Everything Wrong With Annihilation in Mind Melting Minutes or Less

[@CinemaSins]

Sarlaac-throated croc-a-shark.

[@coolerking816]

Genius

[@roberte.o.speedwagon6043]

That's hot. Because of that, you ge a sin.

[@h.plovecat4307]

Weird boner but okay.

[@iceintheair]

ok

[@MacAnthony209]

Have you ever threatened to remove all the sins immediately if X and then X happens?

[@JosephMurphy90]

The bear imitating that woman's screams is one of the top 10 scariest moments of 2010s cinema!

[@rocket2uranus109]

The scariest part about it is that the bear wasn’t “imitating” the woman’s screams per se, but rather her DNA actually became part of the bear’s.

[@JosephMurphy90]

Chris Carter I never thought of it that way...that makes it even more haunting!

[@jasonbrown4526]

That bear really freaked me out.

[@rhianut]

That bear was the thing I saw out of the corner of my eye at 1 in the morning whilst walking to the fridge

[@SuperFlawless2010]

@@rocket2uranus109 If you look at the bear monster in behind the scenes you can actually see a human skull protruding on his left side of his face.

[@ryanwagner794]

This movie is the perfect balance of “oh my gosh so beautiful” and “what the actual f is going on”

[@DmanLucky_98]

KZbin in a nutshell...wide variety of content, you never know where to begin.

[@raz0rcarich99]

and horrific terror (the woman-bear).

[@TheK.E.]

Try the book! It's the first in a trilogy, but it's the only one worth reading.

[@parrishharris3008]

Exactly

[@chrismcdonald2947]

@@TheK.E. the second one is dry and long...the third one gets even weirder I loved it

[@llallogen7380]

The use of the all-female crew was literally something I just didn't notice while watching this movie. It wasn't used as the major selling point for the movie, never felt like the director was asking for brownie points for it--it just blended in.

[@thepsion5]

llallogen In the book, there was a specific reason they went with an all-female crew, but I’m kind of glad they didn’t focus on that with the film. They just let them be about the characters

[@travisspazz1624]

Red Letter Media pointed out the majority female cast and the hypocrisy of how Hollywood and audiences ignored it!! The marketing aspect of that wasn't shoved down people's throats.

[@DarkMiss]

thats what happens when you make a good movie and not try to push crazy gender agendas. genderdas?

[@GinkgoBalboa142]

Great stuff! They still felt the need to point it out though. Briefly, but still.

[@Concreto1984]

Liar

[@jasonjuneau]

"Fool me once, shimmer on me, fool me twice, shimmer limmer ding dong" - Jeremy 2020

[@jasonjuneau]

@M. Woller I don't know why I found that so funny. Maybe because it was completely random?

[@upsidedownnugget9531]

Fool me three times... you just... you...you can’t shimmer me again.

[@daseinz]

It's almost as if we watched the same video.

[@dejay6363]

best line ever "if this was the walking dead they`d set a whole season here" lmao

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Ok?

[@RhavoX]

yeah it was funny but why is this a sin tho?

[@colewilder7353]

@@RhavoX because no show should base a whole season on one location like that.

[@colewilder7353]

@@RhavoX hes retroactively sinning TWD

[@iGaveLiaHIV]

'*

[@Doc_Trancy]

‘If a lighthouse has a butthole, I’m not going in it.’ Good life choices

[@banditoheat]

This is exactly the opposite of the Doctor Who approach.

[@saber-jocky3436]

Right, that's clearly a job for the Butthole Surfers.

[@Wr3ckZ]

I had to pause the video while I laughed my azz off at that line.

[@chelsea9588]

The scene at the end with the mimic alien being made me SO thoroughly uncomfortable, that was the most tense part of the movie for me. *shudder*

[@tomm-f827]

Yeah the bear was like, eh, it's just a bear not super scary. But anthropomorphic figures are sooo unsettling and weird and it freaks me out. Seeing it in the recording of the camera, just looking into the hole was terrifying

[@pablocano6272]

I'm on the same boat here. This movie with all its mistakes included, has certainly some of the most unsettling moments I've experienced in cinema.

[@jimgarrity2414]

I was waitin for the little blond chick from all those SIA music videos to come whippin in and start dancing and hopping around making weird faces....

[@IzzySarru]

@@tomm-f827 Really? The bear was way more terrifying to me. It showed intelligence and cruelty in its actions. It somehow snuck up on a group of people despite being a giant ass bear, dragged off a single member of their crew seemingly JUST to kill her. Then it strays from its territory to track them down and uses a human voice to lure them out. The thing seemed like it was fucking with them. The humanoid alien is just seemed...weird. I'd be scared of it too, but much less than the bear. I'd also have way more curiosity about it since it didn't seem immediately malicious.

[@markimlem]

That bear scene was one of the scariest things I've ever seen in film.

[@janiellehannon2841]

I had already seen the scene several times before I watched the movie and it still scared the shit out of me when I watched the movie for real. And when the bear mimics the woman screaming....oh my god..

[@markimlem]

@@janiellehannon2841 Yea, rewatching the scene still gives me the spooks

[@Locadel2003]

DISTURBING.....TRULY DISTURBING

[@TheRealTezzandra]

I got nightmares after. I got chills all over my body which I had never gotten watching a movie before during this scene...

[@triciaramgoolam4045]

@@TheRealTezzandra oh gosh. Yes. It was the same. Holy shit.

[@rileyelizabeth7942]

The scene with the alien mimicking her moves literally floored me for days. I’m not even sure why entirely? But the level of art was just so high in this movie it took me in so quickly and like oh maaan that scene just beat me tf up

[@Em-sy5hz]

Riley Elizabeth same lmao

[@travisspazz1624]

Nothing creepier than a sinister doppelganger!!

[@kellyalves756]

That was badass.

[@denmanfite3156]

It was intensely unsettling. Honestly the best part of the entire film was when she tries to crush herself.

[@douglasmilton2805]

The last, what, 30 minutes of this film are beautiful. Unsettling, but beautiful. And brave, because Alex Garland had the courage to trust in the audience's patience. A truly original film. OK, the lighthouse cavern décor is straight outta Alien, but...tribute reasons! As Jeremy would say. Loved it.

[@memorobles7857]

Dropping the backpacks is actually a realism bonus. They do that every time they enter a potentially dangerous area or building to maximize mobility.

[@TempleGuitars]

Great move. So when she went into the lighthouse butthole she didn't have a flashlight or glowsticks.

[@memorobles7857]

@@TempleGuitars Yes she would, since those things are carried on one's belt, harnes or vest (or more recently, a plate carrier), along with such things like a personal first aid kit, a certain amount of ammunition, etc. Also, while there are things one would keep on one's person at all times in such a hostile environment, life is not a videogame, you can take stuff from your backpack and put it on your belt and viceversa according to the situation, and THEN enter the building.

[@TempleGuitars]

And yet once she entered the building and needed a flashlight, she didn't have one. Bye.@@memorobles7857

[@TheHive616]

Who is THEY and why do you think THEY would just drop backpacks for any unknown place? These aren't Marines and this isn't a situation that anyone has ever been in. I bet you felt smart leaving those silly comments though

[@SweetChickenSir]

I was hoping for a "What are you doing in my swamp" outtake

[@SweetChickenSir]

Wait, this video just came out, how is your comment from a day ago?

[@SweetChickenSir]

Patreon

[@Ates417]

@@SweetChickenSir No its magic or some weird form of time travel

[@maddie_plays_roblox9436]

It’s just ur mind melting.......ha ha ha get it..........I need friends

[@zacrl1230]

Brought to you by the magic of time zones! :D

[@jpsinger16]

I feel bad for Jeremy's college girlfriend.

[@olivera6743]

jpsin1616 ahaha jokes are funny the more you repeat them

[@SasukeUchiha-qg4nn]

He references her so much.

[@mrnukes797]

Not until Jeremy's girlfriend shows up and beats the shit out of him the thing you don't want is use your ex as a joke and then have said ex find out and and be furious

[@BarkingShark]

@@mrnukes797 I think everybody does it though. It's just one of those things that even if it is nonsensical or we shouldn't, we still use an ex as some part of a joke. I don't but pretty much everyone I know does

[@Lolbama2012]

As if anybody would actually date a whiny little bitch like him

[@iwatchkittenvids45]

I thought the whole metaphor behind this movie was that it's about self-annhilation &relationships. She cheated on her husband, was forced to fight herself or a reflection of herself. They both went on a journey into the shimmer. They lost days, were confused, became parts of each other but lost part of themselves, only to come back to each other not quite the same. At least I felt it something like that

[@ThisisnotTwitter]

Yup, here is the best video I've seen on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4PSZ2mfgbN4kNk

[@joaonobre-franco4437]

apparently it was a metaphor for cancer

[@zuz-ve4ro]

@@joaonobre-franco4437 you could assign multiple meaning from the pov of different characters I believe

[@trenvert123]

The most terrifying scene to me is the scene in the lighthouse with the humanoid. It was the sheer helplessness of it all. It wasn't like the bear that was deliberately hunting her. This was just a creature of such unfathomable strangeness, that the sheer act of it unconsciously mimicking you can kill you, or keep you trapped for the rest of your life. To this creature, she was so insignificant that destroying her would be inconsequential, and done with no malice. It's like it's the biological equivalent of a fundamental physical law. It mimicked her, simply because that was the law it represents. _For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction._ I don't even think the phosphorous bomb killed it. I think adhering to its own law destroyed it. The fire from the the bomb burned it, and it mimicked the destructive nature of the fire, which increased the overall destructiveness, which it then mimicked. And it continued that, until it was destroyed. You can't kill it, technically. But you can work within the law it represents to convince it to destroy itself.

[@Yaoiphobicc]

I know you made this comment a year ago but you've summarized exactly how I feel about this scene so eloquently so I just had to chime in and give you props for that.

[@chrisfrancis9555]

I know this comment is over 2 years old but since watching this movie I've been searching for answers and I must say I am quite impressed mate 👏 the ending had me baffled and you have given me the explanation i was looking for 👌

[@unamericano]

You've perfectly captured why I think this is one of the best examples of Cosmic Horror ever made. Well said.

[@barrylyndon5552]

The crazy music and how worn down and mutated the main character had become really added to it. Felt like the alien presence was feeding on her and she was right at the tipping point of being fully replaced, the harder she fought the more she lost

[@StarcatMkV]

I know your comment is about three years old, but

[@JayneTheory]

"The most beautiful nonsense I've ever seen." This film in a nutshell. 😂

[@basketballgenesis8969]

feels like you were complimenting the movie at every sin

[@jonathanwilliams225]

It’s a really good movie so it’s understandable

[@tylerdurden4006]

That's what happens when you make a great story driven and smart thriller...the sci-fi part is a bonus

[@Astroman10]

@Tyrell Suraiya it's saying there wasn't much content in this film. It is beautiful and I enjoyed the visuals but the plot and script were shorted than the credits!

[@denmanfite3156]

@Yer Nan What's also interesting is the parts that ARE spoken are done in cringy overacted tone. I like Natalie Portman and the movie was great but 90% of the acting was awful.

[@AngryWildMango]

@@denmanfite3156 ?... No

[@Shady90133]

I had a feeling the bear would get some sins knocked off because it was literally one of the most horrifying scenes in film.

[@vincentvincent5966]

Yeah that thing was a scarier SCP-939

[@danielcall532]

“We have many theories, few facts” Ding Twitter. Haha gold

[@Paulafan5]

No, Twitter rejects scientist facts for their feelings.

[@Psycorde]

@@Paulafan5 Which is the point

[@aerindinescarro47]

Paulafan5 Yeah no kidding, conservatives are fucking idiots 90% of the time which is immensely ironic given their whole “facts don’t care about your feelings” shtick. Yet, when they’re given facts, it’s suddenly how they feel about it. Just sayin, regardless of who that was directed at, neither are Gods

[@Grizabeebles]

Her expertise is cellular biology and the Shimmer is round and expanding. The movie's a bacteria's walking tour of a developing embryo. DNA is make up of 6 chemicals. The flower arrangement before the croc-a-shark attack is arranged in a double-helix. The croc is a white blood cell, the deer is an antibody, the bear is a phage the plant-people become mitochondria -- how are so many nerds on the internet missing this?

[@Jenacide]

@@aerindinescarro47 Lawl, ok child

[@S1ipperyJim]

You sinned the swimming pool for having a deep end which is 5 metres deep, however that is exactly the scale of most learn-to-swim pools such as the one I learned to swim in in primary school

[@jayamilapersson4030]

Nope he sinned the swimimgpool because it didnt have a structure for jumping into the non existing water.

[@ImworriedImgettingspyedon]

@@jayamilapersson4030 and also bcyz y the fuck is there a swimming pools in the army HQ lmfao

[@cornslice8535]

@@ImworriedImgettingspyedon they werent allowed to leave the base so i assume for health and fitness

[@THESLlCK]

@@cornslice8535 training, more specifically

[@dustincollis]

@@THESLlCK Exactly. Escape and SCUBA training, I'd guess.

[@Saiaxs]

“Annihilation, you’re breaking my heart!” -Natalie Portman’s character probably

[@chadradge9460]

Star wars revenge of the Sith 'Anakin youre breaking my heart' is the actual line

[@Aw3som3wav3]

@@chadradge9460 WHOOOOSSSSHHH

[@ZacharyShade]

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART ANNIHILATON!!

[@nastybedazzler]

"I deeply, truly... love annihilation."

[@wwehulk8798]

@@Aw3som3wav3 SHUTUPBOTTTTTT

[@FenrirTheGray]

I came just for the *_Skeletor Demon Bear_* scene.

[@andymackie8283]

They called him Paddington on the set.

[@shortstuff780]

Very disappointed that he didn't take off sins for it

[@relinfearous1343]

@@shortstuff780 It was just a shitty Skinwalker ripoff. It sounded ridiculous and not scary.

[@118Shadow118]

he did knock 2 sins off 10:07

[@youngblusan8961]

Same

[@fredericosevergnini9348]

- sinning cinemasins: You can actually see the extra torsos on the beach as the camera gradually leans upwards and reveals the full beach. also, it's 4 extra torsos, not 5. - also not really a sin, but for everyone wondering about the ending: in their personal lives, all the main characters had a self-destructive feature. hence the scenes showing the main scientist cheating on her husband, despite feeling actually happy in her relationship. the same goes for when one of them admits it was struggling with cancer etc. the alien dies at the end because it assimilates the main character and starts reproducing her self-destructive behavior. the whole movie is themed around self-destruction, which is why it's called Annihilation - also also: I totally did not realize this when I first watched it, but I enjoyed the movie and decided to dig around for theories

[@marlenebellic449]

I honestly didnt have to dig through theories everything made sense to me since the beginning.

[@sarahguinan664]

Marlene Bellic no one cares

[@chimerical8746]

if you take cinema sins seriously then you misunderstanding the point of all this. your like someone who complains that they got scared at a Halloween horror night house, like that's the point

[@michaelevans4265]

@@chimerical8746 there's nothing wrong with having your own sins... if you don't see the interest in sinning the sinning channel but somehow see the point in the channel then you aren't noticing the benefits to some of the points that are made in the discussion

[@rickgrimes1016]

Wasn't she only slepping with her colleague after her husband vanished?

[@argylecowboy]

I love this movie, defining it as "The most beautiful nonsense I have ever seen" is pretty much the most accurate summary ever

[@nastybedazzler]

A lot of sins this movie earned are eventually explained in the books though I know if Jeremy knew that he would have sinned the movie even more lol. They took a lot of liberties with the film to make it work on screen given the way the book was written in first person journal accounts, but seeing the movie first I still loved it despite it's vagueness... and was very pleasantly surprised to learn the books were very different and still very awesome. I recommend them if you are into that sort of thing they're relatively short and only three of them.

[@argylecowboy]

@@nastybedazzler I enjoyed the books immensely. Really, this film turned out as good as it could have considering the complexity of the subject matter.

[@Dazzaleinstein]

@@nastybedazzler There are novels of this?! Shiiiiit, well I guess I know what I'm doing now. Thank you!

[@heythere6983]

@@nastybedazzler the sins on this channel are definitely more just something to try and make jokes about rather than logical flaws in movies

[@heythere6983]

@@TheAcepilot123 whos talking about the books besides you?

[@murphywynter]

I always thought the reason the camera was still on when she got there was because the last team was just there, meaning that time in the shimmer is entirely separate from time in the real word.

[@josephpolymilis5331]

Wendigo bear is hands down the most terrifying movie monster of the decade

[@camelcase9225]

This was my favourite movie of 2018. That bear scene was so profoundly disturbing and horrifying.

[@toxicmatrix1337]

The pool scene was probably one of the coolest things I have seen in a sci-fi movie in a long time.

[@christopherrousseau1173]

Haven't seen the pool scene but here it reminded me of videos of people going to Chernobyl.

[@wildcatkhaya5675]

Besides Skeletor Demon Bear, that black alien thing imitating the protagonist really spooked me.. Especially when it pressed itself against her when she ran into the wall or something. Just that contact with that creature and the fact that it was suffocating her as well really had me at the edge of my seat and wincing.

[@jaredwmac]

movie pulls off cosmic horror really well. the idea that aliens are incomprehensible to us is a spooky thought

[@SmallMediumLarge41]

Jeremy: “who sleeps in this position” *me: actively falling asleep in that position*

[@Nikkiflausch]

I love how enthusiastic you are about this movie and that you're being really fair to it. I'm kinda frustrated that half of the sins that aren't jokes were the movie's point, like that the scientist ignoring clear data in front of her is making a point that it doesn't matter how "smart" or good at what you do you are, if you're in emotional peril (and she was particularly; the guy they cut open had the same tattoo as her!), you fall into denial towards the clearest evidence. That's just a psychological defense mechanism of trauma, which, not coincidentally, this movie is about.

[@Planetyyyy]

Does it really matter though?

[@TrueLife..]

The people who wrote this movie have no concept of science, safety procedures, the military, or just any semblance of logic.

[@Janken_Pro]

@@TrueLife.. it's convenient how the alien "refracts" only specific things like light and waves and dna but not anything else. Or how the supplies never are a problem. The cameras seemingly have unlimited juice. Or how the alien only mirrors our mc when it's convenient for the plot. Or why the team isn't using a vehicle to enter the shimmer so y'know, get to places faster.

[@gabeliftman0]

@@TrueLife.. okay but, It's not meant to be a scientific documentary about real events or procedures. It's an inherently emotional and fictional story.

[@isabellesousa1618]

noooo! the tattoo was anya's, the girl that went crazy!!! it was spreading with her DNA thats all

[@katiewhyte3910]

To summarise this movie: didn't know what in the goddamn was going on but couldn't look away

[@DarkMiss]

thats called "art" :P

[@emwrsk]

Couldn’t have said it better

[@jamesmullins1102]

The screaming demon bear is absolutely the most eerie and terrifying thing I have seen in a movie.

[@canadaplease7981]

11:31, There is literally 5 extra torsos in the background as you complain of the lack of torsos

[@kaspartambur]

I see a job opening for quality control on CinemaSins!

[@daniboiyy]

@@kaspartambur DING!

[@whosmans1742]

You didn’t say anything about how the bear made the dying screams of Shepherd whenever it made a noise??

[@lozoft9]

Okay, regarding the whole "refracting DNA" thing, the reason why our DNA works like it does is because the molecules that make it up interact w/ each other in a fixed set of ways. And the reason why those interactions exist is because of fundamental forces and subatomic particles, all of which are *wave-like* excitations of a number of different fields. Assuming you could refract the probability wave functions that define all of quantum physics, you could change how DNA, proteins, and enzymes work, creating the mutations you see in Annihilation.

[@luismartinez7964]

Would you really be able to refract a probability wave function? You’re right in saying that all subatomic particles have wave like properties, but refraction is classical mechanics, would that work in the quantum realm? The mechanics there are probabilistic not deterministic, and so, the concept of refracting a probability wave function perhaps doesn’t make too much sense from my understanding.

[@lozoft9]

Luis Martinez I’m saying “assuming you could” not “actually you can.” This is still very much sci-fi, yet it’s not nearly as far-fetched as it seems at first glance.

[@fortuna19]

Luis Martinez For quantum mechanics, wave functions *can* reflect, refract etc. (btw we do not refer to the probability wave doing something, we find what the *wavefunction* does and then convert to a probability density function). Refraction at its core is still wave behaviour, think Huygens model or wave packets.

[@silverlight4977]

Where did you guys find this stuff, just a quick google search? Everything is made up of subatomic particles, that doesn't mean everything refracts. It was just some bullshit the movie threw, and actual physics doesn't work like that

[@polarisgemini52]

Whatever you have said is absolutely nonsense. The only way 'dna refracted' would make sense is since the zone inside the shimmer is genetically unstable, there are a lot of random DNA sequences in the environment and the sci fi nature of the shimmer allows those DNA fragments to enter the body and merge into the cells' DNA by constant recombination. Like transposons but it's frequency amped up a billion times (and they can penetrate the skin and transform into cells)

[@Jeyricho]

This movie was SO beautiful, Cinema Sins as ADDING sins for how fucking good the visuals was near the end

[@EmileVinesh]

The bear is one of the best moments I've seen in recent horror/thriller movie history

[@michaelv4812]

@Wermhats Wormhat Oh sorry, I forgot that your definition of scary spoke for everyone.

[@Lord_Sunday]

Wermhats Wormhat dude get lost. Nobody asked for your trolling bullcrap.

[@DarthBiomech]

@Wermhats Wormhat ALL OF THEM. They _act_ alive, but they are _not_ alive, and never _were_ alive. They were made by unholy obscure animator arts, sometimes mixed with dark incomprehensible computer simulations. How can you NOT be terrfied of them?!

[@jimcanterak7349]

@Wermhats Wormhat You are scared of clown you little shit? Pfff, and you called someone else a "little girl".

[@michaelv4812]

@ Perhaps as an adult you would understand that horror can be subjective.

[@abb.y]

that final shot where you see their eyes & that they've both been changed by the shimmer is so fkn unsettling.... i love that it makes no sense and that you don't have an answer it's so creepy

[@AlienBee]

But there is an answer lol

[@brando3342]

@abby wright Orrrr, it's just pretentious.

[@brando3342]

@Matthew Iamaleava In the sense of the definition of "pretentious", which is specifically this: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed."

[@jennas3212]

What makes the Shimmer so malicious is that it has no intent; it doesn't want anything. It just does. It changes everything it touches, blending and reshaping. And now that they've both been transformed by the Shimmer, that prerogative to change is now a part of them.

[@Paulafan5]

Should have gotten 100 sins for that cliched ending.

[@Wr3ckZ]

"In the history of movie 'what the f*ckery', I have rarely felt this thoroughly what the f*cked." I swear, I had to pause this video a few times, so I could sit there, giggling and laughing my azz off. I LOVE YOU, CINEMASINS!

[@michaelisberner8574]

The sin you gave for the lack of a diving board is what I believe to be the greatest sin you've ever handed out! Bravo!

[@SaveFarris1]

There's a Shepherd, a Kate, and someone saying "We have to go back". HOW DO YOU MISS THAT ONE?!?

[@SaveFarris1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4jNc3eGgKx9hs0

[@Blarglesnarfe]

*“-AFTER NEARLY TWO YEARS!”* “You vanished off the face of the Earth for 12 months” ???????????

[@Abrabeck82]

He stopped answering calls and sending letter twelve months ago. He went to war two years ago.

This is probably easily explained but I can't help you because all you did was write 2 quotes and then type a shit ton of question marks. Not sure why this sort of comment is so popular among this dumbass generation. Do you have a question? A statement? USE YOUR FUCKING WORDS IT'S OKAY.

[@cameronrichardson1576]

@@Abrabeck82 It wasn't a war it was a shimmer

[@Abrabeck82]

@@cameronrichardson1576 yes that's what I meant

[@jimgarrity2414]

@ Take some fucking Midol already....

[@reanex2134]

Can’t wait for *Everything Wrong With CATS*

[@JaceCavacini]

The title of that video is all that’s needed... because *everything* IS wrong with Cats.

[@ZeeManiaX]

It would be a long video

[@areyoufriendly]

It’ll be a 200 sinner for sure!

[@manovonor]

They would get a strike for showing the entire movie.

[@paperclip6377]

It happened

[@FeebleSaturn3]

I saw this in theaters and the soundtrack when she's inside the lighthouse against that metal thing...ugh that techno whatever it was made me feel so uneasy and paranoid and amazingly done but damn did I hate it in-the-moment.

[@priscillajimenez27]

I just KZbind the bear scene that everyone is talking about. Yeah that is traumatizing

[@999SickBoy666]

You don't get to be "traumatized" by watching a two minutes clips on your phone. Watch the whole goddamned movie on an actual (>32') screen, without scrolling on your phone every 30 seconds, then talk about "trauma".

[@andusz5518]

@@999SickBoy666 you here, were gatekeeping about being scared of a movie scene. Think about that for a moment.

[@chaosandbunnies8291]

@@999SickBoy666 While I can agree that watching it on a smaller screen might make it lose some of it's gravitas, you're also being a massive dickhead. Also, they never once mentioned a phone, calm down.

[@failedGraphics]

@@999SickBoy666 This bro is mad yall.

[@murphywynter]

I was about to search the scene because I'd watched the movie so long ago, but then thought, no I actually want to sleep tonight

[@leahunfeigned5955]

This movie was like an acid trip.

[@Heron11177]

Acid bad trip

[@lauravanderwal1384]

I actually was on shrooms watching the movie. Let's say the beautiful parts were extra trippy, and the bear made me feel like I was dying. It was an experience to say the least and I can't necesarrily recommend it 😂

[@Lumibear.]

I’m pretty convinced that was the original concept, ‘What would it be like if the world was invaded by an alien force that had no direction, plan or reason, it was just an acid trip made real, as in instead of altering our perception of reality, it actually altered reality’, and also let’s assume people might watch this film on acid. Go.

[@khartog01]

Dear science movies, stop using theory when you mean hypothesis.

[@JaceCavacini]

Dear fantasy and techno-fantasy movies/TV shows: please stop calling yourselves “science” fiction.

[@MS-ij1tq]

Thank you good Sir!

[@theundead1600]

Nice profile pick bladder ;)

[@peterstoric6560]

Jace Cavacini well they are very very *VERY* loosely based on science, did I mention extremely very loosely based on science.

[@reaper411b]

Gravity's just a theory.

[@Ayay01]

Took me around 4 min before my brain gave up protecting me and all the memories of seeing this "thing" flooded back. oooh the horror

[@notquiteordinary]

You dumb

[@itsmewhitewalker]

this movie, along with interstellar, were my 2 favorite thriller mind-bending movies of the 2010s. i have to argue this soundtrack is very underrated!

[@ImworriedImgettingspyedon]

completely agreed!!

[@edojcl]

By Geoffrey Paul Barrow from Portishead

[@charKT-7461]

I thought this movie was pretty cool and interesting. Then the bear showed up. Let's just say I didn't sleep that night.

[@andim.8788]

That was creepy

[@darrenmizzi6072]

HhHeEeLlLpPp MeEeEeEeEe

[@IamSly409]

Gotta love when you watch so much CinemaSins you instinctively blurt out 'roll credits' as soon as a character in the movie says the title of the movie

[@21Arrozito]

This is such a wonderful underrated movie. We need more sci-fi/horror like this instead of recycling defunct IP's like Aliens and Predator over and over again.

[@moorewr]

OTOH, "recklessly contaminating yourself by contact with an unknown environment" is right out of the book.

[@kaeptnstyle4844]

The part I understood the least (!) is why they are geniusly sleeping in a nice WATCH TOWER, but are holding their WATCH down on the ground, and on top of it are using light to read some stuff to not only exactly giving away their position but also completely ruining the ability to see their surroundings during darkness.

[@hurbm2443]

I'm surprised you didn't talk about the music

[@robbywoolums9071]

Henry M Even the music in the trailers made my hair atand up

[@nickwilliams2745]

I fucking love the music I listen to that shit on its own

[@snowfox4277]

It’s so LOUD. I had to cover my ears in the theater.

[@D.A.A.321]

Nick Williams, wow, me too!!!

[@jimgarrity2414]

thought that was just someone tuning a guitar...

[@TheBrokeK.I.D]

Logo exist CinemaSins: So you have chosen death

[@DragonFlame1090]

Patrick Franklin how is this not the top comment

[@olivera6743]

Patrick Franklin ahaha logos jokes are funny

[@dannybeads3672]

It’s literally the number 1 sin of every video. The 1st sin in The cinemasins Commandments.

[@patrickm6395]

"fool me once, shimmer on me fool me twice, shimmer limmer ding dong" ur too genius.

[@MarkEdwardRom]

shimmer, limmer ding dong your the bears dinner.

[@deceptivefaith5862]

Cinemas sins: Wow this is amazing Also cinemasins: adds one sin

[@SloanWentzell]

1:35 “showing up unannounced after, like, nearly 2 years.” literally the next shot “you vanished off the face of the earth for 12 months” idk why cinemasins feels the need to lie

[@orangejuiceislife9910]

Cinema sins sinning the movie for his own bad jokes. 11/10

[@modern4542]

Someone needs to start a cinema sins sins tally for each vid.

[@Orphen059]

Legit watched just to see if his reaction to the Bear was the same as mine. That thing was terrifying

[@Heron11177]

I'm afraid to rewatch that movie... I like horror movies and games... That was above the curve...

[@Tolwrath]

4:30 ish, a cleanroom doesn't actually have to be completely sealed to be sterile. As long as air pressure zones are set up right, air will only flow OUT of most openings, while air only comes into the room from whatever sterile source is setup.

[@ajwalsh2856]

NEEEEEERRRRRRRDDDDDDDDD

[@OneyeInDarkness]

Sin 17: "Who the f*ck sleeps in this position." I do. I f*cking do.

[@persephone2706]

Same.

[@novelrabbit7718]

The bear scene is one of the most terrifying things I’ve ever watched

[@JustADioWhosAHeroForFun]

When the movie ended, all I remember is _Interior Crocodile Alligator_

[@samuelchristie570]

Just A Dio Who's A Hero For Fun I drive a Chevrolet Movie Theater

[@matthewmills5786]

I remembered Steals Vocal Cords Demon Bear a little more

[@MayhemMendes]

I once woke up after a drunken night to find my bicycle in my livingroom and later found a shoe in my freezer. Couldn’t remember any of it. Blackouts are scary

[@Heron11177]

Indeed I was very scary about some blackouts I had mixed with sonambulysm caused by Zolpidem. Srsly, do not use that kind of drug if you are alone at home... I even went out to do some things and part of the experience felt like I was just a passenger in my own body I could've been run over, I could've done some stupid and dangerous stuff... I went to the supermarket, walked about 6 blocks, got in to the shoemaker, paid him, picked up my father's shoes, left them at my home and then walked 7 blocks back to my grandma's house... And I played a little Pokemon Go along the way

[@Heron11177]

The things that helped me to confirm I did those crazy stuff were the Pokemons I knew I haven't captured the day before and my Google maps history After this day I stopped taking that shit... And that was not the first trip I had with this drug

[@JaceCavacini]

Blackouts are your body’s way of telling you to STOP FUCKING DRINKING TOO MUCH.

[@Sharksteak_]

"Shimmer limmer ding dong" 😂

[@macdaddytheman638]

Jochen “Fool me once, shimmer on you! Fool me twice, shimmer liner ding dong!” 😂😂😂

[@arkhammass5935]

Was this movie written by M. Night Shimmerlimmerdingdong?

[@Hannahtheseal]

I am only going to say this because I was a lifeguard, but the pool at 7:58 probably has a deep end with no diving blocks because it is made specifically for practicing water rescues. You don’t dive in to rescue someone because you need to maintain visual contact as much as you can, so no diving board. And yes there is also a shallow end because when rescuing someone you brings them to the shallows.

[@johnblaze2665]

Anya wasn’t a scientist, she was an EMT. Sin for Cinemasins!

[@StitchsLoft]

Military pools often have deep ends for scuba training... -1 Sin! 😉

[@musicface05]

And drown proofing.

[@hmnanda]

and the denial chick was a paramedic, not a scientist XD

[@Psycorde]

Because that's what you need when researching the Shimmer Scuba diving

[@StitchsLoft]

@@Psycorde 100% know you have never dived a day in your life! Point was it was at the base before the event... Secondly I would think going into environmental area you do not KNOW you might want few techniques to breath... SCUBA teaches variety things how relax how breath proper conservation of air... So lets try use some critical thinking, I know its hard for some, before we run our mouth about things we obviously know zero about! 🤦

[@Psycorde]

@@StitchsLoft Why so serious?

[@aravindashok8802]

"Persistent like rumours! Wank & cranky like, old boomers, can't take a lick with any... good humor!"

[@xtwinezx6552]

BARS

[@ViCompanies]

„They have many theories, few facts“ HAHAHAHA that one good me so good

[@heythere6983]

thats how it would be in real life

[@wannabe12g68]

The part about the time loss and disorientation after the team enters the shimmer sounds like it should have been a sin removed. At least from the way you described it so positively

[@Aw3som3wav3]

"Fool me once, Shimmer on me, fool me twice, Shimmer limmer ding dong" 🤣

[@Iggybart05]

omg this one has so many good lines, but my favorite is easily the lighthouse butthole line LMAO

[@benabramowitz18]

Is this a sequel to Mortal Kombat: Annihilation?

[@randomcallum]

Yes... yes it is

[@robertagu5533]

Yeah, except as bad as MK: Annihilation was.. I've seen it, think THAT was better..somehow

[@abramsullivan7764]

No it is not

[@anubusx]

Fatality.

[@Lazyassindigo]

Nope, it's a reboot.

[@leomiles8658]

This movie blew my mind so hard I forgot I watched it

[@Psycorde]

It's artsy wankery is what it is

[@Heron11177]

When something is Cthulhian-draining-insanity-level or horrifying it can be repressed, just like a trauma I love horror, but have to admit I'm still very uncomfortable with the bear scene... So uncomfortable I wouldn't know if I had the gust to rewatch it, specially alone

[@753Leto]

😂😂😂

[@mattcoor7738]

This film needed some serious sinning for the kindergarten level of scientific analysis they managed in however many years it was the shimmer had been there. I mean, you've never even had anybody return? Surely first human test you send someone two steps inside and tell them to come straight back out, then test them for a month, tie a rope to them and pull them out if necessary. Did this whole facility get their science qualifications on the back of a cereal box or what? When they do get inside, they see a huge croc with crazy mutations and nobody thinks, hmmm he's older than a couple of years, the shimmer must be mutating existing creatures in here. No definitely as a scientist we have no interest in huge mutated crocs, we see that shit all the time, could have been anything, definitely doesn't mean that we're all being mutated as we speak, which might have been nice to know?

[@IzzySarru]

It was also stupid that they tried remote control camera options, not considering that the signal could be cut off by whatever the the shimmer wall was. They could have easily just mounted a camera on a stick, stuck it through, then pulled it back out. Extremely minimal risk to anyone involved.

[@inserttext2412]

Thank you for pointing this out like it wouldn't be a worse film if they had more science in it, it would be better

[@Ledah17]

Also, it is suggested that no comms are available because the shimmer refracts radio signals, so why not use wired comms? Everything that was observed could have been easily reported... Or wired drones for that matter... That really annoys me and is the reason I can't take this movie seriously.

[@Air.keccc1]

Tbh if you look at it from a movie perspective adding those “realistic, this is what they would really do” scenes wouldn’t add much to the movie, it would just take up space in the runtime

[@mattcoor7738]

@@Air.keccc1 I was never suggesting that they should add more science scenes to the film, just that the implication that the army hadn't done even the most obvious experimentation was a ridiculous plot hole and deserved a lot of sins. Fair enough you make a movie to be watchable and you don't show everything, but if it the plot wants you to accept a completely illogical starting point then it's just badly written. I don't know if the original book had the same sort of scientific plot holes or if the movie introduced them to add to the mystery and discovery feeling of the characters and audience, so don't know who to blame, but sci-fi based on completely illogical science always annoys me :)

[@EliWitz]

I watched this movie in it’s entirety twice, I understood what was happening for 0 minutes combined

[@Nyambui]

I feel less alone knowing that I'm not the only one to notice the human-trees are nudists. 🌷 👖

[@SA80TAGE]

so humans transforming into trees you can suspend your disbelief but not for clothes doing the same?

[@frog212whyd4]

I thought it was nature trying to imitate humans

[@brianfinlay5817]

@@frog212whyd4 It was. They made mention of the human HOX genes being the basis of the plant's frame. It wasn't tree people, it was people shaped trees. The DNA could have come from anything, including skin flakes or blood drops after the town was evacuated.

[@MarkEdwardRom]

@@brianfinlay5817 creepy...plant fornication dolls. they are eco friendly & would be self pleasure products that u can buy and not feel bad about throwing out after use. (srry)

[@jojolafrite90]

That's what suspension of disbelief is. It has to make sense, f not my disbelief gets un-suspended.

[@coffeeninja88]

When I first saw the trailers for this movie, my knee-jerk reaction was "This looks like one of those kinda scary sci-fi movies that looks really neat, explains next to nothing, and will probably spawn a bunch of semi-interesting KZbin theory videos". Anywho, I'm gonna go find some of those aforementioned semi-interesting theory videos.

[@Danzilla1996]

If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend it. It's easily one of the best films I've seen in the past 10 years.

[@nighteyes5683]

"If he starts waxing philosophical about how there are no cats in America, I'll remove every last sin, immediately." No. You wouldn't.

[@androkles04]

This movie is low-key underrated. It is a visual masterpiece, a well-executed story with suspense and even horror; and a lot of mind-fuckery that leaves the audience with a lot of weird questions.

[@jlushefski]

The science is too silly and lazy. There's nothing plausible or interesting about it. The whole refraction idea for example, which was supposed to be insightful and important, makes zero sense.

[@sedi2066]

I agree with you, if we dont take how people always try to hard to make sense of ART....this movie is fantastic.

[@michaelbouma435]

Holy crap! That totally is the playground equipment from the birds! How did I not realize that?

[@inessa8332]

What a good actor Oscar Isaac is, and how underused was he here

[@dannybeads3672]

I mean this movie was incredibly good and he played the part he had...

[@randwilliams5552]

He was shooting star wars on a set next door. They were lucky to get him attached, so said both Issac and garland

[@Saiaxs]

Oscar is always great, even if what he’s given is trash(X-Men Apocalypse) but he’s truly great in films like Ex Machina(also starring General Hux)

[@frankmerker630]

I just like how he essentially has the same character traits in Drive and Ex Machina, which were roles that suited him perfectly. Looking forward to Dune

[@6235river]

No sin removal for the soundtrack AND adding a sin for the alien creation scene despite saying it was like good drugs? Not to mention completely disregarding the alien mimicry scene? For shame, Jeremy. For shame.

[@HurdyTheMoogle]

I love this movie, soundtrack to how they shoot the scenes, and I also especially liked how the all female group didnt feel forced even in the slightest.

[@JessieJellybeans]

HurdyTheMoogle in the book they’re all female too-groups are sent in alternative groups to see if a specific combo of certain sexes will effect the outcome, her husband was in an all male group

[@joshbcarpenter]

@Mike Sharpelletti Sounds like a personal problem.

[@patatequiroule]

@Mike Sharpelletti The production did no promotion based on that and the movie didn't put any emphasis on gender-related tropes like the "strong female" or something like that, the characters are there to present different ways people are changed or destroyed by the shimmer and/or allegoricaly traumatic experiences. How does it seem forced?

[@patatequiroule]

@Mike Sharpelletti Isn't having a diverse group or an all male group as arbitrary as having an all female group? Considering the "unnecessary therefore seems forced" line of thought, is there anything that actually doesn't feel forced to you? Like, Disney often got criticized for its diversity quota feeling forced.

[@joshbcarpenter]

@Mike Sharpelletti First of all, there is most certainly more of a biological difference between men and women beyond just their reproductive organs. Second, the movie doesn't really explain this, but the book which the movie is based on talks about how the teams were selected for the expeditions based on many variables (one of which was gender) in order to analyze the effects of Area X on the teams. While this expedition consisted of all females, the previous expedition consisted of all males. Third, it's not like the females in this group were unqualified. The group consisted of a cellular biology professor and former Army soldier, a physicist, a geomorphologist, and a paramedic.

[@rambletonne]

Definitely my favourite review by CinemaSins thus far, and absolutely obvious that you loved this movie, as do I

[@jamescallahan7000]

Not only does this movie have a bad-ass all-female crew, but the characters make perfect sense and so does how they engage with the environment and other characters. It makes sense for Natalie Portman's character to join the team, she talks and engages with the environment with curiosity and analysis like the scientist she is, she is also a soldier and behaves like one when there is a threat; Ventress's melancholy and decision to lead the team makes sense, years of pondering over the Shimmer and sending in teams of good people that never come back or are heard from again has to take a massive toll on a person, she sees it as effectively a noble suicide mission and so she succeeds either way; Tessa (the one that tied em up) makes sense, her being a former addict explains why her behavior is more irrational and skiddish. I could go on forever about this movie, so I'll end here by saying next time you watch Annihilation I implore you to pay attention to the dialogue. This movie's dialogue is SUPERB

[@rednax99]

That bear thing was so cool. The way it echoed the scream of the lady was so haunting

[@akosbarati2239]

Which, lest we forget, can easily be a lie the mimic came up with if the actual doctor has seen Predators, where it's been done to Danny Trejo's character.

[@Heron11177]

It was very haunting...

[@KingMIDA5]

3:10 “So that’s it, what we some kinda... Suicide Squad?

[@kronos1305]

His name was "ATOM" Ill show myself out.... Solid Gold 😂😂😂

[@librask3009]

How’s that considered gold to anyone.... I’ve heard stereotypical dads make better jokes. That one wasn’t funny not even ironically. Sure, I’m not saying you can’t chuckle at it, my sense of humor isn’t the same as everyone else’s, but comedy GOLD??

[@theleviathan329]

This movies soundtrack is AMAZING and I’m shocked he didn’t mention it

[@SparkY0]

This movie has the same production designer as Dredd. ... In case you didn't notice

[@Evelyn_Okay]

How TF do you not take off 100 Sins for sound design?!?!?!?

[@kickass2117]

The climax mimic scene has one of the most cool and creepy sound ever in a film.

[@Ugnutz]

@@kickass2117 I'm pretty sure the movie used the fear frequency as i felt unease the whole time i watched the movie.

[@Evelyn_Okay]

Legit, you don't even have to watch this movie - just listening to the audio will scare the sh*t out anyone!

[@michaelmiller7465]

Because absolutely nothing is worth taking off 100 sins. Also, that last scene ruins the entire movie.

[@MrGoalman96]

@@michaelmiller7465 oh no it doesn't

[@Mad1Lee]

It's one of the best sci-fi movies of the last decade. It's not without sins, of course, but damn, it's so beautiful.

[@TiberianFiend]

You know the "sci" in "sci-fi" is short for science, right? This movie is 100% science-free.

[@Paulafan5]

It's fantasy, not sci-fi.

[@CinceTheDay]

@@TiberianFiend well, but then again, science fiction is an oxymoron on its own so...

[@TiberianFiend]

@@CinceTheDay No it isn't. Science fiction is supposed to be scientifically plausible. Unfortunately, when pop culture picked up sci-fi, it injected sci-fi with a bunch of comic-book crap.

[@yeahkeen2905]

Tiberian Fiend so according to you Star Trek isn’t sci-fi? Star Wars? Guardians of the Galaxy? Dude, please get over yourself.

[@gigglesworth5651]

Unpopular opinion: the climax scene is scarier than the bear scene

[@Paulafan5]

Anyone that didn't see that ending coming obviously hasn't seen a lot of sci-fi/fantasy/horror. It's a slow, dull Twilight Zone episode.

[@mileshurley7551]

Definitely. The ending scenes with the creature in the lighthouse left my mind reeling for days.

[@jonathanlogan1315]

Agreed.

[@michaelv4812]

@@Paulafan5That's quite pretentious

[@adrianccone]

@@mileshurley7551 same

[@AnotherYojimbo]

SCP foundation's getting real creative with how they treat their D-class

[@gankhef5564]

I'd love to see an adaptation of the sequel, Control. It seems a bit weird to just do Annihilation without the rest of Southern Reach.

[@NachashZ]

Yeah but this movie alone has already deviated so much from the first book, idk I kind of think the ending was a good place to just leave it as a standalone movie imo

[@gankhef5564]

decaffeinated depresso Fair enough. I think they could may Control work with some creative changes , but you’re right the third book definitely wouldn’t fit in with this film. Ah well, I just have a soft spot for the feeling of dread and uncertainty in Control.

[@icqpimp]

@@gankhef5564 I need to look that up.

[@paleviolent]

Gan Khef 6 months in and possibly a long yrs after the movie Dude you make me really want to read the whole series