every Toby Fox Song with the "Nightmare Knight" Leitmotif

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

All songs used can be found here kzbin.info/aero/PL0_zW2_l5tPwqxcnSqGtArPpFGb7NpWPs&si=GKBhenESC_Q966md Finally made an updated version including the lost girl tracks. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHfcpXmVnKh7aZosi=VgJ-QzK_7NKMTOTT Other Content kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHuViph6mdqksLssi=_21iWI2LSYOFMSIM

[@kevinm5940]

Where does it play in Knock You Down?

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

@kevinm5940 i don't remember, feel free to try to spot it if you want.

[@MKUunit]

Does this mean me and toby fox are friends ｡ﾟ(TヮT)ﾟ｡

[@IrvingIV]

Nightmare Knight is so Kirby, I love it.

[@massgunner4152]

It was made with Kirby's adventure soundfont i think.

[@TiMona42]

@@massgunner4152 It's kirby's dreamland 3.

[@martinmoraurena4155]

True

[@allhui5828]

WHAT THE HELL I ACTUALLY SOUNDS KIRBY LIKE

[@dashmaster698]

You guys might want to go listen to Kirby’s Dreamland 3 - Grassland 1. You might find something very interesting… EDIT: Also Mountain Stream and Ravine Road from Kirby 64 and Canvas Curse

[@braxbro6674]

Amalgam actually uses the BAaTH motif; in BAaTH, it's clearer and less creepy, fitting for Undyne the Undying's more defined form.

[@thundermarisol]

What's BAaTH?

[@Ra-ss5pn]

@@thundermarisol Battle Against a True Hero

[@thundermarisol]

@@Ra-ss5pn Thx!

[@braxbro6674]

@@thundermarisol Battle Against a True Hero

[@dylanzlol7293]

Amalgam also has an enemy approaching motif

[@fan_A_tical]

You know, because of this video I've realized that the biggest plot twist Toby can give regarding the titans is basically just making them sympathetic characters instead of destructive plot devices. Like could you imagine these towering behemoths turning out to be reluctant subjects that only destroy the world because they were told so? Or because they think that they have no other path to go in their lives. Crazy innit.

[@lurkathon]

They can't choose who they are in this world.

[@minestar2247]

Basically, taking the idea of the Nightmare Knight himself to make the titans? That does sound pretty interesting

[@minestar2247]

@@lurkathon no one can, not even the player

[@GardenGD]

I am super lost, are the titans something that hasn't come up in the released chapters of deltarune or what are we talking about here?

[@amphibian1658]

@@GardenGD part of the legend told by ralsey

[@RF-Ataraxia]

Even when it's put side to side like this, I just can't not associate this theme with Kirby 64. Not just the soundfont, but the entire composition, and it even has half of the Mountain Stream sprinkled in there too! It overrides the Undertale association SO hard

[@Th3DankestMemer]

yeah, same here, nightmare knight just feels 100% like a kirby song

[@multigrandmarquis]

not much of an undertale association to begin with

[@RF-Ataraxia]

@@multigrandmarquis True, true

[@LoiValdes]

Feel the same

[@fabiosonhandogrande1697]

The more every secret gets revealed and analyzed, The World Revolving gets less and less Jevil's. Whatever hypothetical theme he had was simple and short, like Rouxls'. But everything that got revealed to him piled on top of his interpretation of it all. So, it still fits his vibe, but it'll never be the same.

[@Steakdaily_]

When I heard 0:54 I felt my neurons activating because I feel like I heard that like 1 trillion times but never noticed it

[@minestar2247]

Yeah, that's because it's in deltarune chp 1

[@almessasorrow4950]

That specific melody is the legend soundtrack from deltarune sped up and out of tune.​@@minestar2247

[@WhatIsMyPorpoise]

yeah, i had listened to nightmare knights track before deltarune so when i heard many of these tracks there was a familiar element that kept bugging at me. It's cool to see where it originates from

[@TheSkyGuy77]

bits of Hopes and Dreams has some of Nightmare Knight in it

[@PunkPirate-kr8cj]

Neat

[@gabriellopezcollantes1027]

"You know what this is"... N o I d o n ' t

[@IrvingIV]

Shoutout to Andrew Cunningham finding Gaster's Theme in The World Revolving, like, everywhere.

[@minestar2247]

At least he reduced the places where you find them, he filtered everything

[@uraynuke]

this video's gonna be a relic in 5 year's time

[@sillywillywillysilly]

you could literally comment this under any youtube video

[@uraynuke]

@@sillywillywillysilly specifically talking about when we know who the Knight is and why these leitmotifs are here or if some were just hallucinated - I thought that was obvious but ya know!

[@AcchyDacchy]

bold of you to assume it'll only be 5 years

[@ThunderCube3888]

And I can't wait

[@KyrieFortune]

"you know what this is" no, toby, i don't know what this is, what are you talking about you strange little dog

[@SamCrafter_]

Yeah wtf is that song

[@fabiosonhandogrande1697]

papyrus

[@mustardmustache2107]

I wonder how many people here know that the Nightmare Knight is a character from the amazing (yet currently on hiatus) webcomic “Cucumber Quest”?

[@massgunner4152]

Hiatus? The webcomic is dead, the only thing left is reading the books

[@professoryeetus8955]

i do, but i know nothing about it

[@EKTE64]

Winter 2014 ahh webcomic

[@GearoxButaBox]

My biggest flex as a Cucumber Quest fan is having "Toby Fox made fan-made songs and some of their melody is reused for his own games" as common knowledge. I hope to hear Nightmare Knight in the KNIGHT's theme when it inevitably is the final boss! If you're reading this, you should read Cucumber Quest. It's really good.

[@Finx070]

Cucumber quest fans can mourn here

[@nova-witchwood]

😢 Well… At least I don’t have to see Carrot again! iirc I didn’t like him that much :/ (sorry y’all)

[@eggnogisdead]

nono the webcomic will be off hiatus soon right? right? RIGHT??

[@SamCrafter_]

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[@pelpel788]

@@eggnogisdead you’re probably gonna have to wait until the author finishes their VN for that one lmao

[@wolfythereject]

@@pelpel788 VN?

[@Tails_The_Fox92]

Nightmare Knight was almost definitely made in mind for Deltarune to some degree. This might be some insight onto what earlier versions of Deltarune looked like in Toby's mind.

[@KingsBard]

Imagine he pulls a Megalovania and the Roaring Knight uses an updated version

[@LycanMOON]

@@KingsBardif that doesn’t end up happening,I’ll be extremely disappointed

[@bw000m]

its a fansong for the webcomic cucumber quest, though...? its named after the central antagonist. the art used is from the webcomic

[@Tails_The_Fox92]

@@bw000m I said in mind, not for.

[@bw000m]

@@Tails_The_Fox92 yes but why would a fanwork be created with an original project in mind?

[@ratmonarch_]

amalgam has the nightmare night motif because they are living nightmares

[@Barakon]

I wonder if the Knight of Deltarune is gonna have a remixed version of Nightmare Knight as their theme.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

I would be more shocked if it doesn't

[@porygon4023]

Evidence for Papyrus being the Knight: 1. He's one of Toby Fox's favorite characters, but is still largely a joke character in Undertale. It's possible his appearance in Deltarune would be more serious 2. On Deltarune's Steam page, it mysteriously says "Huh? Papyrus? No, he's busy." 3. The "trousling of bones" heard when you inspect the door on his house becomes more distant between chapter 1 and 2 4. In Undertale, Papyrus jumps over you in an L-shape, like an actual Knight in chess. The distances from his house to the locations of the first two dark fountains are also in an L-shape, though trees are obviously in the way 5. Papyrus has motivation for being the Knight in Deltarune, since he is lonely and wants friends and praise 6. In Undertale, he wants to be a Royal Guard, which is a similar position to a Knight; Gerson was also a former Royal Guard member and has ties to the Knight 7. Papyrus and Sans' relationship with Gaster is mysterious. Sans has likely known Gaster since he is a scientist and possesses time travel powers, but Papyrus possesses none of this knowledge. Since Gaster is implied to be in Deltarune, the reason why could be elaborated on (perhaps Gaster is manipulating Papyrus into being the Knight) 8. It is mentioned that any Lightner can become a Knight if they have enough determination, so Papyrus is certainly not exempt to this rule 9. Papyrus' Special Attack is interrupted by the Annoying Dog, which as we all know is Toby Fox's own avatar. This could be his way of preventing any spoilers about Papyrus' true power. We should remember that while Undertale was released first, Deltarune has been in development for longer and is going to be greater in scale than Undertale, so it's likely Toby had already planned what Papyrus was going to be 10. Seam's quote about how a "strange knight" appeared one day mirrors the Snowdin shopkeeper's about how Sans and Papyrus showed up one day and asserted themselves. Also, the "strange knight" text is highlighted in red and white 11. 6:38 There is probably more, but this was all I could think of for now.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Never heard it the L jump before, nice touch. I actually found concrete proof of papyrus being (a) knight in an old tweet but im gate keeping thid knowlage for a future video (we do a little trolling)

[@porygon4023]

@@TheRealSuperKirby It happens after you spare him in Undertale. I also updated the original comment with a few extra things, like how the annoying dog stops Papyrus from using his special attack, possibly hiding his true power

[@CrownedDoomer]

​@@TheRealSuperKirby I remember hearing someone talk about seeing something like that. I heard it was a drawing of Papyrus in front of a dark fountain.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

@CrownedDoomer nope, If that exists I'd love to see it. You might be referring to the image in the spectrogram of mus_smile (the entry 17 sound) which looks like a skeletal figure on a horse in front of a dark fountain.

[@CrownedDoomer]

@@TheRealSuperKirby It could be that, but I'm not the person who claims to have saw that. I saw someone tweet about seeing this under a knight papyrus theory on twitter a few weeks ago.

[@witids]

0:00 Nightmare Knight 2:18 Amalgam 3:06 The Door 3:50 The Chase 4:25 THE WORLD REVOLVING 4:52 Fountain (Scrapped) 5:47 The Dark Truth 6:37 you know what this is 6:53 Friendship (Toby Fox website)

[@Peepimus]

There’s something always satisfying from watching these type of videos.

[@Peepimus]

“❤” (13 minutes ago)

[@TheGamerninja15]

I still think that Nightmare Knight will be the boss theme of the Roaring Knight, *CHANGE MY MIND*

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

Duh, pretty obvious

[@theladiescallmesona]

The Dark Truth actually uses a modified Your Best Nightmare.

[@lytmeowtif]

a note re: friendship: I don't think it's any evidence of Asriel's connection to the knight at all - rather, an insight into Toby Fox's writing process and what the nightmare knight motif might ACTUALLY mean. Friendship was, like Nightmare Knight, composed as a Cucumber Quest fansong. I think, potentially, in its original form it represents the bond between the Nightmare Knight and Princess Parfait, the first real friend he had in centuries. This means, then, that Nightmare Knight is a tragic reprise of that friendship and the inevitability of fighting him despite his desire to Stop. I mean, isn't that what it sounds like? The rest of the song is a tense battle theme, but motif C SOUNDS tragic to me. It's not the Big Scary Nightmare Knight Theme, it's We Pity The Nightmare Knight For His Humanity. What does this mean when we apply motif C to Deltarune, considering it always seems to pop up in vaguely sinister Dark World scenarios? Well, consider: The Door is the precipice of the adventure, and it's terrifying at first but by the second time it happens you and Susie embrace it. You're scared at first, but really the Dark World is fantasy, adventure, that friendship. The Chase is the keystone of my interpretation: It seems terrifying at first! You're in a horrid void and something chases you! But... replay the game and it becomes obvious that something is Lancer. Lancer isn't scary at all, and he is Susie's closest Darkner buddy. The second time it plays... the Rudinn Rangers are locking you up On Lancer's Orders because he wants to protect you. So once again we have a song that seems intimidating but is connected to a character who wants friendship. The World Revolving throws a wrench in this idea - it pins a direct connection between the motif and The Knight. But... that part of the song doesn't connect to the next secret boss at all BIG SHOT connects to THE WORLD REVOLVING through the latter's main melody, not its intro. So... what if the motif doesn't involve the Knight at all? Seam and Jevil were close friends after all. It's their defining relationship. So while motif C MIGHT indicate a connection to the Knight, I think we shouldn't dismiss the original thematic weight of the Cucumber Quest incarnations of the motif.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Really good analysis! Didn't know friendship was also made for Cucumber quest

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

Possible PapyrusKnight/KrisKnight evidence, aka charecters who as The Knight probably wouldn't have malicious intent

[@undertraveler]

The instrument in "you know what this is" is called cuíca

[@Nico_com_c]

-Brazil mentioned- *Brazil (lightly) implied* _The actual story of the intrument goes a little deeper, with it being brought to Brazil from Africa during the colonial period. But I couldn't find sources on the specific location_

[@name123-jq1bf]

It's the microsoft GS Wavetable Synth cuica from the standard drum kit.

[@enderborn017]

I always thought Amalgam used a heavily spookified version of Enemy Approaching, which would make sense since it's a heavily spookified monster battle. So that would mean Enemy Approaching might have some Nightmare Night DNA?

[@rendumguy7596]

The soundfont shared with Papyrus is just a cuica sound. It's in games like N64 games and is usually for tropical or silly songs, so I don't think it hints that Papyrus is the Knight, because it's so common.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Its not common in Toby's music though. Would help if we knew the context to the song

[@xdarin_]

1:33 "Hold on, am I sure this isn't a Kirby song?"

[@orggannick]

the sound that plays before starting a battle sounds extremely similar to the first 2 notes of Nightmare Knight - might even be a direct sample

[@theguitarassassin6639]

i swore i knew everything about this game but it keeps going deeper my mind has exploded

[@JustJDude]

I can't be the only one who thinks this song belongs in a Kirby game

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Yes! it actually uses the sound font used in dreamland 3 and super star

[@WhiteCresentKnight]

I love that Nightmare Knight uses the Kirby sound font

[@zorubark]

0:05 Nightmare Knight(A) 2:17 Amalgam (A) 5:48 The Dark Truth (A) 0:41 Nightmare Knight(B) 4:52 Fountain (scrapped) (B) 5:01 Fountain (scrapped) (BC) 5:37 Fountain (scrapped) (B) 2 0:53 Nightmare Knight (C) 1:35 Nightmare Knight (C) 2 3:20 The Door(C) 4:02 The Chase(C) 4:28 THE WORLD REVOLVING (C) 4:39 THE WORLD REVOLVING (C) 2 5:01 Fountain (scrapped) (BC) 6:38 you know what that is (C) 6:54 Friendship (toby fox website) (C)

[@DS-pq9cg]

Knightmare Knight being in Amalgan raises some serious redflags considering theres a monster you can interact with using the telephone and it shares some similiaritys with gaster

[@evilness3404]

The memoryheads are so bizarre and I don't think we'll ever get an explanation for them unfortunately. I don't think they're tied to Gaster however. They don't have a connection to any other monster like the rest of the amalgamates do. They're seemingly based on your overworld menu rather than on ACTs like other amalgamates. We do know that according to the credits they go back to their families, but like what family????

[@RmationYT]

The world revolving motif is called the freedom motif So I’d like to call this the darkness motif

[@sheogorath6834]

The part of the song with the Nightmare Knight motif is not the freedom motif.

[@RmationYT]

@@sheogorath6834 I’m not saying the freedom leitmotif is in nightmare knight. I’m trying to say that we should give this leitmotif a name that’s not the song name because of its significance and ties with dark songs.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

The Nightmare Knight image looks like the souls from Undertale being in the Knight's hand.

[@TheTrueXaver]

amalgam made zero sense until it just played immediately after nightmare night, to which I immediately learned something new

[@AstralBirthVoid02]

I can't believe Nightmare knight use so prominously the leitmotif of Nightmare knight.

[@VagueHandWaving]

First one sounds like "Ah! Real Monsters" as well

[@ASHE_ATTACC]

Unironically this sorta makes me believe that the Nightmare Knight is the Knight of deltarune

[@alonsoinfantesarce1445]

Motif "c" sounds like it's heavily based on the main motif of "grassland 1" from kirby's dreamland 3, which must be one of the reasons it sounds like an ost freom that game (also the usage of that game's soundfont).

[@jackofroge]

Realizing Nightmare Night has a heavily altered version of the first movement for The Legend.... Am I stinky dumb stupid or am I really smart for that? Hell if I know lol

[@mr.lifebrain1891]

I love how this song is kind of just an epic version of the grassland 1 theme from Kirby's Dreamland 3

[@gabrielnavia-d3m]

0:40 the start of the star drops

[@kirby47897]

6:59 Actually the composition of this song closer resembles that of “Good Night”, the final song in Undertale’s soundtrack

[@cheemsburger6567]

I feel that "The Dark Truth" sounds like it uses the "Your Best Nightmare" leitmotif more than it does "Nightmare Knight".

[@dovestrider]

probably gonna pull a megalovania where he made a song for a webseries then used an updated version of the song in his game

[@NGx50]

i wonder what they sound like with all of the nightmare motifs put together

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Chaos

[@ThunderCube3888]

Chaos? Jevil reference. Jevil? The world revolving. The world revolving? Nightmare Knight motif. Therefore, we can conclude that the Knight is involved

[@mishablinsky1655]

Haven't heard about Knight-related motif before, but "Nightmare Knight" track sounds dope.

[@papelito1020]

I personally connect the idea of Papyrus being the knight with the theory that sans comes from deltarune, but the papyrus from there died, and the only one left is the undertale one. I think that papyrus could be the knight, and if it is, im 100% sure that he will sacrifice himself to that the deltawarriours can escape. I think that is why sans wants to fix the machine so much, because if he could he would go back in time and space and save papyrus. Maybe even, redacted could be the deltarune papyrus. I JUST REALIZED, THIS COULD EXPLAIN THE LEITMOTIF BEING PRESENT IN AMALGAMS, BECAUSE PAPYRUS ENDS LIKE ONE, IN THE FORM OF REDACTED

[@dylanzlol7293]

Since the start of amalgam is an enemy approaching motif, does that mean that enemy approaching has a nightmare knight motif?

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

All of Toby's leitmotifs are notorious for lining up with eachother even when they are different.

[@MrXemrox]

I've searched "deltarune knock you down" on KZbin and gotten plenty results.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

That's not what I meant, I mean listen through the song to hear if you can find the nightmare Knight leitmotif, because I remember finding it at one point, but re-listening years later I couldn't find it.

[@derpysponge43]

Should it be considered heavy foreshadowing that Friendship is used in UNDERTALE Red and that the dev behind it now works for deltarune??? now I really know what that is...

[@BananaJuice-ue6pi]

All of the "C" section parts listed! (Aka the main NK melody) NK - 0:53 NK iteration2 - 1:35 The Door - 3:20 The Chase - 4:01 TWR - 4:28 ykwti - 6:37 Friendship - 6:53 (This is the closest to the og, being an almost direct quote musically btw)

[@dragoknight489]

the later part of friendship that's listed as 'B' actually sounds much closer to the part of nightmare knight that's listed as 'AB'. especially since that's the part that comes after the 'C' melody in both songs, i think that's the part that's being referenced there

[@2011supergamer]

So how does all this tie into Kirby's Dreamland 3

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Meta knight is missing from the dark matter trilogy because he was busy opening dark fountains in deltarune

[@AstralBirthVoid02]

The knight is 0³.

[@jutpaanimations7458]

Personal ratings: Amalgam: 5/10 for fittingness (Everyman Knight + potential Gaster-Knight connection isn't too significant and is vastly overshadowed by other Knight and Gaster theories), 1/10 for soundingness (doesn't even sound like motif A) The Door: 10/10 for fittingness (the Knight is creating the Dark Fountains), 10/10 for soundingness (that is literally just the Chase which is motif C) The Chase: 8/10 for fittingness (currently indirectly related to the Knight, I would not be surprised if this theme re-emerged for the actual Knight encounter), 10/10 for soundingness (yeah that's the Nightmare Knight theme alright) THE WORLD REVOLVING: 6/10 for fittingness (Jevil is more closely related to Gaster but does seem to have knowledge of the Knight), 7/10 for soundingness (sounds about right to me) Scrapped Fountain Theme That Toby Fox Plans To Use Later: 8/10 for fittingness (the Knight is creating the Dark Fountains), 3/10 for soundingness (seems more original) The Dark Truth: 8/10 for fittingness (Roaring), 0/10 for soundingness (That's You Idiot from Undertale, also known as the first part of Your Best Nightmare from Undertale, also known as Burn In Despair from Undertale, also known as Imminent Death from Deltarune, also known as major leitmotif in Vs. Susie, also known as what appears to be a general leitmotif) you know what this is: ??/?? for fittingness (????), 10/10 for soundingness (yep that's motif C) Friendship (website): ??/?? for fittingness (will probably be used in Deltarune), 10/10 for soundingness (yep that's the Nightmare Knight theme alright)

[@waterisbased]

I find it very interesting how Amalgam is one of them.

[@ninjabros6282]

I just had a Thought imagine Nightmare Knight is basically one of the Titans like not exactly but their Shape Size as well as look would be .... similar hmm? 🤔

[@Typi]

Something kinda fun I noticed is that Nightmare Knight and Lost Girl actually fit together surprisingly well.(specifically the beginning part of Lost Girl) Edit: Now that I think about it, the openings of each are just eachother but upsidedown... if that makes sense

[@mrblakeboy1420]

here me out: memoryhead is the knight how: they can get in by seeping under the door _how:_ it’s been proven they have determination why: it’s known that the amalgamates are suffering, maybe they don’t in the dark world? _why:_ it would be cinematic if the knight started exploiting the memories made along your journey, maybe disabling party members, maybe using them as attacks, maybe something else *what*: toby fox once mentioned the ending of deltarune was based on a fever dream

[@raptornormal2297]

🤯 AMIGO ESTO SI QUE ME REVENTÓ LA CABEZA! de hecho si subes la velocidad a la canción "The Door" es literal lo mismo

[@monocasualzari]

Kris plays piano, 'friendship' used a piano instrument I believe. Kris is Asriel's sibling, so perhaps the similarities lay there. If kris knight is true, perhaps 'friendship' is the song used when the conflict in the story with kris is resolved peacefully

[@jorgitus9939]

That wouldn't be a...? "KNIGHTMARE" ☝☝🤓🤓🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@RHVGamer]

Someone pointed out recently that the A melody of Lost Girl is also extremely similar to the C melody of Nightmare Knight. (I would link to a comparison but KZbin hides comments with links.)

[@SpamDustt411]

I don't want to tie UTDR projects and stuff to Toby's other projects he has worked on at all, but, honestly, I'd like to see how much inspiration Toby had throughout the time in DR, Like, stuff from the Mother Series, Brandish, OFF, Yume Nikki, Cucumber Quest, Homestuck, etc. Hopefully we'll get to see if the Knight in DR is inspired by the Nightmare Knight, in some or much aspects.

[@SpamDustt411]

Forget it, i love to tie everything i mentioned here to Deltarune. Roaring Knightmare real hopefully 🔥

[@smnio5619]

Nightmare motif C in Friendship sounds a lot like Girl Next Door

[@TheRealKF6]

Don't forget about Lost Girl, which might either use the motif or just use similar notes and whatnot.

[@ultrawinggaming9764]

interesting that the part of THE WORLD REVOLVING that has the Nightmare Knight motif is a different part of the song that has Gaster's Motif. Seems to imply that the Knight isn't Gaster. Very very interesting indeed.

[@user-xy5yg6se1k]

nightmare knight's name and theme sound like a kirby villian and its theme respectively

[@cotlim]

Hmm, i think i can hear section A in Your Best Nightmare(except it uses 3 notes instead of 4)

[@aww.funvids7589]

Wait, did I just hear Gaster’s theme in one of the motifs? Did I?

[@Yanis-choco]

I think the beginning of "Dark truth" Reference "You idiot" Because Ralsei tell Berdly and Queen they're an idiot.

[@stoplookingatthisyougleepy]

the freedom motif is just edited penumbra phantasm

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

It's Gaster's Them actually

[@monotonekai1502]

Pretty sure Finale also has the C leitmotif as well and this song influenced ASGORE

[@Th3DankestMemer]

6:38 actually i don't know what this is, why is it called that-

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Same, and since it's from I believe a deleted website, no one ever will

[@Th3DankestMemer]

@@TheRealSuperKirby oof, that's unfortunate..

[@robertomartinsvalero6097]

Nightmare Knight sounds so kirby

[@Dergenheinkel]

Personally i think the beginning part of amalgam is a kinda broken version of the beginning of battle against a true hero n the power of neo. Which could still use the nightmare knight motif

[@TheSkyGuy77]

I think Father Alvin is either the Knight or knighted whoever is the Knight.

[@contextsensitive8484]

someone get Andrew on this

[@lanciilatte2372]

fr

[@playcenter6272]

You forgot Lost Girl and Girl Next Door

[@kerbehklobbah5790]

Here's my take on the validity of each of these claims. Amalgam: Idk, I think its probably random coincidence, it doesn't sound nearly similar enough to be intentional. The Door/The Chase: Yep, this one is basically indisputably using Nightmare Knight's motif, it quotes the respective section of his theme basically unchanged. This in my opinion is fairly solid proof that The Knight created the Castle Town fountain, since this theme plays before you enter it, though to be fair that was already pretty easy to infer even if never directly stated. The World Revolving: I think this one is also random coincidence, I just don't hear his motif at all. The Dark Truth: Its a little hard to discern but I can definitely hear the similar "do do do, do" structure as the opening of Nightmare Knight. Then again, this could also just be quoting the "Terror" motif as I like to call it, which is also used in "Your Best Nightmare", "Burn in Despair!", and the song that plays before you fight Susie. No, I dont know what this next one is, but it and Friendship are pretty undeniably using the Nightmare Knight motif. Though, I'd hold off on saying Asriel is the Knight, since that seems very unlikely considering he was already the villain of the last game. Though I do personally believe in the theory that Papyrus is The Knight, because of unrelated evidence.

[@confettious]

"you know what this is" Queen's talking sfx??

[@basicaIIymyseIf]

it's a cuica

[@jens_le_benz]

1:46 another lost girl reference?

[@Envy_May]

knightmare

[@a.t.9197]

It's also at the end of Lost Girl

[@breen-posting]

HOLY WHY DOES NIGHTMARE KNIGHT B SOUND LIKE THE LEGEND???

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Which part of the legend?

[@breen-posting]

@@TheRealSuperKirby The main beginning part. Nightmare Knight B just sounds like it sped up

[@Yanis-choco]

0:53 I'm the only one to hear "lost girl" At this part ?

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

@Yanis-choco far from it, I made an updated one with all the lost girl songs kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHfcpXmVnKh7aZosi=R7FGkumaH5wTs4z4

[@allhui5828]

THE KNIGHT HAS A THEME????

[@emilmontes23003]

Nightmare knight? Whaaaa what's that theme???

[@DietermiGamzD125]

Made for the webcomic Cucumber Quest, I think

[@IrvingIV]

0:54 3:21 4:01

[@gamelover1118]

7:45 Do the hustle

[@TheSkyGuy77]

Hmm, why would Asriel be the knight? Wasn't he already the bad guy in Undertale?

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

as long as it's a different enough and interesting enough story, I'm fine with toby retreading old ground.

[@undertraveler]

*Flowey was the bad guy in Undertale, he has a distinctly different character from Asriel, who will also have a distinctly different personality from grown-up Asriel in Deltarune.

[@InvaderZim897]

@@undertraveler Flowey and Asriel may differ but both personas belong to the same individual; and you're still fighting Asriel as the final boss in the pacifist run anyway.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

​@@undertraveler Still the same person, in different circumstances.

[@TheGamerninja15]

Hey, Surreal made a remastered version of the Nightmare Knight theme and it sounds better than the original in my opinion

[@Slenderquil]

Someone made timestamps in the comments here. I'm pretty sure they'll show up on the video if you copy them into the video description.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Done

[@CaptainHatecrime]

Doesn’t the Lost Girl leitmotif literally share the first 7 notes of section C as well? And then kinda shares the rest of it, just with slightly different notes or something? Or am I crazy

[@Idazmi7]

Compare to Lost Girl now. 😉

[@FrontierJustice6000]

Mate it's just a song Toby made for a webcomic ages ago, there's no significance to the story and the motifs here are only vaguely similar (Amalgam and The Dark Truth are especially huge stretches), the last two songs have nothing to do with UT/DR either And before anyone points out Noisemaster's Theme/Metal Crusher, there's no UT significance there either it's literally just an old song he decided to repurpose

[@cloper_coldmail]

Bro thats so similar to Noelle motif

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

@cloper_coldmail yeah I made a updated version with the Noelle songs kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHfcpXmVnKh7aZosi=htvVcEBX6a9qDfX2

[@lukematzner7996]

I don’t know about this. ‘You know what this is’ and ‘Friendship’ definitely have the motif unquestionably, but neither are used in game and aren’t in anything official. Friendship was completely replaced in game by another Friendship song that has the motif of deltarune main theme and I think Gaster (maybe). So I don’t think these songs are cannon to deltarune and should be used in theory crafting. As for ‘The Door’, ‘the chase’, and TWR, we need Andrew Cunningham on this. They sound similar to the beginning of C motif of NK. Not sure though as each one differs, and the similar parts don’t last for very long. As for Amalgamate, The Fountain, and The Dark Truth, I completely disagree. Amalgamate has a different note pattern to the A motif. A motif consists of four notes with the second note being higher than the first, the third note being lower than the first, and the fourth higher than all of them with an echo. Amalgamate is a six note pattern that is split into two pairs of notes (with the first on lower than the next) that go in a descending order. I think that the change between the first four notes going up, down, up does sorta make the two themes sound almost similar, but the broader context around those notes separate them as distinct themes. I think it’s a coincidence basically. I think Toby could have put in a much stronger melodic connection there than three/four notes between the two themes if it was suppose to be an intentional reference. As for ‘The Dark Truth’ and ‘The fountain’ I have no idea what you are connecting between those with the three motifs defined. Like TDT and motif A, TDT has a descending three note patterns, which is nothing like motif A which goes up down up. With motifs that simple, the differences stand out like a sore thumb. The same goes for The Fountain and motif B and C. The melodic parts of the Fountain’s that you compare it to NK really don’t sound anything like each other. The way the notes progress in each part are just completely different.

[@Orangejuicecd]

you forgot like all of the lost girl songs btw