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@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
It seems like gas isn't as expensive as I thought on roadtrips! Elon needs to lower supercharging costs!
@electriccarsworldnews1602 Жыл бұрын
Please provide the length of the trip 500 miles both ways ?
@joshuab1707 Жыл бұрын
I think he's priced competitively when compared to EA stations at times. However the idea behind any EV really is not the roadtrip aspect, but the regular daily commute aspect. The idea of a "full tank of gas" every morning is very appealing to many people. Especially if you're strategic about when and how much you charge at home.
@MrPcphn1 Жыл бұрын
Move away from California I heard you guys are paying ẩm and legs for natural gas and frequent power outages?
@alex-650 Жыл бұрын
Some Supercharges are cheaper off-peak times, so you can save money by leaving, say at 10PM.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Or super early which is what we do!
@Kareem-cx4fi Жыл бұрын
That's why I own both. Family uses the model 3 as our daily driver and it gets the most use. We also have a gas powered midsized SUV for road trips and utility duty for moving large loads of items or people or depending on the weather or situation. Ev infustructure and technology is not at the point where I can go all in. It's best served as a daily driver.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Allot of people are going that route
@jml9550 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I am thinking, currently we are shopping for a new Lexus NX Hybrid to replace my wife’s 08 RX350. In a couple of years I will gift my son my 17 Lexus ES, then I am seriously considering an Porsche Taycan for comments to work and ship trip within a 100 miles radius of where we live. On longer trip, we will can use the NX hybrid on longer trips.
@igormord8636 Жыл бұрын
same here. KIA SUV for 7 people and road trips, but most daily driving is in Tesla Model 3
@jeretso Жыл бұрын
I plan to own both too. MiniVan is my road trip King especially for 3rd row passengers. Small families can also fold that 3rd row flat and bring the kitchen sink haha. When I go on vacation and rent a car the Minivans are all gone. I doubt Musk will ever build a boring Minivan.
@Aggie4life778 ай бұрын
lol! This will be our setup as well! We will have an SUV for long road trips and for getting visiting family around. EV will be the daily driver.
@1ledp621 Жыл бұрын
A 2 week comparison of daily work & life routine would be dope to see the real savings of electric vs gas
@JT1652 Жыл бұрын
Not surprised at your results. I have taken an 800 mile road trip that takes 3 hours longer than a gas vehicle. Super charging costs have almost doubled since I bought my Tesla making the cost fairly close. Gas power beats electric for road trips.
@MH-wm6df Жыл бұрын
Why are you stopping for an hour every 200 miles? I am assuming you are starting the trip with 300 miles of range. I was charging my tesla in about 20 minutes for 200 miles of charge. I stopped for 45 minutes total for a 628 mile trip to Fayetteville North Carolina. Where are you stopping? Sounds like maybe you’re a troll
@josephayala232 Жыл бұрын
@M H I get much more miles than a Tesla with a Hybrid giving me 539 Miles full tank and battery fully charged, no need to stop for a 500 Mile trip, also less than $50 bucks and I get to my destination much earlier than a Tesla, because I don't need to charge as my battery recharges as I'm driving. 😎
@chavale2 Жыл бұрын
@@MH-wm6df Pl DO NOT Offend other Drivers You'll reap bad outcomes somewhere along the way :(
@robertmandl9326 Жыл бұрын
And as we all know the road trips are THE measuring factor for a car as most people do them almost daily. Oh wait....
@MH-wm6df Жыл бұрын
@@josephayala232 lol I had a Prius. No, thank you. Not even the same type of vehicle. I really wanted another BMW M3 but decided with the M3 performance Tesla, because it was better in every single way. If I wanted a Prius, I may start looking at Chevy bolt. you cant equate the two cars unfortunately. 95% of my charging is from solar anyway. Much more efficient than the Prius.
@YourTechGuide. Жыл бұрын
*definitely noticed its more expensive and longer to drive a tesla compare to our gas car. reason why i bought a tesla was to save on gas but I guess found it the hard way to actually do it in real life. Tesla is just meant for local trips and gas is for long drive. I guess the best combination to have is tesla and hybrid vehicle for everyday and long distance driving.*
@johnnyboi5661 Жыл бұрын
My sister owns a model X, and she says the same thing. On long trip, it better to just take a gas vehicle car, but on your everyday driving, where your only using up to 25%-30% a day, you can literally just charge it at home when your sleeping, and you’ll probably gain most of the percentages back by the next day already.
@XX-dq3kx Жыл бұрын
American consumersim at its best lol. Get a plug in prius! Stop buying big vehicles! Specially that dog sh1t hummer
@kng12811 ай бұрын
DC Fast Charging is the most expensive way to charge - it's like getting 20-25 mpg. Level 2 charging more economical way to charge if you're not in a rush. At home I get about 25 miles/$. I can level 2 charge for free at work.
@diznutz51109 ай бұрын
Lol this idea is NOT realistic for MOST people. As of now, I am just glad everyone starting to realize the whole electric cAr false hype is fslling right on its face. They are sitting at lots unable to be sold everywhere around the country. Batteries freezing on cold weather making them useless, lol...
@Roll_the_Bones4 ай бұрын
Can't see how buying & running 2x vehicles is genuinely cheaper? Just take the small hit on the occasional "road-trip". You'd have to be crazy to buy a second vehicle, just to save a few $ on occasional long drives.
@afzalshaikh2128 Жыл бұрын
Damn $12 difference. Great video and really puts in perspective how far EV cars have to go before there is mass adoption
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Supercharging needs to be cheaper for sure
@gabrielcastillo7947 Жыл бұрын
Not really a fair comparison though. The Model Y is a more powerful car than the RX. 0-60 is more than 6 seconds in the RX and only 4.2 in the Model Y.
@ebernier797 Жыл бұрын
From what I understand most charging is at home which is a fraction compared to supercharging. Yeah supercharging is expensive relatively, but you can’t beat the supercharging network. These prices have built this awesome network. CCS charging can’t hold a candle to Tesla.
@andreym95 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielcastillo7947 How is that relevant to a normal road trip?
@gabrielcastillo7947 Жыл бұрын
@@andreym95 Because the Model Y inherently uses more power than the car it was being compared to, so it's not entirely accurate to conclude that the cost to charge isn't that cheap based on the comparison. The cost savings would be greater if he'd compared the Model Y to taking a road trip in a comparably powerful car like an Audi RS Q3. The fact that the Model Y is still cheaper to drive than the car he compared it to says a lot actually.
@k4everut Жыл бұрын
From my math, it looks like the Tesla actually cost almost $20 more than the Lexus for this trip. I think your calculations way are off. On your only fill-up for the Lexus during the trip, you put 8.793 gallons of gas in the car at $5.20 per gallon, for a total of $45.71. You drove 143 miles prior to that fill-up. That means you average a paltry 143/8.793 = 16.263 MPG in the Lexus. When you arrived at your destination you had 132 miles left in the Lexus' tank, but only 43 miles left in the batteries for the Tesla. Which means that the Lexus had 89 miles worth of range more than the Tesla at your destination. It cost $37 to get the Tesla to that point. However, if you both arrived with exactly 43 miles of range left in each vehicle, you would need to subtract 89/16.263 = 5.4725 gallons of fuel from the Lexus. Which means that the Lexus actually cost 5.4725 x $5.20 = $28.457 less than what you calculated to get to the same destination with the same amount of range left. That means that the trip only cost $45.71 - 28.457 = $17.25 for the Lexus. So it actually cost $37 - 17.25 = $19.75 more to drive the Tesla on this trip! Also, there is no need to "warm up" a late model (within the last 10 years or so) gas car. You're just wasting gas letting it sit idle like that and actually causing damage to the engine. You can actually just start a late model gas car and drive it moderately for about 5-8 minutes to get it warm, which is usually how long it takes most of us to get to the highway. Once the car is warmed up, you can drive it at highway speed. It takes forever to warm a car at idle!
@boostedmaniac Жыл бұрын
So in reality you have 132 miles of range left on the Lexus which means you really saved less than $8 (assuming you charge the Tesla so it would have 132 miles of range left to match or pumped 2-3 gallons less gas). It also took about 1 hour longer in the Tesla. Thanks for doing the comparison.
@blurglideАй бұрын
Yeah- my time is worth WAY more than $8/hour. I don't think my new Model 3 will every see a supercharger unless there's some kind of emergency.
@alcaponed16 Жыл бұрын
I love the RX. Super comfortable, smooth, and the intelligent cruise is pretty impressive. Slap a comma ai device and you get basic levels of autopilot for about 2k.
@Rallo313 Жыл бұрын
Surprising to me that the benefit of an EV isn’t really as drastic as I would have thought for a road trip. Interesting to see the cost vs time benefit of a road trip too. Maybe more savings over the long term but not easily noticeable on a road trip. Great video!
@KP-hi1om Жыл бұрын
I think my biggest issue is that on road trips I only stop every 340 miles to use the restroom and fill up. I hate stopping. An EV wouldn't work for me because I have no patience on road trips.
@egaskrad Жыл бұрын
I think the beauty of an EV is in the city. In a road trip which you go over 80 mph, EV is worse.
@KP-hi1om Жыл бұрын
@@egaskrad I guess another issue would be not having a home charger. I live 30 miles outside the city. I'd blow 25% of the range getting to work (30 mile drive in cold weather in hilly conditions doing 80 on the highway).
@lawrence112 Жыл бұрын
Same. I would definitely keep a gas vehicle for long trips and an EV for daily driving, if I were to go EV.
@cherokee180c0 Жыл бұрын
Comparison was a joke. First of all he didn’t drive 500 miles @ 17 mpg for $45. That is $114. You can’t count the gas in the tank as free. Secondly, everyone leaves with a full charge, which at my house would be the first 250 miles for $9.00. Even if you use $0.43/kWh, the next 250 miles is only around $30, so the Tesla is approximately 34% the cost of the Lexus to drive 500 miles. What he also didn’t account for is that it is very easy at destinations to charge for 100% free at destination chargers at hotels or restaurants. My first 1000 miles on my model Y was a total of $23 due to all the free local destination chargers I was able to use on our trip to OC MD. Also If I had a level 2 charger installed, it would have been half that price, as BGE offers off Peak EV charging for $0.06/ kWh instead of my $0.13/ kWh on 110V. Also that doesn’t even include the $10/month total electric bill discount from signing up for EVpulse which automatically controls your charging off peak times, which is basically an entire 250 miles of charge free per month. EV’s are way cheaper than gas by far and way cheaper by far than in CA.
@germanlopez944810 ай бұрын
the lexus only used half tank so the cost of fuel was really 23 dollars.
@AMPed. Жыл бұрын
One important note.. when at supercharger you should stop at 75%. After that the rate of charging speed slows and wasting time and money. So just charge to at most 75% and then go!
@nhattran1074 Жыл бұрын
thanks 4 the tip
@chavale2 Жыл бұрын
then your range is reduced dude; no point to use EV car ...? False /misleading Ad on EV cars...?
@chidorirasenganz Жыл бұрын
@@chavale2 not at all. You are charging to get to the next stop otherwise you are wasting time and money. Charge enough to get to the next stop and keep it moving
@Mr1T2X1 Жыл бұрын
@@chidorirasenganz assuming the next stop is open (no wait line) and has working chargers.
@chidorirasenganz Жыл бұрын
@@Mr1T2X1 always is and the status is always updated in the car
@flattire707 Жыл бұрын
Avoiding the aching back is worth a lot. Last long trip in our Civic was torturous. Our Model 3LR has great seats and we pay $.09 per KWH charging at home. Nice.
@jebes9090908 ай бұрын
but your civic cost half as much and if you have to use superchargers it would cost more than gas too.
@ahkeen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the video. Time is money…sounds like you need to take so many detours just to charge. But you guys are in warm California, but here in the east coast with 20 degree winter weather you can see a huge decrease of battery efficiency up to 25% less. Great for short trips but no good for longer drives.
@dplorbl Жыл бұрын
Previous Model S owner…couple years back, I needed to be at a meeting in TPA Due to lack of chargers in TX (at the time), Tesla routed me up and over, amounting to several days drive; I got there in 25 hours in my Infiniti Gas will always be cheaper
@anjansingh30939 ай бұрын
I found Tesla Model Y seats so firm that I canceled my order.
@Roll_the_Bones4 ай бұрын
Yup, Tesla Y is not a mobile sofa, for sure. Did you test the S or X? They might be more to your taste, tbh.
@brettw15183 ай бұрын
What are you used to sitting on? I find this to be subjective for many. Including motorcycle riders, and mattresses… I thought the model y seats were amazing. I’ve sat in the new model 3 and X and didn’t find them to be a large difference in comfort.
@jonathanwilliams197425 күн бұрын
@@brettw1518 My Y is super comfortable.
@M4532v Жыл бұрын
The Tesla's autopilot used to assist in driver fatigue can't be overstated. You feel completely different after a drive in a Tesla
@kens97sto171 Жыл бұрын
Plenty of other cars have good driver assist systems.. some better than Autopilot...at least for highway use. Gm's SuperCruise is amazing on mapped roads. Personally I like driving.. and would find just sitting there.. boring and more tiresome.
@M4532v Жыл бұрын
@@kens97sto171 I think you have it wrong. Tesla autopilot requires participation. And I usually phase in and out of autopilot. It's a tool not a replacement. However when you need it, it's fully capable.
@kens97sto171 Жыл бұрын
@@M4532v That can be said for any of the driver assistance programs. My point is there are some that actually do a better job of driving than Tesla autopilot does. For me having to touch the wheel and move it every 30 seconds is more annoying than just driving it myself. GM's super Cruise only requires that you be paying attention and looking forward with your eyes open. VW's system doesn't require you to put torque input into the steering wheel, it only requires that you touch the steering wheel. Teslas have pretty twitchy steering especially at highway speeds. Having to actually move the wheel to tell the car you're paying attention isn't really the best solution. I'm kind of a road warrior, probably driven 3 million miles in the last 30 years.. Biggest part of driving assistance that would be useful to me is more the radar cruise control. Maintaining safe distance, and being able to avoid things that unexpectedly pop up like someone slamming on the brakes etc. The steering part I pretty much do unconsciously anyway.
@M4532v Жыл бұрын
@@kens97sto171 like I said. You have it wrong. I have several cars. Tesla autopilot is in another level. Sorry. I have no political agenda and I'm unbiased. It's just on a whole other level.
@kens97sto171 Жыл бұрын
@@M4532v What the hell does politics have to do with it? Like I said. Your experiences with autopilot. My experience is watching professional car reviewers actually test these systems. And autopilot from Tesla is very good. But there are better systems that function under a wider variety of parameters with less user input. GM SuperCruise is one of those. The big negative on that system is it only works on mapped highways. Check out out of spec motoring KZbin channel. They have a test they do called the hogback challenge where they run a variety of vehicles on a particularly difficult loop, and grade it based on its features available. And then take points away when it fails under certain circumstances. Autopilot always does well in this test. Others do better. And others function in different ways that may or may not be more attractive to some people. Like I said personally I would not want to have to apply torque to the steering wheel to tell the car that I'm paying attention, that causes the car to wiggle around and at high speeds can be somewhat troublesome. I would prefer to have a capacitive steering wheel like in the VW. Or GM and Ford which use eye tracking to make sure that you're actually paying attention and other than that don't require any other input from the driver when it's engaged.
@Eyeahmdarck66 Жыл бұрын
One overlooked aspect on long road trips with your entire family is the comparison of safety, especially on the 5.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
That’s true
@TeddyBearGaming999 Жыл бұрын
Both cars in this video have very good safety
@Eyeahmdarck66 Жыл бұрын
@@TeddyBearGaming999 that might be so, but for comparison's sake, the Lexus has lower NHTSA marks for frontal crash and rollover.
@Kingnumber-nd9cl Жыл бұрын
@@Eyeahmdarck66 mmm true, but the lexus wins the upper hand in terms of reliability and less risk of an electrical fire.
@TechMultiview100 Жыл бұрын
@@Kingnumber-nd9cl maybe true for reliability but the Lexus has a higher risk for fire. Electric vehicles in general have a lower risk of fire compared to a gas car compared to popular belief
@roryandsage Жыл бұрын
Great info!!! We rented a Tesla recently and boy was there a learning curve!!! We didn’t know about the faster charging in the lower range! Good to know!
@mamus4 Жыл бұрын
Here is one main point that skews your test results, there is a mechanical or electrical issue with the Lexus RX350, you should on average be getting 23 mpg not 17 mpg even if you drive like a whacky Fumanchu, so in reality the RX350 was cheaper and faster to drive. Second you still had a half a tank of fuel left over in the RX350 where the Tesla needed a recharge to get it to 50%
@bailey.nt86 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I came across this video. I got a really good deal on a Model 3 LR rental for 7 days. It was like $350. I think I'm gonna just get a gas car rental instead. I'm going on a 1500 mile road trip. There are ample chargers but still. I'd be wasting 3 to 4 hours charging.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
It’s still fun charging you should try it!
@LuisFlores-ft1df Жыл бұрын
Pretty much did the same road trip to see Hearst Castle from Fountain Valley. It did take time but with 2 children at the age of 2 and 1 the supercharger stops were more convenient when they got irritable. Also we left earlier in the AM and the price at the first stop was a little cheaper
@BlackstonianTRD Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Time is money that is why I don’t mind paying extra gas for my 23 Tundra.
@JP76511 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done few cross country trips on the highways & have seen few teslas driving slower than the semi trucks to save energy in hot summer times. Today’s EVs are still in its infancy & it’s still a good vehicle to get around town in daily usage. Not for long distance, unless you don’t mind the wait times, don’t travel to hot spots like Vegas during busy times, they’ll be waiting for charger to open up, before you could start charging.
@waltersamuel2077 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right had a same experience in Vegas. Terrible mistake taking an electric car on a road trip.
@bidensucks6792 Жыл бұрын
To save $8 at the cost of adding an hour+ to the trip. I'll be keeping my XLR and CTS V wagon!
@coolsquad74289 ай бұрын
You will mostly benefit the saving from charging at home and the maintain cost, if it was my opinion I would trade the XLR for like a model 3 performance and keep the CTS V wagon as 1 it is rare and 2 it's badass in my opinion and 3 I can road trip in it faster.
@bidensucks67929 ай бұрын
@@coolsquad7428 I don't find Tesla vehicles to be attractive to my eyes. I would not own one because I'd have to see daily. For me Tesla's look like children born to mothers that refused to stop drinking drugging and smoking during pregnancy.
@coolsquad74289 ай бұрын
@@bidensucks6792 It really depends on who you ask like theres people who only like there cars design and that they think there suvs look like an egg and theres people who just hates them, in my opinion the model X is just an egg, the model 3 and model s looks alright and the model Y looks like a bmw x4, mersades glc coupe, the cybertruck is just ugly as shit to me, looks like a car from the jettisons tv show.
@brentloftis3746 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. My experience is that in my model y - road trips do take longer, which we are okay with usually, and are about the price of a gasoline car that would get ~45 mpg.
@joo02 Жыл бұрын
Hybrids are better then since hybrids get 45mpg and cam fill up quicker easier and drives farther in one fillup
@brentloftis3746 Жыл бұрын
@@joo02 I agree that hybrids make a lot of sense on a road trip. For most of the time when you aren’t on a road trip, electric has a big advantage. A plug in hybrid might be the best of both worlds?
@kens97sto171 Жыл бұрын
Lots of factors will change the outcome. If you had a fuel efficient gas car.. like a Hybrid version of that lexus, The cost would be about HALF what you paid in gas... I'm surprised the Lexus was less comfortable. I think you are right about people not knowing the best way to roadtrip in an EV..they charge to 100% every time.. or something. better education by tesla would help.. though there are plenty of good road tripping videos out there.
@kylej1475 Жыл бұрын
I think there is a better cost comparison? For Tesla total cost is 0-100% home charge cost + supercharge cost to get destination. For Lexus is Full tank cost + whatever needed to get there. I have a Model Y and Lexus NX300. For 500 Miles, Tesla would cost me around $50 CAD, and Lexus would cost me around $140 CAD
@chavale2 Жыл бұрын
A false saving Dude; A stupid idea to drive an EV car; What is life for Bro? Are you a Budhist. Monk like me in the past?
@Mr1T2X1 Жыл бұрын
Any difference in registration fees or insurance costs between the vehicles? I understand that the Tesla costs to repair are significant so insurance premiums are higher. Is that true?
@kylej1475 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr1T2X1 for my insurance model y is only $10 cheapper, we dont have Tesla Insurance in Canada. Tesla Insurance can be a lot cheapper.
@Mr1T2X1 Жыл бұрын
@@kylej1475 very good..thanks!
@jasoncarter4343 Жыл бұрын
Here in Tennessee, gas is $3 per gallon. The range of battery powered cars would have to double and the price fall in order to compete with gas powered vehicles.
@Roll_the_Bones4 ай бұрын
That's silly-cheap for gas. But it's not all about the cost of gas vs electric, it's also about carbon footprint etc. If you don't give one (by which I mean a F***), then fine, your choice entirely. Home charge electric would still be cheaper, but EVs cost more to start with... Horses for courses.
@jwang6752 Жыл бұрын
great video Chris! Appreciate the extra effort you guys put into to make it an accurate comparison
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jess!
@rickeybarnes6471 Жыл бұрын
My y performance is so much cheaper to travel in when compared to my 2017 Gt 350! Traveling from Orlando to Miami it cost me around 16 dollars with 1 stop in the Tesla and nonstop in the mustang 50 dollars( 4 bucks/gallon). The time is 4 hours in the Tesla and 3 and 1/2 hours in the mustang. So only 30 minutes difference which allows me to relax and stretch my legs. Great review!
@michaellin8014 Жыл бұрын
Its a interesting comparison. I happened to own a 2019 RX-F and just purchased a 2023 Model y last month. I love both. My wife drives RX and Y is mine:)
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Haha nice!
@byhsu6140 Жыл бұрын
I drove my Prius from Corona to San Francisco and didn't have to put Gas at all until the next day. I believe it was over 420 miles trip.
@JasonTaylor-po5xc Жыл бұрын
With road trips under 500 miles, I find that there isn't much added time due to charging if I have my family + dog with me. My family wants to get out every couple hours and take bio-breaks and get snacks (which leads to bio-breaks later). Dog needs a walk and potty break too. So, we end up spending about 20 minutes at each stop anyway. As long as we stay near the bottom of the battery pack, we can usually get a solid 150 miles out of each 20 minute charge. The hardest one is normally the first top because I really want to maximize that initial leg - which could be 200+ miles - and not everyone can make it that far. Also, on all-day trips, we often want to stop for a meal too - so that is an opportunity to get a full charge in. While road tripping with our minivan, we would often fill up in 5-7 minutes, and sometimes get snacks and someone would need to go to the bathroom mid-cycle anyway - so there goes another 10-15 minutes at a rest area - especially with the dog. Family really doesn't like it when I time their bathroom breaks. If I drive solo, I do end up waiting on the car for charging, but I also want to slow down anyway since I'm the only one driving and need to get out and stretch. Longer trips, there are times when we have to wait on charging. I do counterbalance that with the fact that the vast majority of the time I am at home, thus I never to go near a gas station for daily errands and commute. Also, you need to factor in the energy used to reach your first charging stop - so used kW * your local power rate. You could have streamlined it a bit more by stopping at below 10% state of charge - it's a bit more aggressive than the Tesla nav prefers then filling up just enough to reach the next v3 supercharger or as the rate dips below 150kWh. Check out Out of Spec for their aggressive style of road tripping in EVs.
@cosmicgirl910 Жыл бұрын
This is a really good video, and edited very well! Thanks Chris!! :)
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Yay thank you cosmic girl 910! Haha
@melissaclemons9653 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how he talks crap about the Lexus and he’s giving it to his mom. 😂 “Here, have this crappy car.” 😂 It’s super entertaining to watch though. Love his videos!
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Haha it’s still a good car lol
@melissaclemons9653 Жыл бұрын
@@EverydayChris I know I was just messing with ya. Very nice gift for your mom!
@josephayala232 Жыл бұрын
@@EverydayChris man Lexus has better quality than Tesla, also more reliable than a Tesla
@David-gj9qr8 ай бұрын
A Lexus is probably better than a Tesla. Shorter wait time for filling up and most likely better reliability. The only thing Tesla has over the Lexus is the cheaper costs for recharging and it's better for the environment
@MrPeng Жыл бұрын
After took my model x 100d from Dallas to Florida, I decide to buy a gas car again, it was a torture to follow the charging station route , even it is the fastest route, you have no choice if you find a more interesting route .
@tktkwei Жыл бұрын
I have a Tesla and would never take it to roadtrip again. I know it can pretty much go anywhere, but it takes planning not only for supercharging, but also the hotel location selections, etc. It also takes longer to travel. On a road trip, I wanna get to the destinations faster so I can enjoy my time at where I suppose to be and do more there. Sometimes the best route and hotel location would not be near superchargers, so it is a pain to charge. And I don’t wanna stay somewhere near superchargers in a hotel that I don’t like so. It’s just too much work to drive an EV for roadtrip. I would just pay the gas and get to my place fast and enjoy the time playing, not charging. But for everyday drive, Tesla for the win.
@SpottedSharks Жыл бұрын
I'm the opposite. I did a 4000 miles trip in my Tesla last summer and loved every minute. Would never use a gas car on a long trip again. If I want to get there quickly I will fly.
@waltersamuel2077 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. Electric car for the daily driving not road trips. Spending too much time to charge is very annoying.
@michoacanom4320 Жыл бұрын
Agree i have a f150 with the 36gallon thank i get over 800miles per tank and i travel once a month to mexico 1300miles 1 way i only fuel up once and still make it home with fuel electric trucks,cars not even an option for me total cost on fuel tolls food its 300dlls 1 way flying has cost me 600dlls ive done it couple times buying tickets time ahead and thats why i would rather drive saves me half on money and driving vs flying for me its about 7hrs longer driving i count the time when i leave my house in usa till i make it in my house in mexico
@jamborginiii1732 Жыл бұрын
@@SpottedSharks thanks lol more gas cars for us lol cause while you’re stuck charging your car, I’m already halfway
@mikemazzantini639710 ай бұрын
I think I'll be the opposite, time will tell. I typically hate road trips because I don't enjoy the driving part. I just got a Tesla and am actually looking forward to some road trip and to sound cliche, it's about the journey not the destination. We'll see how it goes.
@jonlul Жыл бұрын
Awww I loved ur moms reaction! Great son & daughter in law. Informative video. I drive anAccord. But I a,ways like watching the Teslas charge at rest stops & such here in the Chicagoland area.
@irenewang8302 Жыл бұрын
This is such a fun video! Petition to have more Everyday Jan content:)
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Haha
@Geckogold Жыл бұрын
I bought my Model Y knowing it would take longer to road trip with compared to a gas car. But as you mentioned in the video, Autopilot and the supercharging stops helps to take so much of the stress from long distance driving that people normally get when going long distances. The increased planning it takes to do a route can be fun though. And in some cases it helped me find new places to visit along my route, such as the Badlands when I was driving to Yellowstone, Petrified Forest National Park and Meteor Crater on my way to the Grand Canyon, Avenue of the Giants while visiting northern California, and driving through the Tail of the Dragon which was close by to Great Smoky Mountains National Park. My average supercharging times are around 15-25 minutes depending on if it's a V1/V2 or V3, and how far the next supercharger is from the one I'm charging at. My record for shortest supercharger stop was about 7 minutes, which was at a V3, and that was the time it took me to go to the bathroom and back. And when I'm not on a road trip and just doing daily driving to work and local shopping trips, it's so much cheaper, and I love being able to "fuel up" in my garage whereas with a gas car I'd have to take it to a gas station every week in freezing cold, sweltering heat, or heavy downpours, paying random gas prices which always seems to go up just before I have to pump.
@egaskrad Жыл бұрын
well, petrol car has cruise control and you do not have to worry about the pedal most of the time. even with autopilot, you still need to keep your eyes on the road, ready to take over any time. so the only different is your hands, which I left on my laps holding the bottom of the wheel. dont think it is going to be a big different on a highway.
@jamborginiii1732 Жыл бұрын
Gas cars are still better
@jeffpicken5057 Жыл бұрын
Always like your vids. Thanks for sharing your comparison. Looks like your mom was very appreciative of her new ride.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff!
@1whoQuestions Жыл бұрын
Great Video Chris/Jan. I did similar trip in an EV recently and got somewhat similar charging results. Have you done a similar comparison between an EV vs. a hybrid that get 40+ miles per gallon? You might be surprised that a hybrid maybe less expensive for road-tripping. Also, please show how busy the Superchargers really are, like on weekends and holidays. They are packed, not empty like in your videos. 😄. Keep making the great videos. Thanks.
@michaelcrz1430 Жыл бұрын
Yup, experience the same thing. I save $$$ driving my Prius to SoCal than my Model 3. The difference between EV and Gas is the waiting time.
@dell051lt Жыл бұрын
I prefer a hybrid (gasoline electric non plug in). Have a Ford Fusion Hybrid I drove coast to coast. Got 41 MPG after a 2900 mile road trip. Amazing on gas. Although Im sure the self driving Tesla’s are amazing, Im just not too keen on a full electric car because of the availability of charging stations. The US isnt there yet, a hybrid suite me just fine, for now.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Haha will do
@rocketrollsvlogs7625Ай бұрын
Stopping to supercharge is actually part of the fun for me. Now it cost me $80 to fill up my gas car (a large premium guzzling sedan), and about $50 worth of supercharging for equivalent mileage. My first leg leaving home is not charged at a SC, whereas my gas is coming from a station.
@juliusjacksonivАй бұрын
Great video. We usually road trip in the F-150 but we’re considering a Model Y so I’m renting one for our 500 mile trip next week to see how we like it. Looking forward to checking it out.
@EverydayChrisАй бұрын
Good choice! Try and get FSD!
@JR_SupportOurHeroes Жыл бұрын
Great video and so nice of you two to gift your parents a really nice vehicle
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@dridzzzz_ Жыл бұрын
EVERDAY JAN!!!!! Taking over the Cam!!! 🎉🎉
@richardkuo3557 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I have a 2015 Lexus RX and 2020 M3P. I still find the RX very comfortable (not sure why you find the ride uncomfortable, maybe just the gear shifting and braking?), but Tesla is definitely more comfortable for road trip and is the preferred choice. Btw, the supercharging is slower if someone is charging next to you. It looks like both stops you didn't have anyone charging next to your Y.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
It’s the f sport seats! Everyone said it’s very rigid.
@cgamiga Жыл бұрын
150KW V2 superchargers do split power between a/b stalls, but they stopped at v3 250KW superchargers which are full speed/power to every stall... it can make a big difference, especially arriving low 15-25% charge, you get full 250kw power, it goes very fast. AP/tesla relaxed driving is definitely a plus- We did a 12hr roadtrip to Death Valley from bay area (a few scenic stops on way, poppy reserve by Lancaster etc), and despite the long drive, 8a-8p, I was feeling very good by the evening arrival... MUCH MUCH better than even 4-5hr drives to Tahoe in gas car! I was gripping steering wheel tight on some of the steep curvy parts going into the valley, missed AutoPilot, but... so much nicer. and, free hotel charging in valley saved me $100 vs $9/gal park gas!!
@johnerickp Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! This is the exact comparison I needed. I have an RX and was thinking of the Model Y.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Lots of people are in the same boat! Gotta love the new rx styling though
@LoeNateDogg Жыл бұрын
My boy acted like he forgot how cars have buttons lol. I like buttons.
@Roll_the_Bones4 ай бұрын
You like buttons, I like buttons. We ALL like buttons! Except Elon.
@Scottie_Do2 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your content! Your editing skills and music choices are top-notch. Although most of what you discuss (about 95%) doesn’t apply to me since I have a first-gen Model S, I still enjoy watching your videos. Could you please update your Amazon shop list?
@jeff1232 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video…..I’ve always wanted to see a side by side real world example-thanks
@djcalvin408 Жыл бұрын
i literally just took a road trip in my 2022 model y performance. We went from San Jose down to San Diego, Ca. Electric is definitely took much more time, and cost more compared to gas cars. Dont think i'll ever pull that stunt again. It was way too much charging and time spent at superchargers.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Dang I like how a lot of superchargers are in cool areas!
@wacpickleball Жыл бұрын
I’m planning to make a similar trip from sj to anaheim when the Y arrives in a month or so. I kept reading of the longer time at supercharges and don’t really like it much as I’m mostly a stop, refill and go. The downtime at SC will be tough to get use to. From mapping, it looks like I can do one SC stop around kettleman then one short one at Tejon and then be in OC. Another thing is hotel as the one I usually stay isn't near a SC or has fast on site charges . It would definitely a new experience.
@haiping0918 Жыл бұрын
I saw $6.99 per galon in Monrovia, CA today. and it is going up, and i paid $0.37 per kw charging last night in Tesla supercharging station. I paid less than $4.00 for 14% of my Model Y. It is not matter of the $, it is matter of how you feel when you pay hot $100 cash for 17 galon of gas every time.
@helenn99 Жыл бұрын
For $12 saving and we have to pay $65k for Y model? For same size car, how much for a Camry or Malibu ? That’s said, we have to pay $40k in advance gas with Y model ?
@Toxic-hz8sl Жыл бұрын
Love the projected head up display on the RX
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Same
@인간조무사-c7z Жыл бұрын
Both cars are great! Thank you for making amazing video.
@jordanking6939 Жыл бұрын
Gas is cheaper. I made a mistake renting a Tesla on my Vegas trip from San Francisco. You have to have your settings on chill mode and comfort steering to not waste the battery. I made the mistake charging over the 80% mark which ate up more time. If you're traveling from the Bay Area to Los Angeles, add an additional 2 hours to your destination.
@alex-650 Жыл бұрын
Did a similar trip socal to norcal. I left with 50% charge and had to supercharge 3 times, gas car filled once and was always waiting for / with me. So gas is much faster. Personally though, I'd always plan so I can take the Tesla. Far less stressful with FSD, and the breaks are relaxing.
@LysanderLH Жыл бұрын
Superchargers in Europe tend to require drivers to leave the motorway and then drive to either a hotel car park or a bank of Superchargers. Refuelling an ICE car can easily be done without needing to leave the motorway at all. Then theres price fixing where electricity has been priced to match the mpg of an average saloon. This means the cost is the same but overall journey time can be hours longer.
@daguzify Жыл бұрын
I drive 18 hours straight to Orlando from Chicago. I would never buy an electric if it was my only car.
@Roll_the_Bones4 ай бұрын
I would go by rail, if there's an option. That's a killer journey on the road... Do you do the whole run without stopping for an "essential need", or food? Don't know the route, but you can charge most Tesla's from 10% to 80% in the 20 mins it takes to go to a rest-room, then buy and consume a burger or coffee.
@daguzify4 ай бұрын
@@Roll_the_Bones it takes me 5 minutes to gas up and piss. I have food in the cooler. Sorry but EV’s are a compromise I’m not willing to make.
@Ishmael01 Жыл бұрын
The cost of filling up gas vs charging at home should’ve been considered at the beginning. Also the time it took filling up gas before the trip.
@completelyrandominterests Жыл бұрын
I didn't see you guys eating or mention stopping to eat, so I'd like to add the fact that if you did stop to eat, the trip time difference would be a lot smaller since you can charge during.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
That’s true. Or if I had to poop. That’s 30 min right there
@completelyrandominterests Жыл бұрын
@@EverydayChris haha
@jasonroske438410 ай бұрын
Electric car not so good where I live. Winter driving you can cut your range by half or even more. There only 5 change station here and non in the community's so road trip would be impossible. Price for charging is only going to go up once the government figures out how to charge you the road tax and other costs that are in the price of fuel.
@thewaxlab Жыл бұрын
I haven’t taken a road trip in my Y, but like you I also live in Orange County and cover a territory that regularly has me going down to the San Diego area multiple times per week. I’m able to wake up with a full charge (86%) and drive down anywhere in SD, make a few stops, and head back without having to use the supercharger. I was filling up multiple times per week. So, I love the savings on fuel. I don’t think my feelings will change on a road trip as I usually fly to NorCal anyways. But maybe someday, who knows?
@tornadotj20599 ай бұрын
We are lucky. Where we live our power is 10 cents per kWh. And we bought our Model 3 at the end of December 2022 so we got 2 years of free supercharging.
@alejandroescobar888610 ай бұрын
they are charging at peak hours price varies by time if you travel at night that price would be cut in half and if you do uber you get 40% off charging at EvGo branded chargers
@restarea590 Жыл бұрын
Button city 😂 good one and nice work 👏
@nickdowns14177 ай бұрын
really interesting video. 12$ doesnt seem like a lot but when you factor in how many miles you put on the gas car (which would lead to more frequent oil changes), how it was average 50-60 to fill up gas but only ~17$ to charge... im pretty split! i love the quickness of a gas car but you cant beat how much you save with a tesla and honestly im fine extending my trip if it means im saving that much
@EverydayChris7 ай бұрын
Great point!
@DR-nc8nc3 ай бұрын
My experience is that road tripping my MY is a wash vs. buying gas due to high cost of supercharging and takes longer. That said I only pay 0.11 per Kwhr for electricity so home charging for everyday driving is a real savings.
@530murray Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. However, you could've filled up at the cheaper Valero ($4.29) adjacent to the Chevron ($5.19) and saved $7. And with a 1/2 tank remaining the Lexus net fuel costs were half vs. the Tesla? And difficult to monetize the 1/2 hour time differential.
@iallso1 Жыл бұрын
If I was driving for 6 hours I would be stopping around about every 2 hours irrespective of EV or ICE vehicle. Hopefully my partner would take the middle stint, to break it up. I generally find that on a journey of this distance I need to charge for about 45 minutes, our charger network is predominantly 50kw chargers, and that is enough time to find and use the toilet, get refreshments, and stretch my legs. It's not time spent just waiting for the charger. According to the manufacturers data if I had the petrol equivalent of my EV I would achieve 4.4 litres per 100km and the current price of petrol is $2.22/litre so my recent 1800km roadie would have cost $175.8. (It would have cost more in practice travelling at non optimal speeds over mountain passes, and with fuel more expensive away from the main cities, not to mention fuel economy figures being inaccurate). The cost of the 5 charges during the trip totalled $114. Most of our charging is done at home, and a good amount of that is free due to the solar system on the roof, I have only used public chargers 39 times in close to 3 years of EV ownership, and some of those were to educate myself regarding their use, and utilise free chargers where they were available.
@fnordpol5 ай бұрын
It is still a gas friendly estimation, when you have startet at home you had a complete fill for half the price in your battery while the Gas car was most certainly filled at the gas station.
@vetriselvan5900 Жыл бұрын
Plug in hybrids are opt for both city and freeways. Avg. we drive 50 miles a day on city which can be done by plug-ins with pure battery and freeway long trips save time and not worry about charging. Remember plug-in hybrids like rav4 prime gives 40 miles in freeways.
@toro80 Жыл бұрын
If you value and hour of your life in $8.71 go for it We own a model y but we don’t do long trips on it takes away time that you can use at your final destination
@NoxNoctisUmbra7 ай бұрын
If you had a hybrid SUV you could cut the gas price almost in half.
@sj_.andres11 ай бұрын
I live in San Jose and I’m planning to buy a Tesla X soon!
@amwelty Жыл бұрын
Unexpectedly given an EV by the rental company when visiting the UK. A nightmare - didn't know where to charge, how to effectively charge, etc. This video is a great help for how to plan a roadtrip - probably would've been great in Wales.
@sgomez81946 ай бұрын
I've been researching cost of ownership between ICE and EVs, and with the help of AI I did a rough estimate from info found online between a Honda Accord(gas & hybrid) and a Tesla Model 3. Assuming that I pay 30k for either vehicle, I found that the Hybrid is slightly cheaper to own than the gas version over the 15 years. It is the cost of insurance and battery replacement that unfortunately kills it for the EVs at the moment. The gas ends up being around 29-30k cheaper than the Tesla. Hybrid ends up being around $3k-4k cheaper than the gas.
@crs14743 ай бұрын
Avg in California for PGE is .39-.50 per kWhr. Almost comparable to most EV charging stations.
@paulnolan4464 Жыл бұрын
Gas, you mean petroleum, gas is for heating/ cooking etc
@MH-wm6df Жыл бұрын
Driving teslas for 8 years . No car I’d rather take on long road trips
@egaskrad Жыл бұрын
Anytime I had a road trip over 3 hours, I always take a 15~30 minutes break in between/every two hours to keep myself in top condition.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Amen the booty can’t take it anymore
@dayoadeosun1520 Жыл бұрын
Great video for educational purpose. This doesn't convince me to go full EV. With my Eco driving style and annual mileage less than 20k, cost of ownership of a phev is still than an EV. I am just cool with my prius 2020 phev. Would consider rav4 phev later.
@brunobento59068 ай бұрын
lol No, thank you I’ll continue on filling up😂😂😂
@John_Duh_Vader Жыл бұрын
The ending was fabulous. Lol.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Hahah
@santillbrezon2161 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good channel.👍
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@10thPlanetMissionViejo4 күн бұрын
Can you link where you got those 19 in wheels? They look like the 20 in induction wheels but I imagine these being smaller gets you better range. Great channel. Thanks!
@EverydayChris4 күн бұрын
Haha check out my dedicated video!! Thank you!
@KP-hi1om Жыл бұрын
I drive a Prius (48-51 mpg) and live in Pittsburgh. We don't have much of a charging infrastructure for EVs. Gas is around $3.80 - $4. If you don't need the bells and whistles I still think the best value is a Prius.
@brettdavid649110 ай бұрын
I drive a 2009 gmc 1500 2 wheel drive with a 5.3 V8 with a 22 gallon tank, I drove from Hawthorne Nevada to La Mirada California in August with the A/ C on all the way, that’s 405 miles , that’s right at 20.0 miles a gallon and I didn’t stop until I arrived, I made the trip in right around 7 hours. No EV can do this, I’ll keep my gas vehicle .I live in Meridian Idaho and always make this trip by driving straight through, gas up in Winnemucca Nevada and again in Hawthorne.
@bradhaughton669811 ай бұрын
If I was doing this type of road trip I would not be tired in the gas car or electric car because in the gas car you can still use cruise control if you have adaptive cruise it's almost like autopilot but without Auto steer or auto lane change. For me, I would still keep a gas and electric car.
@TUCSONTITO73 Жыл бұрын
MY EQUINOX GIVES ME 430 MILES ON A FULL TANK & IT'S A 4 CYLINDER V6 WILL OBVIOUSLY CONSUME MORE GAS . ELECTRIC CARS ARE CRAP IN THE FREEZING TEMPERATURES . NO THANKS I'LL STICK WITH MY GAS SUV . DON'T HAVE THE STRUGLE ON WAITING TO FILL UP & GO .
@sn4rl277 Жыл бұрын
I am looking to pickup a Tesla Model 3 Per in a few months. The big seller for me is the charging from home at a much lower cost. In the Midwest there are not as many Tesla super chargers, so traveling maybe interesting vs West coast states (such as California). The savings one gets from charging at home (off peak or at night) vs filling up with gas once a week, is where the real savings can be had. Overall I want the performance mixed with the tech of the Tesla. The charging when traveling with a Tesla is better than the other options currently. I am seeing super chargers popping up everywhere now. I feel that in 2 to 3 years traveling with a EV is going to be really easy overall.
@filibertogutierrez8472 Жыл бұрын
Road trips are always are not the main sell fir teslas. But its still fun and cool and would love to try one day. The auto pilot is the main thing i would go on road trips for.
@pit5000 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I don’t precondition my battery cause it takes some battery to do it. When I’m going to a supercharger during higher priced hours I would just charge a bit longer but charge less by not preconditioning.
@EverydayChris Жыл бұрын
Good tips Pete!
@9965621092kjm Жыл бұрын
Honestly Tesla is too much of a headache way easier to just drive a gas powered car
@irfanhusein1445 Жыл бұрын
Ev’s are great for daily commuting and road trips of less than 200 miles, and much cheaper to fuel if you are able to charge at home. However for a 4000 mile road trip through northern US and Canadian national parks, like we are planning, nothing beats the convenience of a mid size ICE SUV
@Globaltravel9934 Жыл бұрын
After driving a Tesla for over a year now I must say we have a ways to go with EV before gas is obsolete. Supercharging is affordable but takes about 50 mins depending on state of charge whereas a gas car is fueled in 50 seconds and gone in 60 🤣 I love the model y but if it’s a road trip I’m driving gas for sure. Not enough of a supercharging network on the east coast yet either. Gas stations however are everywhere
@surfandsnowbord Жыл бұрын
50 minutes? Are you drivig the X? I drive 4 hours between Santa Barbara every week. I always start at 80% charge and have to charge once halfway, which takes 20-25 minutes max to get me home. Maybe if I was at 5% and tried to charge to 100 it would take 50 minutes but that would be pretty unnecessary in most cases. I've never been close to that. A 20 minute break to stretch the legs on a 4 hour drive ends up being perfect. Also want to say my other car is a 4runner and costs about 4x as much to drive around.
@chuck2200 Жыл бұрын
an accurate comparison would involve charging to 100% since you are going on a long road trip.