Every Mythical Inaccuracy in Disney's Hercules (300,000 subscriber special)

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The Mythology Guy

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2 жыл бұрын

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@TheMythologyGuy1
@TheMythologyGuy1 2 жыл бұрын
Trying something new again. Let me know what you guys think. Sorry it was delayed due to copyright disputes. Trying to get the Sea of Monsters review out next. Thanks so much for all the love and support you guys send me every day!
@kyliviie2903
@kyliviie2903 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the vid, but maybe put where you got those arts from? The artist might appreciate it :D
@legoking6165
@legoking6165 2 жыл бұрын
Was this video inspired by Cinemasins "Everything wrong with" series?
@thebestgaminginotter4573
@thebestgaminginotter4573 2 жыл бұрын
I love it thanks you for delivering this content. i could imagine a video where you gave some plots, idea, wish scenario of what you want in a live action adaption of Disney Heracles has a fan of the myths
@legoking6165
@legoking6165 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebestgaminginotter4573 There are only two ways to get me on board with a live-action remake of this movie.
@DarkAngel-jo8ix
@DarkAngel-jo8ix 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! You should do Mulan! Mulan is my favorite Disney movie but it’s also not super accurate.
@scattercell8317
@scattercell8317 Жыл бұрын
Hades in Hercules: “I wanna kill everyone” hades in real mythology: *sits silently while being verbally abused by siblings*
@kendiaz89
@kendiaz89 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my favorite depiction of Hades which is from Percy Jackson, there he's just a somber dour man who's trying to get his increasingly overcrowded realm working and when asked why he wouldn't want to kill more people, he answered that killing more people means more dead souls he has to look over and less space in the Underworld.
@jtmmcg8134
@jtmmcg8134 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that meme where the girl says that the guy could never understand her pain while he apologizes while having a hundred weapons in his back.
@CobaltFyrestone
@CobaltFyrestone Жыл бұрын
I love Hades from the game Hades. He's just a grumpy old dad that's simply trying to do his job.
@WhitneyDahlin
@WhitneyDahlin Жыл бұрын
What I really like is how there is a big tradition of people changing the myths all the time. That's why there are so many different stories and so many different endings. So technically Disney's Hercules although it isn't accurate to the old myths that were told it is still accurate and in the ancient tradition of changing the myth to suit your needs or make the story more interesting.
@yeyosilver7067
@yeyosilver7067 Жыл бұрын
Not really, Hades was quite feared by his brothers
@kyliviie2903
@kyliviie2903 2 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that Zeus himself wrote that movie script
@psychomanatee3459
@psychomanatee3459 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, that fits too well
@sheacoburn8328
@sheacoburn8328 2 жыл бұрын
No he would never need help by a MORTAL. He would write himself to kill all the titans simultaneously blindfolded with his hands behind his back while trapped in tartarus while.
@johanharmse1789
@johanharmse1789 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but I feel like there'd be a lot more sex.
@mohithhoney9630
@mohithhoney9630 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanharmse1789 there was but Disney deleted all of that when they started production
@astalouroboros2955
@astalouroboros2955 2 жыл бұрын
Impossible. There's not enough sex in it
@YouveBeenMegged
@YouveBeenMegged 2 ай бұрын
“I know this is gonna shock people, but there were actually no elevators in Greek mythology.” Percy Jackson: *sweats nervously*
@WATERMELONCATARMYFORLIFE
@WATERMELONCATARMYFORLIFE 2 ай бұрын
600th floor moment
@pen6769
@pen6769 2 ай бұрын
It is supposed to be set in 21st century Manhatton though.
@YouveBeenMegged
@YouveBeenMegged 2 ай бұрын
@@pen6769 Yeah, but I thought of this joke and giggled a little, so I thought people here might appreciate it too 😂
@FredBearChalkDrawing
@FredBearChalkDrawing Ай бұрын
Lol
@VeronicaSawyer.
@VeronicaSawyer. Ай бұрын
😂
@captainbirch2.079
@captainbirch2.079 5 ай бұрын
This movie has the greatest hits of mythological inaccuracies 1. Using Hercules instead of Heracles 2. Hades is evil 3. Zeus is a good person All we're missing is the gods not bleeding Ichor.
@tonyparra8459
@tonyparra8459 2 ай бұрын
Also Hera not being evil.
@pifflesomepuffnadder855
@pifflesomepuffnadder855 2 ай бұрын
What's Ichor?
@captainbirch2.079
@captainbirch2.079 2 ай бұрын
@@pifflesomepuffnadder855 basically golden magic blood
@jamesanthony8438
@jamesanthony8438 2 ай бұрын
Also, Hera and Zeus being a loving couple =)
@donnakerins5368
@donnakerins5368 2 ай бұрын
​@@jamesanthony8438Hera probably hates him
@porpedroiiebertrand
@porpedroiiebertrand Жыл бұрын
Hades in Hollywood: *I’M EVIL, I WANT EVERYONE TO DIE!!!* Hades in actual mythology: please just leave me alone with the only people I love in the world…
@psyckwhoever4197
@psyckwhoever4197 Жыл бұрын
Introverts are SO evil that disney had to make a movie about it 😅
@ytayeee
@ytayeee Жыл бұрын
@wargames tell me about where you had a sense of humor
@xboxforever3946
@xboxforever3946 Жыл бұрын
And a!so if you want to revive somebody then ok just ask
@leociresi4292
@leociresi4292 Жыл бұрын
Also Hades:” I know! You know, I know!”
@ytayeee
@ytayeee Жыл бұрын
@wargames your sense of humor still sucks
@jf_kein_k8590
@jf_kein_k8590 2 жыл бұрын
Always weird that Phil didn't believe that Zeus was Hercules father at first, considering Zeus is the father of roughly 10% of greece population.
@ilikepegasi6449
@ilikepegasi6449 2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was laughing that Hercules thought being Zeus's son made him exceptional
@Nyrufa
@Nyrufa 2 жыл бұрын
Genghis Khan: "Rookie numbers!"
@heinoussage
@heinoussage 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nyrufa WHAT!!! EXPLAIN. NOW.
@CosplayCore
@CosplayCore 2 жыл бұрын
Only 10%?!
@Nyrufa
@Nyrufa 2 жыл бұрын
@@heinoussage The most recent consensus for Greece's population estimates them to be around 10.67 million in size. The estimated number of living descendants who can trace their ancestry back to Genghis Khan is 16 million.
@leowastakenwastaken
@leowastakenwastaken 4 ай бұрын
“And then along came Zeus!” That singular sentence could be used in the start of almost every tale about a god/hero in Greek Mythology.
@speedracer2008
@speedracer2008 3 ай бұрын
In more ways than one
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 3 ай бұрын
So the golden films version is actually more accurate?
@eleanaofficial
@eleanaofficial 2 ай бұрын
real😭
@sonofcronos7831
@sonofcronos7831 2 ай бұрын
Or Poseidon
@phillipstephens4522
@phillipstephens4522 2 ай бұрын
Along came Jones, long tall Jones, long lean, lanky Jones...
@Super-qr7wm
@Super-qr7wm 7 ай бұрын
The genuine fear and panic in his voice after "More beautiful than Aphrodite" is funny.
@huzaimahsulaiman7240
@huzaimahsulaiman7240 7 ай бұрын
Well Aphrodite can be quite vain, short-tempered and jealous of somebody including Eos and Psyche. Aphrodite also cheated her husband Haphaestus with various affairs which is Dionysus, Adonis, Brutus, Poseidon, Ares, Hermes, Zeus and Anchises. She's also said to be the one who caused The Trojan War. Aphrodite also make the women on the island of Lemnos smell so bad that the husband choose the slave girls which causes the women kill the men.
@dr.bright6272
@dr.bright6272 6 ай бұрын
​@@huzaimahsulaiman7240she would instantly kill Heracules
@huzaimahsulaiman7240
@huzaimahsulaiman7240 6 ай бұрын
@@dr.bright6272 Heracles
@dr.bright6272
@dr.bright6272 6 ай бұрын
@@huzaimahsulaiman7240 thanks
@Jrsonicyt-is-weird
@Jrsonicyt-is-weird Ай бұрын
@@huzaimahsulaiman7240 pray to her that she wont come after your ass after she reads that
@lillith8444
@lillith8444 Жыл бұрын
I like the way Hades is always described as a bad, mean villain. But actually he’s the only one who does what he’s supposed to do and doesn’t get every living being he comes across pregnant
@sleepyminkz
@sleepyminkz Жыл бұрын
why did zeus do that anyway?
@Varro15
@Varro15 Жыл бұрын
@@sleepyminkz Because he could. Ancient Greece be like that sometimes, unfortunately.
@ItsMe-dn4fi
@ItsMe-dn4fi Жыл бұрын
i was gonna say that zeus f everything with a 🐱 but he also had a male s slave... so yeaaa not such a nice guy like hercules (movie) makes him seem 👀
@creepynugget6641
@creepynugget6641 Жыл бұрын
​@@ItsMe-dn4fi He's screwed animals, and people AS an animal. No, their is no limit to what he would screw.
@dx3217
@dx3217 Жыл бұрын
​@@sleepyminkz because he could... And also because ancient Greece had a... Lack of women's rights and wife respect so that translated into mythology.
@swordbrethrenmordred1230
@swordbrethrenmordred1230 Жыл бұрын
*Zeus:* "Who are you? "I am your son." *Zeus:* "Do you have the slightest idea of how little that narrows it down?"
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
Zeus : ''Who isn't?''
@nordlichedonner
@nordlichedonner Жыл бұрын
I mean tbh even with a name of his mother Zeus would still not know exactly which victim he Zeus juiced in particular
@jorgec98
@jorgec98 Жыл бұрын
@@nordlichedonner zeus juiced is now my new favorite frase
@spill-the-tea-sis
@spill-the-tea-sis Жыл бұрын
“Which one?”
@andrewgan557
@andrewgan557 Жыл бұрын
Hera: who’s there? “Saw heracles”: come here you bastard “while bringing out an knife”.
@todaystheday6823
@todaystheday6823 6 ай бұрын
Terpsichore: "Heroes like Hercules." Thalia: "Honey you mean, HUNKULES." TMG: "Ladies, you both mean Heracles."
@rowanfernandez568
@rowanfernandez568 3 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't mention that ancient Greece didn't have gladiators when the muses sing the line, "who puts the glad in gladiator?".
@funni_moksi69
@funni_moksi69 10 күн бұрын
Ancient Rome A n c i e n t R o m e
@ofekk213
@ofekk213 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention the thing disney violated the most: they tried to make zeus look like a loving and caring father.
@mrEtuthian
@mrEtuthian 2 жыл бұрын
and that the mother of Herakles was a godess, she was not :D
@naughtymelon6712
@naughtymelon6712 2 жыл бұрын
I love how THATS somehow the most ridiculous thing in the entire movie. Greek mythology is bonkers.
@ofekk213
@ofekk213 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrEtuthian he did mention that tho
@uncreative7774
@uncreative7774 2 жыл бұрын
how much child support is this man paying?
@ofekk213
@ofekk213 2 жыл бұрын
@@uncreative7774 considering he IS zeus, he probabley has no problem with it
@killer92173
@killer92173 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Herc is still breathing after saying Meg is, "More beautiful than Aphrodite" is beyond me. Lol
@shadowbladeandlightin8889
@shadowbladeandlightin8889 10 ай бұрын
More accurate to say it's surprising meg is still breathing as typically greek gods go after the ones they are compared to rather than the one comparing
@ashta6550
@ashta6550 9 ай бұрын
The fact he’s not making out with a shoe
@skibot9974
@skibot9974 9 ай бұрын
@@shadowbladeandlightin8889 well she does die about a few hours after herc says that
@beatriceretops
@beatriceretops 9 ай бұрын
@@ashta6550 the fact that he didn’t fall in love with the pillar that killed Meg
@goatplaysguitar
@goatplaysguitar 8 ай бұрын
*herac
@hermannroets1452
@hermannroets1452 4 ай бұрын
I think the main reason for Hera being his mother is because explaining an affair might be too complicated for kids (a result of making Zeus PG). So they had to replace her part in the story with someone... Still on of the best if not the best Greek myth based film...
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 4 ай бұрын
That's no excuse. They could still have made her the villain, just give her a different motive. I mean, she did try to overthrow Zeus in the myths.
@hey_im_blod
@hey_im_blod 6 ай бұрын
"More beautiful than Aphrodite?" Heracles's last words
@ultimatebishoujo29
@ultimatebishoujo29 Күн бұрын
Yup lol
@ultimatebishoujo29
@ultimatebishoujo29 Күн бұрын
Yup lol
@Linuxdirk
@Linuxdirk Жыл бұрын
I am always fascinated by how Hades is described as bad while he's basically the only sane god out there ...
@lefantomer
@lefantomer Жыл бұрын
And he's not a "satan" figure -- he's just in charge of the dead. Not his fault his office is boring.
@anirbanhasan8988
@anirbanhasan8988 Жыл бұрын
@@lefantomer The closest thing we have to Greek Satan is Typhon. And the closest thing to a Greek God of Death is Thanatos (he controls the die)
@naughtymelon6712
@naughtymelon6712 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Hades is actually really chill in mythology.
@lefantomer
@lefantomer Жыл бұрын
@@naughtymelon6712 But they always gotta have their "satan" figure, and his is the only name the ignoramuses have ever heard.
@speeddemonji9547
@speeddemonji9547 Жыл бұрын
Yes because “king of the underworld” MUST mean he’s like satan because that’s who also rules the underworld in Christian mythos it all makes sense!
@chloerogers8841
@chloerogers8841 2 жыл бұрын
Something else strange about that zeus can't be your dad scene is that I'm pretty sure in a time in Greece it was more common to be zeus's son than being left handed
@north6927
@north6927 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think that percentage wise you're right
@squirrel8185
@squirrel8185 2 жыл бұрын
@@north6927 no... not a "son" of Zeus, but a "decendint" of him yes. it was sed that the initer population of sparta where long decendints of his.
@animatedbirdcarcass
@animatedbirdcarcass 2 жыл бұрын
@@squirrel8185 have you checked your spelling
@mowermen1762
@mowermen1762 2 жыл бұрын
@@animatedbirdcarcass it gets the point across that’s what matters
@fr0stdr4ke95
@fr0stdr4ke95 2 жыл бұрын
And yet. Amusingly. Poseidon still banged more mortals.
@larrystylinson_1829
@larrystylinson_1829 5 ай бұрын
As someone who studies latin and greek 8 hour per week in high school I can say that Disney’s version always drives me crazy😭
@katelijnesommen
@katelijnesommen 3 ай бұрын
Why, though? It's very clear they actually know the traditional versions of the Heracles story quite well, considering the things that they did get right and the small cheeky references to details from the older sources. This is such a funny, clever addition to the rich, infinitely varied tapestry of versions of this story that already existed in antiquity; there is no 'original' version of any myth and that is why these stories are still alive, relevant and vibrant today, right? I studied Greek in university and I love this movie so much; it actually totally belongs in the mythical tradition and treats its material much like the storytellers in ancient Greece likely did, with flexibility, humour, and metareferences.
@TheIdealofGreed
@TheIdealofGreed Ай бұрын
​@@katelijnesommenYES! Finally. Thank you, that is so wonderful to hear😁
@Seoqix
@Seoqix 14 күн бұрын
Salve! :)
@galacticspecter4364
@galacticspecter4364 2 ай бұрын
It’s pretty funny how many aspects of Hera were grafted on Hades in this movie right down to the hostile takeover of Olympus.
@kendiaz89
@kendiaz89 Жыл бұрын
Hades in this movie: Evil God who is evil because underworld = hell. Hades in myths: Dour Strict Man who's stuck in a boring but important job who's trying to just live his life, and is probably annoyed at us humans because of how often we kill ourselves.
@avaloscornel
@avaloscornel Жыл бұрын
?
@karina_S13
@karina_S13 Жыл бұрын
._. Yikes poor hades mythology
@dr.bright6272
@dr.bright6272 Жыл бұрын
Onwards brothers, we'll live forever! *dies en mass*
@kendiaz89
@kendiaz89 Жыл бұрын
@@dr.bright6272 Fury: Sire the new section is full Hades: Again?! We literally just got that built! Fury: It seems like there's another war in the human realm and another unit of soldiers rushed to their deaths. Hades: OH FOR FU-
@who3730
@who3730 Жыл бұрын
@@kendiaz89 Ares: *laughs uncontrollably*
@Tom-vx7qh
@Tom-vx7qh Жыл бұрын
Herc: "She's even more beautiful than Aphrodite" Also Herc: *continues to be alive Huge inaccuracy right there
@cybercriminal3110
@cybercriminal3110 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@beccacroce7380
@beccacroce7380 Жыл бұрын
He did almost lose Meg soon after.
@horizonanadyomene
@horizonanadyomene Жыл бұрын
aphrodite seemed happy to see him at the end so idk. she's more goddess of love than jealousy and tbf he was falling in love at that point so she might've forgiven it on a technicality
@Espion-
@Espion- Жыл бұрын
@@horizonanadyomeneidk what greek mythology you read but "aphrodite is a goddess of love not jealousy" is prob exactly what all those mortals thought before dying an awful death lmao
@xathridtech727
@xathridtech727 Жыл бұрын
@@horizonanadyomene Aphrodite is the prime example of that hot girl with bipolar depression. Medusa is the easiest example.aphrodite needs to be the most beautiful or hell will be paid
@richardklein1167
@richardklein1167 2 ай бұрын
The Nemean lion skin was like Heracles' Iron Man armor because it was so tough to pierce with spears, swords or bows he had to snap its neck in the end. It made him decide, "Wearing this asap!" The movie is fun but it likes mashing things together. They could've made a toga or his armor's cape at the end of the movie out of it to represent this in the movie.
@Speedy4324FTW
@Speedy4324FTW 4 ай бұрын
That final yell of HERACLES always gets me when rewatching this 🤣
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Жыл бұрын
This movie is exactly why some people assumed that Hades was an actual bad guy. If anyhing, Zeus is more of a bad guy than he is in actual mythology.
@Wexidous
@Wexidous Жыл бұрын
@Elerick true
@cartoonishidealism582
@cartoonishidealism582 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Disney doesn’t get all the credit. DC comics have been pulling this shit since the 1940s. Not to mention the word “Hades” has been equated with the Christian “Hell” in literary texts for hundreds upon hundreds of years.
@Prod.Anguss
@Prod.Anguss Жыл бұрын
How many channels are you subbed to Man with out a mustache?
@hellspawnx3526
@hellspawnx3526 Жыл бұрын
Why you changed profile picture?
@fjalac9661
@fjalac9661 Жыл бұрын
First time I've seen you misspell on a comment.
@jjjooppp
@jjjooppp Жыл бұрын
Hera is the archetype of evil stepmother, I’m surprised Disney didn’t capitalize on that.
@MBValentine
@MBValentine Жыл бұрын
Hear me out: Evil mother bad
@yahikokurotama4351
@yahikokurotama4351 Жыл бұрын
Guess it only works if the mc is female
@viroshanargiri4641
@viroshanargiri4641 Жыл бұрын
Well can you really blame her ? Her husband/brother fucks everything women even his own great-great granddaughter .
@z.o.a.r.7813
@z.o.a.r.7813 Жыл бұрын
​@@yahikokurotama4351that makes sense considering all the other Disney movies only have evil stepmothers when the main character's a female
@mdmyer
@mdmyer Жыл бұрын
Who can blame her for hating the product of her husband's infidelity? Yeah it wasn't the kid's fault but still..
@leadpaintchips9461
@leadpaintchips9461 4 ай бұрын
From the stories that I read, Heracles was more like a kind hearted frat boy. Had some smarts (not an excessive amount), felt bad when he goofed something, but _loved_ a good party. If he mucked up, he owned up to it.
@ultimatebishoujo29
@ultimatebishoujo29 Күн бұрын
That’s true
@julius_the_python
@julius_the_python 5 ай бұрын
This was a superb video, and as an avid student of ancient Greece, disney's version always drove me nuts, despite knowing of course it was altered for a nice story, as many myths are. No 5 year old Bambi fan wants to really see Zeus uh "having his way" with a swan or Chronos swallowing his kids. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together!!
@katelijnesommen
@katelijnesommen 3 ай бұрын
I feel ya, but at the same time, imo the best and most interesting feature of Greek (and any, really) mythology is just how flexible it is, how many versions there are, how in every retelling there would have been different details and focuses. They just weren't fixed stories, they were elements of a living oral tradition and every storyteller could change or add what he wanted. This is just another addition to that incredibly rich tradition! That idea helps me personally to enjoy adaptations that are very different to the 'source' material (which doesn't really exist). :)
@aacmbirdzilla2343
@aacmbirdzilla2343 Жыл бұрын
As one spanish comment once said: "If Disney had been 5% faithful to the original mythology, Hercules wouldn't have been a family friendly movie at all"
@Akar42718
@Akar42718 Жыл бұрын
HERACLES
@history-jovian
@history-jovian Жыл бұрын
HERACLES DAMNIT I PEED MY PANTS AGAIN
@raisasomaraki3870
@raisasomaraki3870 Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@michaelbudiman8068
@michaelbudiman8068 Жыл бұрын
@@Akar42718 i know you went on with the joke but i mean the comment says “Hercules” not refering to the character but to the movie’s title.
@somedorkydude6483
@somedorkydude6483 Жыл бұрын
Well If they were accurate then where was Mars I saw heracles' father but where is mars
@DanMort2578
@DanMort2578 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention: at the start of the movie Hades mentions Zeus gave him the job as god of the Underworld, but in reality it was a simple draw between the three gods. Hades just happened to randomly draw the Underworld, like Zeus randomly got the Sky, and Poseidon the Ocean. Zeus didn't give Hades the Underworld. Hades gave himself the Underworld.
@9751matt
@9751matt 2 жыл бұрын
For the most part yes. Hades chose the role simply because his brothers didn't want it and it was a necessary job. Hades technically COULD have been king of the seas, but Poseidan already chose the seas as his domain even before people in Mycanaean Greece even knew Zeus had two older brothers.
@ordinalchaos
@ordinalchaos 2 жыл бұрын
Though some versions of that story have it that Zeus cheated.
@jalil2985
@jalil2985 2 жыл бұрын
@@ordinalchaos and thats probably be for the better. Would hate to see what would the underworld would be managed under Zeus who got a serious problem managing whats below his belt.
@marcusaaronliaogo9158
@marcusaaronliaogo9158 2 жыл бұрын
@@jalil2985 “The deadussy making me unwise.” -Zeus
@potatogaming7044
@potatogaming7044 2 жыл бұрын
In a different story they screwed him over on purpose
@enerioffutt1881
@enerioffutt1881 2 ай бұрын
So glad to know I'm not the only one who really enjoyed the movie despite the inaccuracies in it.
@scarsolar232
@scarsolar232 6 ай бұрын
When Hercules is wearing the lion skin in the movie, phil is listing the other labours he still has to do including the stables and the girdle from some amazons. And he was going to list more until Hercules interrupted him so they do reference the other labours Hercules hasn’t done yet.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 4 ай бұрын
Sure but if they're only mentioned, did he REALLY do them?
@Mirinovic
@Mirinovic Ай бұрын
Not some Amazon but queen of Amazons
@Simbala-bq5vy
@Simbala-bq5vy 27 күн бұрын
Also that lion skin in the movie is actually Scar from the lion king
@justaguywhowatchesyoutube5588
@justaguywhowatchesyoutube5588 11 ай бұрын
Hercules: "She's even more beautiful than Aphrodite” Aphrodite: " I'll pretend I didn't hear that" Huge inaccuracy right there
@Jasper_thefallenAngel
@Jasper_thefallenAngel 7 ай бұрын
I think Arachne said something similar about Athena and got cursed
@riianimates
@riianimates 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@curerose0630
@curerose0630 6 ай бұрын
@@Jasper_thefallenAngelyeah sth like she was better than Athena and the gods are all ... sinful?
@SavioByrczak
@SavioByrczak 6 ай бұрын
she said her weaving skills were better than Athena's and when they battled and were equally good, Athena got mad and turned the girl into a spider :D@@Jasper_thefallenAngel
@dr.bright6272
@dr.bright6272 6 ай бұрын
​@Jasper_thefallenAngel yep. Never say you're better at something than the gods.
@chimkim
@chimkim 2 жыл бұрын
The short pause followed by "You didn't know about Iphicles, did you?" Is absolutely golden
@squirrel8185
@squirrel8185 2 жыл бұрын
he aculy got me there. i was one of only 3 new things i lerned from this video. most of it i all ready knew.
@lordofthegrains2918
@lordofthegrains2918 2 жыл бұрын
@@WooffzTheCoon that would be helpful if we were actually talking about Achilles but they're talking about Heracles's half brother Iphicles
@k1zindahouzed858
@k1zindahouzed858 2 жыл бұрын
@@WooffzTheCoon uh.. achillies is very different from iphicles. Iphicles is his nephew.
@muhammedkayraguler8237
@muhammedkayraguler8237 Жыл бұрын
Time to google who iphocles is
@lilhypnotique
@lilhypnotique Жыл бұрын
I read he had a sister too, Laonome. Lol and she married one of Heracles’s Argo shipmates. And from the little I read he was straight ride or die type of brother literally. You brother goes insane and not only kills his family but throws your kids into a fire and you still go off with him. That takes some real loyalty.
@ShimmerEco
@ShimmerEco 5 ай бұрын
I love the Hades art used in this. The art in that game is just amazing and I love that you had it here.
@genesismultiverse4896
@genesismultiverse4896 Ай бұрын
Persephone: 🎶who put comedy in comedian?🎶 All of the underworld: 🎶h a d e s🎶
@ultimatebishoujo29
@ultimatebishoujo29 Күн бұрын
Lol
@genesismultiverse4896
@genesismultiverse4896 Күн бұрын
@@ultimatebishoujo29 but accurate
@fluffystuff500
@fluffystuff500 Жыл бұрын
Most of the things you had to say about Hades could be summed up by saying: "Hades was NOT just Greek Satan"
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Greek Satan would be Tartarus.
@mr.sniffly5297
@mr.sniffly5297 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 i thought tartarus was just greek hell, as in the underworld itself I could be wrong idk
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.sniffly5297 That's only an endless pit in the Underworld-and the name of a primal god who the pit was named after. I had trouble figuring it out for a while.
@arks_knights
@arks_knights Жыл бұрын
Hades was just doing his job and has an actually functional marriage compare to zues and poseidon who banged all of greece
@lenkagamine80
@lenkagamine80 Жыл бұрын
I start to confuse between Tartarus and Thanatos now
@degeneratewilson
@degeneratewilson Жыл бұрын
"More beautiful than aphrodite?" Made me nearly have a heart attack and look around in fear. Woman is crazy evil and petty.
@samdalseide5060
@samdalseide5060 Жыл бұрын
And now she'll kill YOU.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
Why isn't Aphrodite ever a villain in these Greek mythology movies again?
@justforrow
@justforrow Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 Idk
@nmarfell1
@nmarfell1 Жыл бұрын
If you were the god of love and beauty and a mortal said they were your better, you'd be pissed too. Though it happens the a lot with Aphrodite as most greek tragedies depicted the people as "the most' attractive A few Gods acted this way, when their domain was challenged by mortals. Athena and Arachne. Apollo and Marsyas. Zeus and Salmoneus
@tijanamilenkovic3425
@tijanamilenkovic3425 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 maybe because love is seen as positive thing
@thetruebloodchannel6194
@thetruebloodchannel6194 6 ай бұрын
The funny thing about Lachesis (the tall blue one) saying how they're not supposed to predict the future is that at this moment between Atropos (the short red one) and Panic, she makes a little comment about indoor plumbing and how it's gonna be big, which is predicting the future. Like, Lachesis is like "nooooooo stop telling people about things that happen in the future nooo" and Atropos is like "hehe have you other guys heard about cars"
@EliteWarrior1026
@EliteWarrior1026 2 ай бұрын
My introduction to Greek Mythology was actually the Percy Jackson book series, so when I finally saw this movie I was blown away by all the inaccuracies!
@danicrose9352
@danicrose9352 Ай бұрын
Like, how hard is it to research before making a movie? (Looking at you, failed attempts at a PJO movie)
@gothicMCRgirl
@gothicMCRgirl Ай бұрын
@@danicrose9352I don’t know, I don’t recall this movie ever stating it was going to be a faithful recreation of the myth. In fact, most Disney films based on fairy tales and myths are very rarely faithful to the source material. They’re not supposed to be a retelling, they’re supposed to be different versions altogether. That’s why the full name of the movie is DISNEY’s Hercules, and not just Hercules.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly though Hera sounds like a much more interesting villain. I think they could rewrite the story into Hera being a villain in a way that would still be appropriate. They could make Hades an ally to Heracles as well given that he’d have to go to the underworld anyway due to his labors.
@lunerblade13
@lunerblade13 2 жыл бұрын
If we are going the revisionist route I would have made Poseidon the antagonist perhaps envious of being in Zeus’s shadow and wants to one up him. Heck in this movie the prison for the titans is depicted in the ocean or some body of water.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunerblade13 That can work, it’s true Poseidon and Zeus are rivals. Heracles has had fought against the Cretan Bull, an embodiment of Poseidon’s Rage, Heracles also fought two of Poseidon’s sons with Zeus’s help, and freed a woman that was meant to be sacrificed to Poseidon. While I still think Hera would be the best villain for Heracles I can definitely see Poseidon playing a large antagonistic role.
@teheyepatch
@teheyepatch 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that the reason they went against myth and made Hercules the son of Zeus and Hera in this movie was because Disney wasn't willing to deal with children born outside of wedlock in their kids movies.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 2 жыл бұрын
@@teheyepatch True but they could rewrite it to Hera being an angry ex, jealous sister or just not mentioning a romantic relationship.
@IAmIn_Constant_Confusion
@IAmIn_Constant_Confusion 2 жыл бұрын
I get the flaming hair doesnt make sense for hades, but I love his character in this movie, seeing him as an ally character would be a dream come true
@elanawelun8045
@elanawelun8045 2 жыл бұрын
Technically the “He was mean as he was ruthless” part isn’t wrong, he isn’t very much of either. It would be like calling Zeus as faithful as he was mortal
@code__mochi
@code__mochi 2 жыл бұрын
yes! thank you
@nullone3181
@nullone3181 2 жыл бұрын
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
@rage1lazer507
@rage1lazer507 2 жыл бұрын
Technically yes you are right
@Amadeus8484
@Amadeus8484 2 жыл бұрын
Hades wasn't mean but he didn't fuck around either.
@elizakarnopp8921
@elizakarnopp8921 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO yes
@naomiharding-smith1221
@naomiharding-smith1221 6 ай бұрын
Some part of me desperately wished that you'd kept going and said all of Zeus' (confirmed and unconfirmed) children. I would have died from laughing lmao
@canonically47
@canonically47 2 ай бұрын
the ultimate "um, actually" that i've ALWAYS needed to see about this movie. i'm a huge greek mythology nerd and hearing your thoughts was so refreshing. loved the video!
@uny4781
@uny4781 2 жыл бұрын
i really like how this is less "this movie is dumb and wrong lmao" and more "hey, listen to these cool mythology facts!"
@genzllogronio4450
@genzllogronio4450 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, there were no elevators in greek mythology
@FramesJanco505
@FramesJanco505 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, it’s more so the former
@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer.
@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer. 2 жыл бұрын
I still think its dumb but not cause of the inaccuracies
@iamdjiamput7552
@iamdjiamput7552 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, so it's real there's no elevator or heracles figure with pectoral muscle on greek mythology?
@kanashii9472
@kanashii9472 2 жыл бұрын
@@FramesJanco505 the man stated that he loves this movie so its definitely the latter lmfao
@yoyoedge5733
@yoyoedge5733 2 жыл бұрын
you're all missing the easy Disney trope that would've worked perfect for the story of Hera being a villian: Evil Stepmom Trope. It's literally right there and they just missed it
@urielantoniobarcelosavenda780
@urielantoniobarcelosavenda780 2 жыл бұрын
Ey, you're right, evil step mom would have fit in
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
Better answer: They were bored of Evil Stepmoms at the time and switched it up on the ONE story it would've been a faithful approach to.
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 2 жыл бұрын
This was during Disney's Renaissance Era where they first tried to subvert the classic Disney Formula. Evil Stepmom would have been too much like their Golden Age films and they wanted to seem more Progressive. That's why Megara is a Don't Need No Man character and she doesn't just fall in love with Hercules. She's an older woman whose become jaded and he is the naive young man trying to win her affection.
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 Bored? They hadn't used the evil stepmom trope since the 50's. Also, I don't think this movie deviates from the Greek myths because the writers were ignorant. I think they simply thought the movie would be more marketable if it had more Christian elements in it. And I recall an interview where the directors said their main inspiration for this movie was Superman. And you can kinda see the Superman influences in this movie if you look closely.
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlanetZoidstar No. The Disney Renaissance wanted to emulate the Golden Age but with 90's political correctness. The evil stepmom trope wasn't considered outdated. In fact, it would have been quite subversive to use that trope in a male-centered movie rather than a Disney Princess movie. And the "I don't need no man" trope started with Jasmine in Aladdin. It was popular and a guaranteed success, so they used that for Megara's character as well.
@YourDadsUnclesFriend
@YourDadsUnclesFriend 3 ай бұрын
The one of the most accurate things about this movie is when Phil points out how many Greek mythology characters had a lot of “Yeuseus” sounding names. There are so many…
@sirrobert3694
@sirrobert3694 4 ай бұрын
One example of "or worse" could be Arachne who was turned into the first of the Lovecraftian horrors that are spiders.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 3 ай бұрын
Are you…by chance Ron Weasley or Annabeth Chase? Because spiders can easily be beaten by wasps.
@miamor2624
@miamor2624 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, Arachne's myth is pretty much a Roman fanfic made by Ovid. He seemed to have something against Athena/Minerva in particular. He's also the who wrote the version where Medusa was abused by Poseidon/Neptune and transformed into a Gorgon by Minerva, which somehow became so popular that people believe it's a real myth.
@sirrobert3694
@sirrobert3694 2 ай бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 I know, but they're freakin' creepy idk
@sirrobert3694
@sirrobert3694 2 ай бұрын
@@miamor2624 Wait, really? So everyone saying Medusa was a victim was a bunch of bull? So was Arachne? That is interedring, thank you for telling me.
@miamor2624
@miamor2624 2 ай бұрын
@@sirrobert3694 Perry much. But then again, Ovid wrote stories like Medusa's to showcase the consequences of the abuse of power in ancient Rome, and he used the gods, the maximum figures of authority, to illustrate his point. In original Greek mythology, Medusa was already born as a Gorgon along with her 2 sisters, and was never abused by anyone. She did have a relationship with Poseidon, but in the Theogony, their encounter is described in a romantic way.
@the_sleep_deprived_luca
@the_sleep_deprived_luca 7 ай бұрын
Just realized that when Hades says he has plans for August, he means his wife is coming home. That’s sweet and cool that they added that reference to Persephone and their relationship
@JustAPrayer
@JustAPrayer 5 ай бұрын
I never caught that before. It makes me wish we could have seen what Disney would have designed her to look like.
@SakuraLuckyStar
@SakuraLuckyStar 5 ай бұрын
@@JustAPrayer Some people think she is the young goddess next to the green goddess (Demeter??) with pink flowers
@robbiewalker2831
@robbiewalker2831 4 ай бұрын
@@JustAPrayer Not only does it make me want to think of Persephone depicted in a similar fashion to Lena from the Live-Action Mario movie, but that also means Hades and Maleficent shouldn’t even be dating at all.
@jwhaler82
@jwhaler82 3 ай бұрын
😳 How did I not realize that until u pointed it out?!
@rosthouse
@rosthouse 3 ай бұрын
...just realized that the month August wouldn't be called that during the movie, as the month was only named for Augustus by the romans way later.
@ptheorist4670
@ptheorist4670 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in Greek schools we get taught about Greek mythology as early as in third grade, which is a bit weird considering we are being taught the... less kid-friendly matters as well (i.e. Kronos swallowing his children, Zeus being ridiculously unfaithful, Herakles being manipulated into killing his family, etc.). Also, at least among Gen X-ers, Millenials and Gen Z-ers, we would read about Greek mythology from childrens' books. So from a young age even we all know at least the basics of the mythology. Because of this, when this movie was brought to Greece, its title was translated to "Herakles: Beyond the Myth" because the translators knew that even young children would see the movie and go like "That's not how the myth goes like!", and in fact, we did go like that. I even remember as a little kid talking with friends about it and us going like "Yeah normally it didn't happen like this but the movie shows another story". I have no idea how other cultures see this film, but most of us Greeks see it as a kind of a parody, one that we won't take too seriously but because of some great acting from the voice actors (the one for Hades, especially) we find it entertaining and it's kind of a classic, especially among mid- to late milennials. EDIT: It's so interesting to see people from so many countries across the world say they were also taught Greek mythology at school! Though I definitely don't think we're unique in that; the main reason I mentioned our education of it is that the Greek translators of the film felt the need to add a "Beyond the Myth" in the title, and I felt it was an interesting fact to share here 😄
@pho_is_not_interesting
@pho_is_not_interesting 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually really interesting. I never would have thought you guys still learn about this stuff!
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
I heard they sort of did something similar for the Russia release for the animated Anastasia film. Since she is based off a real life Russian princess with the film taking plenty of historical liberties of her, the royal family, Tsar Nicholas II, Rasputin, and the Russian revolution, there was concern of it causing a lot of controversy in her home country, so the marketing team did there best they could in the Russian advertisements to make it look as much of historical fairly tale story as possible and downplay anything related to any real history. And it was received well from the Russian public, though it did still get some backlash from Ana’s living relatives and the Russian Orthodox church.
@silvercandra4275
@silvercandra4275 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a german who also grew up with greek mythology and I'm talking the actual myths, just without all the gruesome details, so I knew the movie didn't really align with any of them. I always just saw it as Disney trying to make a kids movie. There aren't a lot of child friendly greek myths, at least not that I am aware of, so of course they'd censor and rewrite a bunch of stuff, but only now, that I actually looked into Herakles a bit more, do I know just how much...
@breadcrumb7927
@breadcrumb7927 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from the U.S and learned about it in 4th grade. Since then I fell in love with greek mythology!!
@that1nerd756
@that1nerd756 2 жыл бұрын
@@silvercandra4275 I mean... there ARE a few you could easily find, and you can dumb down a lot of them to be more child friendly, but yeah....
@magicmark6893
@magicmark6893 Ай бұрын
This whole time I thought that there was action figures with inflatable pectoral muscles in Ancient Greece. Thanks for clearing that up
@joshtillema7798
@joshtillema7798 Ай бұрын
i never knew that Greece didn't have elevators! truly a in depth guide!
@kyliviie2903
@kyliviie2903 2 жыл бұрын
Dude when you listed the names of the people Zeus was the father of, I LEGITIMATELY did not recognize most of them
@coribakescakes4279
@coribakescakes4279 2 жыл бұрын
He keeps his illegitimate kids under wraps so Hera doesn't find out 😂
@TheMythologyGuy1
@TheMythologyGuy1 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll bet Zeus doesn’t either
@Ultra_Instinct_Jaune_Arc
@Ultra_Instinct_Jaune_Arc 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair zeus has so many kids that you could actually make a OC fanfiction about it
@coribakescakes4279
@coribakescakes4279 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ultra_Instinct_Jaune_Arc tru that
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMythologyGuy1 The directors of Hercules admitted that this Movie was made out of obligation. They originally wanted to make Treasure Planet first, but Disney hated the idea. However Disney said that if they make a film that is as marketable as Aladdin, then they can make Treasure Planet.
@begone404
@begone404 Жыл бұрын
I love how they portrayed Hera as a loving mother to Heracles, even though actually she wasn't his mother, tried to kill him ruthlessly twice, made him kill his own family and interfered in one of his labors, which resulted in Hypolita's death.
@DCypherno
@DCypherno Жыл бұрын
Twice if I remember.
@thundahsenshi150
@thundahsenshi150 Жыл бұрын
She actually DID Mother him and raise him with Athena BEFORE she found out who’s child he was. It’s supposedly where his strength came from. I don’t remember WHO told her but Athena who Didn’t know either had to sneak him out of Olympus and back to his mother and stepfather before she threw him off the mountain
@ABC4FREEROBUX
@ABC4FREEROBUX Жыл бұрын
@@thundahsenshi150 Hera explained simply, I don't like you. Off the mountain you go, YEET!
@awesomeperson5150
@awesomeperson5150 Жыл бұрын
Heracles is also literally named after ‘Bane of Hera’, or the like
@gavinbrown216
@gavinbrown216 Жыл бұрын
@@awesomeperson5150 glory of Hera, actually. Named after all the quests Hera made him do or to mitigate her wrath, depending on the version.
@korsekil
@korsekil 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the fact that Hades not only let him take back the soul of his friend's wife and tame Cerberus proves he was less of a Scar and more just that really chill uncle that you don't visit often.
@DeirdreCareyTEM2
@DeirdreCareyTEM2 2 ай бұрын
That last HERACLES was filled with SO much emotion.
@foodofthegods
@foodofthegods Жыл бұрын
Take note, Disney: “God of the sea” does not mean a literal fish with a fork for a weapon. Still, I absolutely love that design.
@firstsight3429
@firstsight3429 Жыл бұрын
69th like
@foodofthegods
@foodofthegods Жыл бұрын
@@firstsight3429 Thank you ;)
@adityasyahputra7329
@adityasyahputra7329 Жыл бұрын
here's i think you did a great job with Triton...... seriously Disney
@foodofthegods
@foodofthegods Жыл бұрын
@@adityasyahputra7329 *Poseidon
@adityasyahputra7329
@adityasyahputra7329 Жыл бұрын
@@foodofthegods IIRC Triton never talked about his father
@ashleygordon907
@ashleygordon907 6 ай бұрын
Loved this video. Ever since learning about the Greek gods in school, and doing my own research, it’s always bothered me when they use the Roman name Hercules when talking about the Greek version Heracles. It bothers me so damned much.
@speedracer2008
@speedracer2008 3 ай бұрын
Same. What do people have against the Greek version of the name? It’s awesome, especially in French.
@theredandblueyakuza9256
@theredandblueyakuza9256 5 ай бұрын
Just want to point out that the part you said Hercules is more than just his strength, he specifically beats that cyclops without his strength in the cartoon as well, using strategy and some quick thinking to make it fall off a cliff
@LetsPlayCrazy
@LetsPlayCrazy 2 жыл бұрын
"There were actually no elevators in greek mythology!" My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
The buildings weren't even that big; There'd be no point in elevators. And before anyone brings up the Alexandria Lighthouse or other giant buildings those are not civilian homes.
@Polymerata
@Polymerata 2 жыл бұрын
If there's No elevator. I ain't goin to die,I'll used up all the Revive Potion my Witch best friend gave me. *(She died of Mana consumption and I was sentence to death and that lead me to here)*
@guilhermedeb.1347
@guilhermedeb.1347 Жыл бұрын
I believe that one of the reasons they chose to make Hades the bad guy instead of Hera was to drift away from the old Disney formula of having the stepmother as the villain
@projekttaku1
@projekttaku1 Жыл бұрын
idk about that. I think they just wanted to make the movie more marketable.
@leon1san
@leon1san Жыл бұрын
they just went hell = bad, hades must be the bad guy!
@SuperKing604
@SuperKing604 Жыл бұрын
Also hades and underworld seem similar to devil and hell
@TheBlueMarbleItself
@TheBlueMarbleItself Жыл бұрын
@@SuperKing604 Except Satan is pure evil, and in my eyes, especially taking the story of Prometheus into account, Hades is more moral than Zeus.
@brent8407
@brent8407 Жыл бұрын
Hades makes up for a good villain, I think it was the right call.
@Mirilah
@Mirilah 5 ай бұрын
There are many versions of the hydra story, where it does multiply the number of heads when cut off. It does usually start with around 9, though. Also, I love the comment about Phil being surprised by Zeus being the father of Heracles, given that nearly every Greek myth tends to start with 'Zeus sees someone he wants to nail'. Another fun thing to mention: the reason "only gods can live on Olympus", is largely that, if a mortal witnesses a god/goddess in their true form, they die. Just ask Dionysus about his mom. So... when Meg was up there on Olympus... (are we not even talking about how it's made to look like the pearly gates of Christianity?). Anyway, she should've burst into flames, or something.
@You-mr3lo
@You-mr3lo 6 ай бұрын
In the Netherlands (North Brabant) we have the Efteling theme park. It focuses on the original stories of European writers. What Disney mainly does is make fairy tales "Disney-proof" or sugar-coating.
@bennetsheckells6741
@bennetsheckells6741 Жыл бұрын
I love how he listed names of Zeus’s children for a solid 13 seconds and still ends it with “and several others.” Time stamp: 9:38
@elliotdoesart3338
@elliotdoesart3338 Жыл бұрын
Adding that is only his mortal children
@angelmybaby13
@angelmybaby13 Жыл бұрын
my reaction was literally: damn, zeus was a slut
@CassianBlank
@CassianBlank Жыл бұрын
Zeus is a literal man-whore
@lenasz.6612
@lenasz.6612 Жыл бұрын
If I counted correctly 21 names
@mochitheceltiberian4007
@mochitheceltiberian4007 Жыл бұрын
Zeus sure gets around
@NidotheKing
@NidotheKing Жыл бұрын
Hades is arguably the kindest and most reasonable of the big 3. It's so criminal that he gets the short end of the stick in tellings like these.
@kushjindal2939
@kushjindal2939 8 ай бұрын
Maybe because he is the god underworld .disney automatically equated him to Satan or something
@user-tw3rh9po4t
@user-tw3rh9po4t 8 ай бұрын
That is a very, very low bar to pass.
@DavidRay39
@DavidRay39 7 ай бұрын
But hey, they got James Woods to voice him, which is certainly a plus.
@Julian-pw5mv
@Julian-pw5mv 7 ай бұрын
It's because the west, and especially the us has very heavy Christian influences. God of the underworld = the devil and the underworld = hell. So god of the underworld is evil.
@LEMATTOFFICIAL
@LEMATTOFFICIAL 6 ай бұрын
Mainly due to Christian influence in modern media. Any association with ruler of underworld must be evil and nefarious regardless of the actual story
@FuckingBoxBruh
@FuckingBoxBruh 3 ай бұрын
I learned a shit ton of stuff about greek mythology from this surprisingly. New sub!
@Cloakman-yt5fy
@Cloakman-yt5fy 5 ай бұрын
Hades was basically the cool uncle of Greek mythology
@ultimatebishoujo29
@ultimatebishoujo29 Күн бұрын
Yeah pretty much
@centuritron
@centuritron 2 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me that the Greek gods DIDN'T watch Karate Kid in an elevator while playing with their action figures?
@Kyra-qn3nh
@Kyra-qn3nh Жыл бұрын
The biggest issues I have with the movie is how they villainized the character who deserved it the LEAST, made Zeus a good husband (wtf), and made Hera Hercules' mother.
@cheesejam3773
@cheesejam3773 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@kanata-p
@kanata-p Жыл бұрын
Zeus is literally the worst father and husband.
@robertt8870
@robertt8870 Жыл бұрын
You mean Heracles'
@bk3thesamurai901
@bk3thesamurai901 Жыл бұрын
Disney: we need something easy for kids to understand, easy characters Also Disney: let’s make zues good because everyone loves Zeus and hades the bad guy because he works in the underworld
@epicmanepicmani7106
@epicmanepicmani7106 Жыл бұрын
Well showing that Zeus cheated on his wife and slept with every woman he could lay his eyes upon perhaps isn't the most ideal for a Disneys kids movie.
@CraigBoteng-fk8ez
@CraigBoteng-fk8ez 2 ай бұрын
I like how Zeus’s children had complex Greek names and one was just “Helen” like a Walmart employee.
@ultimatebishoujo29
@ultimatebishoujo29 Күн бұрын
Lol yup
@IDKWID1
@IDKWID1 4 ай бұрын
Something your videos reminded me of. Haven't thought about this in years, but long ago, when I was a wee one, I remember reading a pretty unique version of the Persephone/Hades myth where Demeter storms into Zeus's throne room and demands he tell their brother to give her damned daughter back right now. Zeus hems and haws and ends up basically saying 'Well, Persephone needs a husband anyway, so...' Then Demeter notices that Zeus has a new, blinged-out thunderbolt, made of gold and platinum and crusted with precious jewels. The implication was that Hades bribed him, as well as referring to the fact that, as god of the underworld, he basically had unlimited access to the wealth buried under the earth's crust. Just another reason that Hades, in fact, LOVED his job. But I've never seen that little detail pop up in any other retellings of the myth since, and I don't remember the book it was in. Was wondering what your (or anyone else who'd like to comment) thoughts on that are. Adore your channel, keep up the good work!
@kelsianderson8903
@kelsianderson8903 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact, Hebe is the daughter of Zeus and Hera. So not only did Heracles marry his half-sister, but the daughter of the Goddess who drive him insane.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully at that point, he forgave Hera.
@princessatellaluma
@princessatellaluma 7 ай бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 hebe was the peace offering as far as i know. It marked the end of the rivalry but idk if it was all forgive and forget lol
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 7 ай бұрын
@@princessatellaluma I'm too terrified to find out.
@Nameless82284
@Nameless82284 7 ай бұрын
Well aren't Zeus and Hera siblings too?
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 7 ай бұрын
@@Nameless82284 You think King Zeus cares?!
@nenakarra2579
@nenakarra2579 2 жыл бұрын
Hercules didn't hurt Cerberus, he's always depicted in Greek vases leaning down, putting his club aside and PETTING him. And then taking him on a leash to his mortal uncle who made him do those labors (and letting Cerberus terrify him). Also the reason he's called Heracles (which means 'glory of Hera') was to appease her wrath. He was first named Alcides or Alcaeus.
@GothPaoki
@GothPaoki 2 жыл бұрын
Heracles is the latinised version of his name. Has nothing to do with appeasing hera. The greek interpretation of the name Herakles already means glory of hera after all
@nenakarra2579
@nenakarra2579 2 жыл бұрын
@@GothPaoki He was first named Alcides but changed it to Heracles to appease Hera. Several mythological heroes had a different name when they were born (eg Priam, Achilles)
@bakatemplargaming2430
@bakatemplargaming2430 2 жыл бұрын
@@nenakarra2579 uh his name was never changed it was and has always been heracles
@bakatemplargaming2430
@bakatemplargaming2430 2 жыл бұрын
Cerberus was one of the labors, Heracles had to put a leash and capture it and bring it to hades
@bakatemplargaming2430
@bakatemplargaming2430 2 жыл бұрын
And you also know that before heracles obtained godhood he litterally forked a river so that he could clean the stables
@county9999
@county9999 6 ай бұрын
Hades was pretty chill guy Period
@ultimatebishoujo29
@ultimatebishoujo29 Күн бұрын
Facts
@Ilypookies
@Ilypookies 6 ай бұрын
Your voice is kind of comforting and your videos are very informative
@starberryshortcakee
@starberryshortcakee Жыл бұрын
the ‘WHOA HEY’ at the Aphrodite thing was filled with the distress of a man who has seen the horrors of Greek mythology
@the_knightcatTTv
@the_knightcatTTv 9 ай бұрын
She's the goddess of beauty not Mercy lol.
@isaiaholaru5013
@isaiaholaru5013 8 ай бұрын
She is actually very vengeful
@r3dleaf
@r3dleaf 8 ай бұрын
"more beautiful than Aphrodite" *A p h r o d i t e h a s e n t e r e d t h e c h a t*
@Ixbran
@Ixbran 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding Pain and Panic, its explained in the "losely canon" cartoon series that Pain and Panic are the physical manifestations of all the negative emotions that were released when Pandora opened the Box. They have several brothers each of whom is named after the many other bad things that came out. This probably has no ties to Greek Mythology as far as I'm aware. But I figured you might find that info interesting.
@dylantennant6594
@dylantennant6594 2 жыл бұрын
It has some truth to it, but not a lot. Some versions of the pandora story do feature manifestations of such forces being released. Nosoi (plague spirits) being one such example.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylantennant6594 The Disney wiki confirmed that they are based on Deimos and Phobos.
@elias.t
@elias.t 2 жыл бұрын
@@orangeslash1667 That's fan-written, though, isn't it? What are their sources?
@amandablack4741
@amandablack4741 2 жыл бұрын
In the Disney Hercules cartoon Phobos and Demos appear as their own characters.
@devil3678
@devil3678 2 жыл бұрын
There are the algea, Daughters of Eris and the personifications of Pain, Grief and Distress or Trouble. But there are 1) Three of them and 2) they are barely mentioned. Also, Phrike, the Daemon of Horror could be an Inspiration. I think she might even belong to the spirits Pandora freed. Nur still, it Sounds unlikely.
@franciscoallende2097
@franciscoallende2097 3 ай бұрын
First time I see your channel. I love it😂 Greek mythology is one of my favorites
@Dr_Bright
@Dr_Bright 4 ай бұрын
As a mythology nerd I greatly appreciate this video pointing out Disneys oversights 👍🏻
@z.o.a.r.7813
@z.o.a.r.7813 Жыл бұрын
Perseus is literally the greatest hero that Phil talks about, even has a damn constellation of his own AND a happy ending, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT IN A HERO???
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
I would guess the Disney Perseus is that statue Medusa(who’s nice in the Hercules TV series) shifted into the light. Meanwhile, Jason, Odysseus, Achilles, and Theseus seem fine in the series so I would just guess Phil’s a terrible teacher.
@Gormathius
@Gormathius Жыл бұрын
You just can't please some people.
@justinbowers2749
@justinbowers2749 Жыл бұрын
Evidently Phil has extremely high standards
@churchofeg
@churchofeg Жыл бұрын
An h in the name
@baconlordthereal
@baconlordthereal Жыл бұрын
well odysseus also eventually got a happy ending
@eyallev
@eyallev 2 жыл бұрын
(19:50) "he doesn't have his helmet of invisibility" actually, half the movie features him wearing that (you just can't see him when he does ...)
@Maric18
@Maric18 2 жыл бұрын
when its not on, it has a funny side effect of making his head look like its on fire
@christopheredwards9904
@christopheredwards9904 2 жыл бұрын
hoho, I see what you did there
@komasangamer7746
@komasangamer7746 2 ай бұрын
Honestly this is a pretty good way to learn about Greek mythology
@andersenh5924
@andersenh5924 9 күн бұрын
immediately subscribed. I learned so much. It sucks that most people think what they showed in the animated movie was true. Personally i think the real story was much more interesting. Thanks dude :)
@adrianaalves6655
@adrianaalves6655 Жыл бұрын
The way he's so triggered "THE TROJAN WAR HAS NOT HAPPENED YET" and "HERA CLES" is hilarious and relatable
@joshuaclabeaux1470
@joshuaclabeaux1470 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the biggest issue I took with this film was the time inaccuracies; Heracles is supposed to sail on the Argo with Jason and the Trojan War hasn't happened yet.
@GABRIEL-du4uy
@GABRIEL-du4uy Жыл бұрын
If is good
@fangirl3323
@fangirl3323 Жыл бұрын
timestamp?
@KenjiCarlobos
@KenjiCarlobos Жыл бұрын
19:16
@thatgrumpychick4928
@thatgrumpychick4928 Жыл бұрын
"Along came Zeus" yeah that's how a lot of ancient myths and dramas started Disney is known for sugar coating the core stories. With this story, they buried it in 100kg of sugar
@mrwill-wv4gu
@mrwill-wv4gu Жыл бұрын
Along came zeus he shot his thunderbolt right down in her vault
@koahnoah
@koahnoah Жыл бұрын
It makes sense bcz it won't very kid friendly if they showed Zeus cheating on hera
@ruhenshamraaj8728
@ruhenshamraaj8728 Жыл бұрын
100kg isn't enough if you compared this to some of the messed up shit in greek mythology. Good example is the creation of the minotaur.
@sea2656
@sea2656 Жыл бұрын
@@ruhenshamraaj8728 OH GOD NO PLEASE I DONT WANNA REMEMBER
@cavareenvius7886
@cavareenvius7886 Жыл бұрын
Disney is able to take a pedophilic ice witch and turn her into the main character of their movie.
@kaiserdrago9598
@kaiserdrago9598 5 ай бұрын
I greatly enjoyed this video considering my love for different cultures and mythology
@kimpizzolato2050
@kimpizzolato2050 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for using the hades (the game) god models 1:19
@ImTMZ
@ImTMZ 11 ай бұрын
Considering the things they "DID" get right, it's clear someone did their research. I can imagine that same someone in the writer's room just ripping their hair out when someone said, "let's put pegasus in there"
@jacquelineking5783
@jacquelineking5783 7 ай бұрын
Hell watch the TV series. It is chock full of references and such ofmythology and history. Hell at one point they even used the name of an actual article of ancient Greek clothing. I honestly had never heard of the name of until the same year I rewatched the series a year or so after D+ became a thing.
@robbiewalker2831
@robbiewalker2831 4 ай бұрын
@@jacquelineking5783 the only problem with the TV Series is that it’s not canon to the movies, due to Hades in the movie not knowing Hercules is still alive, but Hades in the TV series did.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 4 ай бұрын
@@robbiewalker2831 The TV version of events makes more sense anyways since if Hades is the archenemy of Hercules, then Hades would DEFINITELY be keeping tabs enough to know that Hercules survived.
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 3 ай бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956. I heard a lot of people say, the Underworld is big, and hades is so busy that he has to delegate that work. Did he in the myths?
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 3 ай бұрын
@@erikbihari3625 As far as I'm aware, it's just confirmed to be Thanatos bringing the dead, Cerberus guarding the entrance, and Charon manning the ferry.
@DrOmni
@DrOmni 2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of weird how a movie about Hercules and Greek mythology is basically twisted into a wafer thin analogy for Christianity, right down to the gospel church choirs.
@uhohmykokoro1616
@uhohmykokoro1616 2 жыл бұрын
The Muses are the best part of the movie though 😂
@legoking6165
@legoking6165 2 жыл бұрын
I see it as more of a reskinned Superman movie.
@Belkak021
@Belkak021 2 жыл бұрын
When Hercules saved Megara and was all shiny all I was thinking was "that's oddly jesus like"
@mutantmunstercheese1
@mutantmunstercheese1 2 жыл бұрын
YEAH SERIOUSLY
@jadenbryant9283
@jadenbryant9283 2 жыл бұрын
@@legoking6165 agreed
@he1heim.
@he1heim. 2 ай бұрын
Love how you used art from the game 'hades', I loved that game :). Great video!
@seanjordan2147
@seanjordan2147 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the information. Ron Clements and John Musker are amazing directors.
@LadySingingWolf
@LadySingingWolf 2 жыл бұрын
On the delivery of Cerberus, wasn't it a demand of Hades that Cerberus NOT be harmed during Heracles' attempt to tame him and that was the only way Hades would let him take him out of the underworld? How can you even think about depicting Hades as the bad guy when his one demand is to NOT hurt his doggo?!
@mariustan9275
@mariustan9275 2 жыл бұрын
and not take his wife.
@albbb96
@albbb96 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariustan9275 considering what Greek gods and demigods were doing that is actually the most needed demand.
@eshaalzoreed
@eshaalzoreed 2 жыл бұрын
And there is evidence that Cerberus in Greek means spotted so the guy named his dog spot
@jimmyselsmark7346
@jimmyselsmark7346 2 жыл бұрын
Hades = John Wick ;)
@justinalicea1590
@justinalicea1590 2 жыл бұрын
From Overly Sarcastic Production's video, Hades didn't exactly state that Heracles couldn't harm Cerberus but he does say that Heracles has to capture Cerberus without using weapons, which is just fine by him. And apparently Heracles shoots Hades afterwards with no recorded reason for it, so that's a missing piece of the story.
@TheCyberSatyr
@TheCyberSatyr 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe with the Disney Hercules is how they did Hades dirty. Though, they did sorta fuck up Heracles entire legacy... but the Hades thing is what bothers me the most.
@lucienfortner841
@lucienfortner841 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! Other gods were out running amok, and Hades just wanted to go home to his wife and dog. He shouldn't ever have been portrayed as some kind of Pagan devil figure.
@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery
@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery 2 жыл бұрын
While portrayed as a villain in the movie, he somehow was still the most loveable character, so they got that right at least lol
@meemp.2826
@meemp.2826 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about it but I think it's really cool to see mythology that has this concept of a dark mysterious underworld but doesn't actually demonize the god of it. It's really a very different take on concepts like death and the unknown than we're used to in modern life and I think it would've been great to introduce that new perspective to people properly
@Arcessitor
@Arcessitor 2 жыл бұрын
@@meemp.2826 That's true for most mythologies, tho.
@michaelsterling8065
@michaelsterling8065 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucienfortner841 they really messed this movie up. I think Percy Jackson is even more accurate than this poop.
@IcecreamCat23
@IcecreamCat23 2 ай бұрын
The Satyr’s (can’t remember his name) reaction to Heracles’ father being Zeus I KNOW is disbelief that Zeus has a son. But I always laugh because I’m imagining he’s laughing at the fact Zeus would ever be a present father 😂
@stryper42
@stryper42 3 ай бұрын
Having just recently discovered your channel, I've watched, and been very entertained, by your videos, so thanks for that :) My only nitpick would be, the very “Jarring” lack of any sort of ENDING, to ANY of the videos I've since seen (they just seem to end, hard stop, almost like there's a part 2 that should continue it on with, but without the part 2 being available - kinda like a sudden stop at the end of a rollercoaster ride, causing you to almost get whiplash and/or fall out of your seat :) As for the movie Hercules, sure it has inaccuracies (I mean, name one historical or mythological story that doesn't) but I still consider it one of Disney's unsung classics (which also would include, Home On The Range, The Emperor's New Grove, as well as Treasure Planet and Atlantis: The Lost Kingdom). I mean, come on, James Woods TOTALLY STEALS every scene he's in, not to mention, Pain and Panic being two of the stupid/funniest henchmen, in any Disney animated film - other than Kronk, that is :) Anywho, keep up the great work >^..^
@entirelybonkers1916
@entirelybonkers1916 2 жыл бұрын
Technically, Hera didn't drive him insane. Hera went to the Goddess Lyssa, the Goddess of insanity and rabies and forced her to do it. Lyssa actually didn't want to but Hera made her.
@elliehindman7842
@elliehindman7842 2 жыл бұрын
Hera was still the reason he went insane though….
@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183
@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183 2 жыл бұрын
ᏯᎻᎬᏁ ᎽᎾᏬ ᎠᎾᏁ'Ꮏ ᎿᎻᎨᏁᏦ ᏰᎬᎰᎾᏒᎬ ᎽᎾᏬ ᎿᎯᏝᏦ
@RowBlanka
@RowBlanka 2 жыл бұрын
@EntirelyBonkers you make it sound like its even more accurate.
@entirelybonkers1916
@entirelybonkers1916 2 жыл бұрын
@@RowBlanka No, at least that isn't my intention, I just like people to know that part of the story. My first name is Lyssa and so when I was young, I had to do a project for my name, seeing the meaning behind it and such. I learned about the Goddess and now I like to bring it up when someone says Hera drove Herakles mad because most of the time, people don't know about Lyssa.
@entirelybonkers1916
@entirelybonkers1916 2 жыл бұрын
@@elliehindman7842 Yeah, you're right, I just like to bring up Lyssa so people can learn about her. I think she is cool.
@jasonalbran376
@jasonalbran376 2 жыл бұрын
"Then Along Came Zeus" was probably the only mythological accuracy in the movie
@V4mpDxwn
@V4mpDxwn 2 жыл бұрын
And the "No means yes and get lost means take me, im yours."
@thecommentguy9380
@thecommentguy9380 2 жыл бұрын
@@V4mpDxwn Zeus didn't learn social cues, he just rammed
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
Heracles' general abilities and scope of power seemed accurate as well although I'd be curious to see how the mythical Heracles could beat a cyclops without superpowers.
@V4mpDxwn
@V4mpDxwn 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecommentguy9380 oh no he knows, he just still proceeds to do so
@mahfoudseraf5995
@mahfoudseraf5995 2 жыл бұрын
@@V4mpDxwn you got 5 likes lol what a loser
@travisdelafuente1150
@travisdelafuente1150 17 күн бұрын
During the scene right after Hercules talked with Zeus saying he still needed to be a true hero, Phil does actually reference more of the 12 labours with the Augean Stables and the Girdle of Hippolyte- "At 1:00, you got a meeting with King Augeas. He's got a problem with his stables. I'd advise you not to wear your new sandals. At 3:00, you gotta get a girdle from some Amazons."
@DiegoRamirez-sv4pb
@DiegoRamirez-sv4pb 5 ай бұрын
An animated series about more Disney-fied versions of Greek stories with other gods like Cronos would be interesting
@ultimatebishoujo29
@ultimatebishoujo29 Күн бұрын
I’d love that
@DiegoRamirez-sv4pb
@DiegoRamirez-sv4pb Күн бұрын
@@ultimatebishoujo29 imagine how they would explain Cronos lol
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