EFAP Mini: Reacting to The Book of Boba Fett S01E02 - The Gun Train

And already we have episode 2! THE GUN TRAIN!
The epic episode in which the dreaded Gun Train crosses paths with Boba Fett, will Fett be able to defeat this wild creature? Will he discover the gold within? Will he earn the raiders trust? discover the answers to these mysteries in this episode that finally answers the question of...
Who wins in a fight? Boba Fett... or The Gun Train.
Edited by MauLer and Fringy

[@robertwhite9889]

I can't believe that they unironically had someone combing the desert. Star wars has become such a joke that it is taking inspiration from spaceballs, the thing that was a parody of it.

[@ubermorph1000]

They were actual trying to find someone in the sand? Lol

[@Edmar_Fecler]

They’re just trying to find those water plants. A rake is more convenient than your hands

[@PanzerblitzRnR]

Literally the first thing I thought of as soon as I saw it, especially when they showed the dude with the small rake. Hopefully Mauler will put the clip in on the next episode.

[@lysytoszef]

It's every IP these days. Everything is just "lol so random" jokes or pop-culture references.

[@tank19768]

@@PanzerblitzRnR Bro those rakes are expensive, can't be giving them to everyone gees.

[@greatclubsandwich5612]

That train driving droid is my hero... just yeets himself out the window and fucks off... go little dude, escape this show while you can.

[@pizzatime4700]

Little dude loves his life what a lad

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

I laughed so much at that. He was all like "I am not getting paid at all, why go down with the ship?" Though again makes me wonder, why would anyone program droids with such self preservation?

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍🙏😂. The hero we deserve

[@jeremypayne5078]

*The guards are like Dwight Schrute* "I'm known for my loyalty. And I'm willing to drop everything and go wherever they value loyalty best."

[@Legomanarthur]

It would've been hilarious if the assassin didn't fear death under any circumstances and still wouldn't budge at the sight of the gate opening. I wonder what good guy Boba would've done then.

[@arturzinurov4781]

“If you tell me I won’t kill you pinkie promise”

[@alexhayden219]

Like everything else in the show, that ploy was pathetic.

[@smiley9328]

Something I noticed: The "Gun Train" might be a reference to the The Transcontinental Railroad which connected East and West America. It was used as a transport to hunt buffalo and the tracks were built through Indian reservations (recommend reading into it a little bit). Thats a brief summary but needless to say, Boba's spiel about "ancestral homeland" of the sand people may have been a bit too on the nose to what they are trying to depict the sand people as. Loving the reactions so far however, the show, not so much.

[@essexclass8168]

Could also be Bawbence of Tatoonia and the Ottoman Rail?

[@vonpredator]

Star Wars: Dances with Banthas

[@Zero_2500]

Yes, poorly veiled allegories about 19th century America are really essential to telling a Star Wars story. It really adds so many intricate layers to the narrative weave 🤣🤣

[@shiravalen]

A bounty hunter taking a side in a power dispute out of pure sensitivity and personal interest in tribal customs (like torture) makes complete sense. /s

[@cyberglum]

I remember way-back-when ( I assume its all changed now) that "Tusken Raiders" was a termed used by locals because the Sandpeople had raided a settlement named Tusken at some point in the past. It was nothing to do with their race.

[@jlcburr]

Hutts apparently weigh about 3000 lbs. I want to know what kind of steroids those 10 servants carrying that throne are taking.

[@sparkypack]

💪💪💪 Since Disney owns Marvel, they brought over some Hulk & super soldier servants.

[@Arko777777]

"The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural." Disney.

[@Fargoth_Ur]

He didn't even have to necessarily befriend any of the tuskens to get the gear he shows up with in Mandalorian. You'd think a ruthless bounty hunter would have no qualms about killing and looting raiders for their gear in order to survive.

[@eugenekrabs6400]

But how would we be able to sympathize with a character who kills slave owning raiders that are implied to rape Anakin’s mom?

[@shiravalen]

A bounty hunter wouldn't arbitrarily sympathize with any particular faction, especially one that harmed him. However ubiquitous modern sensibilities may be, it shouldn't take much imagination for a writer to figure out how that can't apply to people like bounty hunters or crime lords.

[@JekPorkbricks]

They're gonna have a field day with episode 3 of the series.

[@tljsucks1166]

The people who live in a vast desert wearing warm clothes pour water on the ground every time they get it.

[@frankf2902]

At around 8:00, while suggesting alternate plot lines for a more interesting show, the idea of boba subtly undermining the current local regime is a concept even rebels (a show I’m mixed on) managed to try. Our small group of heroes would target supply transports, fuel depots, etc. because if they got in a direct military conflict the empire would wipe the floor with them. It’s really disappointing to see the lack of substantive creative effort under the surface of this flashy show

[@greatclubsandwich5612]

You know, with how dumb this show is with all its random action scenes and crap worldbuilding, I would call it lizard brained... BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS LITERALLY LIZARD BRAINED!

[@bad-people6510]

"Hey, what if we ripped off _Lawrence of Arabia_ but made it shitty, and made it somehow feel longer?" "Why that sounds like a perfect vehicle for my nose lizard idea!"

[@dunderminnet]

How can people watch that show and not wish they had a gecko crawl inside their nose.

[@Yuri-Camp]

17:42 predicts mando S3 giant crocodile

[@jamesmacken9501]

Fringy must have communed with the spiders

[@SgtKOnyx]

Literally commented out loud "where'd the guards go?" while watching

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

Little driver robot was the best part of this. Btw, was this the James Gunn-train? Felt like it.

[@JayExci]

hey you told me you cut jokes that don't land >:(

[@mra4696]

"And just like that" rage or praise ¿?

[@kelp7060]

They land in a different way though, at least for me ^^

[@Kernwadi]

"A lie is just an incomplete truth." -Bilbo Baggins

[@miep3934]

So just cut all your contributions?

[@miep3934]

@@cadmus204 in your subjectively objective opinion!

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

I love how the show tries to portray the Tuskan Raiders as civilized people despite the fact that Attack of the Clones went out of its way to tell us that the Tusken Raiders attacked Shmi Skywalker, captured her, tortured her to death...and killed anyone that tried to rescue her...Which was Anakins entire reason for wiping the Tuskan village and killing everyone in it in the first place...

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

@@kylesimmons9457 Also the fact that the Tusken Raiders dont know what speeders are...yet the Leader of the clan was using binoculars to find the Gun Train...

[@willbeard4835]

They did say there are many different types of tuskans including some who are brutal and take slaves etc. Seemed like they were trying to make these tuskans more "peaceful". But I'm also confused since these tuskans also had a slave before they enslaved boba so idfk

[@Ceyx000]

Every year the Tuskens hold a vigil in remembrance of those slaughtered by the "Blue Devil".

[@LawlTwins]

Yup, it's like they are shitting on the story again. Anakin was never the chosen one anyway.

[@willbeard4835]

@@LawlTwins blasphemy sir. Vader IS the chosen one. Qui Gon was not wrong. Luke just had to do a Jedi mind trick on his dad to make him realize his destiny

[@Dr_Mafia]

Boba Fett used the XP he got from the gun train battle to upgrade his melee weapon

[@urlicqeldromamakolligjazva1752]

And downgrade his wisdom/intelligence xp.

[@theweppe27official]

_Side Quest completed _*_BLING_*_ 1500 XP RECEIVED_

[@mykr0324]

Full strength and dex. Won't be using spells, the dumb shit

[@mekudu-man3804]

@@mykr0324 how would he, when he has not chosen the Jedi route?

[@Themaxxrad99]

@@mekudu-man3804 I could imagine this version of boba yelling out "fire ball, fire ball!" When he shoots his flame thrower.

[@fathorse8]

If you told me 2010 that there would be a show about Boba Fett, in which he would insert Lizards into his nose, be trippin balls, and become a tusken raider, I would have laughed. I'm beyond confsed.

[@Comradcommodore]

If you told me in 2020 that the Boba Fett show would have him inserting lizards into his nose, tripping balls, and becoming a tusken raider I would have laughed and said naw. But here we are

[@kavinskysmith4094]

God I'm laughing like Java the hutt at that, Welcome to the 2020's pal lol

[@NotThatGuy523]

What’s wrong with it, I think it’s neat

[@19Ledor]

"To find a worthy branch you must overdose on nose-lizard.“ -Tuskyus Baggles

[@Akakiryuushin]

@@Comradcommodore if you told me that in 2022 I would call bullshit

[@trololo_zhirnota]

Boba can't skip any sidequest, he is trying to get all the X-Box "Achievments".

[@soyuzdavillan721]

Your name is tralala zheernota? Odd but ok

[@tshouse]

😂😂😂

[@uhrwerk5505]

Now my headcanon is that Boba is player-controlled by someone who managed to lose the melee combat tutorial against the sand person, forgets he has abilities like the jetpack, and makes all the worst dialogue decisions

[@trololo_zhirnota]

@@uhrwerk5505 Like a "Pro Game Reviewer" Journalis?

[@Oi-fo1wt]

It really is like he’s trying to get every quest even the stupid ones lmao

[@watcher99999]

I am officially sick of Tatooine. I never want to see it again, I don't even want to hear its stupid fucking name. "Well if there is a bright center of the universe, you're on the furthest planet from it." -Luke Skywalker, standing on the planet that the majority of star wars content takes place on

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@bilbobaggins9451 Rise of Skywalker. What we saw in TFA was Jakku- not that it makes much difference.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@bilbobaggins9451 Yes and no. Jakku seems to be nothing *but* Sand, which is honestly why I found the Planet so boring. Doesn't even have real Cities. Anakin's Homeworld at least has some Rocks, some Canyons, and multiple Settlements. And it got Jawas. What does Jakku have? Unkarr Plutt? Not nearly as cute! 😆

[@killereye]

You don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

[@CMCAdvanced]

But..but... Boba Fett! AT-ST AT-ST! Tatooineeeeeee!!!!!

[@rhyscallinan3680]

At least when Anakin had that whole "I don't like sand" thing, you could understand that. Logical reasons for something that I feel.

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

"Their (the assassins from the previous episode) reputation is legendary." You expect me to believe that a group of people surrounding a guy with shields and tazing him for unknown reasons are not only just a random gang, but are also a group of legendary assassins? No.

[@Arko777777]

Yeah, I don't buy that either. That assassination attempt is laughable. I bet that the "Poke them with electric sticks until they're exhausted" method isn't even in the top 20 Tatooine assassination methods list.

[@benjamingrant5970]

Low rent cattleprods: The weapon of choice of ALL master assassins...

[@spartanMN300]

This is Star Wars, the title of “Legendary” doesn’t seem to be that hard to obtain.

[@erdelf]

That is specifically addressed in the episode.. the group they belong to is legendary, those guys specifically are shit. The group cashes in on brand recognition and sends guys out that really want to belong to the group but don't necessarily have the training and talent

[@petriew2018]

What do you mean 'no'? but they told you they're legendary.The author is telling you how you should feel and you're not blindly consuming! stop being a manbaby!

[@dunderminnet]

"He became good guy because he spent time with tuskan raiders who were noble and good people who just enslaves anyone they find in the desert and raid trains and kill basically everyone and takes all their guns leaving them stranded in a huge desert, but they're GOOD guys you know, and so is CRIMELORD BOBA FETT!" jesus christ.

[@tljsucks1166]

His plan is obviously to be nice and friendly enough that people give him tribute. The reason he didn't set up a criminal empire or take the slightest bit of caution is to make himself look more approachable, so he can get rich by people giving him money. This is way more interesting than that stupid show Breaking Bad.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Yeah, they sure are great, aren't they? Just ask Anakin's mom

[@tljsucks1166]

@@HerohammerStudios The Mandalorian was even worse with this. In the OT and prequels, they would kill every unsuspecting traveler and take their stuff. The jawas scavenged and ripped people off. In the Mandalorian, the Jawas tore apart his ship and made him fight a monster, but the sand people only demanded one object to pass on their lands despite being able to surprise attack him. They literally made the Jawas worse than the sand people!!! Looks like they are running with it in this show.

[@libertyprime6932]

Worse, he's already nice before that. He's not killing Tuscans, he's offering to rescue random other prisoners, he goes and gets the Speeders and he bloody comes back to the tribe...

[@HerohammerStudios]

@@tljsucks1166 on a bit more of a serious note, isn't it also kinda fucked how they're now connecting what have basically been show as stupid, aggressive animals to 'natives'? Saying that in the same episode they're shown being so dumb and savage that they randomly try to rip apart those speeders seems pretty insulting to me

[@fractaljack210]

The stand-in of the Sand People as the American Indian, the Train as the Europeans, the Bantha as Buffalo, and the speeder bikes as horses, was too on the head for me.

[@ZionStrickland]

And how they were saved by a “civilized” outsider who teaches how to beat them by showing how to use their outside things (speeders - horses). It’s literally an old “white savior” trope but Star Wars

[@wrthgdrver710]

Also Boba speaking to the audience "this is the ancestral home of the tusken" like jesus, we get it. The analogy wasn't subtle enough you had to beat us with it.

[@EmberBright2077]

@@ZionStrickland to be fair I don't really buy that as a criticism. I don't think it's racist to have someone with understanding of superior technology to introduce it to those without, and thus save the day.

[@ZionStrickland]

@@EmberBright2077 no, but it’s a trope, and a boring one at that

[@EmberBright2077]

@@ZionStrickland I mean literally everything is a trope, so I don't know how much that matters. As well, boring is kind of subjective. I personally really like stories of foreigners learning and appreciating the ways of a new people, and ultimately becoming their hero.

[@bleeters5984]

So in the old EU books there was a character called Talon Karrde. He was a crime boss who absorbed most of Jabba's empire into his after RotJ and became one of the prominent underworld players in the post-war period, over time came to an initially uneasy but eventual firm alliance with the new republic through his interactions with Luke Skywalker and the grudging but mutual respect they develop for one another due to Karrde's shrewd and calculating yet sensible and honourable nature. I'm mentioning this because I fully expect that Boba will get parachuted into this role when they move onto pillaging the post RotJ EU, the Thrawn books in particular. If Fennec is the new Mara Jade I'm committing seppuku.

[@michaelreyes9283]

Ashoka would be the new luke as disney luke is trash and the new republic is worthless

[@darthdarth4297]

@@michaelreyes9283 Ahsokah is a great character. But if Disney made her she would be trash

[@Ardejas]

Asoka should have died shortly before ep 3 to push Anakin further to the Dark side. ...She also should have been Obi-Wans Padawan not Anakin's...

[@wwyd4akb]

god I love those books, and the audio books. actual quality writing and incredible narration/ voice acting

[@petriew2018]

Talon Karrde was such a great character. He had none of the traits you'd associate with a traditional hero or villain. Not much of a fighter, no super powers... He was just hella smart and exceptionally good at playing people Which is why he'll never be in Disney Star Wars. He's got a brain and so his presence would break the universe

[@mk-el6534]

A crime lord a heartless bounty hunter, worried about natives and their "ancestral claims", LMAO.

[@proudsaiyanprince2651]

THE MESSAGE

[@kavinskysmith4094]

wait until they put an indian headdress on him................

[@sparkypack]

I was watching some videos and no surprise that Disnoids are drawn into this. There are people out there giving it an 8/10. 😑

[@InceyWincey]

To be honest I can totally see a mafia boss using the ancestral claims of the indigenous people for leverage.

[@joumero7493]

@@InceyWincey In real life raiders would control a specific choke point like a small strait/canal or the sliver of oasis forming a path through the desert. Then whoever is passing would have to pay a fee for safe passage. Saying ancestral claims is irrelevant as it’s a freaking desert and the train is just passing through. It’s only said to make him a good boy instead of treating him like the raider he is.

[@speclexfire2353]

I'm so glad Boba worked so hard at taking down a Gun train, which always has the same route, despite not being restricted to a track, in the middle of a desert, with a bunch of random speeders, with some colony of Tuskans, so he can have a lizard insert itself into Boba's brain, showing him a tree, experience the tree, have PTSD, find the tree, and bring back a branch. Thanks Jon, I'm so glad this is Star Wars now...

[@tljsucks1166]

Don't forget two Hutts making like eight poor guys carry them across a city so they could politely tell their "rival crime lord" to leave, and then back down right away. Also, #blackwookiesmatter.

[@Kai-ow9gi]

Jon and Dave tell the same stories

[@magustobias8827]

My guy, I love The Mandalorian; but even I'm like "uhhhn... this is pretty fucking awful, fam." (in relation to Book of Boba Fett)

[@LawlTwins]

@@magustobias8827 Mando is the same though man. Just lazy silly shit. Both shows aren't terrible or unwatchable at all, they just spit in our faces for what they deserve to be .

[@magustobias8827]

@@LawlTwins don't mix objective and subjective qualifiers, my guy ("terrible" and "unwatchable"). I'm not getting drawn into another discussion of Mandalorian's quality again, because I'm sick to death of repeating myself ("I really really enjoy it, but not only is it not perfect, it has some series issues at specific points.") only to be repeatedly challenged in a toxic manner (I hate using that term but it's the only one that applies), rather than a constructive and productive discussion. And I'm sorry, but as much as I love and respect MauLer, Rags, and Fringles, there were some pretty huge inconsistencies and inaccuracies among them with criticisms they had against The Mandalorian (conversely, did they point out flaws and issues I didn't notice? Yes. Were there issues that I picked up on myself? Definitely). But if you want a more comparable reason? One is that TBoBF is so ungodly slow paced with unecessary scenes that don't add investment or depth to characters and the narrative. 2 episodes, a total of 35-40 minutes of actual plot progression, and about an hour's worth of flashbacks with the Tusken Raiders, potentially leading to a more frustrating experience for the viewer. Whereas, at least with Mandalorian, if there was a no-plot episode, it was a no-plot episode from start to finish. (Another criticism I levy against Mandalorian; way too much filler for whats supposed to be a focused, 8 episode mini series VS a full 20-ish episode season where you have the room to breathe and slow down.) They're fucking and mucking around with Fett, they're wasting time with the Tusken Raider backstory that could have and should have just been done in the first episode, and the choreography is so dull and boring and poorly thought out. Mandalorian at its worst left me "ugh, fine, whatever." Fett is leaving me like Bad Batch did; "this has 3 episodes to get me on-boars or I'm bailing". (And yes, I recognize I am giving examples of subjective and objective take aways. Just shoveling out what I have at the ready)

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

"On the next episode of 'Dances with Sandpeople', Booby Feet must carve a spoon from an even larger spoon and then use it to defeat a new enemy that passes by at 8:47 every day (except Sundays)... the Flamethrower Bus!"

[@mark78750]

So well put!!!

[@Phoenix0F8]

Just wait for the dreaded Bazooka Trolley, or perhaps the Shotgun Funicular

[@tljsucks1166]

@@Phoenix0F8 And the nose-lizard floating lawnmower parade.

[@paulbutler4321]

Right after the Blunderbuss Tricycle gang arc.

[@mudcrab3420]

The 'Carved his own spoon... from a larger spoon' is my favourite quote from that show, but no one seems to pick it when I use it.

[@Adorni]

Wait, let me get this straight: This assassin is so committed to his job, that he's willing to risk death with a literal knife at his throat, even cursing Boba when asked for information. And yet when he's thrown to the Rancor, he's suddenly darkening his pants and willing to spill the beans? "You're going to kill to me? Screw you! Oh, the Rancor's going to kill me? Well I'll tell you everything!" Who wrote this?

[@Adorni]

Also, I don't recall if Twilek can be... "flesh colored," but they do _not_ look good that way- they're much better looking in greens, reds, and blues.

[@bane4318]

Well to me tht scene was, oh you dont fear your throat getting slit? How about getting eaten alive by a giant monster? I'm pretty sure you'd have to be a robot to not fear tht. So imo this is an invalid criticism.

[@bane4318]

@Nicholas Cage I have to disagree with you, Boba apparently doesnt torture, so the only threat the assassin faced was death. And like I said I'm pretty sure everyone in their right mind would prefer going out with a slit throat than in the jaws of a rancor.

[@HerohammerStudios]

@nicholascage3400 but death by rancor seems pretty quick all things considered. An actual torture scene would've been so much cooler. Don't even have to make it that graphic, just cut away and leave the torture up to your imagination or something

[@andrewcrain5422]

The droid conductor upon seeing Boba Fett. "fuck this shit I'm out"

[@EliasKaydanius]

the smartest character in Disney Star Wars

[@exhumedlegume8870]

Driver Droid: NOPE! Nopenopenopenope...

[@JavRexgteneg2pIift]

Best scene in the show xD

[@mikewilks4888]

They have taken absolutely no time to explain why Fett gives a fuck about these Tuskens, why he wants to be a crimelord, why he was ejected from the Sarlaac and immediately became a "good guy." This isn't Boba Fett.

[@Arko777777]

Agreed. It's the same shallow, good guy like Mando. Bobba wasn't like this...

[@sparkypack]

Disney injected him with the same stuff as Loki.

[@mikewilks4888]

@@Arko777777 the amount of arguments I've had on the BOBF subreddit with people just absolutely lapping this shit up is insane, I honestly don't understand how people are enjoying this.

[@Arko777777]

@@mikewilks4888 Sadly people are just way too emotionally invested and trained like a Pavlov's dogs on Star Wars visuals to care about quality of the story.

[@mikewilks4888]

@@Arko777777 I desperately wanted a good Boba Fett show, imagine just how gritty they could have made this, have Fett be honourable sure, but work up to it, don't just immediately have him acting like Jake Sully from Avatar.

[@kiriannapatrick7243]

I think we need Shad's analysis on the power and practicality of the sacred stick weapon.

[@MilkT0ast]

Tbh, that stick would hurt like hell if you get hit by the very tip even kill you if it hits you in the head, it's like a hammer. But, we have to assume that wood is much stronger than any earth wood, cuz it shatters storm trooper armour. But if it is that strong, how did he break it with his bare hands? Writing nowadays eh?

[@kiriannapatrick7243]

@@MilkT0ast yeah, I get that sticks hurt... But to use such in a reality of guns, laser rifles, and light sabers?

[@MilkT0ast]

@@kiriannapatrick7243 well yes...there is no explanation. The Tuscans have been living on tattoine for millennia it seems. Yet they are still tribal and nomadic. And they are raiders, yet dont use anything they raid. They didnt know what a speeder was until this moment in the cannon? They obviously tries to do a last of the mohicans or a last samurai take with he tuscans, but it doesn't make much sense.

[@Ceyx000]

The Glorified shillelagh? Much better than a carbine rifle/pistol, or energy blaster 🙄

[@petriew2018]

honestly it's not that bad overall. Either 'head' is perfectly adequate for use as a bashing weapon, the length is good for generating a good bit of momentum to put into the strike, and having effectively a counter-weight on either end would be somewhat helpful for keeping it under control while swinging. You could hurt somebody right proper with it. Some of them even have an integrated spear point for close in stabbing however, double weapons like that are always a bit iffy in terms of practical use. rarely are you ever in a situation that allows you to make full use of any fighting technique that would allow you to exploit such a thing that's not ritual combat. And both ends, while individually effective and visually different... are effectively the same thing in practical terms. So it's a little suspect as to why you'd invent something like that in the first place So from my perspective it's hella over-engineered for what it is and a bit impractical, but not ludicrously over designed the way a lot of scifi/fantasy weapons tend to be. For a nomadic, pre-gunpowder civilization like the Tuskens (at least in pre-disney lore any tech they had was scavenged, stolen or traded for, not natively made), it's what you'd call 'fine'

[@Rantsnrambles808]

Im pretty sure the gun train is a reference to Americans shooting bison in like the 1800s. Its 2022. The sand monsters who capture and beat women are actually the good guys.

[@Rantsnrambles808]

@@zogwort1522 "we thought the tuskan raiders were raiders"

[@SagaciousNihilist]

@@zogwort1522 So nice that they enslaved Boba on the spot, dragged him threw a desert like a captured animal (even though he was already on the brink of death, from his time in the Sarlacc) and starved him out while keeping him tied to a pole in the desert sun for days. They only learned to tolerate him, because he proves himself capable as a warrior for them, which was just a off chance thing, no way Boba knew how they would react after killing the sand creature, yet instead of escaping when he had the chance, he came back to them. If anything Boba must have been suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Its the only was to justify him seeing the Tuskens as allies and not as captors. Also, lets not overlook the complete disregard Tuskens have for their own tribe members, Tuskens were getting slaughtered left to right and the rest of the Tuskens gave no fucks, we didnt even see them grieving for their dead. The apologists of this shitty show keep insisting that Boba changed his ways, after spending his time with the Tuskens but at no point in the show do we actually see him going threw an ark where he decides or learns to change his ways, nor do we ever see the Tuskens themselves teaching him lessons in compassion. Yet, we're supposed to believe that Boba just spontaneously decided to stop being a cold-blooded bounty hunter after a lifetime of being set in his ways.

[@whitecreamymilk8436]

Boba fett is literally less evil then Jack sparrow

[@lizardmedia2257]

I hope they don’t kill it even more…

[@sexycenturion7074]

Han Solos Ghost: Boba was no hero. Carbonite poisoning ain't no walk in the sand with Padme.

[@darthdarth4297]

In the comics he murders and tortures people. He has some honor but for the most part he’s a criminal. Boba now: I do not torture

[@rickandrygel913]

*than

[@whitecreamymilk8436]

@@rickandrygel913 than do it yourself

[@mantha6912]

Disney's blueprint for quickly making a Star Wars show: 1. Wild West but in space 2. Copy stuff from other sci-fi IP's. 3. Badass-looking main character who has just enough luck to get him to the next episode. 4. Villain-of-the-week treatment. 5. Add a generous helping of key-jangling.

[@bocagelandscape]

*Add stepping stone to next consumable product*

[@axiss5840]

Some of this could actually be good, but they fuck it up.

[@tyo9954]

You say key jangling yet all you “fans” want is pure fan service. Even then people are unhappy that him escaping the sarlac is considered filler, what every fan has wanted to see since return of the Jedi

[@axiss5840]

@@tyo9954 There is a difference between 'LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS WE FOUND IN REDDIT'S TOP 10 STAR WARS COOL THINGS LIST!!!!!' and a well-crafted nod to character lore, it is 100% to do with execution.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

I'm so tired of this show masquerading as "space western". Its not a western. How much work do you think these writers and think-tanks have put in to go back and examine that time period? I am not and American. Maybe that is why I see the difference and lack of value in this. But goddamn, tribal rituals need to make sense and have significance to that tribe. What is the significance of that tree in the visions? What is the significance of that lizard? What does it mean to that tribe? Do they breed it? Is it a spirit animal? Is it worship it? Is it a sign of whatever God they believe in? WHY is that stick so valuable? WHY is that dance? What does it mean to that tribe? I'd appreciate it more if I knew what things meant rather than this is a thing that happens in "westerns". No! You cannot disguise you're crap as "oh, western!" Just like everything Disney touches, all the things are useless labels and "in name only".

[@wolfsoldner9029]

The old Boba from the Legends books got some interesting authoritarian views. In his eyes the Rebels were morally wrong, because they threaten the galactic authority which enables civilisation to exist.

[@corruptangel6793]

Also helped that Vader paid on time lol

[@TheWorldBelowDnD]

How is it not common knowledge that the rancor is dead? Hasn't it been 5 years since RotJ? For that matter, why do the twins wait 5 years to show up?!

[@JoaoPedro-ec9hm]

Maybe Fortuna was an underling to another hutt or something, wouldn't be suprisse if he had relationships with other hutts, specially since it always made me feel like their (hutts) criminal empire was familial clan kinda thing, would make sense if they only showed up to directly take the place after some outsider took it

[@Nick46289]

...I legitimately don't think that the writers understand that you need _a reason_ for you character to be using a melee weapon in a world where _guns exist._ Jedi lightsaber makes _some_ sense. It's _better_ than most guns. It can deflect a blaster bolt. Can a stick deflect a blaster bolt? No? _Use a blaster, then!_ God. It's... really not that hard to force a character to use a melee weapon, too! Especially in a space-fantasy setting. Just make it so blasters are ineffective against his foes. Make his foes giant regenerating monsters, so that he has to use a massive sword, to cleave through them. Or, like, a normal sword to cut off their heads. Or something! It's not hard! The possibilities are limitless!

[@absol_lute_zero9083]

Another simple option to make Boba us melee is they're in a desert so ammo and good condition guns are hard to come by. (Note: No idea if blasters need ammo)

[@HeirofDacia]

@@absol_lute_zero9083 Dunno blaster lore, but I know they can overheat. Wouldn't the temperature in that desert make them overheat quicker?

[@absol_lute_zero9083]

@@HeirofDacia That's...actually a very good option to make blasters a less effective option while still making them good for bad guys to use cause the gun train is probably cooled

[@GalacticArchive0]

When Boba derails the gun train, we find out that this is a part of the Pyke Syndicate's spice running operation. There is an insane amount wrong here, so I suppose I'll split it into two categories: Before and after Boba starts his interrogation of the Pykes. The first big question is why the Pykes are transporting spice across Tatooine on a train in the first place. Trains are a tricky thing in Star Wars, since starships are a lot more practical for long distance transport. The first appearance of a train in Star Wars actually made a lot of sense. In Clone Wars season 4, we are introduced to a planet with an extremely dangerous and stormy atmosphere, and are told if they try to land by flying in a ship, it would be destroyed. The characters (among them, a younger Boba Fett) need to take a space elevator to get on the planet's surface. Here, the train is just moving across open desert, and not even along a designated railway. The second big question is how much cargo this train could possibly be carrying when we see that literally every single car opens up so the Pykes inside can shoot stuff (for nough raisin). My third question is how the Pykes can be so accurate when firing from a vehicle moving so fast. At least the Tuskans have the excuse of being able to somewhat lead their shots (side note: I am confused as to the significance of that kid shining the light to those Tuskan snipers). Now we get to Boba's interrogation, which if you are familiar with 3rd party media is just horrendous dialogue. Boba asks the Pyke leader if they are transporting spice, to which he responds with "what is spice?". This is monumentally stupid since the Pyke Syndicate operate the largest spice running operation in the entire galaxy. It's like if someone asked an American "do you have a gun?" and they responded with "what are guns?". If the defense is that the Pyke is playing dumb, that doesn't work since this is dumb beyond believability in this universe. Anyone who says you need to watch shit like the Clone Wars to enjoy this is coping beyond belief. The Clone Wars isn't all that well written, but these shows make it look like a mastercraft.

[@willbeard4835]

Liked for Americans and gun reference. Thank you

[@isaiahsmith7123]

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[@tljsucks1166]

@@willbeard4835 Aren't guns the things you shoot at random people with while riding floating drug trains?

[@tljsucks1166]

@black bear I might have said the same if I hadn't already heard Boba Fett say "I'm a crime lord, he should be paying me."

[@marlinazul7786]

@@tljsucks1166 the best way to start a Saturday morning

[@devonhickey3302]

This is not a show about Boba Fett- it's a show about Brian Fett, childhood friend of Jake Skywalker. 🤷‍♂️

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Tusken Raider combing the desert: "We ain't found shit!"

[@kavinskysmith4094]

the best part about that, I think that was Tim Russ, Tuvok from voyager who said that lol like imagine him saying that to janeway lol

[@RedBzerkr]

*drags out comically large comb*

[@GrimgoreIronhide]

He told us to coom in the desert so we're cooming in it.

[@cozyku5968]

Is the show runners afraid of telling a story about a ruthless bounty hunter so they turn him into a good guy? They do know that a protagonist is not always good like Walter White. Like if they made a General Grivous show they will turn him good and not like him at all

[@stupendous7848]

I can see the flashbacks to Grievous's old love interest now

[@thejemstone9219]

Grievous gets stuck on Naboo and lives with the Gungans, learning their ways and how to fight like them and their culture, before making his way back to CIS and commencing the assault on Coruscant to kidnap the Chancellor.

[@KangarooMonkey]

Nah, Walter White was a good guy, just look at Hank, he always liked minerals and Walt played a part in permanently uniting him with minerals.

[@CMCAdvanced]

Don't give them ideas please

[@arturzinurov4781]

It’s a classic case of want a cake and eating it too.

[@RogueFox2185]

So we got Mad Max Tuskan Raiders and Boba tripping balls on a brain lizard, no wonder Luke wanted to get off that wasteland of a planet ASAP.

[@karloskemp01]

So... the female Tusken Raider is the only badass hand to hand combat skilled fighter and no one else. She didnt learn it from someone else?, she didnt teach other Raiders to fight and be just as good as her?! The hell she learn how to fight...On a FARM!!!

[@clevelandbrown4571]

She probably has the blood of Rey Palpatine... I mean Skywalker in her and she's just good at everything.

[@shiravalen]

Man, this fucking over-compensating nonsense trope. The truth at the heart of this is that the literal smaller-bodied gender still has the potential of a very respectable degree of physical prowess (particularly in fiction); but these mentally ill craptivists twist and exaggerate it so that the female is just always dominant, in face of the averages of literal reality. Obnoxious levels of cope. I'm just so done with this putrid human excrement continually served from up above.

[@josephjackson9679]

on a MOISTURE farm. With the advent of Kenobi, I think its safe to say Aunt Beru taught Female Tusken Raider in return for not getting Tusken Raider'd.

[@Indigo_Gaming]

The Book of Hobo Fett

[@sparkypack]

😆👍 this is as accurate as the tusken raider's contrived aim. Obi Wan lied to us.

[@nighthathfallen]

I swear I laughed almost every time the EFAP crew said "gun train". It's just such a great way to boil the whole ep down.

[@smallmetalowl3209]

🎵"People all over the world (everybody) Join hands (join) Start a gun train, gun train." 🎵

[@Darkness1984]

A train is defended with guns...Dont see how that is funny since its been done since the old west.

[@nighthathfallen]

​@@Darkness1984 well the very concept of such a normal looking train zooming through the no wheres of Tatooine is funny. The fact that it is a legitimate way to defend something has nothing to do with the humor. What's funny is the two word simplification of the episodes plot. That is to say the episode has almost no plot and it can be summed up by Jay just saying "gun train"

[@smallmetalowl3209]

@@Darkness1984 It was funny because, contrary to the usual trope, the train is actually portrayed as the aggressor here, inviting the inference that shooting up native camps is what the train is out there to do, instead of normal train things like hauling cargo or passengers. Ergo, "gun train".

[@calumbarry1829]

@@Darkness1984 they weren't defending the train though, they were just shooting random dudes, which tbh as long as they're raiders I couldn't care less about. Outside of the EU Tuskens are shown to be utter barbarians, they would absolutely attack this train even if it did nothing to them. However the idea of them driving around this one route all the time shooting the same guys is really funny. Like why tf did they not just use a ship?

[@spiteforge]

Did anyone else notice how the concept art from the end credits has leagues-better costume designs than the ones they actually used?

[@mpw26]

C'mon guys, it only Disney and Star Wars, for a project like this you cant expect some Disney-level........hmmm

[@xpurplethighs7596]

Thats what I said in the last one, the super legendary pokey assassins had a cool looking helmet, but in the episode just ski masks

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

There's two parts of Star Wars. One is supposed to be ugly and disgusting. Aliens, food, animals. Disney won't do that. Because toys have to be sold. Everything has to be cute. The only reason Jabba the Hutt amd the Gammorean Guards look like they do is because its part of the original SW and for brand recognition. If it wasn't, they'd have changed it to something cuter. The second part of SW is the cool stuff. And the contrast between the two halves makes it a great world. Stormtroopers look cool but they're evil. Disgusting aliens turn out to be likeable heroes. Also, cool and intimidating. Disney cannot be scary. Because we cannot scare the embryos we want as our fan-base. Anakin slices children in half, Luke's parents are charred black when he returns home. Compare that with enslaved horse-dogs, Porgs and Baby Yoda.

[@Zero_2500]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 funnily enough, Lucas’s grittier OT sold more merchandise than both the younger aimed prequels or the Disneyfied sequels. Sometimes there are advantages to not being a giant multinational corporation with a million producers and other assorted bureaucrats etc. Disney TV reeks of “written by committee”

[@Neo2266.]

42:05 Although that rake is stupid, there was actually another scene earlier in the episode where a bantha is dragging a huge comb behind itself, and you can see it uncover one of those water seeds. It's still funny they're literally doing the spaceballs meme

[@TheSharkIsWorking_23]

A couple years ago was working Art Dept on a film. One of the designers told me she passed on The Lion King to work on our current project. Asked her why? After working on The Jungle Book, she refused to work with Jon Favreau ever again. Adding he was one of the worst directors she had ever worked with. Reason being, the guy will openly steal credit for things he had nothing to do with. Example, designing and building sets. Most directors will always give credit to crew members for the hard work and creativity put into building productions. Even in collaborations, directors will credit those who came up with the creative ideas and solutions. Favreau would brag and take the credit for non-directorial work claiming the work as his own creativity, and he would do this on set. No cameras on him, taking creative ownership directly in front of those who he should be crediting.

[@HerohammerStudios]

At this point I'm willing to believe Iron Man 1 was good despite him and not because of him

[@MundaneThingsBackwards]

lmfao. The Sopranos episode of him where he played himself and stole a main character's story was accurate, apparently.

[@willbeard4835]

Bill burrs character in mandalorian is more evil than this new boba

[@rascoehunter3608]

Since the show is using flashbacks extensively throughout the episodes they might stupidly show how Boba gave Fennec a robotic stomach. Just some food for thought.

[@sparkypack]

ugh.. I'm so done with those flashbacks. 😔

[@rascoehunter3608]

@@sparkypack I agree with you on that. The flashbacks take up a lot of screen time that should be used to flesh out Boba's criminal empire storyline.

[@ibleminen]

@@sparkypack and we most likely will get a flashback to how boba got slave 1 back and so on.

[@sparkypack]

@@rascoehunter3608 Yeah, there would be so much potential, 😩😩😩. But no, Felony and Faverou want to focus on a ridiculous and stupid gun train to simulate a wild west movie. As Mauler pointed out, it's not even possible to stand on top of a high speed train.

[@sparkypack]

@@ibleminen I hope they make it quick.

[@zachpulido5972]

Ok I get it, the Pikes want to transport their spice……but why a gun train, and not, a space ship?

[@swfan24]

Does no one find it strange that Boba has gone from well-trained, ruthless guy who hunts people down for money to a full-blown SJW? This episode beats you over the head with the fact that the sand people are basically just Native Americans and Boba is helping them take back their "ancestral homelands". It's really cringe imo

[@shiravalen]

Pretty much. Just tells me that the writer is a Pod Person. These agendas are becoming more and more palpable, and less easy to be gaslit away.

[@rattusrattus761]

I'm reminded of a moment in Blackadder Goes Fourth: "Don't forget your stick, George." "Oh no, sir, wouldn't want to face a German gun without this."

[@matthewpeterson2317]

“If in the first act you have hung a gun train on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don’t put it there.” - Bobarnicus Bagleton

[@HSnake5]

Yeah, wearing thick black robes in the blazing hot desert is a real thing. The idea is that the cloth is thick enough that the heat from the outside doesn't actually reach your skin, and it also keeps the moisture from your sweat within. It's certainly not pleasant but it's a smart alternative to scorching and dehydrating under the sun. Plus, the nights in tatooine *should* be unbelievably cold, like any desert, so having those thick clothes will also help keep your body heat trapped inside.

[@jonnywaldis8275]

Is there any advantage to the robes being black rather than white? Asking out of pure interest, didn't even reach that part of the video yet.

[@amps.11]

@@jonnywaldis8275 talking about irl: in terms of heat the colour doesn't make enough difference to matter. Black is more practical there like in any other place, like not looking dirty as easily. Also bedouins use what they have and tend to be very traditional, and most of their sheep have always had black wool.

[@xyxxanx9810]

@@jonnywaldis8275 It´s a question of heat-absorption and emission. Bright colors reflect heat better, but they also emit it more slowly, meaning that they will heat up slower but will contain the heat longer, making the whole garment heat up. If you use darker colors, the outside will heat up quickly, but the heat won´t spread as much, it is given off to the surroundings once it´s hotter than the air around it. So if you combine a thick outer layer in dark colors with a brighter inner layer, the outer layer will get hot and the inner layer will keep the heat off you. Tl;dr: In a desert everything gets hot, dark clothes will get hot faster but also emit that heat faster once they are hotter than the surrounding air.

[@jonnywaldis8275]

Thank you both for replying, I always operated under the simple paradigm of white reflecting and heat absorbing heat. Never thought retention and spread would also be affected, quite fascinating and maybe useful irl too.

[@yaboiportch]

Ah, it's another "people using trains in a universe in which starships are ubiquitous and efficient" episode of Star Wars

[@pizzatime4700]

I am of the opinion that trains are not stupid too much because for large urban areas or even distances between 2 towns or cities a large train is easier and over all faster to get there and unload and get back then a star ship based on design alone but for the random fuckin desert yeah sorry mate no space dice

[@MatecaCorp]

Somehow you guys hated this episode less than I did. On top of everything the EFAP crew talked about, it’s literally just a wild west Native American vs “Iron Horse” thing. There’s all the wild west tropes imaginable with the thinnest low budget Star Wars skin possible. It’s bs.

[@Edmar_Fecler]

And thats bad... _why?_

[@CaptainCastle]

All of the episodes are dude. They bend over backwards or just ignore established things (like starships and speeders) to pastiche their favorite spahetti western.

[@HerohammerStudios]

@@Edmar_Fecler it's certainly a bit uninspired

[@KingArthur39]

I don't see how that's bad. Star Wars always was inspired by Western Troupes

[@CaptainCastle]

@Arthur you don't see how it's bad that they're contriving circumstances and creating insane plot holes so that they can ape old stories? Then I don't know what to tell you dude, enjoy your crap writing.

[@socialistshirker]

I'm confused. Does the entire civilisation arm itself with sticks from the same tree, or was the tree in the dream realm and the stick is some sort of psychic manifestation?

[@MilkT0ast]

Probably multiple trees out there. Its copying the native americans "vision quest" or "spirit walk" But instead of finding your spirit animal u find a good stick? I guess.

[@fluff6811]

@@MilkT0ast The funniest part to me is that the properties of the stick are acknowledged in the show to be poor by comparison to other materials. They coat it with materials designed to strengthen it as well as shaving it down to a proper useable size. The stick is entirely redundant and basically means nothing, the tuskans don’t even use the stick, they technically use the coated material on top of the stick as their weapon because they know the stick is a really poor choice in this universe. I get what they were going for but they pulled it off in a way that makes the entire process pointless.

[@dragonknightleader1]

I always assumed the gaffi stick was made out of whatever salvage was available to make a mace.

[@shiravalen]

The writers don't know either.

[@gwoody4003]

Boba Fett, according to literary canon, WAS a kinda dirty fighter. He played by GTA Online rules. Any gadget, any advantage, any OP weapon, vehicle or underhanded tactic was employed. His first encounter w Han Solo, he snuck up behind him dressed like a bum and drugged him. He always got his target, and everyone knew he would do whatever it takes. He was all buisness and no emotion, just effort and dedication. That mayor... Boba would have went in solo at night, and nobody would know what happened till they found the bodies in the AM. And the Hutts would have had a replacement for Jabba on the way as soon as they found out he was dead. Bin Fortuna would never have sat on that throne, he would have either capitulated to the Hutts or been killed for sure. The scene w the Hutts was good... cus sending assassins, then making threats and offers simultaneously would be their style. They play verbal chess and test the nerve of each other and those they deal with regularly and you gotta learn how to deal with them on those terms. They are a bunch of bluster but also not... its strange. They appreciate the value of a ruthless clever opponant, but also trust nobody, not even each other. They probably would have offered to make Boba a vassal rather than waste time and resources fighting, risking the buisness prospects and stability in fear the other Hutts would see the weakness and sieze upon it. But for sure, they would have sent assassins, then a negotiation laden with flattery and threats st the same time. And then theres Black Sun.... Crimson Dawn in the Disney universe.... they would have also siezed upon the opportunity the power vacuum presented. And the Hutts feared and respected Black Sun over even the Empire. I hope they are featured (correctly) in this series... I hope we get Prince Xixor.

[@shiravalen]

The thing is that a lot of that is implicated in merely being a bounty hunter. You have to be ruthless enough to collect on even sympathetic bounties, or you're probably in the wrong business. There's no excuse for this portrayal of Boba. This man was not a bounty hunter.

[@HabetVI]

Metal: "you did the same move three times, did anything change? Did you get better?" Every single time that I see a bad "training montage" like that I'm reminded of the last samurai (the one with Tom cruise, if I'm not mistaken) where he trains with the other samurai and gets better, but is constantly losing to them, until one of the younger ones walks up to him and says: too many mind. Mind the enemy Mind the field Mind the sword Too many mind No mind And then Tom takes a deep breath and fights again, this time with a slow-mo effect and he doesn't win, but gets a draw. Such a clever and simple way to show progression and understanding of the way the samurais fought. Nowadays it's just CLANK CLANK head nod, you have learned everything I had to teach.

[@Random_Tangent]

20:42 "do you think he'll hate Luke" Jedi killed his father in front of him, it was his whole motivation to become a Bounty Hunter and avenge his father, of course he's going to be friends with Luke and the jedi. Duh.

[@dw5453]

I still can't get past the fact that Boba is now an old dude who wants to be a nice guy. Turning the Sand People into noble savages with Boba going all Dances-with-Wolves makes this recharacterization even more confusing and dumb. Did everybody forget who Boba was in the movies?

[@wrthgdrver710]

Not liking Boba's characterization in this show is enough to get you called a "toxic fanboy" by the usual suspects, so most sane people are just leaving this show alone.

[@Darkness1984]

A side character with no character to speak of who for some reason got popular and then went out like a fool you mean?

[@wrthgdrver710]

@@Darkness1984 He had enough character for people to recognize what he should have been like in the show. This just seems weirdly off putting for him to be the same guy from the OT.

[@petriew2018]

it's even more bizarre when you realize Boba Fett in this show is canonically not even 40 yet. Thanks to the prequel trilogy we KNOW he's not that much older than Luke Skywalker And thanks to the Mandalorian we've seen just how old Luke Skywalker is in this particular continuity, so there's no debating this is a massive problem in the world building isn't is great to have writer that 'respects the lore'?

[@someguy9496]

@@wrthgdrver710 “characterization” he literally didn’t want han solo to be killed or tortured. He also just did his job, he never killed innocents or torture anyone. Plus we still see he is somewhat ruthless when he threatens to kill the rodian

[@alk3rio97]

This whole thing is to try and relate the sand people, who are slavers by the way, to native americans

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Some Native American groups were slavers.

[@manofwarandmusic501]

The gecko is part of him now. All the sand people are connected by the Gecko. Bubba will consult the gecko in his mind in times of need... Bubba: "They have shields, should I use the Jetpack?" Mind Gecko: "Use the knee rockets Bubba." Bubba: "But I'm in point blank range?" Mind Gecko: "USE THE KNEE ROCKETS BUBBA."

[@fatman2124]

Disney: We're erasing the expanded universe. Also Disney: Here's Black Krrsantan, the disgraced Wookie bounty hunter from the expanded universe. Please clap! Me:🤨

[@mrshmuga9]

Erasing it just gives them the excuse to not follow continuity.

[@KingArthur39]

He is not from the old EU, he is from the Disney Canon

[@fatman2124]

@@KingArthur39 I stand corrected, you're right, he's from either the Vader comic or the Aphra comic (if I remember correctly the stories intertwine at a certain point). For some reason it felt like I read those things over decade ago despite them being only 4-5 years old. I remember the Vader comic started off pretty good but then it nose-dived really bad.

[@hiverhythm]

I never finished aphra or Vader but I remember that they were good. I like how that wookie shows up to do nothing. Let’s just stand around and look cool.

[@scotiej]

Notice how Max Reebo is so stiff compared to how he was in ROTJ almost forty years ago? Gotta love that new technology.

[@theblacknothing]

That's Disney Star Wars. It looks like everything is missing one or two levels of detail. A good example are the Twi'leks. In the Lucas films their head tails could be styled by wrapping them around their necks, draping them over their shoulders, or letting them hang freely behind their heads, They looked like fleshy appendages of an alien species. in Disney's works they're thin, stiff, look brittle, and in some cases look like a hat stuck on an actor.

[@rogerpuzzitiello5175]

Can these shows commit to a morally ambiguous character? I was actually rooting for Boba to secretly steal a bike (or all of them) from the aliens with no risk to his safety, leaving the people in the bar to their fate. Maybe the aliens were able to follow him and destroy the sand peoples camp during the attack while everyone was distracted, making Boba realize he should have intervened in some way. You don’t need to go Walter White levels of complexity, just something interesting. Also, the vision inducing lizard was hilarious, more of that weird stuff, please!

[@bumblebee1300]

And you’d think the deadly bounty hunter boba fett would have taken the weapons from those thugs especially if one of them had a BLASTER PISTOL I’ve heard the argument “but those shock sticks are too weak” like have you seen what they do with just regular ass sticks?

[@ubermorph1000]

The Clone Wars show made boba even worse

[@darthdarth4297]

These shows can do morally ambiguous characters. Clone wars did it pre Disney. But now they want green good mando

[@bumblebee1300]

@@darthdarth4297 exactly I want a genuine villain story and I guarantee we’ll see more storm troopers for boba to kill with “respect”

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

I feel like there’s a way to write Boba as a protagonist that doesn’t just transform him into a generic good-doing hero while not going overboard in showing how apathetic and sinister he can be, the easiest probably making his adversaries equally or perhaps more diabolical than him and leading the audience to even question which of the two sides is more agreeable in an interesting kind of way Even just the notion that he wants to be a “Crimelord” as Boba himself embarrassingly puts it sounds like there would be some ethical dilemmas to follow with that. Instead, this being Disney, they’re probably likening it more to him just becoming a king to rule benevolently over this ragtag kingdom or something, rather than dealing in narrative with the oppressive or dark elements that actual organized crime would obviously have. They’ll just opt for a sanitised, romanticized rendition, it seems

[@castleaether1965]

1:03:18 Lol Mauler. It will be: Female raider leans in to whisper lovingly in Bobba's ear ... "HURRRRRR URGK URGK URGK URGK URGK HURRRRRRRRK!"

[@dubiousdolphin4470]

That raider was combing the desert I’m dead.

[@ubermorph1000]

Watch them try to explain that the sand people do it to look for animals or something

[@dubiousdolphin4470]

@@ubermorph1000 they’re playing Pokémon go and looking for more machamps

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

We ain't found shit!

[@bocagelandscape]

Also, the sand people seem to live in a very small community, yet they're being blasted like they're spawnable npcs. I know they put in the throwaway line somewhere about there being many tribes, but still they don't show them having contact or calling for secondary help anywhere.

[@tljsucks1166]

No ones ever really gone...

[@bocagelandscape]

@@tljsucks1166 Tusken force ghosts should definitely become a thing

[@darwinxavier3516]

@@bocagelandscape Anakin shows up. "Oh good, now I can SUPER kill you as ghosts."

[@tljsucks1166]

@@bocagelandscape Or they could make them come to this timeline from a different timeline.

[@bocagelandscape]

@@tljsucks1166 I definitely see that happening for gender non specific black tusken taskmaster.

[@agustinfandino8950]

I NEED the gun train to become a meme. The concept is fucking hilarious

[@tljsucks1166]

And the nose lizard. My friends have snorted some weird shit, but that's a new level.

[@Darkness1984]

Dont know whats so hilarious about a train thats beeing defended with guns...

[@tljsucks1166]

@@Darkness1984 Its hilarious when each car has several machine guns, making very little room for cargo. The train shot down a bunch of random people for no reason as it went by and kept going. That information led us to believe (at first) that it was literally a train that went through the world shooting every one. We get the context later, but the context barely helps at all. If they are worried about the train being attacked, why would they provoke random people? The guns wouldn't help if an armed ship attacked it. If trains are actually a common thing on Tatooine, it would make more sense to disguise it by not having turrets in every car. If they aren't, don't use a fucking train.

[@Darkness1984]

@@tljsucks1166 Well the pikes dont take risks and sand people are know to be raiding transports and such so when they saw them they shoot them before they get the chance to collect and attack, simple and easy.

[@tljsucks1166]

@@Darkness1984 They don't take risks? They put a bunch of spice on a literal train speeder with turrets on the sides. The train would have no defense against a ship. If they didn't want to take risks, they should use ships to transport it. That way they have it hidden, and in a flying and much faster vehicle with weapons. If they are worried about the sand people, they should either ignore them or circle and finish them off. Driving by and killing some of them but leaving the rest provoked is retarded.

[@newtthegamer3103]

I feel like it’s super out of character for Boba to not just leave when he steals the speeders. What’s in it for him to help them?

[@ubermorph1000]

George Lucas thought it was a good idea to have Boba Fett go through character growth making. It completely ruined him

[@pwnzorofretards]

@@ubermorph1000 I don’t think George had any say in this show

[@ubermorph1000]

@@pwnzorofretards I was trying to say what George did with Boba in the clone wars tv show, my bad

[@petriew2018]

@@ubermorph1000 George had basically nothing to do with that either

[@shiravalen]

His sympathy and interest in their customs is contrived bullshit (which would make him a poor bounty hunter and a poor crimelord) that the writer wants to insert because he feels like it. Someone like Boba would not only gtfo, but probably come back eventually to fuck them up. The arbitrariness of circumstances matter exactly zero to a bounty hunter or mafioso -- it's all just ruthless 'us and them'. It doesn't matter if you 'could have conceivably been on the other side', you're on your team, period.

[@pumpernickelrye9736]

What is Boba's motivation for staying with the Tusken Raiders? You would think that once he got a speeder, he would head straight to civilization to find where he parked his ship or contact someone to get him off the planet. You can tell he's a boring character because he seems to have no urgency of leaving, suggesting he doesn't have much else going on his life that he prioritizes. You'd think at the very least he would want to get back to bounty hunting and getting paid rather than sniffing lizards.

[@ffffdsd]

Because how else are the writers going to force their shit message onto the audience?

[@shiravalen]

Yes, his motivation is the 2022 bleeding heart, guilt-ridden sensibilities projected onto him by his hack, mentally ill writer (even though it's contradictory to the very profession of being a bounty hunter and fulfilling 'morally unsavory' bounties). Apparently Boba Fett is a Star Wars incarnation of ever-smiling Buddha, or something. Buddha Fett.

[@SSJSuperbob]

Why didn't they make a series about a bounty hunter doing their job? You'd get lots of action, detective work, cool environments, moral conundrums, gadgets/tech, and cool alien species. Wouldn't that have been easy?

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

The amount of cope I've seen coming out of the Favroids regarding this episode is unreal. There were so many people in Doomcock's video on Boba Fett being like "zOMG THE SECOND EPISODE IS SOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THE FIRST AND IT REALLY SHOWS THAT THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE THIS THE TRUE STORYTELLING OMG YES FAVREAU JIZSM ALL OVER MY FACE". You give these consoomers something that is mediocre AF and they'll choke on it on their eagerness to swallow it down, it's unbelievable. Favroids actually think this is better than the sequel trilogy. It's not. It's the same quality, the same energy, the same pointless BS.

[@Zero_2500]

It’s like TFA over and over with these shows. Anything short of overt disrespect is praised. It’s kind of a “giving stale bread to a starving man” situation. If this was a 20 episode season they might be more justified in all the fluff but not with 6 or whatever

[@BazztheBazz]

I'm really hoping Gun Train becomes an essential part of EFAP lore.

[@milofettpants8229]

This show baffles me; It isn’t completely god awful, but I don’t think there’s a single thing that I could point to as being well written.

[@m626m]

38:01 Yes. Boba memorized the most recent Tattoine Sand Express train week day schedule.

[@Arcane_10_out_of_10]

42:05 "Tell them to comb the desert you hear me? Comb the desert!" - President Skroob; Spaceballs (1987)

[@sparkypack]

Now that is a throwback, and a really good one.

[@Liam-to1mv]

You know they're really lucky Bib Fortuna didn't get a new monster to sit in the cave down there.

[@soupycolumbo6977]

Still waiting for Boba Fett to show up in this Boba Fett show. I don't know who this other guy is supposed to be, but he ain't Boba Fett.

[@destro47]

I don't understand why the Tusken Raiders don't just move away from the gun train route? They live in tents. Not buildings, tents. There are no structures. Are they lingering around because there's a massive deposit of water filled hardened sand worm poop spheres?

[@HowVeryOdd]

Returning here after seeing episode 3. You massives are in for a WILD ride, in all the worst ways.

[@mattherron173]

I think watching you guys for so long has helped me start to see the things you see. You keep bringing up things that I was thinking while watching the show. An issue I have with the desert melons is how easy they are to find. They're just inches below the sand and the prisoners are able to find several of them in a short amount of time. If this really is the case then we should be seeing hundreds of these things all over the place. Sand shifts over time and there's no reason these things wouldn't be uncovered by the wind. Also when Boba says the assassin doesn't need his head, the guard pulls out a knife. Cutting a head off with a knife would be very messy and extremely painful for the victim. If the assassin is afraid of the Rancor then he should absolutely be afraid of the unbearable pain that he would go through getting his head slowly cut off. This is something ISIS would do, If Boba wants to rule with respect rather than fear, this certainly isn't the way to do it. In the words of Rick Sanchez: "just give me a gun, I'll kill myself."

[@Neo2266.]

The handles on the speeders get PUSHED FORWARD to go? The inertia of acceleration will just make you pull them back, you will have a hard time accelerating with this thing, what a stupid design

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

I just picture suits at Disney scrolling through their heavily censored, highly filtered news and social media feeds looking for a story, and they come across an article about Natives talking about their ancestral claims, and the guy/lady who finds it stands up and shouts, "Guys, we've got one: Today, we care about native claims!" And then they just write a story about it without really thinking about how it plays into the established universe.

[@issueacomplaint1367]

Maybe the reason Boba's character change is due to the lizard eating his brain and laying eggs in his head.

[@lordjimbo2]

As far as I'm concerned, Robot Chicken Boba is canon compared to this one.

[@DiZtheJedi]

So, the most sensible way for this season to end is to reveal that Boba Fett is dead and his body has been controlled by the lizard the whole time. Sweet mother of god, what's happened to Star Wars?

[@ReaLMoisan]

I can't believe EFAP missed the Space Balls, "combing the desert" joke. When Space Balls did it, it was satire and a joke. Tragically, 35 years later, Star Wars is actually doing it sincerely.

[@Flash-id7lu]

One of the problems I think in the case of this show when it comes to Disney is they are abusing what they know the fans know. They know that die hard fans will know that in the old EU, Boba does eventually have a redemption arc when he trains Jaina Solo and helps with the Vong invasion. Rather then telling these good stories they just want to rush straight to the part where he is the good guy for whatever reason to build their SW MCU in the most messy, but what they at least deem acceptable, manner. At least for this show idk why they keep doing this with almost any villain now.

[@Ardejas]

Who needs 30+ years of character development.

[@corruptangel6793]

Boba doesn't really have a proper redemption arc, he trains Jaina so she can kill the man who killed his daughter. And he knows having Jacen's own family be the ones to take him out would be a far greater revenge then if he did the deed himself. He is still very much his own agent to the very end. What semblance of a redemption arc he does get was regarding his family. The pregnant wife he abandoned, the daughter who hated him for it and spent years trying to kill him (It's what ultimately got her killed) and the granddaughter who was raised to despise him, but gradually forgives him and grants him a second chance to make up for everything he did to his family.

[@sherrybomb3309]

So... like... do the raiders re-use the same lizard? Has this lizard been in all of their brains? Do they get a new lizard every time they need someone to get a stick? I don't know which is more ridiculous.

[@buetiniedermeier]

Just watched BoBF episode 3 and I kinda thought it couldn't get worse but I almost fell off my hometrainer because I had to laugh so hard. 🤣 Can't wait for your take of it. 😘

[@mantha6912]

...Wasn't there a joke in Spaceballs about raking the sand?? Why the fuck...you know what, screw this show.

[@rw7118]

You would also think the dogs would be the first to chase after the weird sand frog but apparently the can't hunt or guard so there just useless

[@Ardejas]

All I know is OG Boba Fett brought the scattered Mandalorians back together and became their leader on Mandalor. Filoni made that impossible for the Disney Version. So it's like their trying to do it with Sand People on Tatooine instead.

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

That's just sad.

[@Metroid51]

Half of this show is boba fett shitty crime lord and other half Lawrence of tatooine