Everything Wrong With Counter Strike 1.6's Weapons

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[@AshleySilverValentine]

The regrets of having so much gun knowledge and experience is that all the previously missed gun mistakes you've never noticed are now very obvious and haunting you while you are powerless to do anything against it. Oh how I miss the old days of me thinking I could reload an M4 like that...

[@2K4Studio]

True, I'm one of those people who just can't let go any gun mistakes.

[@angeldust4]

@@2K4Studio whenever i see a lack of trigger discipline it makes me so madddd

[@jolyne_kujo_04]

@@angeldust4 in most games pretty much everyone is hostile to you so you shouldn't really care about trigger discipline in such environment

[@angeldust4]

@@jolyne_kujo_04 no i personally practice trigger discipline after every shot if im on single fire it just makes me so mad and you'd never see any military men having their finger on the trigger while behind cover or something

[@jolyne_kujo_04]

@@angeldust4 yeah I meant non military settings like GTA 5. They don't have to practice trigger discipline as they're "civvies" in a way.

[@aveteranplayer6403]

The beginning is outstanding. I had my little sister once, she is 6 years old and she was shouting this "DOOR STUCK" without even knowing from where it comes from because she saw in one of those Roblox videos. Goddang so funny, I miss my childhood.

[@user-yn7rs6db2u]

its probably because she seen it in one of those “FUNNY MOMENTS” videos

[@agent7176]

Hopefully she learned

[@WingMaster562]

Door stuck, sister. Make that a step-sister and adult networks would love it as a premise. Just add bad acting and fake everything.

[@lunaticzeroone]

@@WingMaster562 oh no

[@gorlam1]

This comment took a quite turn

[@KanetheGoofster]

They Fixed the Foward assist Pull in Condition Zero and Deleted Scenes, But then Broke it Again with Source.

[@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565]

Maybe because CS:S just reuses CS 1.6's weapon animations and sounds (altrought with better audio quality) for everything instead of having its own, so its no surprise its also broken in Source, considering CS:S was a rushed game to demonstrate the potential of a CS on the source engine.

[@KanetheGoofster]

@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 At least css aint Hl source where it's Literally the Original Ported in Source, Only Grafical Improvements where on the HD Models (Which are Broken)

[@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565]

@@KanetheGoofster yeah yeah I know, but Its obvious that Valve never cared about half life 1 on the Source engine. Especially when you consider that half life 2 was going to be their big game release in less than 1 or 2 months after HL:S. They clearly Just made It as a Quick cashgrab to attract people to their groundbreaking New engine at the time and never cared enough to make a good port. Still dickish move selling It as a Full game instead of at least making It a bundle with half life 1, but HL:S was never going to be good because it was made quickly to attract customers to their engine, not the game, and Half life 2 would basically cover up ALL the scandal about HL:S so dont act as If they tried to make It good, because they never cared. CS:S however IS one of those rushed but good games, because despite being a ctrl+c ctrl+v with New pyshichs and worse recoil and movement, It was developed decently by TRS under pressure from Valve to be finished in time, and despite the final product not attracting many players due to Source being way too simplified in comparison to 1.6, I'm Glad they worked on It, because Its from a random match after a hard and stressful day of work that they decided to present Valve with the Idea of a Co-op zombie shooter that we all know and love. Also I kinda like CS:S, would put It in a low tier in comparison to the other CSs, but Its a decent and Fun game to play.

[@foxsteve9937]

@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 bro u gotta be kidding if u think css reuses 1.6 models maybe is based on it cuz is literally an entire new engine

[@foxsteve9937]

@Kalina Ann u think they copy and paste from one game to another thats how it works ? lol

[@aruan7sp]

Some of the errors can be excused due to hardware limitations of early 2000's computers (using the same sights for every sniper rifle, pseudo-transparent magazines). Others were just being lazy (mirroring viewmodels, worldmodels using the old beta versions).

[@diablotry5154]

The mirroring of view models isn't being lazing, it's saving time

[@aruan7sp]

@@diablotry5154 If this was a free mod, I could understand, but after CS was bought by Valve and became a commercial product? It's lazy that it was never fixed.

[@bergenske]

@@aruan7sp true

[@user-br6cu4ln6q]

Valve is very careless in CS

[@feston4032]

2000 era video games is all about fun, not impressing players with every itsy bitsy details like the bolt, safety, view models, etc. Note that when cs 1.6 was being created, he did mention about the lead being left handed so he mirrored all models

[@nonamejustbecause]

4:29 surprised you didn't mention the fact P90s eject casings downwards so there shouldn't be casings ejecting out in the view of the player

[@munanchoinc]

i just forgot.

[@CausticAscarite]

​@@munanchoinc I forgor 💀

[@perfecttroubler1767]

@@CausticAscarite forgor 💀

[@kvdrr]

please make a pinned comment mentioning stuff you missed

[@SCRPXXL]

@@perfecttroubler1767 he forgor 💀

[@ThisIsNoir]

4:46 dude wants to eat the shells so bad

[@jolyne_kujo_04]

Oddly fitting username and pfp

[@a.k8185]

Brings back some memories to the old ages. Guns may have been extremely innaccurate but they felt good to use

[@adirblazkowics7717]

Yeah, when the shot even hits lol

[@Iau99h]

World model & HUD of M4A1 uses a ACOG due to its older versions In fact, in the Betas of the game, M4A1 used an ACOG instead of a silencer

[@TrashGoblin824]

It actually used both an ACOG and a silencer

[@HSnMv1]

World models are from early versions of CS like BETA 5.2, M4a1 used to have a scope like AUG and SG552. All weapons view models are left handed (Minh Le aka. Gooseman was left handed) mirrored around BETA 6.0 for right hand view.

[@PieroMinayaRojas]

How to fix stuff in video games Other game developers: *they update the game* Valve: *download mods*

[@marcowulliampopirers2216]

also applies to bethesda

[@thewolf7668]

@@marcowulliampopirers2216 now to Cyberpunk too, mods fix most of the game and performance problems.

[@zonk4718]

The P90s casings shouldn’t be visible since it ejects downwards irl

[@WcropoliX]

2:16 I'm still surprised you didn't mentioned the fact that if you shoot 1 bullet and reload it will reload both guns even though you only shot with 1

[@kebabit707]

technically did, they mentioned most/all guns use the empty reloads even when not empty

[@EmpanadaDeCaca]

He did at the start of the video, pay attention

[@crilex2030]

I thought the guns would be more accurate due to Gooseman (original dev of cs) actually firing guns irl like handguns and shotguns in a gun range (also reading gun magazines) but not automatic because it's apparently illegal. Good video

[@Phenixtri]

full auto in the US IS Legal just stupid expensive since its only illegal to buy anything full auto made after 1986 as a civilian ..... granted parts kits registered before 1986 are still legal like the stemple 76 sub machine guns as well as guns made and or registered before 1986. I know our gun laws in the USA are not only retarded but as per our constitution said idiotic laws should technically be null and void for violating said constitution.

[@crilex2030]

@@Phenixtri Wow thats fucking stupid. I guess the stereotypes of America being the pew pew nation aren't so true

[@astarothhentaiguy3554]

Hes probably a fudd

[@BabzaiWWP]

he probably only used references in magazines or stuff when modeling the guns and used the knowledge gained from firing them to create how they feel to use in game

[@crilex2030]

@@BabzaiWWP exactly

[@brosephjames]

Still the coolest looking and sounding AK in any game. It looks slick and menacing with those sharp edges and slim features. Modern games are more rounded, worn, rusted, bulbous. Probably more realistic but meh

[@narrowgauge0727]

i think css does the ak a little better cause it has better proportions

[@Ultra289]

Never liked css ak reload animation and sound (same as 1.6)

[@necrobynerton7384]

I'm gonna go on a limb and say it was terrible, but I'd still take it over the way too weirdly "rounded" aks that are used in many games (like you mentioned). I don't know what it is but I hate the ribbed cover (as i hear it is called) and prefer the smoother cover. Or alternatively have pic rail on top but that is off topic

[@FreGZile]

agree, sounds and look iconic

[@hdog9046]

One more thing about the M4, the dust cover closes after every shot instead of staying open.

[@jaycycling497]

Like a flappy arm of an old lady lol

[@CoolyCools]

They just cant make the overworld weapon sprites look super detailed, its old as hell they never paid any attention to those

[@lambda-m1676]

*models

[@marcowulliampopirers2216]

yeah buthe isnt complaining about the low quality but that they are portrayed incorrectly,infact without those errors (the silencer for the USP,the scope for the M4) it would actually be LESS detailed

[@djblinboy]

Well one of the creators Cliff, their parents dont let him into a weapon training, and other creator Minh, just dont wanted to go alone, so they dont really know how the weapons work

[@ambi_cc8464]

they couldve looked it up

[@wibs0n68]

@@ambi_cc8464 bro its 1999 the internet is very new

[@a.k8185]

An oldie game with many in-accuracies, but classic. Video is nice.

[@jolyne_kujo_04]

6:20 shouldn't the mag be reloaded slightly tilted like an AK does instead of straight in like an AR-15?

[@govinlock8568]

The model is 7.62 NATO variant and it uses 25 round mag for that cartridge. The mag is correctly straight like that.

[@jolyne_kujo_04]

@@govinlock8568 ok thnx

[@AidaMusic03]

@@govinlock8568 Dumbass, he's talking about inserting the magazine into the gun. It should be rock and lock like an AK instead of inserting it straight like an ar-15 platform rifle

[@GerstoxParty]

@@govinlock8568 Nope, the Galil ARM uses rock and lock just like an AK.

[@thrust_vectoring_spitfire]

Jonathan Ferguson is the Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK of which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history

[@johnwitherell6662]

The MP5 can be loaded like that. It's hard to seat a full magazine on a forward bolt, though, so typically the bolt is locked backwards before inserting the new magazine, but it can be done.

[@Futo_no_mononobe]

Even as innacurate as these animations are, you can't deny that the reloads anims are satisfying as hell

[@sephirotic87]

You missed the fact that the 7x62x51 ammunition from snipers can be "shared" with the AK. (when throwing weapons in the ground and grabbing new ones)

[@bonkmaykr]

Everything wrong with the Five-SeveN: - The Five-SeveN is fairly accurate

[@marcowulliampopirers2216]

i was waiting for a video like this,thank you

[@JamesyJNA]

This game had its errors and bugs..but it was a legendary game.

[@Zydan.]

Bro this old game have the finger animations as well for pulling the trigger.

[@Bulbman123]

Interestingly the US Secret Service used the SIG P229 chambered in .357 SIG until 2019, in fact I think the SIG P228 is the only one of the 3 main P220 series that CAN'T be chambered in .357 SIG XD (9x19mm only) Great vid :)

[@JoCaTen]

Counter Strike 1.6 i remember those days, zombies, tons of variants of cs_assault, fy_pool_day, deathrun and more.

[@yvesheinrich5013]

Awesome video and researched well for the purpose! I also very much enjoyed the music you used in the background, LOL! Would you mind sharing the music?

[@yourfbiagent9011]

most of these might be due to tech limitation (speaking of the game was made back at 2003 corresponding it just being a mod in half life) and some of them is intentional to make it somewhat a little more different than the actual guns irl which is why the name of these guns are distantly different than the actual names it has either way that is a great analysis and i love the nostalgia this brings me

[@Adriethyl]

Names are different due to copyright. You can steal a gun's appearance, but not its name apparently.

[@julesbenedictcatalan4904]

I believe that 100 years later, this game will never die

[@mumtazaffan170]

Lord Gaben creations will never die

[@zaicanna96]

Prob one of the most likeable games ever made are from valve

[@damsen978]

How come there's no mod that fixes the flipped models and the M4A1 not pulling the right thing when reloading/drawn?

[@BalkanGold]

god damn it nexon always should appear somewhere

[@somudradas976]

Now csgo has an accurate awp with 5 bullets

[@mahmoodsattuf3058]

I really appreciate the fact that you guys put Palestine as guns' origin and not that "Country" that actually not exists , thank you

[@cosmefulanito7510]

That's a bit racist

[@BossXygman]

What does IMI stand for then, come on big guy, speak up

[@Cd5ssmffan]

@@cosmefulanito7510 The jews are not semites, and not a nation.

[@Cd5ssmffan]

@@BossXygman palestIne Military Industries

[@abbuw-]

The TMP IS a closed bolt gun, it even has a funky rotating barrel recoil system, which is probably misinterpreted by the animator as the bolt rotating. You also don't have to lock back an MP5, simply pulling the charging handle back is enough to chamber a new round in.

[@Smilex_Gamer]

Saw the final screen and got me wondering if you would try doing a "Everything Wrong with Counter-Strike Online's Weapons" haha

[@motivaciontotal5310]

Galil: - Origin: Palestine **You are fucking based**

[@OrchestratedChicanery]

Man, you are ruining childhoods out here.

[@mikevismyelement]

The vaporwave is giving me too much high school nostalgia please stop

[@a.b.3455]

Weird thing you kind of missed was the M4s dust cover opening and closing with every shot.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

(It's worth pointing out that the TMP is actually a closed-bolt blowback SMG)

[@nathan-lf7yc]

What’s the name of the song used?

[@ScoDucks]

Can you post the link to the McIntosh Plus “You’re Move” edit? Good vibes, good video!

[@Y10HK29]

Wait, aren't the stock of the awp suppose to be black and only the awm has the olive green stock? Or are they both interchangeable

[@fyretnt]

You forgot to mention that the m4 dust cover opens and closes instead of remaining open

[@shanecunningham305]

What is the background song?

[@unamelable256]

Is one of moments when you just don't care about those problems and just enjoy your game

[@roscosthebalm]

im so glad they made it so that you actually pull the charging handle for the m4 in conditon zero

[@muhamadhzz]

Nothing wrong with P228? It is available in multiple calibers and .357 SIG is one of it, or am I wrong?

[@yesanameirequested1682]

The P90 also ejects the rounds upwards, instead of downwards, since the ejection port is under the magazine.

[@fckSashka]

when i saw the thumbnail i just thought ‘oh boy here we go’ also didn’t expect vaporwave and cs1.6 to be such a great match

[@paladynwiecznegostazuzkraj75]

From what I know the TMP is actually a closed bolt system.

[@Flowerboymii]

The color of the usp model dropped is the one used in beta 6.1

[@arcticowl1091]

What do you mean incorrectly depicted as closed bolt, the steyr tmp is a closed bolt gun. Nowhere does it say that it’s open bolt ever.

[@richard_returns_IRL]

one thing you missed about the awp is the firing animation is done incorrectly instead of using his firing hand he is using his other hand instead but in real life doing this kind of action would be awkward and unbalanced as a left handed shooter you learn to reach over when using right handed bolts so you can stay more consistently on target

[@christiandelacruz9224]

I thought i am the only one who notice of the reloading animation of m4a1 that the character reload at foward assist intead on charging handle

[@AidaMusic03]

I think you forgot about the rock and lock motion for the magazines of the IMI galil, the SIG rifles and the G3SG

[@liammeech3702]

How come Valve never seems to do partial/+1 reloads?

[@pksmd_dag]

The World models AND the Hud has CS BETA 1.0 - CS BETA 5.2 if you wouldn't tell. Also If i download the non steam ver, It includes the model "v_knife_r" Meaning that the 1.0 knife model is in the game files

[@UnixSolstice]

Also the p90 ejects shells to the right rather than straight down

[@thevengefulone57]

Song in the vid?

[@robo-jesus6602]

Could you do one on Cry of Fear if possible?

[@SL_RivviN]

you failed to mention that the glock 17 barrel should be tilted up with the slide locked

[@beratsamsung0427]

goldsrc physics: get stuck lol the person stuck on the door: HELP

[@Dabadi4834]

Can you also do the condition zero weapons if that’s possible?

[@Agent.Noobis]

but they are the same

[@KanetheGoofster]

@@Agent.Noobis they Look Slighty Different and the M4 Reload is Fixed, Still is Too similar to 1.6 so Doesn't Deserve an EWWW

[@Kaspar_Houser]

Shell ejections are still top notch in CS 1.6! Love those!

[@hehitmewiththatalphabetsou3337]

1:30 well the safety isn't physically in the safe position, it would have stuck prominently upwards if so. What's happening here is that the little white indicator line is too high or the safety is a little too low, which causes the line to point at the white S instead of the red F like it should.

[@scantyer]

Me how knows nothing about guns watching this: yeah seems right i guess

[@s_callahan]

If I ever make a shooter I'm emailing this guy to pick apart the guns I've made and adapt/fix them accordingly

[@miguelbat27]

You forgot to mention that the P90 ejects spent cartidges from the bottom and the dust cover on the M4 doesn't jump around while firing aswell as the upper reciever being badly modeled. Also that flashbangs don't leave you blind for a short time but I can forgive that since being discombobulated can feel like going "blind" for a short amount of time kind of like a concussion.

[@propergordon]

the fact that they almost fixed everything in this video in the source version

[@guymanguy]

yall nitpick too much

[@combineshowcases]

SONG NAME PLEASE

[@pavelmorozov6599]

you can see through the ak when the charging handle is reciprocating. and yeah the proportions are way off, you cant even engage the safety because the dust cover is blocking the safe position. and also it wouldnt even cycle because that huge dust cover is in the way.

[@CoolPeaGaming]

If your team is using usp without silencer it will show he has silencer

[@zjanez2868]

you forgot the flapping ejection cover on the m4

[@serbpepe2683]

For a game released 23 years ago and people still play it every day it just doesn't need to be better than that despite having modes for better like skins and animations. And original game is made by engine from 1999.

[@jaycycling497]

I just find it very funny and hilarious at the same time pulling the forward assist to cock the M4 lol that's cute 😄

[@Tehstampede]

I love that this is set to Macintosh + 420 Floral Shoppe or whatever it's called lol

[@frostsoul4199]

i'm honestly surprised he didn't mention the ejected shells from the P90 basically erupting out of the top of the gun

[@unamelable256]

What is original of this song?

[@carbon8ed]

Shocked you didn't mention the dust cover automatically closing itself on the M4.

[@clydemarshall8095]

My question is why the Hell did they originally model everything to be left handed. Even at the time it came out the majority of people, tactical teams included, were primarily right handed or at least trained to shoot that way.

[@riz931]

Can we just talk about the broken hand rig?

[@GrammerPancreas]

While it's not really 'wrong', it is kind of interesting that the M3 is exclusively pump action in the game. In real life it's a semi-auto with a pump action fallback for rounds with less propellant, and while you *can* use it as just a pump action shotgun, you'd have to be absolutely insane to do so in a combat situation, and you'd be wasting so much money by doing so when cheaper, better pump-action solutions like a Remington/Mossberg/Ithaca exist. Also, there is a 7-round version of the Benelli M3, so it's actually not incorrect for it to have 8 rounds, though the game does not have a 'one-in-the-chamber' system.

[@TheAkrillion]

Pump Action M3 is cooler.

[@GrammerPancreas]

@@TheAkrillion Why not just use any of the infinitely cooler looking other pump-only shotguns, then? That's what they did for CS:GO, they went with the Nova instead. At least with the SPAS-12, which is a similar case in the Half-Life games and a lot of other media, I can excuse that because it is a damn cool-looking gun.

[@Xxsarkan411xX]

man i miss the old gun sounds so much

[@FalbereChan]

1 more sin: P90 ejecting spent casings out the right side of the gun (it should eject straight down)

[@gunmasterdude]

Yes. Door stuck incident. Good time.

[@no-one6790]

The m4a1 one really hurt my brain

[@WednesdayMan]

some errors are the following, hardware, storage and engine limitations (Counter-Strike 1.6 runs on the Half-Life 1 game engine) the FOV problem is because you're running the game in 16:9 instead of 4:3.

[@Shunieeez]

The song is called Macintosh Plus 420 (cover) by Marble Pawns. Thank me later

[@narrowgauge0727]

atleast the parts that are suppost to move actully move, unlike in css like im talking the flashlight on the m3 super doesnt move with the pump action

[@meltdown798]

ah yes good old classic cs

[@HypeMan-ib2ci]

Now i know why awp is called awm in different games.

[@1MusicNote]

The M4A1 look's like it has a ACOG in the world model.

[@ryonagana]

those pseudo transparent texture is due the game uses 8 bits textures, even if you play in 32 bits mode the textures are still 8 bits without alpha channel

[@Maxio1606]

4:36, note that P90 ejects spent casings downwards.

[@user-qv3fj2nk3b]

5:25 Also,Whenever you reload the M249 when it still has ammunition and you reload it The Bullets in the Magazine Disappear,It has a similar effect to the UMP-45 where the bullet casings in the mag do not match the current amount of ammunition. Alongside the AUG,SG 552 and the CT Auto sniper. Also,The G3 and many other firearms of this game dosen't play the full animation.

[@taxanimated]

He said that all the reload animations use the same empty magazine animation

[@user-qv3fj2nk3b]

@@taxanimated So? How does that not prove my point?

[@taxanimated]

@@user-qv3fj2nk3b it means ge technically did note that error

[@user-qv3fj2nk3b]

@@taxanimated But he didn't say about the unfinished reload animations.