Everything I Wish I Knew BEFORE Buying A Chinese Watch!

[@SuperFlatrock]

I have a Rolex Oyster Datejust and a Seagull 1963. The only advantage of the Rolex is that people will pay crazy prices for the Rolex. Otherwise, the Seagull is pretty much just as accurate and reliable.

[@gradywilson9213]

I have a Lilienthal-berlin Zeitgeist Automatik, which I purchased second hand from someone who got it as a gift, and is not a watch person. I paid a fraction of the cost, I will put the accuracy of that watch against anything anybody makes, it is impressively accurate.

[@veganbutcherhackepeter]

The ST1901 movement is not as nicely finished, but it's only a tiny fraction of the price of a Swiss movement and it keeps the time accurately. And it's really nice to look at, too, as long as you're not looking at it under a microscope. I'm quite happy with my Seagull 1963. It gets a lot of wrist time. And I do own a bunch of Omegas and other Swiss made watches.

[@gregtolley3455]

I have more watches than is rational from Chinese to Swiss and, as long as you buy from better brands, the Chinese pieces will go Toe to Toe, with Swiss pieces at 10x the price. Now, the Chinese do need to up their movement game and then it's not even close. A San Martin with a St2130 would beat any Swiss watch under 5k.

[@stephenmakk628]

I've had a Seagull 1963 for over 6 months and it's great. My friend who's a watch guy, likes it after seeing it and trying it. It's not all about the cost as real watch nut like me knows. I wear the 1963 and then the next day wear the Day-Date. It's fine they're both top notch.

[@johnchristiandeguzman5295]

I'm happy and satisfied with my $60 Guanqin dress watch. The longer I have it, the more I'm convinced I didn't waste my money.

[@cuestion-de-tiempo]

John Christian De Guzman where did you buy it? Thanks

[@johnchristiandeguzman5295]

Online

[@smokingstone1141]

@@cuestion-de-tiempo Gearbest.com has hundreds of this any many other brands of Chinese watches. They start a $2.00 a watch and go up.

[@cliffordbunin3278]

im temped to buy something like this www.wish.com/product/5d77884e08b8bc412ef5ed4e?hide_login_modal=true&from_ad=goog_shopping&_display_country_code=NL&_force_currency_code=EUR&pid=googleadwords_int&c=%7BcampaignId%7D&ad_cid=5d77884e08b8bc412ef5ed4e&ad_cc=NL&ad_lang=NL&ad_curr=EUR&ad_price=57.00&campaign_id=8704015860&retargeting=true&gclid=CjwKCAjw_-D3BRBIEiwAjVMy7Ipf17pCKTg1pVU2L-aq8IIKaXOMJ-9dFkz0nLXuwTxfEKsd3ft6-BoC2YcQAvD_BwE&share=web but it looks to good for the money important thing is i want the buttons to actually work.

[@HaraldSangvik]

@@cliffordbunin3278 Stay away from wish!

[@comfortablynumb113]

I own the same Seagull 1963 watch. What a watch for $375.00! Yeah I realize the screws are painted blue and not cured, yeah the decoration is not what you would get in a GENUINE Swiss for WAY more money, but look at the movement! Column wheel! works as smooth as butter. And it keeps better time than most of my "Swiss" watches! I own Rolexes, Breitlings, Ulysse Nardin, etc. But this watch is just amazing for the price! Good job Time Teller sticking up for watches that are made well no matter WHERE they come from! If you love watches, you love watches. Not just name brands but watches that are designed and made well with thought behind them no matter where they come from.

[@christopherspearrin5250]

If the screws not being heat blued bothers anyone ......remove em one at a time .. after replacing the one u just took out...n heat the screw up with a propane torch until near glowing then.pick it up with pliers n drop it in oil of any kind...you'll have naturally hardened n blued screws... And they will be done the ol fashioned way....lmao...I'm kidding ..don't ever take screws out of your movement...though u can ask your watch maker too do it when servicing the watch...peace

[@donaldbarden6294]

I bought an Addiesdive Tuna homage. It has a Seiko Nh35a movement. The loom is outstanding. It gains about 5 seconds a day. Not too shabby and really well made watch

[@Tyberias1337]

I bought the Seagull 1963 a few weeks ago and payed 215€ for it on Amazon and i love it, Chinese watches have a bad rep yes but Seagull and Fossiel produce pretty good watches and i don't care what other ppl think about it, i love it :P

[@blackout8845]

The Seagull ST1901 Movement is an absolute monster when it comes to quality. my 1963 runs with less than 3 sec/day on average. This was the pilot chronograph for the chinese military, and still people think the military would have giveen their pilots garbage watches...

[@vertugallery7099]

It is not the same watch or the same movement. It is a replica of the watch that was used by the Chinese military. Learn.

[@luke-alex]

​@@vertugallery7099 The movement is still made by the same company Sea-Gull. However, my understanding is that the QC they are applying can vary greatly depending on who they are selling to. Anyway, I believe Blackout's point is that it is a good design.

[@vertugallery7099]

@@luke-alex My friend, the movement in the original of this watch was a Swiss Venus movement, used by Breitling etc.

[@luke-alex]

@@vertugallery7099 Well, the Sea-Gull company (or its legal predecessor) bought the movement from Venus, including the machines which made it. As I understand it, the original 1963 movements were made in China (not Switzerland), with these machines.

[@vertugallery7099]

@@luke-alex The modern movement is not the same quality; it is a totally different movement. Go do some more homework.

[@mikes41720]

Just as the AliExpress sale was ending, I was deciding between a Seagull 1963 Reissue or a CIGA Design Z. I went with the CIGA Design Z watch. Gotta love that RM style skeleton watch for under 150 USD!

[@MyAffordableWatchCollection]

As a KZbin that deals a lot with those Chinese watches (my channel was formerly known as My Chinese Watch Collection) I agree with every word you said. The hate, the QC issues, all of it. But there is just so much value in some of the watches coming from China these days, it's a shame to miss out on that market. And my Seagull 1963 is my favorite watch in my collection, Chinese or not. And I got it new for under $150.

[@AliasEveWatches]

My Affordable Watch Collection 100%!

[@TrueFork]

A tongji automatic that sells for $12 shipped is not a bad watch for the money, because what did you expect for $12?

[@anthonysmith2982]

My Affordable Watch Collection - True Words. Where I grew up in the '70's , the term 'Jap Crap' was ubiquitous. It referred to all the cheap Japanese imports - from toys to cars. Now 'Made in Japan ' carries some caché. Is China the new Jap Crap'? I think so...

[@josephljohnson]

Awesome knowing that your birthday is in June because mine is also (June 30). I have a Seagull watch as well, it's not the model you have though. I love your channel, it's very informative and I get to see a lot of watches with a different perspective. When it comes to watch conversations, I advise people to wear what you love and love what you wear!

[@bovinejoni4243]

Anthony Smith it’s not only in the watch world, either. The budget knife market has exploded in just the past couple of years with tons of high quality stuff coming out of China. It’s really pretty similar to, say, how people are starting to take notice of all the materials and features these Chinese brands can offer at the price and wondering why Seiko still acts as if sapphire is an luxury feature, for example.

[@felixfourcolor]

I'm watching this with a Seagull 1963 on my wrist. Super happy with it.

[@iangarvey110]

MY GOD my seagull 1963 is 12 months old today and as i watch this it is on my wrist and going perfectly 👍♥️👍

[@willardhooton920]

Watch & Unwind Happy birthday to your watch!

[@SilverKeyMan]

*Sees the video.* *Sees the date.* *Hears reasonable arguments.* I'm so confused right now.

[@hellsingtepech6525]

Most seikos and casios are made In China just for clarification, only the high end pieces and older models are japan made

[@micbarker6256]

Indeed. My late 90s Casio MTD-1003 says Japan Mov't. My '70s Seiko SQ 4004 says Japan on the dial ... Japanese watches. But if it says Made in China on the back, as my modern Casios do, it's a Chinese watch.

[@TheSupertecnology]

I have a Guanqin homage of a Longine and it's ticking no problem, keeping time accurately and it was like U$48. There's this other from Pagani Design that has a VK67 movement and it's damn good. It was $51. Both Chinese, and both way better than more expensive counterparts.

[@kenfritz9565]

Jori, I enjoy all of your videos for several reasons - most of all because of your authenticity! In this particular video, as I'm sure you know, the 1963 Seagul movement is steeped in Swiss heritage! And the Swiss seem to know how to build a movement. Just sayennnnnnn.... Thanks for all your great work!

[@davidstewart3868]

Jory, well said. Do your research and choose wisely.

[@jontoland3491]

You really got me into vintage seiko and other brands I never considered. I just bought a Brew watch, and I hope to buy an Autodromo before the end of the year.

[@FK-wz3hn]

Such a nice video as always. This year I bought three chinese watches, two Pagani Design and one Parnis, and I really enjoy them!!!

[@Tableturn]

I love the irony of people commenting on the "crapness" of Chinese-manufactured watches, whilst using their (probably) Chinese-manufactured phone/tablet/computer to do so. Whilst also ignoring the fact that premium, "serious" watch manufacturers like Rolex or Tudor have not been without their own quality control issues. Hell, even my Seamaster 300 isn't that consistent at time keeping, but I know that's a symptom of owning a mechanical watch. Sure, ignorance and perception plays a huge part in some people's comments, but...like, reading and some basic research is a pretty good cure for this, and we're all capable of that, right? Love the video Jory. Thanks.

[@lordpagano]

It's quite a coincidence that today I'm wearing my Seagull 1963 chrono!! 😂 It's the 38mm, acrylic dome version. Just like the original from the 60's. This watch has such a rich history... It may be chinese, but has a lot of pedigree.

[@anthonysmith2982]

Christian Rodriguez - I chose the acrylic domed crystal over sapphire even though the cost was the same - for that exact reason; its heritage and to ensure that my watch was as close to the original issue as possible. I'm a bit of a fan of acrylic crystals.

[@matthewbessey681]

👏👏👏👍 if it’s a good watch it’s a good watch regardless of where it’s made. I’m hoping to add the seagull to my collection one day.

[@kennethdjones8181]

Nice video & info. I appreciate your honesty & straight-forwardness. If people don't like what you shared in this episode, then they can swing on the sack, bro! Continued success, my friend!!

[@fuosdi64]

China deserves more credit, Starking changed my opinion about them. They do have some decent products from their region.

[@yerpster]

Do you support Chinese concentration camps too?

[@j.adanga9787]

Love my Alpha daytona, it's a gorgeous watch with great quality throughout. 100% Chinese and simply excellent.

[@SSJfraz]

I bought the cheapest Chinese watch I could find for about $1.20 (including shipping). It's an extremely basic looking watch and the strap as you can imagine is horrible. But you know what, the damn thing keeps the time. It's an accurate quartz movement inside and the second hand is properly aligned with the second markers. Yes, there's an audible tick with each passing second, but it's no louder than any of the more expensive quartz watches on the market and I love the simplicity and non existent branding on the dial. It's also extremely light from being so cheap, so easy to forget that it's even on the wrist. For $1.20 lol

[@jiasunzhang8001]

I just read a artical about Swiss people just end Chronometer comptition they used to hold every year just beacuse Seiko almost winning all the top ten( the first three are swiss made quartz to save some face which means Sekio are the true winner. The Swiss cannot handle this and just stop the comptition ever since. So, swiss made had fallen long time ago.

[@RestrictedHades]

They brought it back but the watches had to be made in Europe.

[@jiasunzhang8001]

@@RestrictedHades Aisa Watch Matter， lol

[@troyclements806]

Always feel Joey takes shots at his critics on the comment section, so Joey how about a new series "Joey reacts to internet trolls" I love watching these type of vids, keep up the good work T3

[@OffGridInvestor]

He doesn't have any REAL trolls. People who disagree aren't trolls. Haters aren't trolls. It's the nasties that never go away and start slandering personally that are trolls. And it's Jory not Joey.

[@goboy45]

Casio is a Japanese Company, but their products tend to almost exclusively be made in China. Similar to most other Japanese companies.

[@wakawaka1976]

Seiko is assembled in other countries though right? On most of their watches it says Japan movement. They simply say made in Japan unless it’s the higher end ones. There are a couple I was/am interested in that even list, Malaysian movement. Citizen is typically less made in Japan.

[@24934637]

I bought the Seagull 1963 and it confirmed everything I thought I knew about Chinese quality control. It arrived broken. What DID surprise me was the relatively fast customer service, and the ease of the return process. Once this issue was sorted out, I've become a very pleased owner of a watch which is FAR more accurate than I expected, reliable, and looks great. Very pleased with the purchase, but it's not altered my opinion of Chinese quality control * or lack of it.

[@weixiangtan6701]

I'm currently trying to purchase my first Seagull 1963 but my research has shown that there are so many variations of it that I don't know what is real and what is not?? Anyone has any tips or links to provide to purchase an authentic Seagull I would be really appreciative

[@russjosey2012]

I just ordered a Seagull with a ST25 movement! I had one like it years ago and loved it.

[@mrmagoo.3678]

I was just going to congratulate You for the 95k subscribers, didn't realize this was a older video! 250k? now? lol.. You thanked US for subscribing and helping You but You've been supplying us with Fantastic content dialed right in for us ('scuse the Pun) ..it's appreciated, Thanks Jory.

[@phillipcatto3093]

I love all watches. My favorite is my Omega reduced speedmaster. I love all my watches with ETA 2824 movements

[@williamhill7312]

Great video

[@cezaryspiz3157]

If I wanted to buy your first Shanghai watch, where to start? Which chronograph/aviator/racing should I choose first?

[@92fsoakcreek]

Welcome to the Internet..... The Seagull 1963 Chronograph has a place in watch collecting. Where else can you buy an integrated chronograph ( as opposed to modular), movement for less than $300? The same bias happened post WWII when Japan began making US (and UK) knockoffs. They even created a town in southern Japan named "USA" (pronounced yoosa). lots of tin toys. My first miniature tape player came from Japan in 1960. The US couldnt make those for another 10 years.

[@officialMainspring]

if you love watches, you love watches, period. watch snobs makes me laugh. been studying and collecting watches for over 20+ years. I take the time to learn and appreciate watches from everywhere. they are wonderful things... and fun!

[@walterkiebart9728]

I have a San Martin 62 MAS as a daily Watch and I can recommend this 100 %. Amazing Qualty for the price.

[@the_dietcam]

my dad has 2 parts to his watch collection: nice watches, and beater watches. he likes to wear a watch no matter what, can't blame him. the only issue is that his job is manual labor, and he basically destroys everything he wears. he used to wear a lot of those huge heavy duty invictas, but once he destroys them they're not worth repairing. so now he buys chinese skagen clones on amazon for as little money as possible, and they pretty much last just as long (maybe a year). so maybe someone like I cannot appreciate high-level chinese watchmaking, but there's always a place for garbage. His other watches pretty much consist of citizen promasters, a tag, some seikos, and some other misc nicer brands, and that's pretty much mirrored in my case since i had to learn about watches from somewhere before youtube.

[@the_dietcam]

self-reply: 2 of them are WWOOR if any of you wanted a specific brand. They keep OK time and look alright. They might be korean or something, but who cares, a $16 watch is chinese made shit no matter who physically assembles it.

[@snygg999]

I love my Seagull 1963. I own a couple of Rolex and IWC too.

[@mondrayuk]

Congrats and I am now a new subscriber. You are a lovable character - I shall be tuning in regularly.

[@watchcheapo1801]

Here some great brand name for Chinese Special 1. Seagull 2. Cadisen 3. San Martin 4. Starking 5. Pagani Design 6. Reef Tiger Always enjoy your channel...keep it up

[@totogosu8698]

After seagull....lol and lol and LOL and LOOOOL

[@nealparsons9061]

I love my seagull 63, I love my orient, and i love my Lexus. TBH made in Japan is best and made in china isnt that bad

[@beenthinking2]

I have no issue with "Chinese" watches, and really love the 1963, but you seem to have some of your info wrong. Boldr is a Singapore company, but they, like almost all microbrands, actually make their watches in China. Seiko also makes many of their parts in China, and make almost no watches in Japan anymore (short of GS and higher end Seikos). Casio also makes a lot of their parts, and watches, too, I believe, in China. But this is really what the entire industry is doing. Chris Vail of Nth Watches (another microbrand) uses the same Chinese factory to build his Nth Subs that Omega uses to build their casebacks, at least (he posted a picture of the Seamaster casebacks he took while touring the factory reviewing his own watches. So the point is, many, if not most, watch manufactures (including most "Swiss") have at least some parts of their watches, including the movements, made in China. So it is ignorance when "watch snobs" hate on "Chinese" watches, because almost certainly they are wearing a watch made at least partly in China.

[@DCMetroGecko]

Love your videos. Agree with you on all points. I've got a Seagull 1963 and LOVE it!

[@dodgydruid]

Last summer I bought two Chinese automatics, one a subbie homage called a Military Royale for £13 on a super cool chunky bund strap, the other a shameless Breitling "homage" with a display back, 3 working sub dials, a working rotary slide rule and OK the sub dials worked but just did day, date and 24hr but apart from the sub dial markings being a little different to the real Breitling, with AR and what looks like quality crystal and both watches have kept good time, reliable as a rock and both actually are quite nice looking despite their low price point. I harvested the bund for something else and a 5 ring leather NATO now has the Military Royale on it and it looks and feels good... best £13 spent evah :)

[@wolfgangsteinel1243]

Good video, but please give me a few arguments if people look down on my Seikos or Orients, because (some of) their production facilities may be in China.

[@wolfgangsteinel1243]

Obviously, my 2 arguments are: First, I love them, and second, the quality is really good.

[@marionboren5787]

Most of the swiss companies use parts made in china. I own a lot of watches made in china using Seiko nh35 movements, except my pilot which has a pt5000 ceramic Dial with swiss lume and sapphire crystal, the watch case is flawless, And it only cost me 125.00 I have had and worn this watch for 2 years now with no problems, personally I love watches and enjoy wearing them I don't find it practcal to spend 5 to 40,000 dollars on a watch only to lock it away in a safe, so you don't get robbed. I do like some of the Seiko dive watches and would like to buy a samurai,

[@christopherspearrin5250]

Your comment on the seagull chronograph circa 1963. ,(Venus 175 cal) ..has the thin handset because it's an actual vintage spec remake of a specific watch. I agree with hands in general . But I also understand why the watch has them on it...btw...china bought Venus out and the machines too make that chrono way back...they do a fine job making them ..believe it or not the Chinese actually knock off the seagull chrono...and that exact watch...lol.... ☮️

[@gackhuhn4868]

Funny thing that happended to me. People asked me about my seagull multiple times but never have i been asked about anything about my tudor bb dark. People know shit and youre about to get a lot more attention on you by wearing different styled watches then by wearing Daniel wellington look alikes or divers.

[@eduardodiez3138]

Cant believe that we are 4,700 subscribers to finally now t3 watch collection! Been waiting for this more than the next book of G.R.R. Martin

[@grassIand]

As a Chinese viewer of yours, I think you made a very fair comment on Chinese watches, people should know what they're getting into, do their research, judge watches based on the watch themselves, don't expect to get $20,000 quality out of a $200 Chinese watch or anywhere else in the world, also if you only have $20, Chinese watch is the only option you could even possibly buy a watch for $20, don't take it for granted. Sea-gull is a very honorable and wellpriced Chinese watch brand, good to know there's people appreciating it from overseas, good work as always

[@jakekaywell5972]

There's also HMT watches from India that sell in that same sub-20 USD price bracket, which I would definitely prefer over an equivalent Chinese watch.

[@taj101276]

I have a Starking I bought that runs really great with only +/- a few seconds a day while a much more expensive Dive style watch I bought runs around +/- a minute a day. Agree quality control is potentially lacking and buyer beware for sure.

[@Handlebar-MustDash]

Sea-Gull watches are improving minute by minute. The 1963 movement offers complications unavailable from Switzerland for less than £7,000. Buy a mechanical chronograph from Switzerland for around £130 - it is absolutely impossible. The dual axis tourbillon from Sea-Gull is a phenomenal watch. Beautiful movement and with features that you only find on the likes of Richard Mille for a 6 digit sum. I have 5 different Sea-Gull watches and every model has been exceptional value for the workmanship you get. As wage costs rise in China, these watches are an investment in my view. This kind of workmanship will not be available this cheaply for too much longer.

[@abhishekmukherjee4857]

Review Titan watches if you can find them, they are from India, not the best I would say but they get the job done

[@lukpascal]

Very nice video, can you tell roughly seagull 1963 reserve time? My lasts 6h if not on the hand.is that normal?

[@jimfoster5602]

Hey T3 I dig the watch. I also have several asian watches (Seiko , Citizen, Orient) including a Parnis yachtmaster-ish which I enjoy.

[@tarekalsharif4014]

Great best of luck..I didn't like u in The beginning but no am enjoying ur explaination on watch From different perspective...I would appreciate if u can advise on oiling The watch..to help light reflection for automatic if needed.. basically what the best way to look after it. ..lets say Orient as u are Not always in a place where u could have maintenance workshop And if it's exist it charge too much

[@Holt333]

I want the Seagull 1963... great watch, great rant!! Looking forward to the next vid. Thanks for the Bertucci review, think I’ll go for that until I can get the Boldr Expedition! #T3

[@jackburtonstwin]

That Seagull 1963 boasts a 21 jewel column wheel chronograph movement that originated from the Swiss maker Venus. That's a sound movement. QC can be spotty but a Swiss made watch of comparable spec would cost much more. People need to be realistic about what their money will buy them.

[@joshuaorbito]

Do you thinks Seiko 5 SNK809 is still worth it right now at $80?

[@krigla033]

Hi, bdw. nice video. But i rly like your Straps on youe Seagull 1963. Cann you link me where get it? Tnx

[@ramsha2000]

Please tell me what are the top ten brands coming from China.

[@briancarpenter7687]

Another great topic Jory. I have found through Micro-Brands that there are some really awesome watch manufactures in China and especially in Hong Kong and like you said Singapore. I like Swiss watches but I don't buy because it has a certain name or region on it, I buy because I like the design and the quality is good and you get good value for the money. Mostly it comes down to quality and will I wear it. Thanks again Jory and take care. Brian.

[@paulhelmuth6012]

Jory, I think you have answered this question before (?) but, what is the strap on that 1963? It’s perfect.

[@HappyDude1]

hello sir i really like your review and it looks like you know a lot about it i found a cool watch from the brand shenhua is this any good ?

[@marcurelio]

I'm confused with this Sea-Gull 1963. According to the Sea-Gull store on Ali Express, the real 1963 does not have a see-thru back.

[@bking82]

One question in AliExpress this watch is 160$ but in the store on Seagull it's 300$ so why is this deference? The store is always online forget to tell

[@mrsentencename7334]

Listen, i am not an expert and do not even own a seagull..yet. However from my knowledge pretty much non of them are 'genuine' nowadays. However the original manufacturer has given certain factories permission to make them and as long as the movement inside the watch is correct then that's all that really matters. A true vintage version from back in the day will cost a lot (way more than 300) but some of these 'copies' have improvements such as sapphire class and (if you like it) a see through case back, but they do have the original movement. As long as you can verify the movement is real then there isn't a problem. There's always the seagull store if you want to be extra safe but don't think the Ali express version is garbage because I'm pretty certain they also use the original real parts but it does depend where u order from exactly and I'd double check instead of just listening to me.

[@brandonb595]

Have you ever done a watch collection video?

[@odaizawahreh4224]

I think that a lot of known companies have factories and assembling processes in China like seiko and Casio and so much ! So I saw a lot of gshocks that have a note on it says that the movement is made in Japan and assembled in China so that’s a lot happening that we don’t know about ! China is a good place to create stuff it’s just how much are you willing to pay for it !

[@tomwatchesyoutube]

I'm wanting a 1963, but there are soooo many listings (LIW, Alibaba, uniquewatches, etc) and variations (different subdial hands, swan neck regulator, 19vs21jewels). I'm so confused! Which dealers and models are legit?

[@comradecracker447]

I love the Idk... cheap hands? It’s like the cherry on top that says stare at me. It does look like stamped metal that has more or less rough edges. But it makes it stand out. How bout this, it’s not going to apologize.

[@gunnerman1880]

Wondering if forsining watches are any good jory any info?

[@christianbeaucher5023]

Thanks Jory! Cheers man!

[@joemahdi928]

Man U getting better and better . Keep it up

[@BigDuke6ixx]

On the quality of Chinese watches: just know your movements. A lot of Chinese watches come with bulletproof movements from Seiko and Miyato.

[@Foxtrot-jr5qu]

Nothing wrong with Chinese watches. Some people are going to bash every watch brand if it doesn't have Swiss made on it. Swiss made doesn't mean anything from a long time now, yet people are getting fooled by it.

[@Gundal66]

Most G shocks (beside their High end one which are made in Japan) are made in China and Thailand...

[@wiljan6198]

Not all Chinese makers are born equal, there is actually huge diversification within China. For example, you could even find Dufour counterpart like Qin Gan. For the affordable segment, I think Merkur and Vager Hauers offers exceptional watches.

[@bbboss8532]

What strap is that?

[@karlsenula9495]

Do you think there is a difference between fake, replica and homage watches?

[@NathanielGwee]

Fellow Singaporean here! Singapore is the most expensive city in the world to live in! Get your heads right! Boldr is made in Singappre which costs alot to make

[@9118693223]

this zi zuan chronograph is a reissue as you know of course. it's movement is an old venus caliber , that it's patent is not pending anymore . most of the chinese makers use copy movements . they do not design anything . they just copy anything. it's cheaper . and i am not talking about the replicas . and you do not have to apologise for getting a chinese watch . you like them, it' s acceptable . others hate them, it's acceptable as well .

[@greglewis20]

Seagull and Sea-Gull Sea-Gull is the original 1963. Seagull is the copy

[@CalixaCal]

I played this video at half the speed. LOL!

[@erickm6134]

I have a stauher watch that is automatic and it being a German like name it’s a Chinese watch and it looks cool and no one can tell it’s Chinese unless I say anything. They work pretty good for the past 5 years. Asian watch makers are pretty good as long as they are not (clones or replicas)

[@proadlekopy]

I know Seiko are a good watch company but because of personal reasons i dont want to buy their watches. I guess its stupid but everyone has their preferences. Like your show

[@akhilraj9412]

Have you ever come across Titan Watches? They are an Indian Brand.

[@phillipmoodie9071]

@Akhil Raj. I have a solid gold Titan dress watch that I have worn for the last 20 years as my daily Beater to save the wear and test on my 1987 gold Omega Seamaster, that I used to wear 24/7. It is a very plain watch, with a similar appearance to the Omega dress watch. It is totally reliable and looks as good with a suit as the Omega. I bought it in Melbourne Australia when Titan tried to enter the local market. The case is made to the same quality standards as my Omega, which doesn't surprise me because it was priced at the same level. But in India they have models across the entire spectrum. Based only on the experience I have had with my own watch, with it's very accurate time keeping, the top end of the Titan range mirrors Omega standards. Phil.

[@akhilraj9412]

@@phillipmoodie9071 My Appa (Dad) had an old Titan quartz ..... probably around 1000 Rs ( about 15USD )....worked well for him over 7 years. They do have mechanical watches ....as far as I know they use a miyota movement.

[@phillipmoodie9071]

@@akhilraj9412 Nice memories for you. My father who was in the Australian Navy spent a lot of time in India during the 1940s, where he developed a taste for real Indian curry at a time when all Australian dinners consisted of grilled chops with three vegetables. But my Mother used to regularly make a real Indian curry for my Dad, that I learnt to enjoy. Now with so many Indian students in Australia the CBD is smothered with Indian eating houses. And the locals really enjoy it. But back to watches. Before I bought my current Titan I bought a 1960 vintage gold ladies Titan watch in an antique shop. It was made in Switzerland and carried the logo used by the Indian company, but in spite of intensive searching I cannot find a link between the two businesses. But from time to time you will find the Swiss made Titan watches for sale on eBay. But they all seem to be pre-1960. I have been looking because they were very popular in Australia when I was a teenager, hoping for a watch for my 21st. Phil

[@vonyp6018]

I like the seagul 1963 and is probably the quintessential Chinese watch but wont buy one for a single reason. The handsets are mismatched and once noticed, it cant be unseen. Its a poor design choice to use one subdial with a counterbalance and the other without. they also do subdials with counterbalances on both sides from other factories ( there are about 50 factories making seagul 1963 ) which mismatches with the main handset. theres no consistency with the handset from any of the factories which cheapens the watch IMO. The original handset had no counterbalance on both subdials and this made the original version probably the best from a design perspective but no factory seems to do it this way any longer which is a shame.

[@kylekitchen16]

I think the dislike of Chinese watches come from the fact that a lot of name brands outsourced to China to increase their profits only to wind up subsidizing knock-offs, counterfeits, and copies. It's not just a quality thing, it is the fact that Chinese watches are leading to the slow demise of uniquely innovative and distinct watch brands that used to represent the skill of labor and design for countries such as Switzerland, Germany, Japan, France, and the U.S. There are some really cool watches to come out of Hong Kong, but I find a lot of them are glitzy bling, lacking the refinement and sheer class of legacy watch makers. Additionally, some of these Chinese watches aren't even cheap, there are some extremely expensive Chinese watches out there whose price over cost margins must be enormous; brands like Longio, Rossini, and Memorigin. Another factor is that China doesn't respect trademarks and many of their watches use well known trademarks without license...Anybody want a Pagani watch? I can't make one in my country without infringement, but China can and does. Imagine if you built up a legacy around a brand name or work of art et cetera and some manufacturer steals your intellectual property and drives it right off a cliff and collects the insurance, metaphorically speaking. I can respect a watch from Malaysia, Taiwan, or Singapore because those are Asian countries that completely respect intellectual property and offer a high degree of quality control in general, unlike the PRC.

[@thomasflynn5366]

I have a Starking AM0184. For $40 I don't think you can beat it. Just realize you are buying a $40 watch and not a $400 watch and you won't be disappointed. Same goes for my Cadisen and Loreo. Look good. Run good. If they die I will throw them away without shedding a tear.

[@GuillermoGonzalez-hz4um]

T3 thanks for all you do!

[@gerrybaker7055]

China can produce high quality just as easily as low; we just don't want to pay for anything made well in China. The perception of things coming from there being cheap/low quality comes from most distributors wanting to buy the cheaper items with greater margins. I wouldnt expect a $15 Chinese automatic and a $150 Chinese automatic to be the same, but most of us will only ever see the $15 one and assume that's all they have to offer. Goes for every type of material good you can buy.

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

Not true. China can't produce as high quality all the time, because it often requires tons of acquired knowledge and experience. That being said it doesn't mean everything they make is bad nor are they limited to low quality. It just takes a lot of time and investment to get to the higher end quality.

[@saurabhjibhenkar4396]

Which beard oil do you use? 😎

[@AQuietNight]

I had bought 2 Chinese watches... 1 ran 2 days, the other 3 days. Beats a watch I bought in Mexico and it lasted a half hour.

[@UsernameInvalidTHIS]

Plenty of G's are made in China tbf, Jory. I don't think you can buy a Japanese made G-Shock for under $250.

[@dm9078]

There are a lot of Chinese watches that are crap. They’re called MVMNT. As far as the Starking being wild cards. I have watched at least a half dozen reviews by people from Australia to Canada to Germany. And they all sing the praises of Starking.

[@angiefav1847]

Yes l agree with you l am wearing a chinese watch right now and l love it, china makes good bad of anything, mine is a beautiful 42mm pilots watch bottom line if it works well and you enjoy the product you have a good watch

[@defjodor1]

I just got my first homage watch, pagani gmt batman. Do not see why I would not love it, it is realy good for the cost. Beating all designer watches by far.