Every GE Diesel Locomotive Reviewed in 10 Words

[@cowlunitproductions2004]

Hello, so alot of you guys brought up the reasons on why the ES44C4 and ET44C4 exist, and i'll admit, its quite impressive to say the least. While my opinion on GEVOs is still the same, the C4s are simply "okay".

[@Mr._funny2006]

Isn't 1:33 a steam engine?

[@F4wk3s]

​@@Mr._funny2006 Yes...

[@JCmilwaukee]

Ge e33

[@nathankeske5697]

Do a every rr in 10 words

[@rottenroads1982]

Cowl Unit Productions, I’m sorry, But I like the look of GE locomotives with Their Cab’s smaller than their hoods. Also, The GE C40-8M is a Good looking locomotive.

[@SkylarsTerribleMemes]

ah yes, the three genders: freight, passenger, and new jersey

[@someprofessonalname2008]

/Reading or LIRR LOL

[@jonathanthebigredengine]

4:11 now the pyromaniac variant for just $19.99

[@Pensyfan19]

A great sequel to a great video! Can't wait for what this channel has in store in the future. Never knew the transfer engines existed until now. The XP24 looks goofy but a bit like an ALCO. G&R is a nice touch for background music too. Just so happens that Paradise City is also my favorite G&R tune.

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

Loved the video. Thanks for featuring SP 3100, it’s one of the favorite locomotives to operate at the museum. Rides super smoothly and is wonderful to run. Sometimes just doesn’t like switching though thanks to the couplers being less than cooperative.

[@JohnLesterArnaiz]

5:10 These are my fav GEVO's

[@GNF54]

The GTEL 3 fucking killed me jesus christ

[@DaGamingIdiot]

Same

[@michaelkkrasting]

Do more of these, these are hilarious!

[@jonathanthebigredengine]

2:37 *SCREAMS OF HORROR*

[@kryptotransit]

The ES44AC was so good... that everyone got them and now they are the only thing you see...

[@R162A-1-train]

[Sigh] say it with me now. Mandated. *PASSENGER VARIANT.*

[@mechamax7919]

wait, with the U50C, wasn't it ALUMINUM wiring that was the problem and not copper wiring?

[@Ashtonthecsx1871fan]

4:57 my favorite GE locomotive in history.

[@nowhere2471]

5:17 To fix hunting oscillation.

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

Mandated passenger variants: 2:20 2:43 3:49

[@EduardoSalazar-jn1pn]

You forget some locomotives: 1.- The GE U36CG (a U36C with steam generator for passenger trains, like the SDP40). 2.- The GE C30-S7R 3.- The GE C30-S7N 4.- The GE C30-S7MP 5.- The GE B23-S7R 6.- The SF30C. 7.- The C30-7A. Greetings from Ciudad Juarez, México.

[@ZetaRanger79]

There is genius afoot here. Genius. I would buy you a drink... one of those flaming drinks, and shout "UP TURBINE" at the top of my lungs. The bouncer would throw me out into the snowbank, shouting never to show my face in there again, and I'd shout back "YOU DON'T EVEN GET IT, DO YOU?"

[@ditchpatcher]

I love the P32-8BWH and the paint scheme and that's why amtk 160 is my favorite

[@SleepTrain456]

Indeed! The Pepsi-Cans are a classic!

[@JohnLesterArnaiz]

5:25 These too (GEVO ET44C4)

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

4:14 PN 8211 in a nutshell before it died XD

[@quillmaurer6563]

5:28 Technically you weren't required to include that one, as you claimed to review every diesel, not electrics. Though you did include the steam-turbine electric and gas-turbine-electrics. So basically everything not powered by overhead wires or only built for export.

[@Transit-Gaming]

Also, explain the ET44AC one guys...

[@SleepTrain456]

This is quite a funny video! Thanks for making them!

[@marcus_rrp_productions2648]

Battery powered trains Nobody: Railfans: 🤬 Great way to end the video my guy 🤣

[@FellowManofAggieland]

Care to explain the problem with the ES44AC?

[@jonathanthebigredengine]

1:44 IT'S WIZARD TIME

[@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014]

You mean, don’t use aluminum wires

[@Blaze06]

I was wondering if we’d get a GE one! Fantastic 👌🏻👌🏻

[@DaGamingIdiot]

Now we need an mpi (motive power incorporated) one

[@SleepTrain456]

Indeed! Considering how many locomotives they've manufactured (from the MPxpress commuter-rail locomotives to the low-emissions switchers), I'd say they deserve a video!

[@krishnakripa3643]

C36-7(Meanwhile in Estonia)

[@A_person473]

THIS DAM COMPANY MADE MY DAM FRIDGE

[@xxantyaboixx104]

That mandated NJ Unit hit me hard… CONSIDERING IM FROM NJ

[@LSRP20th-century-limited]

The lake shore railway museum has a 20/23 ton boxcab locomotive but it's not operational

[@ahmanieee]

Hey the U14/15C is used for PNR😊

[@Hbob624]

1:31 you can barely call that Canadian the white pass is 97% in Alaska and I’d know, I live in Alaska!

[@deviousdieselqc]

0:42 why is it so funny 🤣

[@jacobschahczinski1441]

Correction it was aluminum wiring in the U50C, they were prone to overheating

[@angelmalarkey7946]

I have a request. Can you do a Mexican railway pls.

[@nickballinger-d9w]

5:09 where did this scream come from

[@StreamlineProductions5545]

1:45 so true

[@bettyacheampong6085]

4:11 this dash 8 are evil and pyromaniac variant for 1994

[@Brasil.Locomotivas_ZSU]

I loved the video and your channel very good

[@scotrailfan170]

It's wizard time Alco

[@shintanta1587]

Tier 4 epa emission standard 5:21

[@SouRwy4501Productions]

Those U-boats have ALCo Century series locomotive radiators… Coincidence? I think NOT!

[@GeorgethedemonFeF-3]

0:58 SRM No.3?? 🤔🤔

[@SirLANsalot]

So the battery unit, while ya sort of a gimmick, ALMOST makes sense on long range hauls. No its not to be used solo, but slotted in-between units. Instead of burning off the extra power as heat generated from the wheels during Dynamic Braking, that power is instead routed to the battery unit. When you need the power back, process is reversed, while also adding in its own motors acting like a normal unit. It did save fuel on trains that used it, but by how much vs the cost is the thing. The thing to really think about is if/when the batteries die and the unit is...well...dead/discharged, as now its just a realllly big boat anchor, with motors. While it could use the power from its parent units, that would only give you more tractive effort at the loss of horse power, in essence it would act like how Slugs do in Yards. No idea if any C1 RR has any plans on getting any, BNSF, Norfolk Southern and CSX I saw did test them but nothing more has come of that. Battery Technology hasn't quite made it to todays power and tech needs, that is, YET...

[@thatonecaledonian812]

General Electric made my stove

[@shintanta1587]

C=means 3 axle 5:19

[@genesisrailfan1507]

Broski forgot the GE 25-tonner

[@NJCLRailfan]

Will you do Fairbanks Morse?

[@shintanta1587]

U boat universal series 1:49

[@GE25tonner]

1:02 locomotive for laser tag

[@shintanta1587]

Ge elovution series GEVO 5:03

[@Sleeper____1472]

There was actually a few BQ unit designs, but guess what, *it's a Seaboard Design*. Also, why not have an entire train pulled by a single 6000HP unit?

[@shintanta1587]

Union pacfic turbine engine 1:32

[@TrajectoryT]

Now, time to wait for Alco...

[@ashleydorsey2538]

You forgot the high hood variants

[@shintanta1587]

Dash 8 series 3:41

[@nikolaigarfield2866]

Hmm🤔 Is there a chance to see every US electric loco in 10 words?🤔

[@NewEnglandFoamer]

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) a GE 23 tonner urns at the maine narrow gauge. And ooooooooohohohohohohho I hate it. It's overused.

[@shintanta1587]

C= meamg 3 axle 5:19

[@Goofyahhampsterproductions5628]

Copper wiring is actually not what made the U50C catch fire. It was nickel wire and copper is modern for any time affter the mid 70's

[@SkyFire2112]

As a fan of British steam engines my only question is: why do they all look the same after the 60s?

[@shintanta1587]

Up gas turbine 1:38

[@shintanta1587]

Es evolution series 44 4.400hp ac ac traction 5:10

[@shintanta1587]

Turbine engine 1:32

[@shintanta1587]

Freight locomotive 0:43

[@jonathanthebigredengine]

3:38 *Meanwhile in Estonia*

[@JohnLesterArnaiz]

5:14 😂😂

[@unutentequalsiasi5669]

2:30 the best

[@cashstrains652]

We need the nf210 in the next one

[@BNSF8500yt]

I think he forgot ET44DC

[@shintanta1587]

8 axle 2:51

[@0fficialdregs]

emd > all

[@shintanta1587]

Amtrak ge genesis 4:17

[@trainguy2155]

Can you do alco next?

[@844SteamFan]

5:54

[@QuartiyoPasdevHerjiKreuz]

I was thinking the same thing

[@okipullupon747sp]

After this it shall be baldwin.

[@trainguy2155]

@@okipullupon747sp what if the next video is every small diesel locomotive builders like the company that built the ingalls 4-s which was a one of a kind locomotive built by a small company

[@Canadianmann]

*no*

[@shintanta1587]

Tier 4 epa emission standard 5:21

[@shintanta1587]

Dash 7 series 3:32

[@shintanta1587]

Amtrak ge genesis 4:22

[@LateRegister]

Hi okay so ATSF and BNSF nerd here: Okay so the ES44C4/ET44C4s were made because BNSF needed fast power for their high priority transcon trains. Its similar to ATSF asking for the B40-8W and GP60M, they wanted a locomotive that can quickly start up and keep the speed and power, while leaving the 6 axle power for other jobs that require all 6 axles. A1A was basically like BNSF asking GE for a 4 axle variant of a ES/ET44. GE, knowing BNSF would be the only customer of the "4 axle" variants, decided to just remove the traction motor from the 2nd set of wheels on the Hi-Ad, hence the A-1-A name. It would've been much cheaper for GE and BNSF instead of trying to make a new frame or trying to fit a GEVO onto a B40/B"44" frame. I hope this clarifies the reasoning for the ES44C4 and ET44C4.

[@SleepTrain456]

I didn't know that! So, essentially, the ES44C4 and ET44C4 are express-freight versions of the ES44AC and ET44AC. In that way, the A1A-A1A arrangement makes perfect sense! Thanks for the information!

[@anf_8310_ab]

2:56 They were using aluminum wiring, not copper. Copper is a way better electrical conductor

[@tatecarlson]

Got to love the Gevo. Here's a fun fact, I got to tour the cab of NS 8100 when it was in Ft Wayne displayed alongside Nkp 765. You also had me laughing super hard. (Edit): I'm surprised that the Gevo, Dash-9, and AC4400CW don't have a... MANDATED PASSENGER VARIANT!

[@alexander1485]

You forgot the cw60ac

[@Mnrr6131]

4:25 mandated new york variant

[@Transit-Gaming]

1:42 I have a freaking N-Scale TOY of this...

[@BERT.MCCR6]

we must need an ALCO version

[@BSNCJLproductions]

5:10 indeed I love these. They’re my favorite locomotives because of their nice and good sounding K5HLs.

[@MackeyBigBoy4014]

I'll be looking forward to the Alco, Baldwin, and Fairbanks-Morse video.

[@____admin]

3:40 that is cool

[@randallellison6421]

So the reason for the A-1-A or "C4s" was that GE advertised these locomotives to match or exceed the performance of a C44-9W and ES44DC while using 2 less traction motors and more maintenance friendly AC motors. The cylinders on the truck side frames actually lifts the center axle enough to put all the locomotive's weight on the 4 drive axles and also featured a variable traction control system and this caught the eye of BNSF as they could, in their minds, have an AC traction locomotive for essentially the same price or even a little cheaper than the 6 motor DC counterpart. Unfortunately, this setup was alot better on paper that in real world conditions as these locomotives are prone to wheel slip especially on wet rail! It also didn't help when BNSF started hauling trains that these units really weren't designed for pulling. Most crews have told me that they performed best on high speed intermodal trains that are typically not as heavy as mixed manifest or even heavy unit trains!

[@Jeragon186]

Do you know how ge can fix the wheel slipping problem? I’m guessing that weight restrictions are a main reason why they can’t just add more weight to increase grip. Maybe better traction control software?

[@randallellison6421]

@@Jeragon186 CSX has a version of the standard ES44AC and ET44AC called ES44AH and ET44AH. These versions have extra weight and software enhancements to improve tractive effort. In the case of the C4s, they already feature similar software for monitoring tractive effort per axle and while adding more weight would slightly improve adhesion, it still wouldn't be enough to overcome being down 2 traction motors! Both the ES44C4 and ET44C4 were originally designed for high speed intermodal service, not for hauling heavy tonnage unit and mixed freight trains. The only real true fix, is to turn the C4s into true 6 motor locomotives. This is probably one reason there's still a good number of Dash 9s and standard 6 motor gevos still hanging around and would also explain why the EMD P4 version never took off either and could also be the reason both the SD75M and SD70MAC have seen a bit of a resurgence as well!

[@Jeragon186]

@@randallellison6421 So more wheels = more adhesion is my understanding. What can be down with the ES44C4 keeping with the A1A concept?

[@randallellison6421]

@@Jeragon186 I mean, the only real fix, if we're talking keeping the C4s in their current configuration, and again, this is what I've heard from crews that I've talked to, is adding extra locomotives to these heavy trains. Ironically, most BNSF loaded coal trains here on the Thayer Subdivision operate with a total of 5 locomotives in either a 2×3 or 2×2×1 configuration with ES44AC, AC4400CW, SD70ACe and SD70MACs in charge and can stretch out between 7000-8000 feet in length. The MEMTUL (Memphis, Tennessee to Tulsa, Oklahoma) and MEMKCK (Memphis, Tennessee to Kansas City, Kansas) train often only operate with a total of 3 operable locomotives (any extra locomotives that appear on these trains are usually offline or "boxcared" units) in a 2×1 configuration. Crews have often told me that if they can get 1 to 2 extra locomotives operating on these trains they would be in far better shape or an even better solution is to simply shorten the trains to around 7000-7500 feet in length, basically knocking around 2000 to 2500 feet off of what BNSF tries to currently run with these particular trains which can get as long as 11,000 feet in length.

[@Jeragon186]

@@randallellison6421 Would this be the same for general manifest trains or even other types of bulk trains IE: grain?

[@AaronAnderson-bz2sq]

Having lived along a CN line in Minnesota for nearly 17 years, it just isn't the same without the BC Rail C40-8Ms around. I can always just imagine them snaking trains through the mighty mountains over in British Columbia.

[@TSJoe]

POV your the person who made the GE Battery 3000 and GE BQ23-7: hm. Lets make a design that’ll cost us SOOOO MUCH money and piss off the railroad community!

[@ohiovalleyrailfan]

Manadated *New Jersey* Variant 12/10 best fucking description of the 34

[@Haya_archive1]

2:51 lamo

[@sotomanuel3]

Holy sh- is so big XD

[@ianfernandez2735]

2:27.yup and i like it and i have a model of it.

[@ianfernandez2735]

Wait i f-ed up it was 2:21 ,the u28cg

[@cesarfelipe7138]

I know absolutely nothing about trains, and still laughed my way through this video. Hope more people discover your channel, this sh*t good.

[@TWb-bu9tl]

At CAD Rail in Montreal, the Battery 3000 is sitting on display... stripped. 🤦‍♂😂

[@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos]

AC4400CW supremacy

[@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014]

Me: Why do you hate battery locomotives? Me after finding out their range sucks: Oh, makes sense now. Do you like Hydrogen locomotives any better?

[@MackeyBigBoy4014]

Because he, along with others believe that the battery is going be a flop.

[@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014]

Yeah, I now agree too. Infact I’m more supportive of replacing diesels with hydrogen locomotives and or Nationalizing the America class 1s(except KCS due to its upcoming Canadian Pacific merger) in order to get them to stop cutting corners over profits, and get them to electrify their network so EMD and GE can make electric locomotives for them to use instead of diesels.

[@steam1303]

0:46 Pet the 20 toner