Everything We Know About 5.2 Natlan, Ochkanatlan & Abyss Wayobs | Genshin Lore & Theory, Natlan

[@kotarouinugami1745]

In my opinion, Ictomisauruses are similar not to owls or ravens, but to bats. Huge ears, like to wrap themselves in their wings like a cloak, and are associated with NIGHT-wind. They also seem to fly very differently from flower-feather clan's bird-like Saurians. Or maybe they're meant to be a mix of multiple animals, for extra mysteriousness.

[@TheBilayer]

True according to the tralier, the Ictomisauruses have used night vision and echo location, which a bat and owl uses.

[@Dante45p]

yeah theyre bat/owls and named after a spider sprit form Lakota myths

[@geogodzhongli]

ochkanatlan could be my favourite area in natlan, can't wait to explore it next week

[@MnatlaniDaima]

Great video, but something caught my attention toward the end. I've been analyzing the elements for some time now and you just helped me out big time. The Issue: From 15:28 onwards: "But electro has been one of the elements that hide the more hidden meanings and secrets of things in Teyvat." Then examples listed (of Lisa, Fischl, Raiden Shogun and Yae Miko, Cyno, Sethos, Scaramouche, Clorinde, Ororon, Iansan) to prove that electro involves revelation of lore and truth and the concept of 'eyes'. Iktomisaurs' and Ororon's abilities resemble the functions of the memento lens given in Inazuma to reveal hidden details. Citlali being the odd one because she's cryo instead of electro. My Thoughts: - You're right! You've opened my eyes. Electro does involve hidden information. I'm impressed. - It further proves that Natlan has two tribes that are both affiliated with electro: Masters of the Night-Wind, and Collective of Plenty. And it makes sense for me. I'll do a video on this. Thank you so much for your insight, Aru. - Citlali being the odd one is fine, actually. Simply because the Masters of the Night-Wind focus on the unseen and hidden revelations does not mean all vision bearers from the tribe have to be electro. What they have in common are the occupation and culture, and methods, which are mystic arts. Ororon learned mystic arts from Citlali. So Citlali isn't odd. Actually it is fascinating that she's cryo. The fact that Natlan does not acknowledge the cryo element is mindblowing. CRYO IS SUS. Once again, thank you.

[@patrykburski2148]

Ictomisaurus are anemone, and wuqosaurus are puro. There is no cryo saurians

[@AruHiseki]

No cryo in Natlan o.o have fun with your theory! Cryo and electro are very much suspucious elements. electro's similar colors to abyss is also sus

[@MnatlaniDaima]

​@@AruHiseki Actually I've had a lot of back and forth in my analysis till now. I've had a change of mind after reading the lore of the Prayers for Illumination, Prayers for Destiny, Prayers for Wisdom and Prayers to Springtime, and checking several Cryo lifeforms. I'm now inclined to believe Masters of the Night-Wind are indeed Cryo-affiliated. The Iktomisaurs themselves seem to be Anemo because they can fly, but the color is a bit different from Anemo. I'd say they are Cryo, rather than Anemo, because of their ability of perception. That, or, they are Cryo-Anemo creatures, because they are inspired by spirit beings.

[@erickalynch4522]

​@@MnatlaniDaimaI think one thing people seem to mess with those bat owl things is the attack you with a a shard. Yes they are so hit you with air but also in the air is an ice shard. I kept getting confused about the ice shard hit me anytime I get close to them let them attack me for a bit just to make sure it was from them. So saying there is no ice elements in this nation is a lie.

[@lathamtk]

8:25 Citlali is close to 200 years old, but not over. Some Natlanese girl said "instead of being a granny, it would be more accurate to say my great-great-great [...] grandmother" but citlali says in some cutscene she's "not even 200 years old yet" or some such... maybe this was said when talking about lazying around the house in pajamas or some-such... I'm too lazy to check right now.

[@kotarouinugami1745]

That strange feeling when a random melusine visiting People of the Springs is twice as old as Citlali. I guess it's the same feeling as when Ganyu is 7 times as old as Yae Miko.

[@NguyenQuynhAnhA-oz4og]

No, she said that she "doesn't want to live like that till she's 500 years old", so she is not yet 500. But pretty sure she is over 200 for being great-something grandmother of someone.

[@OrangeBanana836]

I think this is the first patch where I'm more hype for the world quest than the actual archon quest (interlude)

[@AruHiseki]

true hype! cant even tell which is WQ and which is Interlude coz most of it is in Ochanatlan lol

[@Schnubi]

It's crazy how we got Mare Jivari lore back when the game first released. Back then I would always look into the non rendered hills of the out of bounds areas and fantasize, what the future maps could look like. In my mind Mare Jivari was always grey and ashy and dark. And not a part of the main Teyvat map (just like Enkanomiya or the Chasm underground)

[@andrewrios4462]

Ochkanatlan is inspired by the Mayan ruins of Tulum Quintana Roo, Mexico or the archaeological zone of Tikal. Och kaan is a Mayan word that means boa or rat snake. In Mesoamerican tradition, the snake is associated with the fertility and reproductive powers of the earth. In Mayan culture, the snake was a calendar sign of good fortune.

[@immortalwolf1909]

This video was so well made, put together everything I wanted to see -- cant wait for more! subbed

[@AruHiseki]

glad you liked it! :D

[@AMWmyu00]

12:13 in CN text translation it is Sage (singular, not plural). who was titled sage in Kha'enriah: *Hroptatyr the Wise* one of sinners -man who gassed vinster king Irmin to crash Teyvat, Pierro couldn't cancel because he was only a royal mage

[@AruHiseki]

Ohhh this i did not know, thanks for pointing it out!

[@themadderhatter8528]

I am excited because of the statues of morax in qingce being a dragon person and Xiao saying those statues are directly made in morax's image

[@GDL25]

I have a phobia of moths, so the first thing I noticed was Iktomisauruses resemblance to them. It could be a coincidence tho since moths also share similarities with bats like echolocation and nocturne life. But I think the way butterflies/moths are seen as messengers between the world of the death and the mortal realm (particularly in aztec mythology), the eye-like motifs in the wings, the fluffy face with big antennae, etc., makes it pretty connected. And there's also the goddess Itzapapálotl known as Obsidian Butterfly, with motifs representing her based apparently on the emperor moth

[@mickysaif]

i thought masters of the night wind was cryo tribe and collective of plenty is electro but it's the other way around from what you said

[@alexandrebatista8600]

Nice video I like when people make connections between the elements and existing concepts connected to them like how u said dendro is knowledge and tech and electro is related to insight and a sort of third eye. I like how Citlali is cryo I don’t think every tribe’s vision holders and ancient name bearers should have the same element but I like that there’s a theme deeper lore to why each tribe has it’s obvious element connection.

[@AruHiseki]

yeap, aligning elements with certain concepts is always fun. Iansan's element is also same as Ororon so we're still missing one of the tribes :D

[@pinkarmillaria]

Elements in relation to tribes don't make much sense generally, and i'm starting to think that's intended by developers. Like phlogiston actually fucks up elements of PO and they do not work in Natlan as we'd expect

[@Dante45p]

its partly since its always element + pyro is how i see it

[@ferend4038]

​@@Dante45phah.. maybe there is no cryo because pyro on cryo is forward reaction(it eats all cryo on enemy, not like reverse reactions aka cryo on pyro or pyro on hydro(and hydro on dendro) what leaves some aura)

[@CelVini]

​@@ferend4038iktomisaur looks a lot of Cryo

[@kan_kan_1713]

"The wind doesn't blow in the Mare Javari." I think i can understand this better now with what info we have now. So since Natlans lay lines are just plain fucked, i think this could be the key. Hans gave Venti Stanley's soul because Stanly wasn't from Nattlan. So Stanley probably couldn't enter the night kingdom, like other adventurers that came from outside of Natlan. This is just surface level, and I hope to learn more with the inclusion of the Mare Javari later.

[@angelreyes8467]

his right in first part!!

[@HonkaiBane]

I just realized that the sun is under a false sky

[@deathwingthedestroyer3632]

0:56 I think that’s the Sacred Flame, or well A sacred flame.

[@unknownboy240]

18:8 also in sumure there's some tower think with dendro glass that revels weathering cores .. some of them can revele Hidden aranas if you use electo on them

[@kotarouinugami1745]

The glass is a "tri-lakshasa creature". All of them reveal hidden things when struck by electricity. Yes, that includes the bouncy mushrooms.

[@AruHiseki]

thank you for pointing this out! :D

[@HonkaiBane]

Electro has some power to break illusions. Some Raiden boss attacks are examples of this. This is also connected to the real archon Makoto who died in the abyss. I don't want to spoil it, but I have a theory about what really happened in Khaenhia.

[@wamsjams]

My Little Pony: Destinies Of Magic, because I can’t ever let go of gen 4 and the hold it had on me.

[@phasenishh2446]

1:05 what is the background music called?

[@lithi0189]

"Inheritance of an Ancient Name"

[@phasenishh2446]

@ thanks

[@Chareddragon]

If I remember correctly St Lali is only around 200 years old

[@marcusbullock2753]

I like to believe celestia betrayed teyvat for letting it get this out of hand.

[@mitab1]

Blame the dragon king for being the abyss to teyvat, Also the primordial one is long gone but life on teyvat was great under their reign in fact after natlan it seems that the primordial one allowed the dragon civilisation to continue existing under the rule that they don’t mess with humanity, after all if the dragon civilisation fell during the war of vengeance that means it existed during the primordial one’s reign, it seems the only people Phanes has actually wronged was the dragon sovereigns but not all of the dragon race, in fact it seems that it’s thanks the the dragon king and his abyssal corruption that that the dragon civilisation fell, it seems that the pyro dragon sovereign kept his ruling over his dragons until the abyss took over him and he destroyed his own civilisation

[@Chris_MarMar]

The guy with the aura that you're talking about could be the Lavawalker, maybe?

[@TheBilayer]

Ochkanatlan probably inspired by Machu Picchu Chasca could be referencing to Chasqui or a goddess of Inca.

[@adiaphoros6842]

Funnily, the Flower-Feather clan's aesthetic is more Wild West than Incan.

[@TheBilayer]

@@adiaphoros6842 Well the gun design is kinda off

[@jaredgosnell4547]

what music is playing at the start of the video?

[@mickysaif]

natlan battle theme

[@MissusFail]

Help, what's the name of the OST during the "Lost Souls" segment? I went to hoyomix and into their natlan playlist but couldn't find it or completely flew by it due to different starting vibes or something

[@AruHiseki]

cant remember the name but... its when Mualani got her ancient name awakened in 5.0. hope it helps :D

[@nettedteeth]

Yippee!

[@Angelofdeth2947]

Columbina related creatures love it

[@theshard5697]

I really wish ANYONE pronounced Mare Jivari ori Mappa Mare correctly... alas...

[@AruHiseki]

it rolls off the tongue 😂

[@theshard5697]

@AruHiseki i wasnt praising you, you're not saying right either 👀

[@AruHiseki]

@@theshard5697 i know, i meant the way i speak it just rolls off my tongue. cant help saying it incorrectly XD

[@kupo5632]

Are u a filipino fellow? Almost similar accent with peeps

[@AruHiseki]

yessirrr!

[@kupo5632]

Just cuz of that, i subscribed

[@kupo5632]

@@AruHisekigood editing skills btw

[@raraavis5418]

4 days ago wtf ?

[@ame-vz2ni]

Hiiiiii

[@sweatygoblin2335]

Iktomisaur are Anemo-aligned, IIRC.

[@Btw_13]

I doubt that because the masters of the night winds Wayob manifestation is cryo and the flower feather clans Wayob manifestation is pyro

[@munchielitten5961]

The book of the pale princess and the “six” 6 pigmies lumine and the six kheanriahn sinners but one didnt want to harm her dain yet is still a traitor as he is a sinner and may be what the abyss order was founded on and lumine was impaled the pale princess what attacked in that book and was in need of healing one of the pigmies was shocked and was tasked of protecting her till she woke up dain may have been that one sane pigmies dispite being a sinner so istorath told dain to keep lumine safe since the destruction of kheanraih was un avoidable and the abyss was calling to her thanks to dains brother so vedifulneor messed up lumines memories like a loom of fate rather then just telling her he impalnted memories of what the abyss thinks of dain now shes acting on it and sees teyvat as a whole as a prison and that the gods are evil andnthe thrones must be wiped out along with them focalors is already gone so nothing there and that sacred the abyss sibling lumine she didnt know what to think of that but she knows its only a matter of time before the heavens wake up and do something about all this arrogation and sin

[@HonkaiBane]

I never trusted Dain, people like him are almost always villains. This guy should be caught and interrogated. The six is a diabolical number Dain is guilty. We now have The Six archons perfect match