Everything We Learned AFTER Baby Reindeer

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This story just won't end. For this video, WatchMojoUK uncovers Everything We Learned AFTER Baby Reindeer. We're looking at criticisms of Netflix, the show's fallout, and the real woman behind Richard Gadd's harrowing stalker, Martha Scott. Could Netflix have done more, or are those internet sleuths to blame for violating a woman’s privacy? Let us know your thoughts.
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@WatchMojoUK
@WatchMojoUK 25 күн бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Piers Morgan Interview? 10 Important Details That Baby Reindeer Left Out kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3XUoGBsltilrrM
@felipepavzin9440
@felipepavzin9440 25 күн бұрын
The Worsrt Interview that i ever see
@felipepavzin9440
@felipepavzin9440 25 күн бұрын
SHAME ON YOU TalkTV, SHAME ON YOU
@sueb4821
@sueb4821 24 күн бұрын
I'm 🇨🇦 First full interview I watched with him. I think he should be embarrassed. There was no need to talk down to her. He didnt interview if you ask me he treated her like she was a hostile witness. 💯🇨🇦
@boobopish
@boobopish 24 күн бұрын
I thought it was a great interview. I also thought she was lying.
@ElanaVital83
@ElanaVital83 24 күн бұрын
​@@sueb4821She literally was a hostile person who lied several times throughout. He was actually gentle with her
@ReubenAStern
@ReubenAStern 24 күн бұрын
You know the part where Martha slams her fists on the table and yells "Someone hurt you! I WANT NAMES!!" that's what the internet is doing.
@brianajadepatt
@brianajadepatt 23 күн бұрын
the show unintentionally produced more Martha's
@melissaroszkowski8911
@melissaroszkowski8911 25 күн бұрын
I do understand why people want his rapist identified. Predators don't stop. I understand not wanting to open old wounds however, there could have been other victims.
@nutcracker2916
@nutcracker2916 25 күн бұрын
Although because of speculation over who it could be ? Thankfully it might act as a deterrent for this "alleged" predator .
@deputykirby
@deputykirby 25 күн бұрын
I've read that he's said people in the industry know exactly who he is but he's too high up and powerful for anyone to touch him
@margaretsheehan9264
@margaretsheehan9264 25 күн бұрын
He should have made the story about him rather then Martha and had Martha the small part fs
@MrBluebirds22
@MrBluebirds22 25 күн бұрын
Yet he was more than happy to bring up Martha
@jameshall9654
@jameshall9654 25 күн бұрын
@@MrBluebirds22by all accounts he has evidence of her misdeeds but conversely probably can’t prove the same for the sex offender
@kyodemer2590
@kyodemer2590 23 күн бұрын
She says she didn’t watch the series but knows all the details and timeline of the story in the show, down to the actress’s physical appearance and hometown (despite also claiming she doesn’t know the actress either). She keeps slipping up and contracting herself throughout the entire interview. Piers cornered her a few times towards the end. How do people even question the whole story is beyond me. Some details might be exaggerated to make the show more entertaining but I don’t believe her attempts to downplay the situation one bit. The fact that a stalker can get a platform to speak up and try to spin the story in their favor is insane.
@mcostagirl123
@mcostagirl123 8 күн бұрын
Not necessarily. In order to make a legal case she might’ve read the script of the show or simply read details about the show online.
@glassonion5474
@glassonion5474 4 күн бұрын
Do you really believe she tracked down the script ( how does one do that?) instead of watching it? What is on KZbin does not give you a full picture at all. I don't have Netflix. I've never seen it but I am intrigued. She knows alot more about the details and intricate storyline than me!! I'd love to see it.
@jasongoodacre
@jasongoodacre 24 күн бұрын
I think Martha is completely innocent Sent from my iphon
@Jac5inCo
@Jac5inCo 15 күн бұрын
Perfect.
@bananayummyable
@bananayummyable 14 күн бұрын
I agree weht yo iPhoen
@Slope114
@Slope114 8 күн бұрын
Best comment ! 😂
@user-qp8cl8ov2c
@user-qp8cl8ov2c 3 күн бұрын
😂
@elalbert1975
@elalbert1975 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@marietailor3100
@marietailor3100 24 күн бұрын
I’m sorry. She stalked him IN PUBLIC. If she’s on Twitter and Facebook commenting on his stuff, she can’t be mad that the internet found out.
@LucyStormbringerLastic
@LucyStormbringerLastic 21 күн бұрын
Exactly. She's overjoyed to be connected to him again. She's a very sick individual; who outed herself. Nobody but her has said she is the character. Netflix won't and neither will Gadd. SHE has to then prove it's her they're talking about in a court of law. That is going to be fascinating as.
@whadis404
@whadis404 8 күн бұрын
She’s so upset that now SHE is being harassed!
@annbell8748
@annbell8748 6 күн бұрын
He set her up. Genius move! ❤🎉🎉🎉
@CagedWren
@CagedWren 25 күн бұрын
She’s exactly how he wrote her ahah the story was probably exaggerated, I never took it as absolute truth, it’s made for entertainment and storytelling but I bet it wasn’t far off
@profoundwanderer1441
@profoundwanderer1441 25 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@rebeccabaldwin9594
@rebeccabaldwin9594 25 күн бұрын
I feel like she’s made it worse for herself.. She contradicted herself in the Pierce Morgan interview.
@Chee235
@Chee235 24 күн бұрын
Should not state that it’s a true story then.
@sinthechestnut
@sinthechestnut 19 күн бұрын
@@Chee235 it's *based* on a true story. based😮
@connerjohnson971
@connerjohnson971 19 күн бұрын
@@sinthechestnutit never says “based On” or “inspired by” both the show and Netflix executives confirm “this is a true story” interesting to see if a case of defamation comes from it, she’s no doubt not all there in real life but if they’ve dramatised convictions and evidence then could be a sticky one for them. Baffled me there wasn’t more probing on the sexual assaults
@whitto6546
@whitto6546 25 күн бұрын
Dont want to be outed as a predator? Dont be a predator. Its pretty fucking simple
@brianajadepatt
@brianajadepatt 23 күн бұрын
My mom is a lawyer and said she can't sue because they never mentioned her and she outed herself
@LucyStormbringerLastic
@LucyStormbringerLastic 21 күн бұрын
Yep. I'm not a lawyer and I know this because I understand the system. I wish others would try to understand how it all works. In a defamation case the onus is on her to prove that she's the person they're talking about - nobody in their right mind would lay their whole life out like that or be advised to. The case is flimsy at best. The KC saying she has a case is full of it. How did he get to be a KC? He didn't do due diligence and check anything.
@brianajadepatt
@brianajadepatt 20 күн бұрын
@@LucyStormbringerLastic Exactlyy. How is she an attorney? is she lying about that?
@somethingclever8916
@somethingclever8916 10 күн бұрын
I agree. Netflix owes her nothing
@PhilT81
@PhilT81 25 күн бұрын
One thing is clear - at least one of them is a massive liar! I’m pretty sure she’s telling lies.
@gewurztramina
@gewurztramina 25 күн бұрын
Richard Gaad said in an interview that he had gone to “great lengths” to disguise the real Martha from the character, so that she would find it hard to identify herself. That’s an absolute lie. The character and the real person are like twins
@gewurztramina
@gewurztramina 25 күн бұрын
They look so alike that it’s hard to avoid thinking that Richard Gaad wanted people to find her in real life.
@angelbaybay5874
@angelbaybay5874 25 күн бұрын
I think Richard said they went to get lengths to hide the identities was to throw everyone off like if people looked, they would be looking at the opposite version of the character in the show and it backfired. I don’t think he expected this to get as big as it has so things weren’t thought through. My thing is, this Fiona woman has come out herself and admitted it’s her while also saying it’s not her but it’s her? Lol she’s brought this on herself and quite frankly, I think she loves the attention she’s getting. What she should have done if she felt she’s been defamed was instruct her lawyers to contact Netflix and negotiate behind the scenes about what could be done to help her moving forward. I hope she’s gets the help she clearly needs and I hope Richard is ok having to justify his truth.
@ElanaVital83
@ElanaVital83 24 күн бұрын
​@@gewurztraminaAre you seriously saying there's a shortage of overweight white women??
@gewurztramina
@gewurztramina 23 күн бұрын
@@ElanaVital83 It’s sad that you can’t see there’s more to people than just their weight and skin color
@bdizzle5359
@bdizzle5359 25 күн бұрын
I don't feel sorry for her at all. She's a sociopath. She knows right from wrong. She put him and others through hell. She was a convicted stalker before this. Obviously, the system failed her. She needed help, and they didn't give it to her. Being convicted before, she knew what she was doing was wrong. This is just my opinion. I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone else.
@howlieMCFC
@howlieMCFC 25 күн бұрын
It’s weird how the main protagonist is the stalker yet the rapist gets away with not much of an episode,by the way the lady who played Martha deserves an Oscar absolutely stunning performance 👏🏻👏🏻
@Chee235
@Chee235 24 күн бұрын
Yes and she was not actually ever charged with stalking.
@Chee235
@Chee235 24 күн бұрын
It’s misogynistic
@emgbelike4957
@emgbelike4957 24 күн бұрын
Maybe the goal is not to make a star off the rapist but he should be expose and bring to justice.
@ElanaVital83
@ElanaVital83 24 күн бұрын
​@Chee235 Stop it. She was behaving abusive and holding her accountable is not misogyny
@Deltaaaaaaaaa
@Deltaaaaaaaaa 23 күн бұрын
@@ElanaVital83I’m assuming Chee was being sarcastic
@billysaunders544
@billysaunders544 25 күн бұрын
Her voice is exactly like Marthas
@TheConorsmithusa
@TheConorsmithusa 25 күн бұрын
That's the idea
@Taketheredpill2023
@Taketheredpill2023 25 күн бұрын
Convict half of scottish people then as all scottish females sound the same
@billysaunders544
@billysaunders544 25 күн бұрын
@@TheConorsmithusa ha! I guess she could have just copied the real ladies voice mails
@W1ZY
@W1ZY 23 күн бұрын
So what?
@billysaunders544
@billysaunders544 23 күн бұрын
@W1ZY her acting is impressive, wow, the Internet is full of cheery people
@victoriam9337
@victoriam9337 25 күн бұрын
Poor Gadd, it just won’t end.
@HorrorandScience
@HorrorandScience 25 күн бұрын
The woman is lying for sure. The guilty as hell love to sue. She did out herself in the first place which is on her.
@deib2719
@deib2719 25 күн бұрын
she literally ratted herself out by giving this attention, she couldve just kept quiet but as she is on the show she didnt LMAO
@nutcracker2916
@nutcracker2916 25 күн бұрын
@@deib2719 Also she kept mentioning the allegations on her social media. In a kind of warped way, she seems to be enjoying the attention.
@aqualane1
@aqualane1 25 күн бұрын
If she’s a stalker she’s going to love seeing him in court. Stalkers don’t care if it’s good terms or bad ad long as there’s contact.
@annieromero145
@annieromero145 25 күн бұрын
Of course she’s gonna deny it. I’ve never seen a stalker or an abuser being honest.
@HopeColitz-qc9gh
@HopeColitz-qc9gh 24 күн бұрын
There’s no arrest or conviction or trial. That is a lie. Man we love hating on women in this country.
@anjulikamins6420
@anjulikamins6420 25 күн бұрын
Maybe this is what he finally had to do to get her to leave him alone? 🤔
@brooke6848
@brooke6848 25 күн бұрын
Claimed to have deleted X (twitter) but she hasn’t and if you look at how many times per day she tweets that will answer who’s the liar.
@jessicasedlacek8585
@jessicasedlacek8585 25 күн бұрын
How many?
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 25 күн бұрын
That may all be true. But Netflixs mistake is they showed her getting arrested and being sentenced to jail for 9 months. If that's true then she won't sue. If she didn't go to prison and was never arrested than she can sue and win, no matter how many emails were sent.
@ambergarsia5168
@ambergarsia5168 21 күн бұрын
Her Facebook is terrifying
@jessicasedlacek8585
@jessicasedlacek8585 21 күн бұрын
@@ambergarsia5168 why?
@LucyStormbringerLastic
@LucyStormbringerLastic 21 күн бұрын
@@michael-4k4000 Even gadd said she wasn't convicted way before she outed herself. SHE outed herself, and she is reveling in being connected to Gadd again. He's the object of her affection and she's a happy camper being associated with him. He won't out her, and neither will Netflix. She has to prove it's her they're talking about. Fun times ahead if she decides to sue.
@syntrexfpv1347
@syntrexfpv1347 25 күн бұрын
Her bringing up lawsuits was the worst thing she could ever have done. It's all speculation till the emails get released..
@user-uu1ru5de4g
@user-uu1ru5de4g 25 күн бұрын
If the emails don't show she will win the lottery
@Chee235
@Chee235 24 күн бұрын
But also she has no criminal record. She was literally depicted as a convicted criminal but she’s never been charged let alone served time. So I hope she gets paid well.
@MissTeeTime
@MissTeeTime 24 күн бұрын
@@Chee235 evidence?
@syntrexfpv1347
@syntrexfpv1347 24 күн бұрын
@@Chee235 You seem to be pretty certain of that. As if you are taking the word of a mentally ill women rather than the Lawyers at Netflix.. Also you realize She changed her last name. There is no public evidence that she did not serve time or that she did currently so you like many people are just making assumptions and speculations.
@syntrexfpv1347
@syntrexfpv1347 24 күн бұрын
@@user-uu1ru5de4g no the only part about this entire situation that is defamatory is saying she is a convict. Everything else stated does not constitute any breaking of any law. Pierce had a lawyer on the following day who explained that the jail sentence is the only part of this that would lead towards defamation.
@margaretsheehan9264
@margaretsheehan9264 25 күн бұрын
I think we are all turning into stalkers I for one can't stop watching things about Martha 😂😂
@laineybell596
@laineybell596 25 күн бұрын
I’m starting to find the whole thing creepy, we are stalking them and bragging about it, everyone is obsessed with it. Something just doesn’t make sense about the whole thing. It’s got the weirdest vibes
@margaretsheehan9264
@margaretsheehan9264 25 күн бұрын
@@laineybell596 I know is it the way they both want it to work? I feel the same stalker 🤣🤣
@peterkearns6962
@peterkearns6962 24 күн бұрын
On interview she says she has photographic memory but she can’t remember her grades she also mentioned she’s not got an old smart phone but later on she says she has 4 phones and 6 email addresses she uses I do think some parts of the story might have been exaggerated but think she’s tripped herself up on interview
@dannyball9844
@dannyball9844 25 күн бұрын
People have pointed out it seemed as if Piers held back a bit. He might have been consulted by a councilor beforehand. He could have ripped into her but just got the facts
@kanothe187
@kanothe187 25 күн бұрын
I experienced a similar situation and based on what I can tell that woman is a covert narcissist. When Pierce asked a question she called him obsessive. That is an example of DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim Order). She denies they really know each other that well, yet he knows information she trauma dumped about her childhood 🚩 He's according to her homosexual yet also he came on to her and she rejected him🚩 He needs to "get a real job" yet has done massively "financially well off the show" 🚩 She quit Facebook days before the interview, where she could likely be asked to show her messages. Also has more than 2 phones. 🚩 Grandiose self image in terms of discussing all these important lawyer friends/political career 🚩 Anyone who from her past who has a negative view of her actions and felt victimised by her are the victimisers of her 🚩
@susannahhunt100
@susannahhunt100 25 күн бұрын
His name is Piers. Why do some people call him Pierce? My name is Susannah and I am often called Susan. It's so annoying.
@rebeccabaldwin9594
@rebeccabaldwin9594 25 күн бұрын
⁠@@susannahhunt100why does this bother you so much? This isn’t about you. But somehow you’re making it about you.
@cherrytraveller5915
@cherrytraveller5915 25 күн бұрын
@@susannahhunt100 It was probably autocorrect
@nataliaalfonso2662
@nataliaalfonso2662 25 күн бұрын
She isn’t covert at all. She’s constantly bragging about grandiose things, most of which never happened. She’s a grandiose narcissist with BPD who is very clearly on the spectrum. Very fractured underdeveloped psyche
@susannahhunt100
@susannahhunt100 24 күн бұрын
@@rebeccabaldwin9594 Where have I said this is about me?
@TheTurkaderr
@TheTurkaderr 21 күн бұрын
It's Gadd's life, his story, why the hell does he or Netflix owe anyone protection or privacy ? If he's libeling or defaming maybe, but if it's all true, then it's not his job to hide them, he is allowed to tell his story. This kind of talk is yet another reason why abuse victims suffer in silence and never come forward. To hell with keeping Fiona private, especiallly since she stuck her nose into all of this. I cannot wait to see forensic people tear her and her lies apart.And we should know the name of this producer, because as an actor I'd like to know who the hell I don't want to work with.
@newcastletillidie6607
@newcastletillidie6607 24 күн бұрын
Never making anyone a cup of tea again.
@masontrotter6272
@masontrotter6272 23 күн бұрын
Scrolling through the comments. It pisses me off that people don’t know the difference between something being “Based on a true story” vs the bland “The true story”
@amandajoyr1
@amandajoyr1 22 күн бұрын
IF she wants her tweets to be private she, or anyone else, should NOT speak or write on a public forum. (and then complain when everyone listens or identifies them).
@h-dawg969
@h-dawg969 25 күн бұрын
Fiona is such a fitting name
@debbiemaguire
@debbiemaguire 25 күн бұрын
She outted herself, she’ll ride on the back of the series for her own 15 minutes of fame. Let’s not forget this wasn’t the first time she had been accused.
@CeCe-xv1fr
@CeCe-xv1fr 25 күн бұрын
She really needs locked up. To think she was 34 when she was stalking the mp. Then in her 50s when she was stalking Richard. Absolute madness. She needs mental health help.
@HopeColitz-qc9gh
@HopeColitz-qc9gh 24 күн бұрын
There is no record of an arrest or jail time. How is it a true story with no evidence of jail?
@a.demifemiflapo5795
@a.demifemiflapo5795 23 күн бұрын
​@@HopeColitz-qc9ghIt's like 50% true to give the story some "good ending" 😂
@BibiCameron
@BibiCameron 21 күн бұрын
@@HopeColitz-qc9gh Is it really that what is important?... or were you led to believe that the arrest is what matters in the whole story? or that she didn't drink Diet Coke but lemonade? What do you think should be important here? The woman is a stalker. For a victim of stalking, there is no small or big crime... it is devastating. Sadly stalkers who cause so much grief and pain never go to jail unless they kill someone and they have done it. If she is mentally ill she needs protection. No to be exposed in Piers show.
@lizkrisenthal8259
@lizkrisenthal8259 20 күн бұрын
@@HopeColitz-qc9ghshe was struck off for her stalking previously. She has a criminal record. Richard Gadd has stated that he never pressed charges because he didn’t feel right about it since she’s mentally ill.
@EauRouge
@EauRouge 25 күн бұрын
...that's what a psycho stalker would say.
@Obihann
@Obihann 25 күн бұрын
Her information/tweets were 'Out In The Public Domain!'. Therefore, they're no longer private! Even she knows that.
@LucyStormbringerLastic
@LucyStormbringerLastic 21 күн бұрын
Exactly. Nobody uncovered them by hacking into her account. She left them all visible. She wanted to be outed. She is very obsessed with him and happy to be associated with him again - if in fact she is the person Gadd was talking about in the series. The "conviction" stuff is a furphy. He said she wasn't convicted and used it to give closure to the watcher. It's a nothingburger. I have no idea why people are concentrating on it like they are. She has to prove that she's the person they're talking about which means in a court of law she has to share it all. LOL It's why she won't sue. This isn't the only person she's terrified over her lifetime.
@linseyshearer9848
@linseyshearer9848 25 күн бұрын
Made me giggle when bbc said it would have never happened with them did they no keep jimmy savle pot kettle
@amybishop9787
@amybishop9787 24 күн бұрын
You could tell for a nano second that the female journalist knew she was talking BS - let’s also add into that Hugh Edward’s and Martin Bashir
@hannahfoltz9826
@hannahfoltz9826 14 күн бұрын
This is English but not United States English
@Panwere36
@Panwere36 25 күн бұрын
One thing we learned after: They hired an actress that looks so much like her they could be sisters.
@Meg-A-Saurus
@Meg-A-Saurus 25 күн бұрын
The voice, too..spot on!
@Panwere36
@Panwere36 25 күн бұрын
@@Meg-A-Saurus , exactly.
@fargotua13
@fargotua13 25 күн бұрын
Daughter perhaps?
@Panwere36
@Panwere36 25 күн бұрын
@@fargotua13 , also would be a possibility.
@BibiCameron
@BibiCameron 21 күн бұрын
the actress doesn't look like her at all. The acting maybe. that is the point.
@parelpaardje
@parelpaardje 25 күн бұрын
I think a few things should have brought up in the interview, for example she said she didn't even know where he lived but later on she says she sent him 1 letter, for which she would need his address. Also why hasn't anyone looked up if her arrest warrants were real? She said she had never been convicted for anything, in the show it says she already did 4.5 years for a previous charge and then did another 9 months later. But that should have been easy to fact check for Pierce🤷🏼‍♀️.
@fargotua13
@fargotua13 25 күн бұрын
The letter could be sent to his workplace; pub or theater. Morgan showed few tweets in where she is asking Gadd if he received the letter.
@user-es6wx9sv7g
@user-es6wx9sv7g 25 күн бұрын
If you don’t wanna be known a particular way then don’t behave as such. Simple as that.
@SD-oi9gr
@SD-oi9gr 25 күн бұрын
Foley has absolutely no chance of legal action against Netflix. If people accused him of being a rapist because he looks like the actor in the show and is friends with gadd. How could Netflix have done anything about foley?
@adzm1987
@adzm1987 25 күн бұрын
Was everything Gaad said she was , totally fake, has a story for everything.
@donbrown1284
@donbrown1284 25 күн бұрын
The only thing they may nail Netflix on is the "this is a true story" claim, given that they've fictionalized several things (like imprisonment).
@christinavigorandmoxie
@christinavigorandmoxie 25 күн бұрын
You can blame whomever you want for not holding their identities back but at the end of the day people were going to find out with such a powerful story. I think it's funny people like the podcasters trying to say hey, it's ok for a predator to be out there cause we just don't want hurt their feelings. I mean the interview with Piers, wholly crap she's delusional. I mean right out the gate she said she hasn't watched it but we all know that isn't true. The interview didn't help her in anyway at all. Stop trying to blame Netflix. Gadd, or the internet when the real issue is she did what she did, the producer did what he did, and they are the predators to blame for their behavior.
@tricivenola8164
@tricivenola8164 22 күн бұрын
Just finished the series whichI watched on Critical Drinker's recommendation. Wow. I think the creator and Netflix treated the perpetrators' identities in a responsible manner. My only beef with Netflix was their sanctioning of a sub-Saharan casting choice for Cleopatra in what was supposed to be a documentary. That's what's brought them the most heat.
@96unicorns
@96unicorns 22 күн бұрын
He chose not to reveal her identity, but it is hardly a crime for him to reveal the identity of his stalker. Where the fuck is the media's duty of care towards the vicim, why care so much about the perpetrator's feelings. He has the right to have named her if he wanted to. At least if something happens, people know where to look for him, in Fiona's basement if she has one...
@whadis404
@whadis404 8 күн бұрын
I agree!!
@talltrees358
@talltrees358 25 күн бұрын
She loves the attention.
@ReubenAStern
@ReubenAStern 24 күн бұрын
"Don't try to find them!" he said... "Sounds like a challenge" The internet replied.
@massini3133
@massini3133 24 күн бұрын
Bad, bad, bad Piers, just another narcissist given air time. She outed herself.
@thekalli23
@thekalli23 25 күн бұрын
I mean... can't this be easily resolved with a true background check on real martha?? Did she not actually serve time for either stalker ships we've heard of her doing?
@singIeservingfriend
@singIeservingfriend 23 күн бұрын
If it was the otherway round Martha wouldn't be described as 'mentally ill' they'd be a 'sick pervert'
@sophiechan5858
@sophiechan5858 25 күн бұрын
Mental woman ! She should leave him Alone now! Horrible person, it require so much courage from him to speak about it. She should go to a psychiatric hospital.
@kanothe187
@kanothe187 25 күн бұрын
Psychiatric hospital not much use with personality disorders I'm afraid, there isn't any medication for it as it is a developmental disorder in nature. If she has as I suspect NPD then the only treatment is long term talk therapy and the outcomes for that are low (I think like less than 1 in 5). . The outcomes are even lower if she has ASPD (psychopathy/sociopathy). Best thing would be court appointed therapist visits and a general shunning by society to kick her ego into gear. Barring that a jail cell
@SirAsdf
@SirAsdf 25 күн бұрын
8:47 This one fact should be enough to invalidate her entire argument.
@UnknownWarriorZz
@UnknownWarriorZz 22 күн бұрын
Holy shit I just saw her Twitter she tweets with the weird misspellings just like on the show. Her Twitter is wild she’s bonkers.
@annecheesman5958
@annecheesman5958 21 күн бұрын
Stalkers just want attention, whether it is good or bad, it feeds them. Look at her now soaking in it. Disgusting. Xx
@sumisumi5214
@sumisumi5214 25 күн бұрын
So the rapest is still free and living his life happy knowing what he did to a kid. Back then Richard was young when it all happened.
@catrionamacfarlane4949
@catrionamacfarlane4949 15 күн бұрын
He wasn't a 'kid"...he was an adult...an adult with a problem.
@sumisumi5214
@sumisumi5214 14 күн бұрын
@@catrionamacfarlane4949 they guy was like 21 or something. Legally adult but still a kid to me.
@gdaymates431
@gdaymates431 25 күн бұрын
It would be pretty wild if the truth came out, and it turned out he made most of it up.
@diannamartinez8942
@diannamartinez8942 23 күн бұрын
She is human and deserves empathy and compassion. Even more so, if true.
@itsreeeshaaa7560
@itsreeeshaaa7560 12 күн бұрын
No, she doesn’t.
@dodonggoldblum2085
@dodonggoldblum2085 14 күн бұрын
They tried to hide the real character's identities. The actual stalker looked exactly like the actress playing her.
@glassonion5474
@glassonion5474 4 күн бұрын
I want her to prove the "internet sleuths" who tracked her down and gave her death threats! Where is the proof? She already said in an interview she knew it was her many years earlier with Gadds stage show! * She came forward first! Remember? She claims she was "FORCED" to come forward. She hasn't proved who forced her! Piers just took it on her word that what she said was true.
@glassonion5474
@glassonion5474 4 күн бұрын
What she said about Internet sleuths and the death threats, I mean.
@prinsessaruusunen5494
@prinsessaruusunen5494 20 күн бұрын
To me Donney's story, his feelings, thoughts, actions were more interesting than Martha. But great tv series
@ab.9765
@ab.9765 23 күн бұрын
It's funny how people do wrong and get all mad about it when it comes out...
@queenofdisney4932
@queenofdisney4932 25 күн бұрын
I think she was fake
@Purpleakiindahouse
@Purpleakiindahouse 25 күн бұрын
Ok but if you watch the show he’s a compulsive liar and lies when he doesn’t need to. Seem to be in his nature. Can’t trust either of them
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 25 күн бұрын
Consequence of trauma, not in his nature. ​@@Purpleakiindahouse
@chriselton723
@chriselton723 25 күн бұрын
When here lips move there lies
@thecursedagent7652
@thecursedagent7652 25 күн бұрын
​@@Purpleakiindahouse there's proof of her stalking multiple people, he's a bit fucked but she's way worse like she's genuinely mentally ill
@iLoveBoysandBerries
@iLoveBoysandBerries 25 күн бұрын
Nope I checked her Twitter. She has tweets to Gadd in 2015
@stevenhowe6677
@stevenhowe6677 25 күн бұрын
She certainly displays as a Sociopath and WILL USE ANY slight change or inaccuracy in the story to claim she's being 'victimised' rather than admit all the factual stuff.
@somethingclever8916
@somethingclever8916 10 күн бұрын
She outed herself and ran to the press. Netflix didnt out her. She did that and shouldnt be held liable
@edwinrios3908
@edwinrios3908 24 күн бұрын
There is one question I have about the whole show. When she came into the pub that first day, why was she crying? That's a suspensive point that was never answered. In the back of your mind, either directly or not, that point stays with the viewer during the whole show. Where did that anguish go? Was this a situation where one nail was driven out by another nail? I think that this hidden suspense is what made the show so successful.
@nancysavard4322
@nancysavard4322 22 күн бұрын
to me, it just seemed like a ploy. She'd chosen her 'new' victim and this was her first move. His empathy was his doom.
@bramsrockhopper3377
@bramsrockhopper3377 Күн бұрын
It wasn’t all we’ve learnt since. We’ve learnt that she stalked Kier Starmer too. That she was indeed sacked from a law firm after just a few days for inappropriate behaviour. That the owner was so worried about her staff’s safety, she issued them attack alarms. We also learnt that she lies as she breathes, contradicting herself time and again, and that she loves attention. We know the voice messages must be true because Jessica’s portrayal of Fiona was so spot on it was uncanny - the way she speaks and breathes and writes, all as he portrayed them. We learnt, I think, that Fiona is dangerous and unwell and needs professional help. She is a stalker. And she is making herself famous off this quite deliberately, using her fame to further harass her victim. Scary stuff. Imho
@kristeenturnbull7104
@kristeenturnbull7104 25 күн бұрын
Beef curtains are on the menu in the morgan arms
@mcostagirl123
@mcostagirl123 8 күн бұрын
The fact that the emails on the show were quoted word for word proves that Netflix didn’t do enough to protect her. I’m not defending her, but they definitely made it very easy for people to figure out her real identity.
@SlowandDecaffeinated
@SlowandDecaffeinated 23 күн бұрын
Both of them are broken, and both lack credibility for many reasons. Essentially, NEITHER of them are solid truth-tellers.
@greyLeicester
@greyLeicester 11 күн бұрын
The real villain looks like Rosie O'Donnell 😂😂😂
@syntrexfpv1347
@syntrexfpv1347 25 күн бұрын
Everyone talks about be careful what you put on the internet. If it really is that easy to get this info why has no one screenshotted any of these liked pics on his FB page or any of the tweets or emails. I understand the voicemails and text messages you aren't going to get without being in law enforcement but all the rest should be fairly easy to aquire online if they exist.
@syntrexfpv1347
@syntrexfpv1347 24 күн бұрын
@@PriscillaAmal I hardly think a handful of tweets constitutes evidence she is a stalker. If there are in fact tons of liked facebook photos with comments and 40k emails we should be able to find that yet all we find is 10 or so tweets.
@MeowMeow-sy2mi
@MeowMeow-sy2mi 13 күн бұрын
This show was fantastically done.
@hannahcartledge3578
@hannahcartledge3578 23 күн бұрын
Foley looks most like Darriens character. And Gadd didnt deny Foley as the perpetrator, he just stated that speculation is wrong.
@mulville0
@mulville0 25 күн бұрын
I'd like to see some proof on each side
@ComputationalSpanish
@ComputationalSpanish 25 күн бұрын
U can find her tweets online that support gadds claim
@CeCe-xv1fr
@CeCe-xv1fr 25 күн бұрын
Her tweets and Facebook posts and then what's came out her mouth is pretty damming that she did stalk him.
@nifflinNiffler
@nifflinNiffler 25 күн бұрын
No one would have known it was her for sure if she wouldn't have come forward. But what if, just what if this is some other psycho who is pretending to be the character Martha was based off of. 🤔
@LucyStormbringerLastic
@LucyStormbringerLastic 21 күн бұрын
That's how she'll be painted until she admits it herself. The court case is going to be fascinating if it ever gets a hearing, which it won't. She won't be advised to go ahead; especially since Gadd never said his stalker was convicted but they used that in the show to give closure to those watching it. Leaving it open ended is messy production.
@Dragonfly-0010
@Dragonfly-0010 24 күн бұрын
She's definitely lying.
@fargotua13
@fargotua13 25 күн бұрын
It's clear that Fiona puts some kind of facade and is quite messy at doing so and behind it, troubled woman. But she's not in jail nor institution, so maybe her foults are not as great as depikted in BR?
@conorchristmas6844
@conorchristmas6844 24 күн бұрын
Even her last name can be a male first name. Scott / Harvey
@nolijackson2930
@nolijackson2930 4 күн бұрын
I don’t think he did much to hide their identities, he just changed their names and then hired actors who looked like them
@fashunpuss6279
@fashunpuss6279 25 күн бұрын
He didn’t go to great lengths to protect her.
@CottonKandyCake
@CottonKandyCake 24 күн бұрын
She didn’t have to come forward and out herself to the world and go on an interview 🤷🏻‍♀️
@BeefWiggles
@BeefWiggles 25 күн бұрын
Susan Boyle?!
@madamery9946
@madamery9946 25 күн бұрын
Thts wht i said😂
@gittin_funky
@gittin_funky 25 күн бұрын
@@madamery9946 and it appears she dreamed a dream
@madamery9946
@madamery9946 25 күн бұрын
@@gittin_funky 🤣😂🤣🤣
@margaretsheehan9264
@margaretsheehan9264 25 күн бұрын
When I watched baby raindeer frist person I thought of was Susan Boyle 🤣🤣
@chaosspy6723
@chaosspy6723 25 күн бұрын
don't disrespect Susan like that
@phantom115cw
@phantom115cw 25 күн бұрын
See was in torchwood
@BibiCameron
@BibiCameron 21 күн бұрын
Does everyone know who he is talking about? Who is everyone? Maybe people who actually knew her and knew what she did. No one else before Piers Morgan's show. It was he who exposed her identity and encouraged her to sue her victim.. so sad.
@LucyStormbringerLastic
@LucyStormbringerLastic 21 күн бұрын
I wonder if she hasn't called herself Fiona Gadd at some stage.
@HELLCAT7
@HELLCAT7 11 күн бұрын
Honestly, everything happened after a certain point was his fault. This movie addresses his cowardness and ego.
@Deltaaaaaaaaa
@Deltaaaaaaaaa 23 күн бұрын
Man who gives a fuck about protecting her identity or the other guy? Who gives a fuck? Why should they be entitled to identity protection after what they did?
@bucksdiaryfan
@bucksdiaryfan 7 күн бұрын
By going public, she took a minor cult hit and turned it into the biggest sensation on Netflix. She's done herself infinitely more damage than the show could have ever done on its own.
@user-pm5bp1np8l
@user-pm5bp1np8l 25 күн бұрын
an all that free publicity
@nancysavard4322
@nancysavard4322 22 күн бұрын
Frankly, I think both should seek help. Right now, they seem to be caught in some sort of trauma bond. I take anything Gadd wrote with a grain of salt. He's so much more than a victim. My2cents.
@And.Still.I.Rise.
@And.Still.I.Rise. 24 күн бұрын
If the show is true, Where is Gadds viral KZbin video where he breaks down ?
@YasuraTheDemon
@YasuraTheDemon 24 күн бұрын
Also why isn't his name Donnie Dunn lol
@urghworldisweird
@urghworldisweird 19 күн бұрын
Yeah he really hid his stalker, i mean the actress and his stalker look and sound totally different and the job is different too, how did anyone find her.
@faeriegore
@faeriegore 22 күн бұрын
Neh, he wanted people to know who exactly she was and Netflix fell for it.
@KashiGirl911
@KashiGirl911 22 күн бұрын
bs.. the writer just made a few subtle adjustments so that he could say he tried (to hide who she is). also.. if she has a criminal record, it would be publicly available. No one has produced this. she's an odd duck, but that doesn't make everything he says true.
@strawberryseason
@strawberryseason 11 күн бұрын
But in real life did she face charges and get a prison sentence?
@Lunchladydoyle
@Lunchladydoyle 23 күн бұрын
Go ahead sue Netflix. !! Then ALL the dirt gets aired in court and we get to see exactly how mental this woman is.
@ianmcgeehan4627
@ianmcgeehan4627 25 күн бұрын
Sorry, but the Streisand Effect is really old and everyone knows what it is. To tell people Not to do something, even something deadly, and some percent will do it.
@kurayamix
@kurayamix 22 күн бұрын
he maybe make peach of her and forgive her. but i dont think it the same for her. she never get jail time in real life. And that maybe the point in these story. 😅
@techgamesyt8046
@techgamesyt8046 25 күн бұрын
Desperate for FAME
@denissetoscano4264
@denissetoscano4264 20 күн бұрын
She’s unwell and did wrong but why isn’t the same effort being put into finding out/accusing the groomer. Surely that man has also victimized more people as well.
@nadiajamesroper4947
@nadiajamesroper4947 24 күн бұрын
I dont know why he'd play himself i find it bizarre if these things hes experienced is so traumatising why not use a actor to play the role , ive seen the interview she did with piers and she is very stange woman but im on the fence in how much is real and how much is bost the viewing on this Netflix program i think their both lying i think she did stalk him but he's added things to heighten the story line
@nancysavard4322
@nancysavard4322 22 күн бұрын
re the acting, I asked myself the same question. Why put himself in a situation to 'relive it'? I mean, he wrote it. Then he acted it out in plays and finally, in a TV series. That, to me, is a red flag.
@j.stanisic1586
@j.stanisic1586 12 күн бұрын
Re acting can help some victims
@chicken0w044
@chicken0w044 11 күн бұрын
Because it’s his process, obviously you can’t understand
@nancysavard4322
@nancysavard4322 11 күн бұрын
@@chicken0w044 and you do?
@chicken0w044
@chicken0w044 11 күн бұрын
@@nancysavard4322 no, but I’m not judging his process lmao
@TheSuburbiaJonesEffect-wn4so
@TheSuburbiaJonesEffect-wn4so 22 күн бұрын
There are three sides to every story
@tundrawomansays694
@tundrawomansays694 24 күн бұрын
This Fiona lady is seeking a large $$$$ payday.
@Zhiar
@Zhiar 25 күн бұрын
I thought this show was fictional 😮
@shifashahine2005
@shifashahine2005 25 күн бұрын
Omg
@jewelcopeland8440
@jewelcopeland8440 20 күн бұрын
They emphasize true was a clear midtake to make a story better they often chsnge the end and any parts to make story more exciting and concise. A basic true story can be 〽️ fiction. Pierd dlso took advantage. She has hone public i think for monay laexuits and populatity. Fiona is s liar or at least a misleading talker. She publically outed herself.
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