Everything Fire Emblem Engage Did RIGHT!

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[@Mangs1337]

▶What It Did WRONG: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHjSkKutrp6ifLM

[@goatslayer3160]

Mangs are you okay? Blink twice if you're being held hostage.

[@NormanJR18]

I think you mean "If you're being held against your will, blink three times."

[@aereonexapprentice7205]

Mangs: There are good designs in Engage >Proceeds to glaze over the blondies Yeah, yeah... that checks out

[@juanfebejarano5474]

I believe that the reason Engage is easy to mod is because it's made with Unity, a common engine that a lot of people know how to use, and can work on a lot of different platforms. Far easier to work with than some engine created exclusively for a weird console like the 3DS.

[@leatherhidegaming]

I'm surprised it's made in Unity since it looks great and also runs so well on outdated hardware.

[@Ergeniz]

@@leatherhidegaming Really? The character models are very homogenized and there's nothing particularly advanced about the environments.

[@Speedwinghere]

Colour me impressed that you actually made a pretty good list of things about the game. Engage has a lot of good things going for it which honestly requires playing it yourself to appreciate. I hope this video maybe convinces some people that never tried the game but base their opinions on the game purely on what they saw from reviews etc on launch to actually give it a chance

[@EZDre11]

Engage really is underrated. It's insanely fun.

[@tomo8940]

It'll die in obscurity with Tokyo Mirage Sessions.

[@OmniMon94]

Agreed

[@OmniMon94]

Agreed

[@OmniMon94]

​@@EZDre11 definitely agreed

[@josuecallejero9864]

The pixelation at 0:50 😂

[@lunialation666]

well with how the internet is nowadays it is sadly needed

[@drakenpriest]

Right. Where was it again...China were barefoot was a wannabe offense?

[@DavisG603]

Enjoy the engage vids everyone!

[@dangfxn771]

How the heck do you not mention the music in this game 😒

[@DavisG603]

@@dangfxn771 not up to me, blame the egg

[@MrMariosonicman]

my positive that doesnt get brought up enough. Anna actually gets really good supports with people. after the dissapointment of Fates anna and even more three houses anna we get an Anna that actually feels like part of the world and while sharing similarities to past Annas we get unique takes with her supports this time around.

[@Artemas_16]

IS really gave us child Anna, I was pissed off when Robin and Corrin forbid Anna to continue her tradition with daughter.

[@KopperNeoman]

@@Artemas_16 In both of those games Anna should have given birth to Anna. That way Anna could be Morgan''s sister.

[@Artemas_16]

@@KopperNeoman totally agree, that would be best case scenario. But even if IS was lazy and didn't wanted to make dlc child, they at least could make that name of child changed.

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

@@Artemas_16 better yet, in the end Awakening Anna appears alongside Fates Anna as the family Engage Anna lost. Apparently Awakening Anna told Chrom to piss off offscreen and raised her baby sister in the family business via a loophole, since its not her daughter after all

[@TwilightWolf032]

The problem with Engage is that, for every one thing it does well, there's two things it does poorly and a caveat!

[@slenderMax28]

This is how I feel as well. If it simply was "gameplay good, story bad", I could just skip the cutscenes/dialogue and have a good time, but there are too many little annoying things and caveats that get in the way of enjoying the game.

[@LuminousArc92]

the death of Lumera, while not a good scene since we knew her for 10 minutes tops so Alear crying so hard is stupid, Framme actually trying to heal her and being unable to do so was good. Too often those with healing magic never use it in cutscenes so I appreciate Framme's attempt here

[@FlameUser64]

Sure, Alear only knew Lumera for 2 days… but she'd only been _awake_ for that many days, and had total amnesia. More importantly, Lumera was the first person to actually treat Alear like a _person_ and not just a god. Nobody else had engaged with Alear as an equal, as a fellow person they could just talk to. They'd always just gone straight to hero worship, putting Alear on a pedestal and making her feel alien and alone. _That's_ why Lumera's death hit so hard for Alear, she lost her very first human connection.

[@CarbonMalite]

I feel like Lumera was an inside joke moreso than an actual plotpoint. Like, as though the game was intentionally trying to speedrun past all the FE tropes and they had to get the parent death out of the way ASAP. In that sense it's pretty funny

[@Yarharsuperpirate]

@@CarbonMalite If they wanted Lumera to die off in the first hour, the least they could have done was have more of Alear's memories of her slowly coming back over the course of the game. So the impact of having to fight her risen self at the end of the game would have alot more weight to it. Since you would have had more chances to see the past with her.

[@KopperNeoman]

I mean, her HP was already at 0.

[@FlameUser64]

@@Yarharsuperpirate See _this_ is a critique I can actually get behind! Though… I'm not sure how intended this is, but I got the impression that Alear and Lumera didn't get very long together the first time around, either. It seems like Alear was "killed" only a few days or maybe weeks after becoming friends with Lumera. Still, though, some memory snippets could have been cool, and might have been a good opportunity to further foreshadow the twist.

[@DanielFlores-fv3vr]

How dare you not mention Engage's amazing soundtracks

[@fakesmile172]

To be fair, almost every game in the series has an amazing soundtrack.

[@JoeLinhardt]

And to be even fairer, although Engage’s soundtrack is good for a Fire Emblem soundtrack standards is just good, the best tracks of the game are remixes and those already carry the essence of their respective games. Engage’s own tracks sound just… good

[@TreeckoBro]

Honestly, there's like two good songs. The Four Hounds and the Final Boss themes.

[@ecsphysicsmako]

@@TreeckoBro Don't forget Solm!

[@Zyaire286]

@@TreeckoBroNot going to mention Defective soundtrack?

[@Eternalwarpuppy]

One thing I never see Fire Emblem Engage get praise for is its voice acting. I always play female Alear because I love Laura Stahl's voice for her. David Matrenga's ability to put unnatural emphasis on random words and sound hilarious doing so was a great personality quirk for Zelkov. Brittney Karbowski and Laura Post did an amazing job managing the 2 faced natures of Citrine and Yunaka, but Megan Harvey took that to the extreme with Veyle.

[@Florete_FE]

Yeah, one thing I've said before is that Laura Stahl deserved a better script. She put so much heart into the role...for *this*.

[@lsrrr3857]

Many played the JPN version and the voice acting combined with female alear's generally down syndrome-ish look makes the scenes super cringe. One example is the scene where her rings were taken, the scene of alear with her giant hollow looking eyes and screaming "give me back!" in anime voice, thats top level of cringeness.

[@Brown95P]

​@@Florete_FE I think it's fair to say that most voice actors in Engage deserved a better script than whatever this mess of a game was. 🗿

[@birdbig6852]

​@@Brown95PThe script is not that bad if you play with jp voices. It's just like an anime, way better sub than dub unlike 3H (neutral).

[@zekdom]

This! I love Laura’s voice acting; female Alear is the only option for me.

[@gravitysloths5127]

Engage to me felt like tokyo mirage sessions but in fe universe rather than fe in real world.

[@nikkeli3942]

Engage may not have been perfect but it is a lot of fun. The visuals and the soundtrack are just amazing. Hope they knock it out of the park with the next game

[@Jaysonthevoltalorian]

This video pretty much sums up my opinion on Engage. I find it really fun and replayable. The rings are fun and the attention to detail is amazing too. Such us, the main cast saying lines from the Emblems. And how they reflect on the battle and even lost allies. I just wish the story was better.

[@AlvarO1396]

I got to see the live by pure chance! As an engage enjoyer, here are some points you forgor: -Music is banging, and the remixes too -i have to disagree with speedwing; I very much doubt maddening is the intended difficulty. To each their own, but I felt hard mode was just perfect. If I'd played on maddening it'd have been more frustrating than fun. -the break mechanic sounded awful in paper but I really came to like it in-game, another layer to the strategic complexity -not everyone supports with everyone. I cannot understate how big that is, but maybe you mention in tomorrow's video that less shipping means less activity online for the game I thought these would never come out! Great job to you, Davis and everyone involved ❤

[@Speedwinghere]

What I meant by intended difficulty was the intended difficulty for fetubers who have made careers/ long term hobbies out of playing the series, making guides, telling people what to do and then not playing on the difficulty intended for players like them before leaving their reviews

[@gideonantonissen6275]

Well the break mechanic from Engage did not work on bosses on Maddening difficulty so yeah that is kinda disappointing but i do also understand why it didn't work on bosses sorta though.

[@SARGON439]

Mangs would rather make a video talking about Engage in a positive light than continue his Ironman >.

[@zaekulia]

The warrior outfit design in Engage was my gem among the turds Leaving only one side sleeveless actually takes into account that they can use bows while still looking badass It also gives Etie the sixpack she deserves :)

[@Alector12]

Still, Eties abs pale in comparison to the absulute unit Merrin turned out to be in warrior class. This girl has the body Etie wished she had.

[@stephensetcoski7171]

I’ve been playing Fire Emblem since the series debuted in the West. Engage has a mixed bag of character designs and a rather boring story/dialogue. However everything else it does is at least competent or in many cases fantastic. Engage is much better than many people give it credit for.

[@popers1328]

Is engage hate really that bad? I know some people didn't like the art direction or whatever but my blind maddening playthrough of Engage is the most fun with Fire Emblem I've ever had.

[@JordiumZ]

Engage is good but just don't see the vision

[@lsrrr3857]

Hate is a strong word, but it is a fact fewer people enjoyed it compared to 3 houses.

[@grizz5506]

Unfortunately a lot of drones on the internet sums it up.

[@EinTheEin]

People think silliness is bad now and that grey morality is the gold standard for whatever reason.

[@SpookSkellington]

Personally thought it was... meh. Not bad, but absolutely not memorable. Characters didn't stand out to me at all either (except Panette), and the gimmick felt like "REMEMBER ALL THESE CHARACTERS FROM OLDER GAMES?" I'd kill for another sprite-based game with fixed classes but split promos though.

[@redchicken5533]

I just realised today that Hortensia chasing rumours that if she can gather all of the emblems she can bring her Dad back to life actually do get substantiated by the end of the game. -> another reason why Hortensia's character progression is my favourite storyline in this theatrical game.

[@dodoraptor]

Drink every time you hear "Which is"

[@thegreatsubtitleguy4313]

I think it's fair to say that engage also did a better job with the hub world than 3 houses gemeplay wise. There are no lost items to have you run laps around the map to make sure you picked them all up and found the owner, which wastes hours and murders the pace, there are no closed doors/gates when you teleport to different area and the only tasks that can be viewed as mandatory are relatively easy and take 5 minutes at most if you aren't sure which supports you wanna build up, or which units you want to do the 3 arena runs for bonus exp so you don't have to worry about. If someone wants to spend time doing every little mini game, finish collecting fish and stuff, then yeah the Somniel will take as much time from someone as the Monastery, but you don't have to do that and it doesn't hinder you in any way, meanwhile in 3 houses, you have to do the gardening, you have to do faculty training, you must interact with every character to get their support and motivation up so you can train them, you have to do fishing or the shinging in the church, you have to do the tournament and you have to do lost items. I personally feel like this is something that people don't really talk about, so I thought I'd bring it up

[@FireEmbros]

I really like how you pointed out that the bosses are much more threatening and actually used their mechanics against you. Overall a fantastic analysis in this video. I do indeed enjoy a good engage playthrough, and love the different challenge runs and balancing acts that have occurred on multiple playthroughs. A fantastic experience!!!

[@WannabeVTS]

Engage isnt really that bad, its easily the hardest official game on maddening, other than some cringy writing, its a pretty good game

[@kimaru135]

One thing I really do like was how the rings felt as powerful as the story made them to be. The crests in 3 houses were talked about as so strong and important yet in gameplay they were very lackluster

[@n00bplayer72]

Definitely agree about the bosses. I always hated that Azure Moon built up Cornelia as this menace but then Dimitri always one-shot her because she's a fragile mage. It would be great if they combined Three Houses and Engage's boss mechanics: Bosses have multiple health bars, and each new bar unlocks a new skill. Imagine if the Death Knight got Null Cavalry once you got rid of his first health bar, he'd be more of a threat.

[@k-d969]

@n00bplayer72 bosses in engage already have this, but its only on the dark emblem bosses, they enter a frenzied state and get the rings ultimate weapons

[@catfancier4269]

Getting to the point where I could Ironman Engage without DLC on Maddening while not using the Somniel is perhaps the most fun I’ve had with Fire Emblem. Lovely game with so much replay value.

[@KrimsonKattYT]

CENSORING VAYLE'S FEET AT 0:50 LMAO 😂😂😂

[@alondite215]

One thing I think is important to keep in mind is that a lot of the things people don't like about Engage are things that are really just specific to that game, but the things that it does well are likely going to be carried forward onto future games. So while it's not my favorite game in the series by any stretch, I do think it's a valuable entry in the series if for no other reason than what it's likely to contribute going forward. I didn't feel this way about the 3DS games, where I started to feel like the series as a whole was slipping. With Engage it feels more like this one game just does a bunch of things all at once that aren't to my taste, but otherwise it's still a very solid video game and the series is in good health.

[@Zabes10]

One of the things engage did right was no bad dessert maps. In the 5 chapters the maps are either decent to really good, thats something not even fe4, fe9, fe10 among other got them right

[@AliceSicily]

Without comparing to the other games uhh In engage itself, compared to the others chap 12-16 does feel really odd. Chap 16 can be easy if you just rush the boss, but if you cant getting stuck in the water really sucks unless your entire army is fliers

[@fakesmile172]

FE3's desert map might be the worst one. It might be good in terms of ludonarrative but it's not fun to play.

[@Aeivious]

The reason i think engages desert maps work is not every tile is a slow down, just that its a more present hazard

[@novaeclipse139]

MMW: Engage will get a big boost in popularity after the next FE game comes out. The cycle will continue

[@lero4827]

No way! He finally talked about Engage! This video has definitely some good points, but do the good points outweight the bad points? We'll see tomorrow in Part 2.

[@kueyteow6288]

I've been personally playing through all the FE games, and playing them honestly increased my appreciation of Engage even more with how Engage pays tribute to past characters. Yes, it does fumble in a few areas but in general, it does a fantastic job. I still find Engage's gameplay to still be the best in FE from what I've played, I never so badly want to replay Engage again but I need complete the past FEs first. I think an underrated aspect is the characters. They feel very akin to the GBA cast in my opinion. A lot of people write them off as cringe and one-note, but I think they are endearing and are simple. They don't give these characters a chance after reading their C support. If i were more cynical, I would have wrote off 90% of the GBA cast as flat and bland if I didn't read their supports. Character designs, I think there are more hits than misses, and people blow up the "Engage has bad character designs" too much. I mean, have you seen their Somniel outfits, they all look incredible! The only thing I dislike about the designs were how some female characters have giant hair that reaches the floor. The only negative thing about the story I would say the main villain is mediocre, and the Four Hounds...yeah I don't like them, with the exception of Mauvier and Griss. I still found the story to be pretty fun, with heartfelt and hype moments.

[@tobiz1922]

The music in engage is really good.

[@yashinebrown9179]

Engage is probably one of the best Fire emblem games in terms of gameplay and replayability. Game is super easy to get into not taking 30 plus minutes to micro manage a hub. You can go in go out.

[@AliceSicily]

My main issue is that, even if/when I spend "only" 5 or 10 or 15 mins micromanaging it still feelsbad. And the nature of the game is that you kind of have to. It is tedious and slow when it happens, moreso than the actual time itself is the loading screens

[@thomasquesada7248]

@@AliceSicily except no

[@jamesgordon1446]

Engage is actually my favourite fire emblem.

[@TreeckoBro]

Fire Emblem Engage did one thing extremely well. It took Fates' spot as the worst Fire Emblem.

[@snailbert3292]

I just started replaying the game, now on maddening. It’s an incredible but not insurmountable challenge. This game may have a skip worthy story in some points, primarily the mid game, and the characters may be cringe at times, but the gameplay is like butter. Excellent maps, mechanics, and unit distribution tailor-made for Ironman challenges. Not to mention an art style that’s always eye catching. Anyway been really enjoying Conquest again, oh hey look an Engage video.

[@kasai999000]

My favorite part of engage was that it fixed the issue i've always had an issue with previous games. No character is dead weight or an xp sink. I know in previous games, the beginning paladins is an issue for most. I've never used them for more of a challenge in the early game, but with the second seal, there is no longer a problem with the starting paladin falling off late game. (i do realize that not every early paladin falls off late game. i've just always had shit luck with them myself.)

[@ZephyrK_]

GAMEPLAY GRAHHHH. Animations, better variety in the map design and better usage of dynamic music too. Overall PLAYING Engage is amazing (which truthfully is the most important factor for a game) but if you’re gonna include a story, then at least try instead of reusing the same plot for the 10th time with less interesting or visually coherent/appealing characters than said previous attempts 😭

[@MidwestArtMan]

The 3H Mangs art makes me think we need some official-looking Engage Mangs art. I'm sure he'll love it!

[@TheRandomViewer-zv4bv]

As someone who is in two minds about Engage, thank you for making this. Engage definitely has a lot to criticise about it. But it would be wrong to deny what it did so well. It is nice to see some positivity about it alongside the negativity. It is weird how, for the most part, the quality of this game is either extremely good or extremely bad, not just somewhere in-between.

[@prof.dexample6238]

Okay here's my favourite thing about engage. About halfway through the campaign there's a betrayal of sorts where the main characters plans get thwarted and they lose all their emblems. But since you the player got so used to using those emblems and built your strategy around them emblems. It actually feels like the story thwarted YOU! Personally. You actually have the same reaction of "Oh f*ck, my enemies keep getting stronger and I just got much weaker" that the in game characters are having that reaction too. The same motivation to get the emblems back that you can feel from the character's expressions, YOU PERSONALLY have that same motivation because them emblems went with your playstyle and strategies. So more than any other fire emblem game, fire emblem engage is actually very engaging.

[@Yarharsuperpirate]

Alot of people say the story was unredeemably awful. When thats far from the truth. A simple and more focused story is sometimes far better then an overly ambitious one that is all over the place like Fates and 3 Houses. Since if you go for a more complicated story, your bound to have it filled with absurd plot holes which the above 2 mentioned games have. While Engage went with a more tightly focused story that is both serviceable and incredibly easy to follow. Engage to me felt like a "Fire emblem greatest hits compilation" with the amount of fan service and references to the series as a whole. Which I felt it nailed perfectly

[@EinTheEin]

Engage's character designs are nice since you can generally tell what class someone is at a glance which is not something I could say about 3H. There are definitely some outliars like Ivy and Hortensia but they are both brand new classes to the series and you could at least tell Ivy would be an mage of some kind. In 3H there's no way to tell what class anyone is when they're all wearing a generic school uniform. Sure there's the time skip but they still have the same issue of them not having any class clarity because you spent the school era building the characters to whatever class you wanted them to be in. Awakening and Fates also had this issue due to how different the class designs are other than a few like the mages and pegasus knights. Well maybe more so for Fates. At least Awakening kept the classic look for most of the classes.

[@Syaoran_Nishi]

Talking about the positive aspects of FE Engage... I nearly agree with everything. I like a lot of the character of the game with the female protagonist on top of them (the male protagonist is quite bad if you ask me). Another things I've appreciated are the Characters interactions, while some of them are quite of boring, one-sided or hyper-reverential, others are kind of interesting and entertaining. The battle animations are well done, in my gameplay I've almost NEVER skipped one (with some exceptions), also I perfectly agree with your statement of "feeling" the animation and the weight of the movement of the character. The story is quite good (I know, I have to keep a thing for a next comment on the bad things of this game), and has a good pace. Maybe this comment is short, but only because I do not need to go into details. For the next comment I might go into details because (spoiler alert) this game have some things that really get in the way with the enjoyment. And I also expect you to get an over-half-an-hour video out. But it's not a bad thing complaining if you like a game, it is "wanting it to be better".

[@grizz5506]

Engage will go down the same path as Conquest. Lambasted on release, beloved 8-10 years later with the complaints being nothing more then “characters and story were severely lacking. Otherwise phenomenal game.”

[@Brown95P]

And Awakening will still be regarded as the better game of the three for being an overall better package, despite being like 10 years old now. 👏

[@nekonomicon2983]

Its like the Zelda cycle

[@grizz5506]

@@Brown95PAwakening had a myriad of problems, and still does. You’re an unserious person

[@thomasquesada7248]

Nah engage is great and when the tourist haters will leave it will be recognize has such

[@Alector12]

For older fans, another point I think in Engaes favor are the paralogues. Seeing the stages of old titles recreated and referenced, often with their infuriating BS gimmicks intact, looking at FE 4, 5, and 6 in particular, (That Sacae level has a special place in my heart) should put a smile on their faces, at least for me.

[@deathandrebirth-y8x]

watching ike knock down the fortress was a jumpscare

[@Zyaire286]

I’m gonna laugh my Sommie out that the hate video going to be longer than the love video😂

[@AliceSicily]

I think in general its just easier to rant about negatives than to praise games.

[@Zyaire286]

@@AliceSicilyYeah, that might be true

[@Underworlder5]

@anthonypreston7261 talking about what you dislike is easier than talking about what you like. people also tend to go more in depth about things that bother them, pointing out the exact problems in the hope they might get fixed down the line

[@Reruro]

Honestly Engage on Maddening was actually really goddamn fun, I just wish the story wasn't so blisteringly awful that it made me stop caring about finishing my first playthrough.

[@ramen1010]

Honestly I've held the same opinion of engage since it released. That the story was gonna be bad (which it was), and that the gameplay would be a lot of fun (which it was). Honestly I was just happy that the actual strategy gameplay ended up being a lot of fun. I just sincerely hope that Intelligent Systems actually incorporates their gameplay ideas with an actual interesting story and characters. Having a Fire emblem game with strategy mechanics like Engage with an Echoes/Genealogy level of story and character writing would actually be incredible. Not that I personally think that will happen. It feels like to me that most FE games either have amazing gameplay or amazing story, never quite both at the same time.

[@cheezysharky]

FEE is a case for me like "put a bag on her head and she's good enough". It was good in certain aspects, but I can't imagine myself wanting to revisit it anytime soon, and I'm certainly not proud of spending 60 bucks on this game on my birthday.

[@thomasquesada7248]

That’s my take on three houses

[@Azamingg]

I didn't expect the music to not get brought up. I think it's a massive step up from three houses, whose Fodlan Winds make my ears start bleeding after the massive overdose, and just in general a great soundtrack. I find both Tear Streaked and the Solm map theme to be among the best themes in all of fire emblem. But I do agree with most of what you said, but I don't get the "going back to gba era gameplay" point. I mean, you say yourself you don't want to play 2 out 3 gba fire emblem Games. So, knowing IS' approach to gba era fire emblem, I don't think it would work out.

[@isakts8576]

to be completely honest engage's music feels kinda generic to me, at least compared to the previous entry. Three houses has tearing through heaven, Chasing daybreak, funeral of flowers, apex of the world, GOD SHATTERING STAR??? Although i do concur that fodland winds is mid..

[@dangfxn771]

I agree the music in this game is incredible i can't believe he didn't bring it up @mangs

[@AstraProc]

Facts, the soundtrack is really good. It’s also just straight up larger than that of three houses, even while maintaining a consistently higher production value!

[@DrakonPhD]

To be fair, great OSTs in fire emblem are just an expectation lol. Engage's OST is not as good as Fates IMO (still the best soundtrack in the series), but its on par or better then 3H

[@ZzShy]

Imma be real, Engage is my favorite FE games in well over a decade and Three Houses is one of my least favorite FE games of all time, but objectively 3H has the much better soundtrack overall and I dont think its even close. You can definitely have the opposite preference, but I think its pretty clear that the soundtrack isn't as good in Engage as it was in Three Houses.

[@K.J73]

Let me guess: -Gameplay -Animation Something else ?

[@lsrrr3857]

Goldmary

[@EinTheEin]

All of the characters are actually likeable and the story isn't a hot garbage grey morality mess like 3H since it isn't split up into 4 parts that don't have a satisfying conclusion.

[@Brown95P]

​@@lsrrr3857 And goldmary is literally a manipulative narcissist, so she is basically a moot point. 😐

[@cheezysharky]

Nothing else, king, you got it all.

[@BARALover96]

@@EinTheEincharacters in engage are very very hit or miss.

[@arnavmekala4578]

This video kinda makes me want to replay Engage as I never picked it up again after playing it once when it came out. This was because I had Fire Emblem fatigue from playing the franchise non stop from 2016-2020, but maybe when the new fire emblem release comes out, I will just replay engage to get in the swing of things. Hopefully the next game is better than engage though.

[@thomasquesada7248]

Mostly right videos except Engage characters actually have great character designs, I’m serious everybody will give different answers if you ask their favorite designs Also thank fuck someone is finally saying that three houses isn’t fire emblem Also emblem rings are only as dominating if you overly relay on them

[@Ender41948]

Oh lordy loo, no they are not good character designs, at least the majority.

[@lsrrr3857]

Really? I am surrounded by bozos who say 3H isnt fire emblem and the best FE is tear ring saga.

[@thomasquesada7248]

@@lsrrr3857 the best fe is actually engage

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

This is going to be a KZbin short, isn't it?

[@tesnacloud]

I am going to make a gigantic hot take. Alear is a better protagonist than all the other Avatar characters, and a fair number of regular main lords. Alear gets fears, likes and dislikes, preferences, and actually makes choices as a character. SPOILERS They save Veyle at the (temporary) cost of their own life, they decided to betray Sombron for humanity, they hate being worshipped and revered, they are something of a scardey cat. They aren't a brilliantly written character, don't get me wrong, but they are decently written.

[@finaldusk1821]

Honestly, the only ones I think are better are Robin (who is mostly propped up by supplementary material after Awakening) and Shez (who is in an uncontested league of their own). The rest are far and away behind Alear. Even as someone who generally disliked most of Engage's characters and was really worried by all the tropey red flags around Alear, I was pleasantly surprised how relatable and interesting they ended up being!

[@Green-unit]

And you forgot the fact that Alear is fully voiced and not a block of wood and a blank slate.

[@DeadmanNC1]

As someing who came in with 3 houses loved that game and hard bounced off Engage this was an interesting vid calling out stuff I didnt give enough attention at first.

[@tobiz1922]

I love engage. The gameplay is just too fun. PEAK.

[@timothypeterson4781]

No Sami in this video!? What!?

[@josearaujomota4665]

Bro is playing both sides só he can always cone out on top

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

I really hope that typo was intentional. 😆

[@josearaujomota4665]

Always has been

[@Green-unit]

Mangs is a better schemer than Claude confirmed

[@Abundy]

Speedwing cameo was the best part gahahahaha

[@bm4604]

Counter point Revelations has the redeeming quality of taking place in the Fates engine, which arguably is the besr in the series despite its own flaws

[@lightcouragefake574]

I’m glad you mentioned the modding community. It’s truly a different experience playing this game modded to the brim.

[@liberator-san4700]

For me. I think the problem people had with emblem rings was that they didn't know how to use them. And then suddenly in the late game they complain about the game being unbalanced when they didn't do anything to try to learn them. The emblems do break the game in a way. But thats because the game is balanced on you learning how to use them. Meaning later on youre supposed to already be knowing how to use them. So if you didnt bother trying to learn them dont be surprised when the game that balanced itself on that ends up making you struggle. I think my favorite mission is the penultimate mission in engage. In hard mode you're supposed to push forward while at the same time get backstabbed by enemy forces. I LOVE this mission. It reminded me of Hamartia, a mission on the Mental Omega mod for Red Alert 2 where i had to push forward and after a bit a HUGE chunk of enemy forces popped in behind me just like how your main base got popped with a backstab the second your Conyard goes down. I think also on characters. People praise Yunaka a lot. I do too because she feels like one of the only good characters here. Paralogue missions were really great. My favorite one was honestly Ike's Paralogue. When you play the mission, you're like "Oh hey! I know this mission! Ill park here! Because thats what i did!" Only for Ike to outright break the barrier. I remembered laughing so hard even if i resetted the mission cause i got caught off guard. Another one i liked was the Roy one, as in that case, a lot of strats i use ended up completely carrying over from the original one. I ended up despising Lyn's though, even if she was my fave character. But thats also because i was flier reliant... Yeah it didnt end well for me. Overall... I dont think its the best but it did a lot of things nicely... I dont recommend getting the DLC for anyone initially though, the game is balanced for you to finish it without the DLC and the DLC breaks it.

[@AliceSicily]

The skill ceiling in this game is quite high. The difference between a "skilled" player and not is very big, which is something

[@liberator-san4700]

​@@AliceSicily Also true but I do think that it's not AS high as people think it is. It's easy enough to learn basic combos here and there. Like syncing Chloe with Speedtaker and Canto, or Louis with Corrin's anti Chain attack skill. But this is me playing on Hard Mode, I can't survive Maddening.

[@InternetMonster1]

Engage rings are battalions if they were balanced.

[@xXMGVXx]

I like the maps they included from previous games. They were remade pretty faithfully. I like the staff units melee attack. They feel vulnerable while not being literally defenseless. I like the break system. It makes the weapon type matter. It has issues but I hated 3H not caring about what people were using even more. Short points done. One more larger thing. Byleth and Alear never being used in their unique classes is incredibly weird to me. I feel it is not the games that made them weak but the players not using the full kit. Speedrunners are complaining that Byleth does not have 1-2 range in his unique class because they never gave him any points in faith. The enlightened one is literally the same thing as Celica's skill set what cracks me up every time I hear the complaints. Most of the unique classes in engage have similar issues where they are interesting but not obviously and unconditionally broken.

[@weberman173]

in Byleths case the 1-2 range is also... part of the Flamesword?(was that the name of their relic?) which, i consider to be part of the class/character even if it isnt class specific

[@Mudlink]

As much as I crap on the story of this game I can very easily look past it (I mean Conquest is among the best games and no one likes the story of it). This game offers so much for replayability and for fun strategies thanks to the Emblem Rings and the better balancing of classes. Designs for characters are genuinely bad apart from some gems which is a real shame but hey it just means I can remember the better designs more (based Merrin enjoyer). It's nice to see you finally make videos for Engage again but yeah the fact that it got crapped on right at launch really didn't help its algorithm potential but hey maybe a resurgence could happen one day (immense cope but I don't care).

[@tomo8940]

It didn't work for Tokyo Mirage Session so I doubt that'll happen. But I can see a re-release at some point of the Switch 2's lifespan.

[@raderelcaroman1403]

Personally even the story wasn't bad, it's the dialogues and overall voice direction that was so bad it bleeded into the player'sopinion of the story

[@isnortmemesdaily2172]

You can almost see speedwing behind him with a gun to his head if you look closely.

[@Kingdramana]

You completely forgot about Archers being good as well!...Without them having like a 5-tile range that allows them to hit through walls. See, the Gryphon Riders in Maddening are a force to be recon with. Units that you can't tank because you can't get enough Defense nor Speed to deal with them. Enter Archers, the only units that can really deal with them consistently outside of Rings. Now it really feels good to have one of them on your team to deal with a whole enemy class, instead of, you know, wanting to cast Meteor on every single enemy archer because they out range and overlap your units so hard. Plus on another note I also like Engage reinforcements being a lot more telegraphed. They often appear on the distance and give you time to prepare instead of "Okay, I just had to look at this map before hand, let me use a Time change shenanigan to fix it"

[@gamermanzeake]

Look, I'm not trying to be rude here, but there's no way you're convincing me your true issue with Engage is that it isn't "engaging" in the community or KZbin generally. If all you cared about was views, you would've moved over to; Call of Duty, Fortnite, or Minecraft years ago. If you believed any of these garbo takes, you'd be playing the game in spite of the so-called interaction. People would watch you nevertheless. I probably would dip out, but that's because I won't hide the fact I hate the way Fire Emblem has been going since New Mystery. Echoes withstanding because it isn't a bastardized political agenda filled remake or entry in the series. These kinds of videos only exist to appease a side of your audience that you still want watching you, but you absolutely don't agree with. Be honest, that's the best policy. Mangs, again I'm not saying this to be mean, rude or disrespectful. It's just an obvious trope in the content creator sphere that's readily visible.

[@Mangs1337]

I think you misunderstand me, one of my big complaints with Engage is that it's dead in the Algorithm, but no I don't just play for views. I just wish Engage was more "engaging".

[@aphato2770]

Peak -fiction- gameplay strikes again

[@VestigeSmash22]

en-en-engage?! W H A T T T T T? what kind of dark dragon magic is this?! that surprise aside in all seriousness FE: engage was pretty solid; for instance with new spins on the weapon triangle, the break mechanic, it works smoothly and feels like the player is being punished for not paying attention to the unit's current weapon on hand or to the disadvantage itself as a factor. plus chain attack? it's reconfigured nicely and more inclusive for more near adjacent units to stack damage but it's very reminiscent of FE: fates dual system but much better I just kinda wish during enemy phase if an enemy axe unit attacked any of the players sword units the enemy unit in turn gets punished for it.

[@bobowon5450]

I loved engage game play mechanics, and apart from some bad translations i even think a lot of the characters are great. People act like fire emblem characters are typically incredibly deep but most of them are just basic rpg tropes with 3-4 key characters who get treated with more love. But engages characters all feel like they have their own special sauce. The main thing i dislike against engage is that the four hounds are incredibly overused. and the over arching story isn't that deep.

[@DoggyP00]

Engage’s story or characters isnt actually much worse than most other fire emblem games, but its cringe, which is an infinitely worse crime

[@bobowon5450]

@@DoggyP00 I like the cringe. It beats the same story over and over again of .... your dad dies, you get a cool sword, you fight a dragon. At least in engage your mother dies, you get a cool sword, you fight a dragon, with rosado at your side

[@nataliecoronado4206]

Engage's story is pretty standard for the series, it's just enough plot to get the strategy part of the game going. A lot of players forget that games with strong stories like Genealogy and Three Houses are the series' exception, not the norm.

[@nickcalderon2637]

Counterpoint, Engage’s story is fully voice acted, full on cinematic cutscenes, and the events aren’t shown in a Visual Novel format either, compared to the other games with a Generic story like Engage, so people ARE in fact going to point out Engage’s presentation far more than the others because of that. Alongside the fact that the story isn’t bad because it’s Generic, it’s bad because it screws up TELLING a Generic Story in the first place. P.S. Saying “Well every other game had a Generic Story” is a lazy, disingenuous argument to ward off criticism. Yes you could pull this card if people are saying “The should’ve been darker” or something like that. You can’t just pull that card at the first sign of ANY criticism towards its Story.

[@Brown95P]

"But engages characters all feel like they have their own special sauce." Ah yes, toothpaste hair, truly a special sauce like no other. 😂

[@valdonchev7296]

"Onto my next point, which is..." felt like a very generic, unnecessary transition phrase. I would have just cut it out and left it silent. I'm curious why you chose to do that - was it to help with stiching the various portions of the video together in editing?

[@TheArkhamjester]

That last point about how if everybody played the game on maddening which if I remember right you have to beat the game first instead of hard feels like something of a backhanded compliment

[@AliceSicily]

Mad is available immediately. Theres also the option to lower difficulty in the somniel. Though its not quite as clear as it seems (most of the ridiculous tedious difficulty is actually at the start of the game)

[@Underworlder5]

@@AliceSicily the game being at its hardest at the beginning sounds like standard fire emblem

[@Zwei-II]

I agree with what Speedwinghere said abou replacing the backpack pair up units to the emblem rings so you can keep getting stats bonuses but at the same time get to use every character, what I don't like as much is that you have only 2 skills to build your unit + the emblem synch skills. Conditioning you to use an emblem ring in order to use the build you have in mind and most of the Advance class skills and personal are super underwhelming, only good ones that are not from special royal classes are: No distraction, Pass, Pincer attack, Brave assist(idk hero's skill), Air Raid and Chaos Style the other ones are kinda meh and some of the skills listed above are on mediocre classes in terms of stats. As for Character personal skills, either a Character has a busted skill like Bloody Fury / Fairy Tale Folk or a really bad one like Fogado's Charmer. But all in all is fun to try builds on characters (even troll builds)

[@heyguysxd]

One thing i like about Engage is that most of the Emblem Rings feel like those older characters. Ike, Soren and Lyn feel like their actual self. Fe Warriors for example struggled more with this. Tbf Micaiah and Roy seem to be quite different though.

[@destinydivided8689]

8:45 Wait. Who said Celine's teapot dress was bondage? Also, Boucheron looks way too freaky in his armor 10:19 I thought it was a me problem when I saw flaws in the game, and boy did I see flaws before the first map (the throne room doesn't count) I also thought FEtubers would've played on normal to rush the game, not hard

[@AliceSicily]

Normal is basically for casuals. If they played on normal they would have lost credibility(?) Hard I think is because a lot of people were cautious of being burnt I guess?

[@lunatic0verlord10]

2:37 I think this is part of the KT touch. Koei's flagship games, the Warriors games, tend to recycle maps, too. Just look at FE Warriors.

[@butthemeatwasbad]

I disagree about multiple health bars, but I also can't think of an alternate solution. Maybe I just suck at the game, but all bosses became "send in enough that are strong enough to destroy each bar, or be prepared to lose someone to take two turns"

[@kevingreenley1765]

I really like engage when I turn the voices off and skip all the cutscenes. I despise the writing in the game, but love the gameplay for the most part. The emblem rings, though very fan servicey are so much fun to use. And the skills in the game are actually good.

[@jae2493]

even while playing other FE titles (thracia and golden deer rn), my mind always goes back to how much I missed out on Engage. I only spent 24 hrs on my first playthrough, and there's still so much I left untouched that I wanna go back and play it as soon as I finish my current games

[@AliceSicily]

24 hours is really really fast, most people I see they took about 50 or 60 hours

[@Aeivious]

I find engage discourse to be strange at the very least. Its often compared to 3h, when those games are polar opposites. 3h focused on story and world building and as a result we had some of the worst gameplay the series has ever seen. Engage focused more on gameplay, and as such the story suffered, but was atleast coherent as goofy and cringe as it was. I think conquest is the best fire emblem to compare engage with

[@Brown95P]

Three Houses and Engage definitely feels like Birthright and Conquest all over again; the fact Awakening is still the better overall package after all these years really goes to show how bankrupt the franchise has become.

[@AliceSicily]

Recency bias. Also a lot of people(?) played 3h and then engage? And I guess they just want to compare It is true though if you remove sov since its a remake and if we assume 3h is an outlier the previous game is fates yes

[@thomasquesada7248]

@@Brown95Plmao awakening is very bad for anybody that played any other game Seriously the worst gameplay of any real FE and the rest isn’t even that good

[@tylerprince6371]

I love engage, but I have a bad feeling the what went wrong video will be double the length of this one

[@lsrrr3857]

3:33 10 seconds of Rutger being... Rutger

[@MrReapling]

alright, 10 min video max, I'm calling it

[@furyon9816]

Engage was a good game. Better than 3H & Fates. Dunno about the hate.. story? Fire Emblem never had a good story (maybe FE4...) Character design? Welp, its fantasy what do you expect.

[@JoeLinhardt]

Before i even watch the video i’m gonna say the combat animations in engage are GOD tier

[@MythicalMediaReview]

Two eared Mangs isnt real. Two eared Mangs: 0:01

[@Y2kha]

I loved engage.

[@misteral9045]

Oh Mangs... I know you'd notice the horse turd and then immediately forget about it as soon as you saw the food.

[@haveyoutakenyourjoymygoods943]

Alright, now that it's done, here is my thought on it, like you i will do the positive here , and the negative tomorrow : First, I agree with all of your point, speed and embros too, the game maps are good and quite pretty i'd say. The gameplay is nice (duh). And FINALLY, FINALLY someone talk about the GOOD design of the cast, Diamant is GORGEOUS. The boss fights are actually interesting. And mods, just that is enough to Say lol. One point that i'm shocked you did no do is the music: it's f'ing good, I might not like some of the remixes.. but the gigachads corrupted music, just that one alone. And, again, Sombron could have been so good, so i'm putting him in both comments. In conclusion: this game isn't Bad, it's actually quite good, yes, a bit childish and over the top, but still. AND, might I had, it seems the community is also seeing that, cuz I am seeing a lot of arts, stories and mods for a game that nobody likes. Some may not like it, but we learn to accept it as just another FE titles. Ted talk over, bye bye

[@Liaisimportant]

One is for sure you can finally ENGAGE with your favorite characters like Lucina oh and Female Alear just carried the whole game

[@NetherTamer]

I'm a huge critic of FEE, mostly cuz I'm a huge story snob and Engage had one of the worst stories I've ever seen, but I think a lot of the hate is unnecessary. I had a lot of fun playing engage and honestly never got bored of it. A lot of the characters are great, all having unique personalities and designs, the visuals are stunning, the map design the great, strategy is peak, and more. It has a lot wrong with it but it also has a lot great.

[@Forever_Zero]

I can't really call Engage "bad" because I have a lot of fun playing it. The tactical aspect it's so satisfying, it just feels good to play it.

[@ishiro325]

Engage does not deserve the hate it gets considering how many good things it did with gameplay. It's good to see something positive about this game as I fear developers might treat engage as failure and overcorrect in wrong places.