‪@everglowup‬

[@ithoughtiwascishet1316]

not her hearing about this and being like "ooh the girls are fighting!" bruh people are dying...

[@shooq112ismail7]

Literally the lack of empathy is crazy

[@Kais_Peaches]

" -Kim- Cheryl, there's people that are dying" - My brain 2024

[@siennahartle9069]

Yeah based on posts she made on other platforms I think she might actually be a Zionist so it’s not that she’s ignorant but rather that she’s using a guise of ignorance to support genocide

[@La-PetitMort]

Very weird and depraved behaviour from her.

[@carolinesch.]

My local starbuck literally closed, let me just laugh at people saying boycotts dont work

[@lily_lilos3599]

ours too

[@shooq112ismail7]

Literally

[@Augustlaster]

I think people mean it won't stop the war not affect the company

[@anseatery]

That’s amazing

[@lily_lilos3599]

no it's effecting them @@Augustlaster

[@hellhound1505]

IDK if its just me but I have always felt uncomfortable about the way she expresses her opinions. She speaks as if her opinions are absolute facts and everyone who disagrees with her are the wrong ones. As an Indian, I can assure that boycotts do work no matter how big or small it is. We Indians have a history of boycotting many things and whether they were bog or small causes, we made sure to do it since the cause was right. Those who are actually supporting the people who are literally watching people being bombed and laughing about it are nothing but psychopaths in my eyes

[@Joonpathy]

I agree. Even in her stage presence videos, she acts like she is a professional who knows exactly what a good stage presence is. I used to think she was very young and I found out today that she is an adult. She definitely doesn't act like one.

[@ashantythegreat3231]

​@@Joonpathy Fr. She doesn't know what preference or opinions are, and if you disagree with her it's either "You don't know shit" (Anything along those lines) and "__ horrible or mean name here__ is pissed" (or anything along those lines as well) She always says she is a adult and she has a job as to déclare herself better or mature. But she is the exact person who belittled kids (Gen Z) in childish manners and herself can't accept wrong. A adult is someone who accepts accountability. Not that works, not who is smarter. It is someone who has RESPONSIBILITIES. Cheryl, obviously isn't one.

[@hellhound1505]

@@ashantythegreat3231 exactly. An adult should act like one and be mature enough to understand that not everyone has the same thought process as them and can think differently. That is by no means an excuse to insult their preferences

[@ashantythegreat3231]

@@hellhound1505 Exactly. I respect others opinions and preferences, that doesn't excuse me making fun of them or their own preferences or opinions. Which is usually her using a tone against idols, the same cocky and rude tone that she says it's just her being "real" and "honest".

[@ih8tegiselle]

no frr ive only seen her videos a few times but they way she talks is like shes the smartest person ever and just speaks straight facts like girl be so fr

[@Taejiu]

Actually so thankful for TikTok for bringing my attention to content creators who educated me on the topic, the boycotts and years worth of history. The people will talk even if the media tries to tell you otherwise.

[@tiffanyhill-rice5126]

she's always sounded deeply insensitive to me. and it's giving someone who's like "not my monkey, not my circus." i grew up on the south side of chicago in the 90's. i saw so many people get killed that i will always, always have to take zoloft. there's nothing funny about anyone dying, least of all children. war crimes are being committed against palestinians; you're not wrong for calling it "cheating". a war crime is a military breaking the rules set by the Geneva Convention: The Geneva Conventions are a body of public international law that aims to protect people affected by armed conflicts. They apply in all cases of declared war, or in any other armed conflict between nations. The Geneva Conventions protect people not taking part in hostilities and those who are no longer doing so. They also define the basic rights of wartime prisoners, civilians, and military personnel.

[@orion5445]

She's only viewing it from the eyes of a kpop fan. She thinks this whole thing is a kpop community thing when it isn't. This is a real world matter and something that should be taking serious. I like her kpop videos but she's clearly not qualified to talk about real world matters.

[@ablackgirlscommentary43]

Her takes on racism, body shaming and international conflict are ridiculous.

[@siennahartle9069]

@@orion5445 Actually it’s worse than that. She uses Zionist rhetoric and openly supports Israel on her other platforms

[@iloveskz495]

She just posted on her community tab "keep crying" I don't think she's gonna make a video.

[@Riri-gn1of]

There was a LOT of alarming stuff that came before this: - Her condescending attitude towards the Hyuna situation ("the feminists are mad!! gotcha") - The slutshaming towards Hwasa ("she was vulgar at a university festival where there could be kids!! and she always talks about being confident in her body while dressing scantly like we get it!!) - The Chan situaton ("once someone has a platform every innocent word of theirs taken out of context is _their_ fault and deserves all bullying that comes their way") - The BROAD discussions regarding young people in general just being "snowflakes who don't understand anything", when issues like racism, ableism and fat-shaming were brought up Of course, the downplaying of a GENOCIDE far overshadows any of these issues, which is why she's being called out now, but I think it does help painting a wider picture. Edit: People in the comment have brought up other valid criticisms of things she said in the past if you want to know more

[@mindymins]

she openly picked on bahiyyih for no reason and no one said anything for 2 years and just let her and called bahiyyih fans annoying for speaking out. so i'm not surprised you didnt add it to your list because most kpop fans ignored it but it was still a huge part of why i didn't like the channel.

[@Riri-gn1of]

@@mindymins I mentioned the most recent/high-profile issues that she has talked about recently, if I missed anything I'm sorry

[@thailah5425]

EXACTLY!!! Her ass was making straight right wing comments before this!!

[@HobanProduction]

I think u mischaracterised or took a bad faith lens on the Chan thing. Her point was that Bang Chans fans are not his friends so he needs to be careful when interacting with them especially on vlive where things will be on the internet where clips can be used in unintended ways. She said that respect applies to how someone uses their platform too so they have a responsibility with what gets out there from them. I don't remember her saying that a person deserves to be bullied for any of this just that they have a certain responsibility as someone with a public platform

[@Riri-gn1of]

@@HobanProduction I didn't disagree with her entire video, but the foundation of her point was quite disingenuous. I'm not a fan of Chan but I do follow an idol who has talked about very similar things to him, just as vaguely, and the main difference between the two situations was that a speculation post didn't go viral that time. Do I think that idol would have been the one responsible if a post distorting his words DID gain traction? No, I would blame the fan that made it and the people hyping it up. That is, unless we believe an idol should not be allowed to talk about _any_ situation that isn't strictly positive: even vaguely mentioning a past negative experience could lead overly protective fans to lash out aginst an imaginary enemy. We could get to ridiculous lenghts to define just how much an idol should be be censored and nitpicking his words. That is the "responsability" Everglow-up's reasoning implies, and the bullying is the way it would be enforced, as it was in that case. Even after apologising, the huge backlash has led the company never let the idol go on live again from what I know. The solution shouldn't be "silence them more", but take action against slanderous posters and spread good fandom etiquette

[@RKIVESMONO]

I live in South Africa and the boycotts are working!! Our starbucks even posted a statement saying the exact same thing the US starbucks said in October. They are losing money, it's not useless. Also boycotts take TIME. We were in Apartheid and it took decades of boycotting from other countries to free us from Apartheid. Its not gonna take a day, it can take months, YEARS even but that doesn't mean we should call boycotts useless. Its working and it's very effective right now

[@vxnus8909]

15:14 the fact that they’re playing this fun music as if they’re not about to bomb a place that’s going to KILL PEOPLE? Insane.

[@shooq112ismail7]

Sickening

[@yoonsope]

The thing is, some attempts will work and some attempts will fail - but you have to try to find out. 'Why breathe if you're going to die anyways' mentality has never brought anyone anywhere.

[@jiwonswrld]

naevisual and nctiddy's responses to everglow-up's short were the best out of all of them because they dissected each and every one of her arguments and why they were wrong.

[@ellenevolyn_]

There's also Taejiu and Nabicore's responses... The people are all talking about the sheer stupidity, for a lack of a better word...

[@asimplestrawberry]

that’s what pisses me off like israel is trying to eradicate a whole nation that has been there for thousands of years and she’s giggling

[@HangingGarden606]

The Jewish Israelites came hundreds of years before the death of Jesus Christ, and this is one of the first things you read about in ancient history courses. There is no academic uncertainty about that. Palestina was created by the Roman Empire. Islam came to Israel literally about 1000 years after Judaism began in Israel. "Palestine" is a term created by the British. Islam came to Israel during the conquests. Israel is attempting to get back hostages for going on 5 months now. Mind you, many Palestinians didn't vote for Hamas. Hamas was elected, they barred any further elections for the next two decades, and committed countless terror attacks against Israel NONSTOP leading up to October 7th. Just some historical context. "Palestine" has been around since 1988. Before the "British Mandatory Palestine", when Jews were actually safe to return home following genocides across North Africa, Europe, and the Middle East, it was Ottoman Syria (more conquests from outsiders).

[@julietm1028]

Would also recommend to people to not watch the JYP collab as it is sponsered by Coke which is being boycotted! And obviously, cause I know someone will say it, this has nothing to do with the idols themselves, it is strictly JYP's for being sponsored by Coke.

[@AkiraFlamez]

This! My friend watched it and convinced me to as well but we only watched for the idols. But we both do not like JYP as a person but plz stir clear of this music video if you support Palestine 🇵🇸 if you watch…just watch for the idols only

[@orion5445]

JYP isn't at fault here it's JYPE. JYP don't own the company and has no say in these matters.

[@norviolet108]

As a STAY, I couldn't agree more, I love SKZ, and honestly all the groups involved in the collab but I will not be supporting it, and most of the STAYs on twitter I've seen are saying the same, we love these idols but we will not support this sponsorship.

[@hellooooooooo3956]

​@@orion5445the largest stakeholder of the JYPE company is JYP himself...he is profiting from the Coke ad/sponsor regardless

[@orion5445]

@@hellooooooooo3956 True but again he doesn't run the company so the decision to partner with Coke was made by the board not him.

[@user-vi4yr4gd3g]

I always knew you were a good person. As a Palestinian, although it sounds bittersweet, I’m so happy that one of my favourite KZbinrs is actually aware of what’s happening in the world and the fact that you’re not afraid to speak out about it is so heartwarming to me. Thank you for being on the right side of history and seeing the truth as it is. The fact that the majority of the population doesn’t even know what’s going on is insane to me as someone who grew up on stories of my grandparents and their families being forcibly kicked out of their homes, getting ethnically cleansed and quite literally erased from the map. This genocide has been in the works for decades and it’s about time we end this madness. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Don’t forget us, we’re people too.. 🍉

[@kelseylelei]

no because u took the words out of my mouth. palestine will be free and pls know that you are forever loved

[@janays3550]

Yeah, that 'idgaf what ppl think' 'unfiltered' stuff seems cool, but I'm always cautious with people like that because they always take things too far because they are inconsiderate and lack empathy. It's not cool. You should care what people think and how people feel about your words. Realizing that's not a cool way to be is a sign of maturity.

[@yunawinx]

maturing is realizing u shouldn’t care what other people think, i mean i guess you should to a degree, but most of the time nah.

[@janays3550]

@yunawinx I think you should care what other people think when it comes to your words offending or insulting someone, and caring requires empathy, which is a trait that evolves with age. But definitely, when it comes to more personal matters, building confidence is healthy & caring less what people think about your appearance, choices,etc is good 😊

[@EVVENN]

@@janays3550it depends on context honestly and who you’re with but overall yes we should be mindful

[@_zeroseyy]

As an ex-everglow-up fan, I am disappointed. But now that I think about it, this has opened my eyes to how she often conveys her 'opinions' as if they're absolute facts. She clearly thinks this is just a situation where "hater's gonna hate" when it's much more than that. Yeah, the boycott against the big 4 failed, but instead of mocking it, she could have informed people about it without the unnecessary bias that she seems to show in every situation.

[@baoziday5178]

They way her drones in the comments still have the guts to defend shows that they also have the same views as her. Even fans of hers who didn't even agree with her last sentence are still defending her, like do you not have morals??? And her continuing to post on her alt account like nothing ever happened shows the kind of person she is

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

Them acting like this is a mindless hate train

[@indigo_neo]

I’m ashamed that I used to be one of them. I’ve unsubscribed now :)

[@AwakeningWings]

The blind leading the blind. Those fans don't see the truth about her. Even though we've tried to tell them.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

How dare she try to discourage others from boycotting when it’s the only string of hope left & already most ppl moved on forgot about us

[@tolanisimpson5360]

MEAT GRINDED KIDS?!!

[@enhamyloves]

she probably doesn't care cus she's an israeli supporter. despicable.

[@kelseylelei]

it always amazes me how the people who say that boycotts do nothing are always the LOUDEST when something affects them PERSONALLY

[@alyssag1983]

Y'all are just now catching on? she's always rubbed me the wrong way

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

As a Palestinian it’s insensitive at It actually get on my nerves a lot when y’all do this bringing down this life or death situation to K-pop drama level Tho some of her takes are completely unacceptable dogwater considering her following it shouldn’t be let go lightly like Hyuna take (I realized after this video how dumb her subscribers are..but again they are probably kid knew to K-pop that adapted her logic) But this is a whole different level

[@senu.]

​@@RiRi-ku6xzactually it wasn't just k-pop drama her opinion on how a south Korea man should or shouldn't talk about the past suffering and consequences of his country related to heavy western colonization - mostly from U.S (namjoon interview for a Spanish newspaper) should've been the first hint if people could at least separate k-pop from real world issues regularly. That whole community post from months ago rubbed me the wrong way I never saw her in the same light. How could someone lack so much empathy and common sense to be condescending towards a south Korean native speaking out of a very serious problem is still felt mainly the separation of south and north. what do you know she's genuinely on the side of colonization and oppressors , shocking news.

[@oxoxkittykreeper]

Boycotts are useless only when there isn’t a collective understanding on why you should be boycotting or when there isn’t enough people. The Starbucks boycott has been great! The kpop community has done great boycotts like with loona but with hybe stans I can see it’s gonna be a bit harder….

[@uwuinternallyscreaming7644]

I have an opinion that may be a bit controversial... But I would say that the Loona boycott didn't work just because of the fans who boycotted, but everything was already against the BBC since that time, which only made it easier for the boycott to give the final card and result in the end of the company. If we research, we see that the BBC was already experiencing financial problems even before the boycott was even a thing to be considered. Of course, the orbits also had a hand in this process, which was the boycott to end everything once and for all. But if the BBC had more funding and more support from loyal Asian fanbases (especially Korea), the boycott might not have had as much of an effect as it did. I may be wrong, but I would say that boycotts are a bit unrealistic in the context of Kpop as a whole... at least for bigger companies. They are prestigious, influential, respected and more. A boycott would hardly do anything against them when we stop to think about the legion of fans, investors, politicians and many other forces behind them that can easily put the process to a halt. Of course, there might be another way to actually make it work, but I think it's almost impossible if we stop to think about Kpop as a whole.

[@dotcom3015]

@@uwuinternallyscreaming7644sure, it can seem futile. But you don’t /need/ to give these companies your money. it’s not that much of a sacrifice even if these companies dont completely stop. K-pop fans act like not spending their money and not spending hours streaming is the hardest ask. It’s just coffee, it’s just album merch, saving your money shouldn’t be that much of a struggle if it’s for a good enough cause

[@florae2502]

shes always been extremely insensitive in order to appear edgy or overtly anti woke. before this with the hyuna situation she literally asked everyone y they were upset/disappointed as if she isnt dating someone involved in the burning sun case (if you dont know what that is research its a long story), and turned it into a gotcha moment. now shes coming for kpop stans and ppl for boycotting starbucks its so strange

[@yunawinx]

it was interesting how contradictory her takes can be. i mean i can see that her point is people should not be more concerned abt something just bc the person is a celebrity, but at the same time she got on chan for using his platform inappropriately (which i agree with), but with that mindset hyuna also falls under that category. she has a platform and is now dating someone associated with such disgusting ppl

[@Positioned2win]

It’s disgusting what’s happening there. Free Palestine.

[@ethanchasejackson]

Free peace❤

[@Augustlaster]

Yes free Palestine

[@peachxtaehyung]

The fact she thought that was ok to post that told me all I needed to know about her honestly... It's so not ok

[@alexandragabitto2573]

It’s good to see people are informing each other and calling out bigotry when they see it in the K-POP community!

[@BTSARMY-hn1tc]

You never disappoint me. Thank you so much, let’s all pray for Palestine 🇵🇸 💗💗💗

[@seungminnie-miney-mong]

This gives my small vindictive side validation when her subs reduced me to a simpering kpop fan girl who’s an oppa apologist and can see them doing no wrong, when my main criticism directed to her was that she came off condescending, biased and as public figure herself, insensitive. I always say it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it. Especially if you know you’re going into an already defensive fan base. Being unapologetic does not equal talking down on people to get your gotcha moment. And this is coming from someone who actually enjoyed her stage presence vids and her video on “pick me’s” Looks like this time she said the wrong thing and in the worst way.

[@hellhound1505]

I thought I was the only one who got attacked for calling out her manner of speech. I enjoyed her SP ranking videos cause she actually made sense and wasn't biased but many other videos relating to some of her opinions just pissed me off cause she was essentially insulting everyone who didn't agree with her. Even the fans who support her are equally liable cause they will defend her no matter how much BS she spouts from her mouth and its even more disgusting cause some people are supporting her opinion on a heartbreaking topic like this

[@AkiraFlamez]

38:52 I agree with this video so much! I actually did try to participate in the boycott but soon saw nothing else about it. It's so sad because Palestine 🇵🇸 needs as much help as possible right now. Boycotting major companies does work. And should be continued until there is a permanent cease fire💯🥺

[@ethanchasejackson]

Both countries need help❤

[@user-qd5gr8ql2w]

​@@ethanchasejackson The other country never existed

[@ethanchasejackson]

@@user-qd5gr8ql2w Both do!

[@Augustlaster]

Boycotting won't free Palestine so there's Point of doing that

[@emohoward49]

My first impression of you is that you were very straightforward but tactful and considerate of how you speak towards others which is something I think everglow up severely lacks just a criticism towards her I have no actual Ill will against her

[@carolinesch.]

No idea what happend but the hyuna video rubbed me the wrong way and now this ....

[@rockstarwithoutastar]

Frrr…she’s entitled to her own opinion and gets mad when people have different takes, the lack of common sense and empathy is really throwing me off

[@Augustlaster]

Tbh the Hyuna situation is so dumb like she's a grown woman if she chooses to date a man that was involved in a scandal like that then that's her

[@lennyanyn]

​@augustlaster8451 "in a scandal" you mean... the human trafficking? uh...

[@Augustlaster]

@@lennyanyn no the burning sun scandal

[@lennyanyn]

@augustlaster8451 yeah the burning sun scandal where women were drugged, raped and sold to other abusers.

[@shadowclaw5018]

Personally, I think she should of been called out ever since that weird post she made about Namjoon. Also she very openly brags about being Jewish and her Jewish heritage (not that that's a bad thing) But that's probably why she views this as a "both sides" thing.

[@shadowclaw5018]

Also her Chae video in hindsight is really weird. The way she ripped into Chae over her shirt, and made 2 videos complaining about people defending her and what not. Yet when Hyuna was dating that weirdo she basically shifted blame to the people calling Hyuna out and acted like WE were the problem... She did the same thing with the Giselle situation, and to me it feels like she views her Jewish side more highly than her other identities.

[@chunkycloud_]

I started watching because of the same reasons Sebastine did, but I definitely noticed the same things. For someone that loves to bring that fandom tends to “move the goal post” to criticize fan behavior in her videos, she does that a lot too.

[@shadowclaw5018]

@@chunkycloud_ Yeah I've been noticing that a lot with her recent videos. I've been watching her ever since her Giselle video and I did agree with some points she made. But recently her videos have been very bias and she loves to parade her bias's as "facts"

[@iloveskz495]

What was the post about namjoon ?

[@shadowclaw5018]

@@iloveskz495 It's kinda hard to explain, without the full context. But her community post is still up, you'll have to scroll down to about 11 months to find it. But there's Army's underneath explaining the whole thing and explaining why what she said was extremely insensitive. There's also Army post on Twitter with the whole interview, to fully understand what RM ACTUAL said and how she purposefully misinterpreted it.

[@Iunarski]

no because boycotts will work, it has been proven throughout history. Losing your morals over music is insane

[@synovelle]

her hyuna video put me so off, man, I know she already had some dogwater opinions so I didn't watch much of her stuff, but going from hyuna to THIS is insane and so ignorant.

[@siennahartle9069]

I have to point out for all the people who ask “How can she be so insensitive?” She’s not being insensitive, she knows exactly what she’s doing. She uses Zionist rhetoric on other platforms and supports Isael.

[@vengetti]

What really confuses me about some of these people going against the big four streaming boycott is what's the point in buying all these album collections if you aren't actually gonna use the cd you already paid for? Like all you need is a cheap little cd player and you're good..

[@lilrose2671]

Kpop stans mainly buy for the photocards. All else is an after thought unless its a collectors item. If its not collectible(which most inclusions are, people just dont care), they dont really care for it. Also most people don't use cds anymore, hence the streaming platforms(spotfiy/apple music etc) and cd players in this day and age cost a lot. A cheap one is even harder to come by.

[@vengetti]

@@lilrose2671 that’s my point, if its just collecting dust why not put it to use. cd players can definitely be expensive depending where you go, but i get most of mine from thrift stores (i collect them) and they can range anywhere from 5-25 us dollars there. it’s definitely far from impossible if people really wanted to do so, especially for such an important cause, they could.

[@S30NGJ1N]

@@lilrose2671Only for the photo cards? People are so boring nowadays because I love using my CDS and listening to it on my player 😭

[@felixitations]

no fr like girl i own the albums for the inclusions but alkso for the damn music. im not gonna buy smth i dont like

[@DrZdRf113]

‼️I saw a video of someone who was going to sign a contract with a big company and when he read through it, it stated that he would have to align with all their views and support what they support or would be sued for millions. So these artist may be binded by contract even if they don't agree with the company. We think we have more free will than we actually do.

[@hunternight6372]

Not only that but they would be mistreated as well, as a trainee or idol

[@lilrose2671]

Obviously all the idols are under contract. They can't not say no to it and they get the benefits of it even if they don't want to. It's not any of the idols faults but the company and their shareholders etc.

[@rockstarwithoutastar]

Exactly, I’ve seen so many people bash the idols when it’s really not their fault at all

[@minky2k]

I’ve always had beef with her 😭 I’m glad people are calling her out now

[@blushyrosie886]

And let's not forget that she also called uselessness the ager kpop stans har toward hyuna for dating someone associated with the burning scandal.

[@lesleyblackvelvet7647]

Everglow-Up's content always seemed problematic to me. It just snowballed too hard.

[@BrochiaMarco]

Nothing but respect for this video bro

[@sayurinz]

it honestly irks me how she wants to be different so badly, she blamed chan for his words getting out of context, saying it was his fault and now siding with Israel while little innocent souls die in gaza. its not like it hard to know, it takes a google search and there is literal PROOF that starbucks and Mcdonalds lost billions of dollars yet she acts blind.

[@ethanchasejackson]

Remember it’s the government. This is a genuine question but do you also feel bad for the young kids dying in Israel or are they bad?

[@Sytape]

@@ethanchasejacksonwhat kids are dying?

[@seochangbinsarms]

37:43 as a stay, the amount of stays that wouldn’t support the boycott bc “it’s gonna hurt skz and its punishing them, not the company” or “oh just say ur a secret skz anti” LIKE SHUT UP????

[@AkiraFlamez]

I was saying this too but then I messaged my friend about it. She assured me that the boycott wasn't hurting the artists at all. And she gave me information on why the boycotting was important (I didn't know all the details of the situation in the beginning) once she broke it down I was all for the boycott and even tried to participate in it. I was like “People can go 7 days without SKZ, right?” I had no idea how wrong I was and it's so sad! Like people in Palestine 🇵🇸 are dying and instead of pushing the boycott…people turned it into a stan war😔

[@seochangbinsarms]

@@AkiraFlamez and other thing is they were attacking multis, specifically Atinys (which I also Stan ateez) and were like “then why aren’t u boycotting ur other faves if its not just to mess w skz?” Oh idk maybe the fact that ATEEZ ISNT FROM ONE OF THE BIG 4??????

[@AkiraFlamez]

@@seochangbinsarms I didn't think they were😭 but they support SKZ because Ateez and SKZ are friends (I just learned that from my co-worker who is an OG stan of both) like why are we turning the topic of genocide into a stan war?!😭😭😭 like who you like…we don't care about that! We are trying to save Palestine 🇵🇸 😭

[@Riri-gn1of]

Idk where you're seeing that because every single fanbase account I've seen has been boycotting, and stays just ignoring the collab, while the few who said that dumb shit were dogpiled to hell and back (rightfully so). It did reignite some of my trust in humanity

[@seochangbinsarms]

@@Riri-gn1of I never said it was all stays, but it was an alarming amount. And I’m not talking about this collab rn I mean the big 4 boycott

[@Molly-iw1rc]

I'm glad this stuff is getting posted by other creators, everglow up says a lot of messed up stuff and spreads a lot of misinformation. This is not the time to tell people boycotting doesn't work, this is the time to participate and learn about boycotts.

[@sayurinz]

honestly her confidence in saying stupid bullshit about literal wars is what gets me everytime. SOMEONE TELL HER TO OPEN A DAMN TEXTBOOK

[@jeynaii]

tbh, i looked up to everglow from the garam video. Her eloquence of speaking to people and calling them out on their bs was just so cool. Then the Hyuna one came, I didnt have a prolem with her opinion although I stand with 'She could have found someone better'. tbh, I live under A ROCK. Like news would be reaching me months, weeks later so i didnt know much about the israel-palestine issue and this video gave me a lot of insight on it and it just made me disgusted with people even more. Like how can you be supporting this. I dont want to make a wrong judgement while only hearing one side but I truly find this dissapointing for everglow personally. Anyways support palestine guys, pray for them, donate or help in any way.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

Thank you for ur support We need every bit of it

[@iloveskz495]

That video of Israelis with the missles made me sick to my stomach.

[@anastasiagraham2418]

thank you for using your platform to speak about palestine. every voice matters!

[@Yvuliia]

You support us ??? Love you man 🥹💗💗🇵🇸

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

Ikr😭

[@saravengeance]

im glad that so many people tried to talk against her short, because fr what was that

[@hybecultenthusiast4294]

I am so scared for humanity

[@felixitations]

the funny part is people's wages really arent being reduced because of loss of profits.

[@anseatery]

Thank you so much for speaking on this and clarifying your position that what is happening is a genocide. This is using your platform for good. Thank you

[@Rubylolo13212]

I live in the Middle East and I’ve been taught abt Palestine history since I was in elementary school, this conflict has been here for years and I wish I could tell you the history of how the Zionist nomads stole Palestinian land but I’m not going to cuz I don’t think I’m qualified enough, I remember in my school when I was in elementary school which was a long time ago, we were studying abt the history of the conflict and my teacher suggested that we should wear Palestinian flag and sing for Palestine & mourn for what’s happening to them so some of my classmates trained for the song and wore Palestinian flag (I didn’t participate cuz I was shy AF) while they were singing in unison they literally started crying 😢 because of how much Palestinian people were going through at the time and still is, it’s crazy that there’s sides in this situation when we already know who’s the oppressors and the oppressed.

[@gabbypotter2057]

The fact that she thought that it was ok to post that short tells you everything you need to know about her as a person

[@highheeledfagin]

The international market has never been more important to the k-pop industry: they are having some growth issues themselves. Pulling our support internationally would hurt a lot 👍🏽🖤💜

[@rubybailey2952]

My respect for you just went up

[@4seugki]

finally someone talks abt how this person is insensitive and she really is moving weird since the beginning and i was waiting for her to finally show her real side 😭😭🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@choiodi1489]

May i suggest nctiddy for better content and editing than everglowup

[@mzweezybaby91]

#FREEPALESTINE

[@melissabutler2978]

She's always been so flipent about things that merit thought and weight.

[@innes_num1fan]

Her saying that the boycotts weren't helping at all was infuriating. If the boycotts are not working then how did Starbucks lose $11,000,000,000 in sales in a matter of 3 months?? I don't even know why she's bringing up this topic in the first place. The fact is is that she thinks she's so educated enough to bring up the topic when clearly she don't know shit about it is so funny to me. Stop telling other people to go open up a book when that is what you clearly need to do. PLEASE JUST STICK TO KPOP CONTENT.

[@musicismyIifestyle]

In my human geography class, we watched a documentary from the EARLY 2000s showing how even children are seeing violence and hate towards the other group, so this definitely is real

[@ScarletRain613]

A new HYBE protest boycott was formulated by Army4Palestine, and it went all up in flames yesterday. I was online for a little bit of it, retweeting the post and then I logged off for an hour or so. When I logged back in, A4P's account was gone and there were so many people just dogpiling them. A4P had paid out of pocket for a protest truck to be parked outside of the main HYBE building in Korea, demanding that Scooter (also a zionist, who was evidently dming armys I think?) be removed from the company. The truck had nothing to do with BTS, but the background color was a shade of purple and it was listed as a HYBE fandom effort, including army but also moa, engene, fearnot, etc. Some people were pissed because the infographic A4P had selected for their Twitter post about it included a photo of Hobi, despite him not being present on the truck itself. And others were pissed that evidently A4P has a (alleged) multi-stan admin. And some were pissed and claimed that A4P isn't even Palestinian. I legitimately saw people more upset about Hobi's face on the Twitter photo than the genocide. Getting mad at A4P for 'bringing BTS into this' and 'making them look bad'. I saw one comment that actually said that having Hobi's face on it made BTS look like 'terrorist sympathizers' (paraphrasing since I don't remember the whole, correct wording). Oh my lord I was fucking incensed the whole day. People also complained that the protest truck was "in the wrong area" and that it should be in front of Scooter's building. But I think we all know that won't do anything, because he'll just ignore it or call the cops to have it removed. But now there's a protest truck specifically for the HYBE America location now, created by a Twitter account known as Boot the Scoot. They, ironically, support A4P's idea and said to follow it. My block list has grown exponentially in the last day. I'm sad about that. The account Key to the magic shop is one I need to unfollow now, because they implied that A4P could be lying about being Palestinian (which is so fucking stupid).

[@ladybug_56]

10:23 that’s extremely faules. the boycott has put the company in financial shock a few weeks ago (the harshest of this last up to a week i believe). this is ONLY PROOF that we must keep going !!

[@dfernandez3482]

Cool but people are still dying

[@ladybug_56]

@@dfernandez3482 ….do you want us to start begging the companies to donate to children in need in Palestine instead when they don’t even care abt the health of those that make them money (their Idols) 🤨 this shows them we do have power and they should listen to the fans. it’s not like we’re super hero’s or anything that can just go to Palestine and start saving lives (and neither are the idol). we’re doing the best we can and asking Companies and Idols to do their best too FOR those who are losing their lives.

[@xxxx-rx7co]

everglow up has always been wrong about everything idc. shes BEEN irking me with her superficial ass takes

[@walnutsss]

Not about everything tho, some of her opinions were actually based but I do agree that she is insensitive af and think she is above everyone else

[@xxxx-rx7co]

@@walnutsss it was a hyperbole

[@Augustlaster]

It probably just comes off like that but I do see where you are coming from

[@gracec1124]

Why am i so earlyyyyyyyyyyyy, anyways i love you so so so so much sebastine, I was part of ur first 1000 subscribers and I adore you so so so much

[@yourkpopdictionary]

i feel like everglow-up has a lot of bias and opinion in her videos. shes too problematic, and when i saw this video by her, i knew shi was gonna go down. how could she say such careless things about a LITERAL GENOC!DE? it’s upsetting.

[@randomcomments2454]

I am a Christian and will always be, but my full support goes to Palestine. I think the whole genocide and people who support it are nuts. HOW can it be so difficult throughout history for two “countries” to coexist? It makes my heart break for everyone in Gaza. My religion is separate from my morals.

[@saravengeance]

people really need to understand the affect of boycott

[@urbancrawlerx]

She can get annoying thinking shes the end-all be-all in kpop.

[@ainaismail99]

SEBASTINE! Ur videos are my comfort videos. Knowing that you speak up about this , i respect you more bro!

[@prezrenn]

Wow I wasn't aware of the boycott at all, im not really well informed about whats going on there either but I would like to learn and support palestine if I can. Can someone help lead me, I'll try educating myself too.

[@bassanddrums311]

other than that you can also listen to a podcast "Let's talk Palestine"

[@expensivepink7]

don’t get all ur sources from social media is my top advice it seems literally everyone is

[@mimz_]

And my comment is gone again. Since yt clearly hates me, I'll just say I'm proud and glad to know one of fav people on here is on the right side. Love you seb 💚 (Info kept getting deleted)

[@tatjbluecristal3051]

yes its F´´´up, stay save ang HUG to all who need this man ... =(

[@lonelymoa]

And unfortunately so many kpop fans (especially on tiktok) are not aware of these boycotts, a boycott is currently being held from Feb 18-25 btw!!

[@hellooooooooo3956]

well please go into detail about to spread the word...like what should we do

[@zireemaouch9017]

we are not free until were all free, free Palestine🍉 love you Seb♥

[@thissitescertifiedhousecat8107]

The sad thing is, people can still boycott purely, for the sake of their own sanity and mental health. For me, it's disgusting to see these groups under companies who still make ads for these zio corps. I can still block all their groups and projects from my insta, I'm the only one entitled to my time. If some company stands for something against my morals I'm not gonna give them my time and energy, I don't owe these idols anything, I don't owe these companies anything. There are always other artists, and there are always other groups I can follow who don't stand with murderers and I can choose to do that for myself even if the staged boycott doesn't work. I hope more kpop fans did it for themselves instead of groveling under their kpop overlords like they don't have any other choice, like they HAVE TO watch these fancams, they HAVE TO buy the new version of light stick. Bruh you don't have to. The world is much bigger and there is so much more to discover and you don't have to compromise your morals for it.

[@user-gk5ph4lq8y]

bless youuuuu

[@Wolfgang_0]

Another point Everglow contemplates as if it's a small issue it's not if it were she wouldn't be talking about it we all totally agree with the points all 3 of you made

[@ludofratta2328]

I really can't understand everglowup, sometimes she talks with this comdescending tone, leading to a superiority complex and at the same time she made a whole ass video over how Sooyas (jisoo's solo stans) had orchestrated a whole five years plan as to how to make Jisoo the most liked member. I'm sorry, but this makes no sense. I'm an ot4, I can say that sooyas just got there because of how things were outside. Lilies and Jenesettes were fighting for the number one spot, while fansè were all calling rosè the best vocalist in kpop (she is good, but clearly not the best, she prefers style over technique and that is okay) while sooyas were just not understanding why jisoo wasn't as popular. She was, she is and she will be, because she is blackpink, because she has a great personality, which made her the bias of non blackpink stans, and because she is talented and gorgeous. They found theirselves in the position where she could be the most liked and took it. No master plan, was it right, debatable, did it turn ugly, most certainly. How is everyone so uneducated and yet they master such a plan? Beats me

[@malakelabbadi04]

It always has been and always will be Free Palestine until it’s free 🍉

[@hellhound1505]

Also, it actually disgusts me how some companies, idols or even the fans of these idols just forget about their humanity for the sake of some money or for their idols. How shameless do you have to be to support something soo wrong knowing that many others will follow whatever you do cause they have blind faith/love for you. for example most of JYPnation idols have been sponsored by Coco-cola. Giselle, Jake, Somi and Jisoo are some of the idols who were promoting starbucks and before anyone says that they apologized/deleted their post, that doesn't change what they have done Hybe has basically just made it public that they support Starbucks when they didn't blur out the Starbucks coffee in an interview with LSRFM. Hybe might be one of the most disgusting and controversial company right now

[@AkiraFlamez]

Yall plz remember, the idols are only here to make music! This is about companies funding genocide. This has nothing to do with the artists. You can like your favorite artists just know that if you support genocide…plz do better💯

[@leonardo13x]

she's a very bad person

[@dionnynatanuel5305]

I already don't like her from the Hyuna vid 😂 it is an opinion video, but like seriously.

[@gokairedwillcipher]

Hey Ever, there's people that are dying

[@Cloudyskies333]

I actually like her/videos a lot but what she said was insensitive and she deserves criticism.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

She Zionist but doesn’t wanna show it on her massive platform KZbin But on her personal insta and friend group

[@Venzicell527]

The palestine case never was about both side it was all about one side suddenly going oh you know my people are suffering and i need land so i am thinking of living in palestine the Israeli government there idea was to use there people's bad treatment and occupy palestine from the beginning they came over this land with asking for sympathy face and then biting back , to say that this is not about religion is kinda i would not say wrong maybe , but i would say that it's more like it started from that and now it's to the point where you really can't relate it to religion anymore . But other than my take on that KZbinr is that i don't think she is gonna apologise for this or try clear it , you thinking that she probably doesn't have a info or is just being ignorant i don't think so , i think she is pro isnotreal ( Israeli) and zionist because so far these type of ignorant behaviour i have seen coming by either zionist or either by Israeli supporters , another wanna say is yess our first strike failed and yess it was those reasons mentioned and there are more the thing zionist people are part kpop fandoms the fact that i literally witnessed those zionist driving antis plus fanwars so our efforst don't get encouraged even today on daily basis i am seeing psycho solos and fans of other groups literally centering all to BTS solos are up all day dragging jk into this while also BTS antis are taking part in it while also fans literally victimising or either saying we ain't boycott because it's are favs comback or that it would effect them it's just a daily discord that i am seeing everyday , honestly zionist are trying way too hard to stop us but my only hope is praying that something gets done also i think these other creators who made video about that ignorant KZbinr they got i think one thing wrong that is boycott is unrealistic maybe but one of the reasons hybe is getting boycotted specially by Armys is because genuinely don't Bangtan to be associated with the zionist mindset of these who we out of the company . Plus we wanted these companies to drop there star bucks and coca cola promotions . I could be wrong tho but i am trying my best to actively boycott and participate in the second chance that is going on right now while i am typing here 😊

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

It’s rlly not about Relgion Reading history books you would know that the largest Jewish migration happened in yrs where jews persecution where on it’s peak for example in the Russian programs years or the holocaust Before that Palestine was always open & safe for Jewish religious practices & imagrations so those who truly were cared about relgion already moved & settled here they lived peacefully &o harmoniously Going by statistics & as a person on the ground I live in West Bank sometimes go to the 48 land (Israel)..like these ppl are rlly not religious they are secular thro & thro You. can’t convince these ppl are doing this for religion In my opinion relgion was only used as a tool to brainwash newspaper generations

[@phoenixhoshika5713]

Interacting the problematic content of problematic creators only pushes their content up for more people to see because it's only read as interaction/them being popular with the humans. Unsubscribe and block. Better to spend energy promoting people who deserve more interaction with their content. 🍉🍉 Hey, Seb. ✊🏽🇵🇸

[@strwbrryriki]

10:31 yes when the entirety of stan twitter went on strike two SEPARATE times !!

[@S.A.A.00]

Being insensitive and not empathetic towards MASSIVE numbers of people un/alived for just existing in their land is INSAAAANEEEEEE

[@fatimahanwaar306]

using "unalive" instead of "kill" only sugarcoats the problem

[@OGseoulite]

@@fatimahanwaar306it’s so that KZbin doesn’t strike their comment down. It’s happened to me before.

[@fatimahanwaar306]

@@OGseoulite which is a huge problem someone needs to speak out about! KZbin is clearly infantilizing us!

[@ReimPrimo]

@@fatimahanwaar306100% KZbin is really shitty in that department

[@fatimahanwaar306]

@@ReimPrimo exactly! as if we're being infantilized and treated as if we should handle everything with kid gloves! by the way it's not just KZbin's community guidelines but also people being snowflakes getting offended over everything and calling everyone "insensitive" is also a problem

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

11:31 duh that’s the case with every “conflict” Doesn’t mean there’s isn’t a right side And I think if y’all thought of us as ppl like you would easily know who it is

[@strwbrryriki]

30:23 unfortunately this is very true :/// during the big 4 boycott the main trending hashtag was ‘focus on bts’… some armys (not that other fandoms didn’t, armys had the biggest collective of delusional people) were convinced that the whole boycott was a way for other fandoms to secretly stream their favs and get them to win, thus causing these armys to mass stream and vote and destroy the whole prospect of an effective boycott

[@Positioned2win]

The song is not good either.

[@carolinesch.]

Bro you had scooter go into an armys dms for voicing their displeasure of him working with hybe while having the views he has, believe me they know about the boycott ans countless emails

[@Jjong-90]

Oh that boycott I flew with my family to France because I have more important things to worry about like make sure that after two bombings and the north declaring a war. We decided to leave. Because i don’t want my7 years old die. About the brands I have no idea about what they did. We are in France but my in laws didn’t come so they are still in Korea so a majority of Koreans are worried about new the last one wasn’t old. So I just don’t have the time to care about all the wars and when is going to happen in my country. If that triggers you well that means you’re safe in your countries

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

Did they bomb near you? You rlly don’t need that McDonald Starbucks you have million other alternatives in France Stop undermining collective work cuz it will bite you in the back when you need it But let me tell you NK will likely not attack you anytime soon

[@juliogil9452]

I stopped watching Everglowup because she said that we need to have proof against Woojin before believing that Woojin (from Stray kids) did not do the things he did. But in my opinion we have to believe the SA victim no matter what until it’s proven with evidence that the SA victim was lying.

[@shanamoens822]

I am a SA victim and I honestly believe that take is wrong. When someone gets accused of SA even before any evidence, people already try to ruin them without even knowing if it's true or not. And if then evidence shows up that they are in fact innocent, that SA label will still follow them until the end of their days. The saying "Innocent until proven guilty." doesn't exist for nothing.

[@myaar7358]

@@shanamoens822 exactly, kpop fans need to normalize being neutral until solid evidence is provided... they are so quick to defend or tear down anyone before even having evidence...

[@juliogil9452]

@@shanamoens822 I understand what your saying. And I was saying that the “innocent until proven guilty” notion applies to everything but SA. Because the victim usually has to deal with all the mental and emotional baggage that comes with that. If there is evidence that the person being accused of SA is telling the truth and the SA victim was lying that then they shouldn’t still have that label and should sue people for defamation. The reason I believe this is because whenever someone tells their story of being SA they are told that they’re just seeking money or something like that. Lots of SA victims that come out saying what’s happened to them are shut down and told that they’re lying. Which makes other people who have been SA not want to come out and say something. Then there’s the fact that the label of being a SA victim follows them all their life. Especially in 3rd world countries. Some people can’t get married or find a partner just because they are a victim of SA. I myself am a SA victim.

[@juliogil9452]

@@myaar7358 I don’t want to tear nobody down. And that is not my intention with my comment. All I was saying is that it’s not ideal to NOT believe a victim because they already have lots of people who tell them to stop lying and that they’re cunts and cuss at them then there’s the conservatives saying that they asked for it for going to the club or wearing something a little revealing. No shade to Woojin from stray kids, and I hear that he is innocent but then I never saw any evidence of it. Plus he didn’t sue no one for defamation… but I never once tried to tear someone down in any way unless there is clear evidence of them being a sh*tbag. Not speaking for other K-pop fans though.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

You have totally missed logic on this Just look at woojin & soojin y’all made them the victims Can you return what they lost? You know sometimes it’s impossible to prove something didn’t happen You should always stay on the fence

[@Anna_587]

I’m sorry but she’s not wrong ( most parts )what can being an online activist do ppl will still shop where they want support who they want and spend their money no one can stop them soooo👀

[@ethanchasejackson]

Exactly

[@notevenfunny_]

Morally, does it sit right with your spirit that even a single cent of yours is going to funding the genocide against Palestinians? Even if we were to ignore the fact that people would rather make an *effort to do something* than sit on their butt and do nothing like your lazy ass decided to do, they are also doing this for the purpose of morality. But Angie is right, it’s been 5 months into this, the people who don’t want to do their research just do not give a damn, so we should stop wasting our energy on people like you. It’s action, action, action. To the people with a heart who are still reading this, call your representatives. Share and Repost any pro-palestine content you come across. Donate the little you can, look up Mansour Shouman, he has an organisation that is directly giving resources to the Palestinians affected. Remember that the little you do is better than nothing. And Free Palestine.

[@scarletm9091]

bro as an israeli you're so funny to me you can boycott kpop literally no one cares

[@elivile.]

I haven't heard about this before and I'm just ashamed that someone like @everglowup exists. The disappointment I feel is just a whole load of whys and hows.