Everyone Hates Rey for One Simple Reason

[@ideatheory]

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[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

Did you ever watch Auralnauts Star Wars?

[@andrewdutton3831]

Good commentary, but...ease up on the dynamic (vibrating, vertical hold, pulsating) editing.

[@ideatheory]

​@@andrewdutton3831will keep that in mind. Thank you.

[@rbu2136]

Play the interview where she has BANNED her daughter from seeing Disney animation films because they are not feminist enough. She can take her don’t hold my hand preachy girl boss up her bony axx.

[@silentwitness536]

"There isnt a male mary sue". cough cough. Johnny Cash song "A Boy Named Sue".

[@PlanetZoidstar]

The worst thing Rey ever did was negate the accomplishments of those who came before her, taking the credit for their struggles and sacrifices. SHE is the one to destroy Palpatine forever, SHE (a Palpatine) is the one to take on the Skywalker name (a bloodline that is now EXTINCT), SHE gets Han's iconic Millenium Falcon (and learns to handle it BETTER than him.). She makes Han's sacrifice meaningless by failing to save Kylo, even though he used the Force to revive him, she does not return the gesture. Rey claims to be ALL the Jedi despite having the bare minimum of training OR insight into what the Jedi even ARE. She has no personal stake in the story beyond wanting to survive, her ties to the other characters are underdeveloped and she never feels like a fully realised character. Everything is just handed to her, and everyone else that came before her, ultimately turn out to be failures.

[@hellshing4866]

Imagine saying Rey is a better pilot than Han. 😂😂 Second of all, Rey couldn't return the favor to Kylo. 😅 like she could barely survive on her own. Kylo gave his life for her, knowing what it meant. Do you realize how dumb the cycle would get? Kylo dies to resurrect Rey who then dies to resurrect Kylo? 😅😅😅 Also, Rey is all the Jedi bc she is the last one. Luke had 4 years of training (not even complete years) and he was the last Jedi at the end of RotJ 😂

[@Espartanica]

@@hellshing4866 Laughing emojis don't make your argument any stronger. Especially when it's an argument so ignorant.

[@hellshing4866]

@@Espartanica I didn't use them for this, but sure. You intend to develop your thoughts or you're incapable of it?

[@Espartanica]

@@hellshing4866 The irony is palpable.

[@hellshing4866]

Fantastic. This brought so much to the discussion @@Espartanica

[@Dovah_Slayer]

"I don't believe in weakness in people" and that right there is why Everyone will hate Rey until the end of time that's not only a horrible way to write a character it's fucking stupid to even consider that OF COURSE people have weaknesses it's what makes us human Rey having absolutely no weakness makes her a boring character

[@davidcottrell1308]

and insufferable.

[@Dovah_Slayer]

@@davidcottrell1308 that too

[@Свободадляроссии]

I mean it could work but it wasn't earned. She was just perfect from the beginning for no reason

[@davidcottrell1308]

@@Свободадляроссии EXACTLY.

[@fantasywind3923]

She probably would have worked better as a villain, a sith apprentice type haha, she already fits with that arrogance :).

[@Свободадляроссии]

Ridley's claim about the mary sue term being sexist, man that was dumb

[@SpFlash1523]

She doesn't even explain why she thinks that.

[@inazuma3gou]

Ridley trained hard for the choreography. Rey.... didn't.

[@Bagman07]

I know she may not spend much time on the internet to know. But, there's a male equivalent of Marie sue is Gary stu

[@abraham2172]

​@@SpFlash1523 Because the name Mary Sue was the name of a woman.

[@seamusoneill5765]

Yeah… I think that’s when the audience facepalmed and felt slightly less sorry for her having to play such a hollow role

[@ShamanSage]

Finn was easily my fav new Sci-Fi character when first revealed A stormtrooper that self-actualizes and gives himself identity and fights against his own brainwashing/mind-torture to become himself? Awesome! But they didn't really delve into any of that, and made him rey's sidekick

[@jakexou812]

His only role in StarWars was to scream "REY!!!!!!!"

[@Elerad]

Yeah, I was looking forward to the idea of an ex-Stormtrooper finding a new path. Instead I got a guy who existed to be the butt of every joke and to swoon over how marvelous Rey was.

[@davidwinslett8168]

He defects after seeing a fellow trooper die and he freaks out. Flash forward 5 minutes and he opens fire on his fellow troopers while escaping without any moral dilemas or second thoughts. Instantly undermining his character.

[@OperationSpider]

And zoomers want him to be a gay bff 🤮🤮

[@ideatheory]

I really did wish he had more depth. The potential was already there.

[@solalgreatman]

I hated her even more when her movie was announced. Because the premise of that movie is going to be her rebuilding the Jedi order after it fell, let me remind you that this is literally *Luke’s* storyline and now they’re just giving it to Rey after she already robbed Anakin of destroying the Sith. Now the stories and struggles of both Anakin and Luke are pretty pointless considering Rey just comes along and does both of what they were supposed to do better than them.

[@dkirs]

While being a Palpatine, don't forget that

[@generalzod7959]

I think that's pretty much Kathy's plan: erase the storyline and accomplishments of Luke and his father. Take George's story and hijack it and claim it as her own.

[@solalgreatman]

@@generalzod7959 like mark hamill said “it’s completely new because now they have a woman doing it”

[@moonman4207]

The Rouge Squadron film that was announced a while back isn’t happening anymore so maybe if we’re lucky the same fate will befall this film as well.

[@hellshing4866]

Okay, she gonna have Luke's SL but that was sort of doomed to happen since the NJO couldn't really be done. But she didn't rob Anakin of anything. 😅 Anakin brought balance to the Force, Luke enabled him and Rey maintained it.

[@jayone8891]

Time doesn't make a poorly written, insufferable Mary Sue character somehow good.

[@MuttonTheDragon]

Yet time got people to appreciate the prequels. I wouldn’t be surprised if the zoomers took to the sequels the same way millennials took to the prequels.

[@RanRayu]

@@MuttonTheDragon i am pretty sure the people that disliked the prequels still do. and if they hate it less than they did, it might have something to do with seeing the sequels and realising how bad it could have been.

[@bigdoubleu117]

​@@MuttonTheDragonNot really. This is ultimately a false equivalent. Many who grew up when the OT came out did go on to like the Prequels and the generation of kids that grew up with the Prequels mostly liked them as well. The only real thing that time maybe had a part of was to allow all the people who liked the Prequels to finally voice their opinions. * IMPORTANT * You have to remember, social media and online discourse either didn't exist yet or was in its infancy during the Prequel era. Now however, toddlers have access to phones, internet, social media, and online discourse. And the love for the Sequels is no where close to the others. The kids growing up with the Sequels have the chance to voice their opinions in real time. But overwhelmingly don't. Or they're just more interested in Marvel's MCU.

[@davidcottrell1308]

ha ha ...WORD!

[@SchultzDorinda]

@@MuttonTheDragon On top; of the previous answers, one most also note that The Clone Wars has also provided some good needed context for Anakin's evolution and PTSDs They were not mentioned in the movies, because the Jedi are terrible at Psychology.

[@hokutoshinken-chrisarmstro131]

Seeing these clips of Daisy confirm that she is so delusional about her character. Others like John and Oscar could see exactly all the crap right in front of them and what was going on with their characters.

[@Kilo_11]

Because they both did nothing after the first film. Should be obvious to Daisy the films are ass when she is the only one doing anything in the film

[@BiriBiri925]

You don't even have to look for behind-the-scenes footage, just look at Oscar's face when he has to say "somehow Palpatine returned." You can literally see how embarrassed he is at this moment. He is a good actor, but he cannot hide the shame that he is the one who has to say this.

[@ningkon3787]

​@@Kilo_11 she's probably never watched star wars at all

[@karthu1993]

Producers are reluctant to invest in women led stories. With men throwing around "Mary Sues" like it's nothing, I won't be surprised if we don't get to see women led stories in the future.

[@ruledtrendy5066]

​@@karthu1993yeah right, since Jennifer Lawrence was the first ever female lead in an action film there's been no other women led stories 🙄

[@baronvg]

Geez, Daisy Ridley comes off arrogant and clueless. No semblance of humility or humbleness. It would’ve been easy to just criticize the Rey character and not the actress but she squashed that, didn’t she? The very least they could’ve done was have Rey lose a damn limb!!! Lol

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

​@@TaurusInvictaSo women can't rock cool battle scars because they're women? You sound like you don't think women can do things. There's a word for people who think women are inferior, y'know.

[@haylesouth5485]

@@theguylivinginyourwalls That's not what their saying. Their are trying to say Daisy just keeps saying that Rey is a great character and saying Mary Sue is sexist

[@supermaximglitchy1]

She doesn’t deserve that privilege

[@billmcdermott9647]

Well that’s what he’s saying she suffers no battle scars Luke and Anakin both lost a hand …she lost nothing @@theguylivinginyourwalls

[@macflod]

Yeah- i don’t think Daisy seems to understand story telling from these clips

[@OseronPhaer]

Damn, the condescension in those interview clips just...grosses me out.

[@leeturiano4419]

Especially when it's true.

[@Ayyshaddy]

@@leeturiano4419im sayin

[@andrewshearsby8125]

Nothing against Daisy, but Rey was a poorly written Mary-sue off a character, who is insufferable, for all the hate JarJar gets at least he can be humorous

[@davidcottrell1308]

total word!

[@hokutoshinken-chrisarmstro131]

And he at least helps with the saving of Naboo by creating the alliance between the gungans and naboo.

[@andrewshearsby8125]

@@hokutoshinken-chrisarmstro131 and led to Darth JarJar

[@hokutoshinken-chrisarmstro131]

@Andrew Shearsby Yeah, he was accidentally responsible for giving Palpatine the power and authority to unleash the Clone Army and thus the creation of the Empire 😳

[@jamesschrader8667]

This role is beneath her. She should fire her agent.

[@Loki_Yogi]

I'll never forget the reaction from the audience in the movie theater FOR ALL 3 SEQUEL FILMS. The girls/women in the theater were ALWAYS the most vocal in their disgust for Rey. 🙏

[@rachelclark6393]

That s because star wars has always written great female characters so we had such high hopes... Only to be greatly disappointed

[@AstralLaVista]

The way Kennedy said controversial makes me hate her more 😅

[@Toraryuko]

She must ruin even the English pronunciation.

[@SlappingCheeks]

Yeah I’m tryin to figure out what was controversial about the new trilogy

[@AstralLaVista]

@@SlappingCheeks well having the original cast , having the opportunity to have them all on screen at the same time as each other, but then subverting everything so that it doesn't happen and then one of the original cast died making it impossible, so alot of original fans were pissed, that's ignoring all the other terrible writing points in the sequel trilogy

[@amarcellus1714]

​@@SlappingCheeks Ben Solo and Snoke basically become Vader and Palpatine 2.0 Han Solo went back to smuggling and broke up with Leia because of their emo son turning into Vader 2.0 Kylo killed his father. Luke was supposed to successfully rebuild the Jedi order and his nephew/children/new students would be the new hope for the galaxy. He failed and they gave his destiny to Rey. The Skywalkers and Solos lost so much in the books. Luke's wife was murdered, he lost 2 nephews, he lost students to war, Chewbacca was killed. But he never gave up. He knew his son and the galaxy needed his leadership. The writers in the books did it better and actually know how to progress characters. Anybody who understands the fundamentals of a good story structure and character development will know this.

[@SlappingCheeks]

@@amarcellus1714 I’m sorry they broke Star Wars, maybe we’ll get it back

[@locman6228]

The lack of spiritual growth in the disney movies that Luke showed in the first films was the biggest surprise to me in the Disney movies. Watching Luke grow like that had a big impact on me as a child.

[@Jennifer-nz2ss]

WDW has ruined my childhood characters 😢 I am a WDW hater

[@blackdog8151]

The resistance doesn’t make sense, as this states Rey’s accomplishments are poorly explained, and the biggest crime to me is that Luke is given next to nothing to do for an action sequence by the time TLJ is over. How are fathers supposed to play with their son’s Luke Skywalker action figures together when he’s a cynical coward the entire length of two movies!

[@Imylover]

It's very interesting to hear in the Ep 9 clip from the theater where Rey announces herself as a Skywalker that there are basically just WOMEN that very openly OBJECT to Rey calling herself by that name now! So, KK, exactly WHOM did you make this crap for again? Obviously not for men. And women don't like this either? So, who did you make this for?

[@supreme12]

Exactly!! Those women were upset. Besides most women dont see themselves as heroes. They rather see themselves as the prize the hero has busted his ass to recieve!

[@manoz6194]

Herself

[@generalzod7959]

​@@manoz6194precisely. Kathy makes _all_ Lucasfilm movies for an audience of one.

[@Pahoe77]

Herself and her blighted sense of inferiority. Legend in her own mind.

[@hellshing4866]

​@@supreme12now, that part is ridiculous 😂😂😂

[@rebekah.2187]

"But she was a Palpatine" Even Palpatine needed to be trained. "Anakin was powerful for no reason" Anakin spent years training at the Jedi Temple. When Rey closed her eyes and calmed herself that moment when Kylo Ren had cornered her on the edge of the precipice, I really thought him telling her that she needed a teacher triggered a memory in her, that maybe she did have some training before she was abandoned on Jakku. They could have fixed it, but they went with she was left on Jakku as a slave, which didn't make much sense either. Who teaches a slave to pilot ships and potentially escape? 🤦‍♀️

[@robertsmiley2207]

She said Kylo is so weak but her character basically steals his powers so that's like calling herself weak she didn't even know what the force was until he mentioned it 😒

[@johnhoran9840]

Why did Snoke bother with him if he was so weak?

[@johannesseyfried7933]

​@@johnhoran9840I guess Snoke assumed he would become more powerful with proper training?

[@AshVXmc]

He is a skywalker descendant after all so snoke probably thought that he would be strong

[@beentheredonethat5908]

That was a disgusting statement from her and why she is such an issue. Kyle was FAR from weak, even the books state he was powerful, carrying the same potential as his mother and grandfather, as well as his uncle. He was trained under Luke, then under snoke, how he lost a lightsaber to Rey is beyond words. Even Palpatine had to be trained! Which he did for DECADES under his master.

[@hellshing4866]

Wdym, dude was barely alive when he fought Rey 😅 And she said he was weak because it's easier to go to the dark side than stay in the light. ​@@beentheredonethat5908

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

There's nothing really to attach to in terms of character. Abandoned on a desolate world yet seems completely healthy. Knows machinery she's never seen before just by looking at it. Learns insanely advanced force techniques in a matter of days or even hours. Bypasses most known weakness almost all other characters seem to suffer. Has plot armor for days despite her inexperience. The pretty much canned her potential romance with Finn which could have at least been something.

[@championjdg]

you forget the story is forcing her to be the one, the hero. you can decide that you like her. you have to like her.

[@petradevries8839]

no not with finn with ben solo adam driver not kylo ren he was the bad person.

[@davidcottrell1308]

MA-RY SUE.

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

@@TaurusInvicta luke in the comics yes. Luke in the movies no

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

@@TaurusInvicta lol true

[@bigdoubleu117]

I always love how people who like the Disney films say, "Well time was kind to the Prequels and people appreciate those NOW, so who's to say in a decade or two, that the current young generation won't grow up and come to appreciate the sequel trilogy?" Well this has 2 big fallacies: Many who grew up when the OT came out did go on to like the Prequels and the generation of kids that grew up with the Prequels mostly liked them as well. The only real thing that time maybe had a part of was to allow all the people who liked the Prequels to finally voice their opinions. * IMPORTANT * You have to remember, computers, internet, social media and online discourse either didn't exist yet or was in its infancy during the Prequel era. Now however, toddlers have access to smart phones, PCs, solid internet, social media, and online discourse at any time. And the love for the Sequels is no where close to the others. The kids growing up with the Sequels have the chance to voice their opinions currently in real time. But they overwhelmingly don't. Or they're just more interested in Marvel's MCU.

[@erichuynh8756]

Lol no they’re not interested in the MCU, Disneys MCU is committing the same mistakes as the Star Wars franchise. Everything else I agree.

[@rebekah.2187]

The 10th anniversary of TFA is coming up soon. So, we'll see if the ST generation shows up and speaks up online for "their" Star Wars. Also, even without access to the internet as kids, there is still merch sales. I see the Star Wars toy sections on shelves shrinking, and anything new, of any kind of merch, not just toys, are always either OT or Mandalorian/Grogu. I've seen a few CW era toys pop up and, on a very rare occasion where there was a line of ships, a couple with Kylo Ren's interceptor, but that's it. Manufacturers want to make money and stores aren't going to waste valuable shelf space with things that don't sell. So, they are going to make and stock what sells. The ST obviously does not sell.

[@Giggles_iJest]

Notice how to this day Mark Hamill is seen with such respect, his mentorship with Cameron Monaghan (Cal Kestis), real passion for his work and the characters he plays along with their lore and how none of those qualities are likely to show themselves on Daisy Ridley's behalf anytime soon. Ridley is using the wrong outlook, and she's not making a worthwhile example of herself despite thinking that she is

[@LukiKruki]

Not to mention the past female actors of Star Wars. And some after her debut. They have more respect than Rey's ever got.

[@oliverafton1444]

​@@LukiKrukiExcept for Padme's actress probably

[@kojirotakamashi]

Disney didn't just drop the ball with Star Wars, they threw the ball out a Skyscraper window, shot it on the way down, ran over the remains, and then set it on fire. Then they act like the fans are in the wrong. And yes, there is a male version of a Mary Sue, it's a Gary Stu.

[@ivanafterfive]

The fact that Daisy hates the Mary Sue tag makes me love using it that much more.

[@karthu1993]

Only men and pick me girls use that term. I've grown up watching male characters who are perfect and haven't faced any struggles but are praised by the audience. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@creed1741]

​@@karthu1993it's not because she's a girl, it's because she's a terrible character

[@Imylover]

I strongly doubt the insane Rey film they are now planning will ever happen. But if I am wrong & Disney/Lucasfilm are THAT stupid (which they have already proven they are) I absolutely believe that Rey will not have evolved one bit what so ever or still gotten any character traits of any kind that differs, even less are engaging for us, during the 15 years this film is meant to happen after Ep 9. I bet she will be exactly her robotic, boring, bland Mary Sue self, absolutely perfect in every way & the years haven't touched her at all. How can anyone already being super perfect & knowledgeable about everything ever learn or evolve? And who will ever pay to see Rey again? Not even the insane Reylo's seem excited. Talk about beating a dead horse. Just as dead as that insanely overpriced SW hotel based on Rey & this godforsaken trilogy that is now getting closed. Oh, what a surprise that was - not.

[@hellshing4866]

She is so perfect that she messes up in every movie. GG my guy 😅 you have the right mentality here 🙄

[@javierlopez9789]

​@@hellshing4866yeah pretty sure everyone would love to "mess up" the way she does according to you.

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

Fin had the most potential and should’ve been the main character who wasn’t force sensitive and then Kylo also had really good potential to be a good villain but Disney ruined

[@HD_Hates]

They also wasted Gwen Christie's Captain Phasma and Domhnall Gleeson's General Hux. Hell ,I think Hux should have been the main villain instead of CGI Snoke with Phasma as his enforcer .

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

@@HD_Hates I think Kylo should be the main villain but just make Hux less annoying

[@anonecki]

Kylo should've been the eponymous risen Skywalker. If Rey sacrificed herself to save him at the end, not the other way around, and he was forced to confront and atone for the consequences of his choices, that would've made for a much more compelling ending. But nooo, we can't have that because GIRL POWER!!

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

@ and it actually would’ve been a the rise of skywalker not the rise of palpatine

[@markveres7369]

Not Daisy, but her character Rey is the most hateful Star Wars character ever since Episode 9

[@yasininn76]

Nah, daisy has expressed nothings against it, actually she's 100% on KK's side. Daisy is part of it too

[@seanimusprime9849]

Nah she isn’t. Rey was actually sweet and likable, she just was a bit rushed.

[@yasininn76]

@@seanimusprime9849 she was arrogant and Mary sueish throughout the whole trilogy. Maybe you're referring to another character named Rey?

[@nathang6376]

10:16 - Wow, that quote from Natalie Portman at the end hit the nail on the proverbial head. It reminds me of Katee Sackhoff’s commentary on the all-female charge in The Mandalorian S2 finale. Very well said, Natalie. Leila, Padmé, Ashoka, Satine, Bo-Katan, Hera Syndulla, Mon Mothma, Steela Gererra, Sabine Wren, Omega, Cara Dune, and Asajj Ventress are all exemplary strong female characters for all the reasons Rey, Holdo, and Reva are not.

[@williamblake8560]

The studio really set these actors up for failure.

[@thgar4850]

Rey is not a character or even a plot device. She is a characterization - a bad one. She damaged the plot, the storylines, the other characters, and the overall arc of the journey of the heroes. This is the problem, not the fact that she is too powerful. The too powerful issue is minor. Every time Rey is on screen, she appears to be damaging one or more of the major elements of Star Wars or (worse) another character. This is why Rey is hated. She is a bad plot mover in the poor disguise of a character. As a female lead, why should female fans (or any fans) to proud of her? Star Wars was before Lucas sold filled with an unbelievable number of strong wonderful leads and supporting characters (Vader, Luke, Leia, Han, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Padme, etc...) . Rey just is not anywhere near that level. Even as a plot device Rey fails when compared to the Death Star or the Jedi or the Sith or the Republic! As such, the question is not "why do fans hate Rey", but rather "how could it be otherwise?" But credit where it is do. The lead bad boy in the VII, VIII, and IX is just as bad a character. And he also is a complete failure even as a plot device. So at least Rey has company (which she would not if it were not for him).

[@Makoto03]

Great video on rey. Shes one of the most boring protagonists in modern movie history, imo. Also loved that clip of Natalie Portman at the end. So true. Padme was also a better character than Rey.

[@ideatheory]

Padme has always been a character I respected. A lot of her strengths came from how she defined femininity.

[@fantasywind3923]

@@ideatheory she was also interesting as a politician, she did kick ass but her specialty was politics and diplomacy which made her a nice comparison to Leia and naturally it makes sense, mother and daughter after all :).

[@marcelbonds1279]

Disney's modern female characters are nothing but woke feminism bs. They have no character progression, no flaws, no struggle to overcome.

[@carloss3499]

Yes there is male term for Mary sue it's called Gary sue the most known example of a Gary sue is kirito from sword art online, Harry Potter and korra are soft sue manly because they have character

[@Silveirias]

* Gary Stu

[@abraham2172]

Harry Potter learned six years how to use magic, he had to study long and hard for becoming a wizard. He is no Gary Stu at all.

[@Xehanort10]

James Bond is another Gary Stu. Never in any real danger, somehow manages to get out of death traps that should be impossible to escape, most women he meets love him for no reason and most men he meets want to be his friends for no reason. He's portrayed as having no flaws too much like Rey.

[@Silveirias]

@@Xehanort10 I have to disagree. I don't think he's a Gary Stu, most certainly not in the books. But even in the films he gets hurt plenty of times, and he usually would not survive without the aid of Q's gadgets. Not all women fall for James: Fiona as early as Thunderball calls him out on thinking that all women automatically would fall for him. A lot of the Bond girls (primary and secondary) are vulnerable young women in bad situations: Domino, Solitaire, Andrea, and Loupe for example are all lovers of violent and/or abusive men who take or try to take the opportunity to get out or better their position, and it's morally dubious of Bond to use them to his own advantage. He's not a good person, despite being one of the good guys. Vesper and Elektra both use him. He's quick to fall for the women he finds himself protecting, but apart from his wife (who's a touchy subject for him) seems to fall out of love just as quickly. I enjoy him as a character in the films because he's not perfect and has a lot of bad qualities, but I would absolutely loathe a person like him in real life.

[@cameronjosephvideos5942]

Harry Potter has plot armour, not a Gary Stu. It's more like the plot is always set up for him to win, but we still know Voldemort would destroy him in a fair fight. Korra has a flaw of being too impulsive and quick tempered. These flaws bite her in the ass and she gets her ass kicked a lot.

[@dancingvalkyrie]

Future Star Wars stories suffer the same issue. Obi Wan, The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, none of these shows have a fully fleshed out protagonist, they all rely on cheap cameos, unfunny Marvel jokes, and lazy writing. Thank god for Andor.

[@Dovah_Slayer]

The mandalorian is ok I don't think Dave Filoni was given as much freedom as he needed

[@Bagman07]

It goes beyond lazy writing. It's just BAD. She complains that fans don't like her. But she fails to see that fans didn't like any of the characters. I find it sad that the thing the people that hated George always said is they didn't liked his writing especially the dialogue but Disney is 10x worse than Lucas in everything they complained about. In Kenobi there's is a scene were he hides leia under a trench coat that barely covers her 🤡 on top of other bad scenes. How do you f🎉uk up a character like obi wan?

[@theophicen7850]

Andor is also bad, only a little less.

[@dancingvalkyrie]

@@theophicen7850 Andor is not bad, your brain is just smooth

[@theophicen7850]

@@dancingvalkyrie keep the faith man and be happy!

[@generalnobody69]

So if the term Mary Sue is sexist because it's used against women, does that make the term mansplaining is sexist as well?

[@ideatheory]

Uncomfortable questions for them, I'm sure.

[@jeremyshaw3846]

Sadly her Character Ruined Star Wars......

[@davidcottrell1308]

that was KK...

[@paolo69]

To me the Star wars films are the originals and prequels everything else dont exist

[@davidcottrell1308]

@@paolo69 yup.

[@ashlyncake]

Disney ruined star wars

[@SchultzDorinda]

Not if you ignore the existence of the Sequel Trilogy. I do the same with the Chibnall Era of Doctor Who.

[@BloodDragon-40k]

Why is Rey hated? Simple, because she is a plot device that must make the story move, everything happens around her and only her. Events simply happen because they must ,not because that's where they lead to like in the OT or the prequels where we learn how a Jedi trains , how tragedy can change a person and so on. Just as KK said that if a movie is surrounded by controversy it means it's not meant for certain people (meaning 99% of the fandom) to enjoy, I can strongly say that she has no idea how entertainment and good storytelling work. You don't make entertainment to push a message that everyone must follow, it's very arrogant to impose something and no one likes that.( it's not like they care or anything)

[@J1O2C3K4E5S]

Not to mentoon no idea how a business works. She’s delusional kinda like how all the restaurant owners in Kitchen nightmares are.

[@Scooterwithaplan]

Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter! Would you want Hilter's grandkid to be the hero of your story? Beside the fact that she for some reason can do everything without any training from anyone even though she lived like a homeless person on backwater planet. Makes no sense.

[@hellshing4866]

- Hitler's grandkid wouldn't be responsible for his grandpa's crime - by that same logic, Vader's child wouldn't have to be a hero. - she can't do everything 😅 all she does is really easy stuff. - the Force is all about willpower. This is how Luke can nail a perfect shot on his X-Wing despite no experience flying or how Leia can resist the Inquisitor's mind-invasion without training. Now, the Force-skype thing, it's groundless 😅

[@Scooterwithaplan]

Luke and Leia aren't related to the mastermind of the destruction of the galaxy and the person who wants to enslave everyone in it. They also couldn't fix the Falcon easily and had never been in it or flew a ship before. They also didn't fly threw the air like superman over speeding tie fighters. Gimme a break her powers are BS. They made her a space super hero what a joke.

[@hellshing4866]

@@Scooterwithaplan no, they're related to the embodiment of the Empire and the Emperor's enforcer, just as feared and loathed as his master. She had been in ships before, girl is a scavenger 😅😅 it's literally all you have on Jakku 😅😅 you pretending like the Falcon has unique settings and stuff 😅 Kylo was near the ground. We've seen ppl jump higher than she did 😂😂😅😅

[@Scooterwithaplan]

Do you see people seeking out Hitlers grandkids to be the spokesperson for their products or run for political office today? Jumping high is one thing but jumping high with a ship flying hundreds of miles an hour at your back is another. Her character sucks and there is no way to defend it. These last 3 movies killed a great franchise and destroyed the legacy of great characters.

[@hellshing4866]

@@Scooterwithaplan there aren't any grandkids bc his relatives all made a pact to let the bloodline die. And if someone was Hitler's grandkid, didn't know it, became a spokesperson for something, and it was revealed who his grandpa was, ppl wouldn't actually blame the kid for that. You don't control who birthed you 😅😅 And your same dumb logic can apply to Luke and Leia. 🙄 I'm saying, she didn't jump high. It looks like it but it's probably not higher than 2 meters. 😅 ship coming behind or not, it changes nothing. It's a freaking jump. Nothing superhero-like, especially in a trilogy that has Leia doing Mary Poppins in space.

[@noeditbookreviews]

I feel embarrassed for Daisy for her thoughts on the Mary Sue. Has she corrected herself on that yet?

[@teufelszahn]

Prequels aged like wine. Sequels did like milk...

[@J1O2C3K4E5S]

Funny some people believe they will age the same way the prequels did.

[@teufelszahn]

@@J1O2C3K4E5S VII maybe, since it had a lot of potential. VIII and IX... no damn way

[@mrblank-zh1xy]

Like raw unpasteurized milk

[@ZeRo-yc7zf]

I think both were quirky and unique and can be appreciated for it. IMO the sequels didn’t work because it lacked any relatability and conflict in the central story, and identity. The prequels had all the flaws but at least they had something to say and stuck by it. I was once in a small college jazz band, and my group had a lot of personal issues and outside obligations that prevented us from being properly prepared for our upcoming concert. My music teacher said something along the lines of “You may be unprepared, but you need to pour your heart and soul out on stage regardless. Making something happen and showing a lot of emotion is much more powerful than having a sorry, vague and bashful mess. At least you leave the audience with something to take away”

[@gamergirl2236]

Rey is the pure definition of a Mary Sue. She might as well change her name to that. -Hardly had any training and still defeats the emperor with ease. -Defeats Kylo Ren even though she’s never wielded a lightsaber. -Lifts a huge pile of boulders even though she’s still in training. -Can use force regeneration on a high level. Even though she WAS STILL IN TRAINING. - Barley had any struggles. -Always reigned triumph over others, even to those whom helped her. -Steals the Skywalker name as if it belongs to her. I can go on and on as to why Rey is the perfect example of a Mary Sue.

[@thegreypath1777]

@gamergirl2236 - I agree with some of your post; I also disagree with some of your points. * Rey should have never have been the one to kill Palpatine; this was ANAKIN’s fight; ANAKIN should have been the one to kill Palpatine. Rey should have just handed Anakin his lightsaber, just like she previously did with Luke. * Rey had struggles. She was orphaned by her family. It is not easy to raise yourself. * I agree that there should have been a little ceremony or something where The Skywalker Family formally adopted Rey, OR Ben and Rey should have been married. * Rey should have had more training.

[@wettoaster34]

rey calling her pathetic self a skywalker honestly just makes me feel… 🤢

[@Imylover]

Someone needs to educate Daisy that there IS a male version of the term Mary Sue. It's called Gary Sue & means the exact same thing but for men. So, sorry, Daisy, that everyone uses the female version of this term to describe your female character. We didn't mean to be politically correct. Or is it OK to only attack men, in your opinion, with criticism in terms of badly written characters & not women? Sorry, we bad.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

It's crazy how in each of the 3 fights Rey has against Kylo, she seems to do better the less training she has.

[@iEdwinT]

Good thing I've avoided seeing interviews of Daisy, from these clips she seems almost as insufferable as Rey IRL.

[@slyngn7847]

Ridley: "I don't believe in weakness in people." Yoda: "That is why you fail."

[@Trey_816]

Rey: "rEy sKyWaLkEr" Me and everyone in the theatre: "She can't do that! Shoot her... or something." (-Viceroy Nute Gunray)

[@SuperBatSpider]

I have a theory: This was supposed to be a video game. Rey is a blank slate that kicks ass. Most plot points seem like missions the player would be part of. Even Snoke is the classic “You thought he was the final boss because he was in charge but it was someone else all along!”

[@mrblank-zh1xy]

The movies should have just been a sprite swap with The Force Unleashed

[@johnnylams3948]

Anakin: lost every limb and family. Luke: lost one limb and family. Rey: lost nothing.

[@thegreypath1777]

@johnnylams3948 - Rey: was orphaned by her family.

[@johnnylams3948]

@@thegreypath1777 I agree. She was abandoned. And so what? It has almost no impact on the character. If she didn't lose her parents, or lost them other way, what would change on her? Nothing. So, it like losing nothing. Correcting myself: sadly, she lost her storytelling potencial. Just that: one set-up and almost no pay-off.

[@megabugginout]

Kathleen Kennedy must GO.....

[@DefecTec]

She’s an underdeveloped and terrible character who stole Luke’s legacy, the actress seems nice but the character is the worst in Star Wars

[@beomcheolkim8543]

I wish Finn was the focus rather than Rey. The guy was raised as a tool for the First Order and then made the conscious choice to defect and seek a new life elsewhere. He had more character growth and development in the first five minutes of his introduction than Rey did in the entire trilogy.

[@frankyyy9725]

They totally ruined finns character

[@MultiRishicool]

Great video! A quick piece of feedback on the video itself I'd be careful with the special effects and editing it was honestly really distracting from a very well written script. Especially at moments like 5:18 where I actually had to pause the video and walk away because my eyes started hurting and I got a headache looking at that much unnecessary flashing and spinning. Eventually I just minimized the video and listened to it like a podcast.

[@lander77477]

Yeah I noticed that nonsense early on at like 0:58, its really bad

[@yoavbenclaudia3073]

I have never cared for the actress outside of the films, but now I despise Rey even more because I am repulsed by the way she thinks. I always thought her acting was poor, but she is also arrogant? Truly the icing on the cake.

[@270yis7]

When Rey first appeared on the pop culture radar in 2015, she was reasonably well-received. From THE FORCE AWAKENS, she seemed a fitting protagonist to carry the newest trilogy. The problems started in THE LAST JEDI when the writers/director added elements that didn't fit well with what was introduced in EPISODE VII, and then THE RISE OF SKYWALKER compounded the problem. By the end of the Sequel Trilogy, you wondered: who was Rey, exactly?

[@justmike3018]

Episode 8 demonstrated how truly awful Episode 7 was written overall, despite its positive first impressions.

[@justmike3018]

@@gilluna3866 Pretty much, but also JJ pre-emptively ruined Luke, Han, and Leia as well as Mon Mothma and the New Republic by the time we got to the end of TFA. It wasn't until Rian had to run with what JJ left him that the audience realized it.

[@shane-him]

Yeah, despite TFA having bad writing, it was still ok. Ain't gonna lie, I watched it like four or five times since it came out

[@ericchung3177]

I always found it weird to call "Mary Sue" a sexist term just because it's a womans name. Like... it came from a character. It's an archetype that's named after a specific character who was called Mary Sue. She was the main character in an (intentionally) bad self-insert Star Trek fanfiction from the 70s. That's where the criteria of the trope and the name came from. It's like saying "Chad Thundercock" is a sexist term because it's a mans name. They're just trope names to describe archetypes.

[@LukiKruki]

The fanfic was purposely written like that, as I remember, to show what is wrong.

[@teufelszahn]

Thundercock 😂😂😂😂

[@zeromech1450]

It took me ten seconds to look up where mary sue came from and that there is a male version of it. There is absolutely no excuse for daisy to say something like that without looking into the concept at all.

[@Narsil31]

Rey is a poor replacement for Luke. What Disney should have done is respect the cannon from the books that followed EP6. They should have put on screen Luke's journey to rebuild the jedi witch was the main arc of the books that continued the story after EP6. Now Rey's character development was completely flat. She had no growth over the three movies and I think this was due to her being able to do anything inherently without any prior training from the start. Yes she did get some training from Luke in TLJ but that was not enough time for her to be able to do what she does going on. She just uses the force and fly's the falcon without, as far as we know, any significant instruction and she even knows how to repair the falcon which is over twice her age and has also been heavily modified from it's original design. Where did she learn on Jakku the ins and outs of the guts of a YT-1300 Corellian Freighter? I bet the writers of this crap didn't even know the ships model number because their obviously not Star Wars fans. This is bad writing, bad character development and just highlights how Disney is hiring people who don't care about the source material they are writing for.

[@ainzer2903]

I remember General Hux still got his rank stayed even after the dreadnought destroyed just because he suggested a "great" idea to Snoke, while Poe got demoted when he lead the Resistance with victory even though he disobey the order. Tbf, no matter how bad you don't want casualties happen, it will. Also the fleet that under Poe can disobey Poe's command since Leia's command takes priority based on their ranks but they still follow Poe's command but Leia blames all casualties to Poe, Leia I know is not that kind of person....

[@ainzer2903]

Rey said "I don't believe weakness in people" my ass. She mean "I don't believe weakness in women (me)"....

[@papalaz4444244]

she is a non character who survives all legacy characters and takes their roles and is automatically superior it's the worst kind of fanfic writing possibe

[@leeturiano4419]

Do you hear all the women in the audience boing and make it stop? Yep, girls don't buy it either- even the feminists. Poor writing and character develop will ruin your story every single time

[@CelestialInfernoYT]

i honestly think Star wars was afraid to get canceled for hurting a women💀💀💀

[@DualStupidity]

Blew my mind in 2017 when I learned so many people were not aware of one of the most commonly warned-against tropes in writing fiction. Even 20 years ago I was hearing Gary Stu and Mary Sue used interchangeably. It was never about a character's gender, only the quality of their development.

[@hondorockz]

Somehow Rey returned 😵‍💫

[@059NOLAPokemonGO]

Never seen, heard of, or trained in the force & resist a mind hack. Then does a Jedi master mind trick no problem. Picks up a light saber yesterday & never lost a single battle. Never piloted the falcon yet can pull off Ace pilot maneuvers & fix it when Han Solo couldn’t. The hate she receives is misplaced, it wasn’t her fault. It was just bad writing. Also, to use force lightning you have to be struck by it at least once, & be totally aligned with the dark side of the force. That’s why Yoda couldn’t. He had to use force absorption to reflect it back at his opponent.

[@TheQuadLaunchers]

I never really had anything against Daisy. Those first 15 seconds of her speaking completely changed my opinion.

[@RyanBlazeheart]

People mostly hate her because she STOLE the name. She didn't even really have to work for it. She barely trained at all and when she did it was for just weeks. WHAT? And then she kills the Emperor and somehow doesn't get turned to the Darkside? Shouldn't Kylo have thrown him into an abyss? It would have worked so much better.

[@Steel-101]

The thing is at first I was cool with Rey. 1. I’ll admit I had a bit of a crush(she’s pretty). 2. There was mystery surrounding her and so I didn’t want to judge the character right away. However after watching the 8th & 9th movie, I noticed the character was poorly written. I mean I’m fine with her being an adopted Skywalker, but she shouldn’t replace the original Skywalker bloodline. The Skywalker family tree should’ve continued(Like the original EU). So really if you look at all the facts the sequels are disorganized and poorly written.

[@Doughnuts]

Feedback i haven't seen much in this comment section... As respectfully as i can, this video is very over-edited. You don't need a special effect or whacky transition for every clip. Effects and transitions are tools to elicit emotions and convey certain "feels". This video is really hard to watch. And i imagine it was even harder to make because you had to create and put all of these effects in every clip. Think about what you want the audience to feel and does the effect help or hurt. It may be cool, but it may be the wrong place/time for that. Again, all the respect I can give you. It takes a lot of hard work to create a great script and edit all the clips together and come up with a good idea title and thumbnail. So please don't be discouraged. It was just super noticable and I thought you'd appreciate some feedback. Good luck!

[@Crimsrn]

because we know when we see a good character

[@rebekah.2187]

I'm only 49 seconds in and I think Daisy would benefit greatly if she took a lesson from the quote, "Better to let people think you a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

[@firephoenix7788]

I honestly think this is the best "Sequel Trilogy Bad" video I have seen yet. You expand on the big flaws of Rey as a character. You talk about the writer's perspective, and how a good story should be written. Also, to be honest, I think Hux was the most poorly written. Dude goes from obliterating entire well populated planets and killing trillions for the First Order to "Im ThE sPy".

[@zetadahana235]

even Anakin Skywalker, literally the force in human form struggled, need years of rigorous training to become good and still getting his butt whooped many times by Obi Wan. And disney told us that suddenly some random girl are the strongest and without weakness? Every Jedi masters and Sith Lords are rolling in their grave lol

[@haidergoraya3098]

Film trilogies are supposed to give character development throughout the series. The problem is Rey doesn’t have any flaws in the trilogy. She’s perfect in every way and that’s what makes it so boring! Nowadays these studios just want to embrace on feminism!

[@EmeralBookwise]

Gee... someone else who forgets that when Rey "beat" Kylo Ren he'd just been shot in the gut by Chewie's bowcaster. The fact the dude could even still walk was a testament to how strong he was, but he absolutely was not gonna be at the top of his game in a fight. Also, in expanded universe lore, Besipn wasn't even the first time Luke fought Vader, and he actually faired far better in their first encounter, albeit because Obi-Wan's force ghost possessed him to augment his abilities. Point being, Star Wars lore has always been full of ways to explain anything Rey does.

[@AWOL_ODST]

Rey was raised on a desert planet yet she can swim and sail boats in extremely rough seas…. Right. Mind control, force healing, lightning just because…. Great character Disney. Please make this Rey movie so I can watch it burn at the box office. 😂

[@johannesseyfried7933]

You could argue that she learned to heal from the books, but using Force Lighting just because she was angry really doesn't make sense. It's not a power unique to Palpatine and it's not something you can just "do". It requires actual training

[@Mikplayeur]

2:43 What I don't understand is why *_Kathleen Kennedy_* didn't asked to *"perfect Rey"* , once created, to take up his most "perfect pen" to "perfectly" rewrite her sh*tty character and in the process rewrite these f*cking postlogy films while bringing a good character writing for all other characters.

[@DemoNinja79]

Simple reason. Everyone who cared about the originals can see she's a poorly-written character, especially for a protagonist.

[@clashmustache]

Nothing wrong with a character being strong or powerful. Hell, Luke and Anakin are both more powerful than Rey. The Difference is that those 2 actually had suffering in their lives. Luke: - Lost his arm - Found out his greatest villain/enemy is actually his father - His Aunt and Uncle AND his mentor (Kenobi) were all murdered - Tortured by Palpatine Anakin: - Born into slavery - Also lost his arm - Lost his wife - Lost his Padawan - Had to fight his best friend and brother - Held his dying mother in his arms and had to burry her knowing he could've saved her if he arrived sooner Compare that to Rey's biggest challenges and pain: - She didn't know her parents - She has a mean boss - She found out she's the granddaughter of the most evil sith lord in the galaxy (Although takes it a lot better than Luke does) While Rey doesn't have NO challenges or suffering in her life, it is not enough to make up for her INSANE power. Hell, even Finn has gone through more than her. I honestly think he would've made a better main character.

[@graylykan2739]

"I don't think there's a thing called Ryan Craig." Um actually, Ridley, the term for a male Mary-Sue is called "Gary-Stu". Bet she never even heard of it despite its popularity. 😒

[@Homeschoolsw6]

0:10...An uninteresting, perfect and overpowered male character is called a " Garry Stu ".

[@mark.8949]

I don't mind Rey and Daisy is hot af. However, Disney's lack of story and character arc should be to blame for Rey being seen as a horrible character. Finn was also a horrible character that wasn't used properly. They were 3 poorly conceived movies that had no cohesive story or ending. None of that is the fault of the actors or characters.

[@merlin5411]

Great video! Although some of the flashing did hurt my eyes

[@OriginalMomo]

I like daisy, but her character Rey, and Ben / Kylo are both horrible characters, that never existed until Disney took over. Han and Leia had 3 kids. The twins, Jacen and Jaina, then Anakin. Ben was Luke and Mara’s sons name. Stop recreating crap and the use the millions of hours of info out there. The last 3 movies were an abomination.

[@Dakayto]

Rey is NOT the last Jedi. It's Luke. The OG troligy didn't really need a sequel. It left such a high note that I believed that anything after it would always be overshadowed. Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, and the rest of the Jedi didn't die so that Palpatine could come back to life.

[@Deuteromis]

I was on Reddit the other day and saw a post about someone who was mad about getting downvoted to hell because they talked about how they loved Rey and said she was an inspirational character they looked up to. They also claimed that the majority of Star Wars fans like her. 🤣

[@wettoaster34]

of course it’s a reddit user 🙄 only those subhumans would make such an atrocious take

[@DiamondKingJack21]

Note: there are 2 Star Wars series. The Disney Star Wars series, and the George Lucas Star Wars series. Disney made movies to make money. George Lucas made movies because he was living his dream.

[@ChadKing69]

Daisy Ridley is just as unlikable as her character

[@markrobinson4982]

I would like to know how many people are like me: I don't *hate* Rey. She seems nice enough ... personable ... it's not like I don't *want* her to be a good character. It's that these three movies were written like crap by people who have no respect for the audience, the source material, the past characters, or even the story that was started in the previous movie. 7 was a mess, 8 s**tcanned what 7 had started, and 9 was a b***hslap to 8. I like the character of Rey just fine, other than she's overpowered, her character arc was practically non-existent, and she obviously doesn't even know what a compressor *is*, much less how important it is that you don't bypass it! Signed, a mechanical engineer who knows a thing or two about compressors.

[@supreme12]

Just goes to show how the writers used Rey to insult our intelligence

[@romanbrown2029]

"we didn't make the movie for them " - Kathleen Kennedy If not for the generations of genuine star war fans that supported the franchise well before the sequal trilogy was even thought of, Then who did you make it for? If you're not gonna take someone's preexisting franchise and respect the material and the fans, it better to leave it alone.

[@thegreypath1777]

@romanbrown2029 - Kathleen Kennedy needs to be REMOVED from Lucasfilm asap.

[@chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031]

Dark Sith Empress Rey Palpatine Skywalker > Rey “Skywalker”.

[@noobmaster69426]

Ridley seems like a good actress, but I’m talking about the character Rey. She is literally the WORST character in Star Wars. A boring stock character, a dumb Mary Sue, a poorly written character. The reason why I said Ridley seems like a good actress is because she deserved so much more than Rey. I can list many characters that are better than her: Coleman Trebor, Jar Jar Binks, Pong Krell, Kylo Ren, etc.

[@elib9002]

The reason people hate rey is because the writers suck. She didnt have to be the joke of the century. That was all their fault.

[@SecureInMyHead]

Look, I’m sure daisy has a good heart. I’m suuure… Though it would have been nice if instead of saying “yes boss” to the poor writing, she stood up and gave better suggestions. That goes for all of them. Unfortunately Ford was already a lost cause.

[@petevaldezbc1]

Rey, the male term is Gary Stew, trick be-otch

[@vitoldwisniewski]

Daisy Ridley... eat your heart out, Mark Hamill offered actor Cameron Monaghan better advice on his role as Jedi Cal Kestis in STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor. Wise words and questionable training methods from Mark will hopefully give Cameron the edge he needs as he continues his journey from STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order then your joke of a training from last Jedi.

[@leeturiano4419]

Because she was put in a terribly written trilogy with writers and ownership that has no knowledge whatsoever of the franchise they are writing for, plus, yeah, sis- Rey is a Mary Sue.

[@Montesama314]

Rey was thinly written but it could have been ignored by me if not for that stupid fucking forced Palpatine reveal. How do you make a reveal that not only adds nothing to make her cooler but only adds MORE questions? I'm supposed to believe that Palpatine with all his planning and power couldn't have semsed amd then through some agents snatched up someone with his own flesh and blood and force potential, and instead went out of his way to corrupt Ben Solo, whispering in his head for years and ignoring her? Or hell, why not BOTH?

[@virgogaming6488]

In the book Shadow of the Sith Palpatine lost track of Rey's parents since her dad had force potential for a powerful offspring, which is why he let him go off Exegol.

[@Flylikea]

It's not hate, it's more like exasperation. At least, for me personally. I mean let's face it Chanel Oberlin had more character development.

[@jacobmcbride9426]

If Mark thought the film was shit, why did he do it. This just allows them to exploit and degrade the franchise more 😢

[@billmcdermott9647]

Basically George gathered them together and they signed up to do his sequel trilogy but at some point obviously he sold to Disney so those contracts got carried over …so they had to take part. The same thing happened on the film ghost ship The cast found themselves starring in a completely different movie to the one they signed up for

[@mrexists5400]

8:40 I can't help but notice that it's women that loudest here

[@liaml.e.5964]

Rey is a parasitic character. Everything she has by the end of her story was taken from someone else... She stole the Falcon, she stole Han as a father figure, she stole Chewie after Han's death, she stole Anakin's lightsaber, she stole Leia as a mother figure and she stole the Skywalker last name... Nothing she "has" is hers, nor earned, and certainly not deserved. *In the end she remained a scavenger.*

[@jorgelizaso978]

Time not always fixes things. Hittler continues to be a bad guy, doesn't he? Rey continues to be a broken, bad written, insufferable character that belongs to a story noone wants to accept as part of the Star Wars canon. To be honest, I don't care much about the actress. For example for the few interviews I saw from Adam Driver I think he's a good guy, and think he's a good actor too. That doesn't make Kylo Ren a better character, he continues to be a teenager prone to have tantrums, a weak Star Wars villain, and a character that would fit more in the Twilight Saga than in a Star Wars movie.

[@CaptainStef_747]

whats the background music called