant won’t last.. 😂
@zamvorgaАй бұрын
@@jessereynez Can they really give the USD 1M prize to the winner? If all Filipinos unfollow and never patronize their posts, I think it will have a dent on this minor pageant.
@GerryCurАй бұрын
So inconsistent Miss Vietnam..😢😢 she was just caught by her own mouth.. she said she can answer All questions but needs translations for those simple English question 😩😁
@Ronchard-g7tАй бұрын
I dont like the gown of Miss Vietnam and yet shes the best in gown, shes not elegant...Miss Peru, Cambodia, Philippines and USA are more deserving..
@eventgАй бұрын
@@zamvorga haha it’s their first attempt give them room to grow better
@Ma.SalvacionNebres-qq2ch7 күн бұрын
Another incident of cooking chow...sad to say that Athisa didn't included she has all the guts to be on top 5..so disgusting that every pageant always have so called favoritism ang discrimination.. it's really unbelievable that Athisa not on top 5..😆😆😆
@KhTe-x1o19 күн бұрын
ThaeThae Miss GrandMyanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@ဦးစိုးမြန်မာ21 күн бұрын
Thae Thae Miss Grand Myanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@OliviaCostales14 күн бұрын
That's cosmo pageant..not mgi..
@macho-t6f20 күн бұрын
myanmarသဲစုငြိမ်း❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@renatocaparas7443Ай бұрын
It is like what happened to Gazini, Mateo, Celeste, etc in Miss Universe. Next time stop commenting oh she's on top, sure winner, kinabog, etc. it likewise what happened to Miss Dee
@Kingkalikong.Ай бұрын
Im from Indonesia, miss Vietnam is so beautiful😍🥰🥰
@eventg29 күн бұрын
@@Kingkalikong. yes I am very impressed too
@SoeSoe-u5y19 күн бұрын
Miss Grand Myanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲👑👑👑👑
@KhinThidaaung-sy8xw19 күн бұрын
Miss Grand Myanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@skypulsepath310Ай бұрын
MCO is not for international competition. Low-class rated pageant.🙄🙄🙄 by the way, it’s not a debate!!! ✅A debate is an organized argument or contest of ideas in which the participants discuss a topic from two opposing sides. Those who agree with this statement or idea are the "Pro" side. Those who will not agree with this statement or idea are the "Con" side.
@titifatimah2736Ай бұрын
Jealous
@eventgАй бұрын
@@titifatimah2736 I’d say his country lost big time
@christineyoung434929 күн бұрын
It’s an opinion!!
@XanderFOX868Ай бұрын
Athisa manalo from the Philippines is higher placement back 2018 she's the Miss International first runner up...the real major pageant compare to the minor cosmo. The cheap pageant ever followed by MGI
@anjan6916Ай бұрын
To be honest, as an Indonesian, I didn't expect Ahtisa to not make it into the top 5.
@carlitovillanueva5094Ай бұрын
I love Indoneia(from Philippines) ❤️❤️❤️🙏
@pidiopidiococofun8086Ай бұрын
pilipin layak tulassetnding sama tata
@eventgАй бұрын
@@anjan6916 I was expecting ahhisa to be at least top 5 too
@muhamadahmad4019Ай бұрын
@@pidiopidiococofun8086itu menurut anda Menurut juri Tata lebih baik Itu kenyataan Itu benar Itu meyakin kan Indonesia sudah jadi pemenangnya 🎉
@jjendiep2835Ай бұрын
Same its surprising Philippines didnt make top5, the atmosphere is great but the male host was disaster, his accent and style is not for hosting a beauty pageant
@KoKhinAungNyunt22 күн бұрын
Myanmar. Thae. Su. Eyeing. World. No1
@koe-cl4nu19 күн бұрын
Myannar 🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲ThaeThae
@walternavarro1106Ай бұрын
My honest opinion. There were more who deserve to be in top 21. Atisha deserved to be in top 5 since there was no choice. If other more deserving were included in top 21, these asians should only be in top 10...from the top 5 indonesia is the real winner...she has that strong and genuine personality....very deserving... ❤❤❤.. I WAS ALREADY THINKING THAT ATISHA WILL NOT MAKE IT TO TOP 5. HER CLOTHES AND PERFORMANCE WERE NOT EXPLOSIVES...
@eventg26 күн бұрын
@@walternavarro1106 many pageants in Vietnam have swimsuits covered with sarong, which will fade off any advantages Athisa has over other candidates
@Aoi541sabАй бұрын
Yes athisa is too beautiful for this pageant she deserves more miss world title suits her
@eventgАй бұрын
@@Aoi541sab if she at least get into the top five then many will be happier haha
@chit442Ай бұрын
Myanmar ♥️🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@tinnwewin-vc2nz19 күн бұрын
Myanmar 🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲👑👑👑👑❤❤❤❤❤❤
@Qonza-g2c29 күн бұрын
I love miss vietnam She is so confidence and so belive to q and a ❤ Love from indonesia
@AdrianaSánchez-g3rАй бұрын
Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, USA❤ are super beautiful and so cute!!! And Smart ❤❤❤❤
@rosalinacristobal3499Ай бұрын
Not agree among the four USA is much better
@XanderFOX868Ай бұрын
Are u sure? 😅😅😅 Only USA is prettier than three ladies 😂 . Miss USA is the the caliber of MU material
@muhamadahmad4019Ай бұрын
@@rosalinacristobal3499itu menurut anda menurut juri Indonesia lebih baik Itu nyata Bangun dari tidur mu Mimpi sudah berakhir 😅😅😂😂
@Ronchard-g7tАй бұрын
Looks like maid except for Miss USA.
@AdrianaSánchez-g3rАй бұрын
Please if You have different opinion just be respectful. Thank You!! God bless all these beautiful ladies all are so beautiful, I just share My favorites 🫰❤️🫂
@reaciones-zv8hy27 күн бұрын
Pinoy fans: if we don't win, is a cooking show 😂 for sure 😂
@pauliejojo8241Ай бұрын
Napaka cooking show naman? 1st edition pero halos lahat Southeast Asian ang nasa Finals? Tapos yung male co host obvious yung reaction na guilty eh wala naman ibig sabihin na Mali si Kylie Versoza sa sinabi niya na Top 2 are from the SEA. Tsaka andami ng pageant hindi pa rin nila pinaghandaan ang interpreter ni Peru na sa tingin ko ang pinaka malakas diyan sa Top 5. Si Peru ang dating nakalaban ni Catriona Gray sa MU Pageant noon time niya kung saan siya nanalo. Pero si el salvador talaga favorite ko manalo aside from Ahtisa kung hindi siya pasok sa top 5.
@lulucat3086Ай бұрын
Same thought, my favourite to win the crown is ms. Dominican Republic ❤
@TuNguyen-w5t7z29 күн бұрын
Đây là cuộc chiến của các người đẹp, không phân theo khu vực, mà mạnh ai người ấy thắng.
@Aoi541sabАй бұрын
Miss mexico is also beautiful Im surprised she also didnt advance
@eventgАй бұрын
@@Aoi541sab there were many others too
@klayklayklay22 күн бұрын
Miss Myanmar ❤️❤️❤️🎉🎉🎉👑👑👑👑👑
@RubenNatuel-cv1pdАй бұрын
Sry to say Philippines she deserve to be a winner
@muhamadahmad4019Ай бұрын
Itu menurut anda Menurut juri Indonesia yang menang Sudah bangun mimpinya
@RiswinWinАй бұрын
SABON SA BANYO
@Ayemon-f7w21 күн бұрын
Miss Grand Myanmar Thae Su Nyein 🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@KoKhinAungNyunt22 күн бұрын
Thae. Su. Nyein. No1
@winlaelae1641Ай бұрын
Myanmar 🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@AmulekRamosАй бұрын
This is so funny for ms cosmo....... The reavtion of the lady host 😅
@SuNge-t1g22 күн бұрын
Miss Grand Myanmar 🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲Thae Thae 🥰
@ThinThinMoe-z7h24 күн бұрын
ThaeSuNyineGrandMyanmar❤ ❤❤❤❤
@HninMaung-of7ft19 күн бұрын
myanmar❤❤❤❤သဲဲစုညိမ်း
@nguyenviet1075Ай бұрын
Ủa sao vn trả lời bằng tiếng Anh sao lại phải nhờ phiên dịch qua tiếng việt vậy? Mình không hiểu?
@thaile8854Ай бұрын
người nước ngoài nghe kim duyên đọc tiếng anh còn ko hiểu hỏi sao xuân hạnh hiểu, không có bà kia dịch lại ko biết giám khảo hỏi gì luôn á
@ViVo-jn4iu19 күн бұрын
Myanmar🇲🇲👑🇲🇲👑👑👑👑👑👑
@nicodemusmoo116320 күн бұрын
Myanmar 🇲🇲 🇲🇲 🇲🇲 🇲🇲 🇲🇲 🇲🇲 ❤
@RajkumarRanjan-o4wАй бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤😲😉🥰😘👸Mu Favorite Queen❤❤❤❤❤
@AyeSanDar-xu1ij22 күн бұрын
သဲစုငြိမ်း❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@nyolbuaku7436Ай бұрын
the new Miss Charm in the making 😂
@NgọcLâmHuỳnh-c4b10 сағат бұрын
Viet nam sáng nhất
@kyawoo4801Ай бұрын
Myanmar...🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤
@BanggaKamit25 күн бұрын
Miss Philippines btter than this top 5
@LeandroLudovico-b9jАй бұрын
if this (MC) is their way to be controversial and gimmick for them be known and popular, well its a very wrong move for them, they're not different fr MGI (nawat)and MU ( halutrans)known for being a user and cheaters
@AyeAye-i2p22 күн бұрын
Myanmar 🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@Benyamin-dr6ugАй бұрын
Balerina jakarta Miss cosmo
@TTHlaing-v4y26 күн бұрын
မြန်မာ🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@maricargutierrez9132Ай бұрын
Hakot awards tpos di nkpsok sa top 5 .grabe ah!! Anyway congrats prin Miss Philippines .
@ThuDamaSaryiАй бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@mikechan-bb9rkАй бұрын
Philippines deserves top 5!! Cooking show!
@eventgАй бұрын
@@mikechan-bb9rk Athisa said it will be her last pageant… I hope not it’s my first time capturing her
@DewiRatna-r9rАй бұрын
as you always cook every day
@dethey375913 күн бұрын
mabuGay philipines😂😂 more crying😂😅
@tinnwewin-vc2nz19 күн бұрын
Myanmar 🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲👑👑👑👑❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@GoonGoon-q2l24 күн бұрын
Myanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲👑👑👑👑👑💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@ThanThan-c5q19 күн бұрын
Thae Thae🇲🇲
@MyaThetHninwai19 күн бұрын
myanmar သဲသဲ❤❤❤❤
@HanZarHtike19 күн бұрын
Thae Thae❤❤❤
@KoKhinAungNyunt22 күн бұрын
Thae. Su. Nyein❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@AyeSanDar-xu1ij22 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@HelenTumulakАй бұрын
Thats ok bigay nmn sa iba,deserved nmn ng ibang asian
@TuNguyen-w5t7z29 күн бұрын
Giao tiếp không được mà muốn làm hoa hậu sao?
@HninMaung-of7ft19 күн бұрын
Thae.Thae.myanmar❤❤❤
@junejune-j4z19 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤သဲသဲ
@jessereynezАй бұрын
This Ms cosmo minor pageant…. Witness their shenanigans…
@WinWindowBTS-bu7oh19 күн бұрын
MissGrand Myanmar ❤
@MoeThaukPachee19 күн бұрын
သဲသဲ🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@teresacartel368728 күн бұрын
😢it's a cooking time..lshat na asian nasa top 5 except Philippines....
@arseniayoung-c6d28 күн бұрын
🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
@greenmeadow4488Ай бұрын
😂 And that 's your top 5 Ms. COSMO organization... suck it up... thank you for degrading our standard of pageantry as well. After all the hard work, money, time and efforts👏👏👏 Ikyus me... i work hard even if i dont understand your question..
@TinOoMaung-yr8ixАй бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤myanmar
@JoelSilva-NettoАй бұрын
Philippines you are the true winner,,,,peoples choice award❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@AdrianaSánchez-g3rАй бұрын
@@JoelSilva-Netto she is so beautiful ❤️
@gatothadiprasetyo1300Ай бұрын
😂
@ImeldaNalepa5 күн бұрын
Ms. PHILIPPINES we are proud of you you're our winner. GODbless.
@MaSu-c4h18 күн бұрын
မသဲသဲ❤❤❤
@MaHlaing-q5x19 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@JulyShwe-h2h19 күн бұрын
Myanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@AungKhinTun-x8r19 күн бұрын
❤❤❤Myanmar 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@MieSoe-u1n19 күн бұрын
မြန်မာ
@dawsansannwe-g4i19 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤Myanmar
@ElleDam23119 күн бұрын
🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲💝💝💝💝💝💝
@sawsan538620 күн бұрын
Myanmar❤❤🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@PhyuPhyuWin-hs8zl22 күн бұрын
Myanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲
@HtikeHtike-ez2evАй бұрын
Myanmar❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@ThuThu-w7b19 күн бұрын
Myanmar🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲🇲❤❤❤❤
@jund888Ай бұрын
The winner looks like Marina Summers!
@NawPaPaAungАй бұрын
Myanmar ❤❤❤❤❤
@palomasantos1294Ай бұрын
chicka trivia. mr.ceo president owner scammer and miss cosmo Indonesia with relationship involved...
@herryswizyohorellАй бұрын
Wkwkwk..poor to you..😂
@titifatimah2736Ай бұрын
Jealous boss
@jaynethyson481715 күн бұрын
And the first press conference Indonesia and the president laughed and degraded the contestants that were injured by the organization. This speaks volumes of how bad it must have been for many. How sketchy.