Everything You Need to Know to Build Aphelios - Daynean 14.19 Guide

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@Flip2741
@Flip2741 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. IE best first items so far. Sometimes when game goes late and I have enough money I will just buy runaan. It definetely helps with 1v9, and some waveclearing when comeback is needed
@xyl_Miasma
@xyl_Miasma 4 ай бұрын
happy to see my Lunari Boy comes to same conclusions as me, Certified Phel Classic
@destrasteven2129
@destrasteven2129 4 ай бұрын
I have been finding some success with shieldbow rush, its cheap gives u good ad and the shield is good for all ins
@Teyq
@Teyq 4 ай бұрын
In patch 14.20, Collector and Yun Tal will cost now 2950 gold both but with the following nerf : Collector -> 60 to 50 Yun Tal -> 65 to 60 AD passiv dmg decrease 70 to 60 What are your thoughs abt it ? On top of that, really nice video bro, do you mind if I use it to explain my french followers about how to build Aphelios for this patch?😊
@Blu_Moon_Owl
@Blu_Moon_Owl 4 ай бұрын
The build I go for is Infinity to Phantom Dancer or LDR then the other followed by Shieldbow and the last slot is whatever seems good at the moment. Plus berserk shoes usually
@Teh_Umby
@Teh_Umby 3 ай бұрын
RE: The Collector - "Don't." This is the first time I've come across this channel and I like this guy already.
@tinomadre9412
@tinomadre9412 4 ай бұрын
this was really helpful, ive felt pretty lost this patch lol.
@harundemir4585
@harundemir4585 4 ай бұрын
I was struggling to build. Thank you so much
@mihavauh695
@mihavauh695 4 ай бұрын
great advice, very concise. i have a question tho, why put 3 in q then max e? aleksis, SA phel demon thinks yomus and emax from start are best, almost true dmg at one item. is 3 points in q just for better minion last hits?
@cool_lime44
@cool_lime44 4 ай бұрын
U need some ad for letahily too work, its better to go balanced like wise with how health/armor works ig. Phel gets 2 ad per level.
@slaternitta1824
@slaternitta1824 4 ай бұрын
first 3-4 lvls ad is more useful for last hitting and lethality doesnt really do anything that early anyway
@daynean
@daynean 4 ай бұрын
Not really for the minion last hits no, I'm just not a big fan of committing so many points this early into Lethality while not knowing how the early game as a whole is gonna play out. Say i put 3 points into E right away, but we end up losing botside minute 7-12' or sth, those points in lethality might mess you up because lethality as a whole is pretty meh if you're already losing. Early points in E mean you have to delay points into Q/W by a couple levels which can mess up your scaling by quite a bit in my experience where you might need Attackspeed from your passive but can't get it fast enough. I'm generally not a fan of early points into E levels 1-3 because of that, cuz the advantage you gain is kinda minimal compared to the potential setback. Not sure if I'm explaining this in a way that makes sense, but hope this helps somehow :>
@Borgolii
@Borgolii 3 ай бұрын
I miss the kraken slayer..
@jessegarciaiv5380
@jessegarciaiv5380 4 ай бұрын
Collector is definitely going to be the go to in the upcoming patch.
@tatat_8
@tatat_8 4 ай бұрын
have you read 14.20 patch notes? any changes or your mind for the buildpath? great video
@dexterjh
@dexterjh 4 ай бұрын
thank you for your video in southkorea
@maayanalon5222
@maayanalon5222 4 ай бұрын
lets gooo another video
@RainDrowned
@RainDrowned 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great advice sir c:
@Minwano18
@Minwano18 4 ай бұрын
dude i remember back when Crit items were 20% i used to go infinity edge into yomus and it was giga strong, now its justifiable to do it
@Panda-nx6ok
@Panda-nx6ok 4 ай бұрын
I was waiting this video for a bit of hope, but we came to the same conclusion anyway. I personaly like to go with the other rune (cash back i think in english) I do 3 crit item + boots rank 1 and then i use the cash back monney to buy the zephire (its a legendary 3100 gold item, so 186 cash back) i also use triomph for 200 to 700 gold/game and if i need a spike for a fight i can use the cash back gold to buy a red pot and have a situational gatherim storm.
@foser1699
@foser1699 4 ай бұрын
Hey Daynean mind explaining why AS is bad on aphel? You said zeal items aren't recommended but can be build if MS needed. I'm asking myself if runaan couldn't be an option?
@lam.hg06
@lam.hg06 4 ай бұрын
I build Hubris first item for Aphel rn, into standard crit build which is LDR IE Shieldbow BT. Hubris's stats and price is good early game and the bonus AD on take down scales pretty good late game too. LT damage scales off attack speed and Aphel doesn't build attack speed
@BretMFNTaylor
@BretMFNTaylor 4 ай бұрын
Hubris has been a sleeper item fr. It can give you so much stats, especially in a active game.
@theduskmonarch6207
@theduskmonarch6207 4 ай бұрын
I think Yun Tal seems like a bait item because of the conditions for it to proc. You need to have enough crit in order to make it work, but buying it later as third or fourth item feels terrible, as the dot is insignificant at that stage. I think an argument can be made for it as second item after IE. The dmg really isnt all that different against tankier comps with IE LDR. IE into YTW followed by either LDR/MR for penetration and then BT or Shieldbow in either order is a pretty strong build where you use most items at their respective optimal times
@HorusPrimarch
@HorusPrimarch 4 ай бұрын
70 dot dmg is alot tho
@theduskmonarch6207
@theduskmonarch6207 4 ай бұрын
@@HorusPrimarch it is if you deal 300 dmg per auto attack but not if you deal 900 with fullbuild
@omnieinar
@omnieinar 4 ай бұрын
thanks man
@ImShawnFrost
@ImShawnFrost 3 ай бұрын
What about swiftness boots ? I've been testing it and finding it pretty good to be able to position aggressively while still having a lot of kiting options : playing champions like kalista,kaisa,ezreal, they dont struggle to pressure/reach out for ennemies and finish them and retreat if needed. I've found aphelios lacks that possibility since he's so heavy and slow : (not much attack speed, zeal items movespeed nerfed, clunky animations, no dashes no movespeed without red Q). Without swiftness, It feels like there is no way to position to get kills while also not getting rundown at by 400ms tanks/bruisers/supports, at least for me on that champ.
@paulbossgaming
@paulbossgaming 4 ай бұрын
ty my goat !
@rotoun4
@rotoun4 4 ай бұрын
hi can you make some short video about which skills u should upgrade when level up?
@HorusPrimarch
@HorusPrimarch 4 ай бұрын
IE into BT and mortal reminder was good last patch, and will be good this patch aswell. nothing really changed imo
@domengrabrijan8941
@domengrabrijan8941 4 ай бұрын
My goat
@Okayyyyyy-h2o
@Okayyyyyy-h2o 4 ай бұрын
collector will be cheaper next patch 14.20. Will it be a good first item?
@bkickhofel
@bkickhofel 4 ай бұрын
Have you tried any opportunity builds? Similar stats to ghostblade, less out of combat ms but more in combat ms. Been trying it out lately and its been feeling pretty good
@czaro1472
@czaro1472 4 ай бұрын
Fast question. Is it worth to miss 100% and stay on 75%. Is Statick so good item or Its better to hit 100% crit chance?
@leevosh
@leevosh 4 ай бұрын
I was building yuntal-ldr-pd as a core for a couple games but in retrospect youmuu-ldr-pd makes more sense
@grassxtoucher
@grassxtoucher 4 ай бұрын
Damn the ms on those items must go crazy
@ioannishussein8038
@ioannishussein8038 4 ай бұрын
Determine which items are favourable for you and which are not recommended based on match-ups and current leads.
@setter9
@setter9 4 ай бұрын
i don’t even tell other adc players that they’re building like shit, let them spend 3400 gold for 60 ad, 10 (TEN???) lethality and 25 crit. compared to yomuus which is 600 less gold and gives 8 more lethality and the same amount of ad
@HorusPrimarch
@HorusPrimarch 4 ай бұрын
but youmuus has no crit, no execute, and no snowballing passive
@oui2826
@oui2826 3 ай бұрын
How come all the chal otps still go collector first? All they do is collector into IE into situational items
@TORBAA
@TORBAA 3 ай бұрын
outdated collector's price went down and is a better item now
@wafelwar9769
@wafelwar9769 4 ай бұрын
What about full lethality on phel?
@agrape2887
@agrape2887 4 ай бұрын
im just starting out playing aphel, whats his best offhand in your opinion?
@anthonyturner6399
@anthonyturner6399 3 ай бұрын
It’s not about the best off hand, it’s about the best combo of guns you have. Severum/Flamethrower is great for team fights as long as they don’t burst you. Chakram/Calibrum is great for shooting over walls/safetly alongside a great way to build chakras before committing fully to the fight Severum/Gravitum makes you impossible to chase unless the person has a gap close, and it also allows you to turn on them too. Also assassin jumps on you, you can Severum Ult - Q and then switch to gravitum and stun allowing you to get away or kill them. Calibrum/Gravitum is great whenever you are in a Pick comp because you can either safely lockdown someone or just straight pick them off and start stun chain yourself. Also be mindful of Triple combos too. At like around level 5 you can use up Gravitum then you can use most of your flamethrower ammo until you you have single digits left, then Q the minion wave and if you used Severum first (which is standard) you should then have it back, allows you to Q again, Gapclosing and also building up chakras before going for a trade/All in. If the enemy doesn’t die and just runs away you can then just push bot wave, ping the dragon or walk into the enemy jungle and place a ward/Take a buff for a guaranteed reward play and very very few bot lanes are able to deal with a 10 chakra Aphelios.
@rankupwithme
@rankupwithme 4 ай бұрын
ive been doing just a cloak with 3 items to get 90% and then move on to an actually useful item oh PS: bersekers got completely destroyed its crazy
@cleanselol1
@cleanselol1 4 ай бұрын
vídeo maneiro, acho que yun tal talvez nem seja tão ruim, mas ter gume e cutheal é tão roubado que nem precisa de mais nada, ainda gosto da runa azul de secundária, estacar o máximo de ad possível e poxa, acho que você se enganou a respeito do lethal tempo, de fato PTA faz muita falta na lane, mas o quanto o lethal tempo amplifica o dano do aphelios a partir dos 15min é brincadeira
@yoongifem
@yoongifem 3 ай бұрын
Porfa que alguien subtitule :'u
@adamlarsson7747
@adamlarsson7747 4 ай бұрын
SO when is mage nerf coming ive been getting onetapped by poke mages support with one item for like 2 years now if i fail to dodge ONE SPELl
@ΠαναγιωτηςΓαρμπης-ψ8σ
@ΠαναγιωτηςΓαρμπης-ψ8σ 4 ай бұрын
Tbh collector is the iphone of riot
@Waterboysplash
@Waterboysplash 4 ай бұрын
BOTRK???????????? AM I TROLLING FOR ASKING WHY YOU DIDNT EVEN CONSIDER THIS ITEM :?
@ExoticPigs
@ExoticPigs 4 ай бұрын
i was thinking the same or even opportunity as an item
@HorusPrimarch
@HorusPrimarch 4 ай бұрын
botrk is on hit. aphelios is a crit champ, not on hit
@yumikaze2034
@yumikaze2034 4 ай бұрын
all of these weird changes is now making me more and more stop playing the game it’s almost as if the game’s entirely different now from before
@Decaying_Inside
@Decaying_Inside 4 ай бұрын
I thought people used collector for the 5 percent execute lol
@Nikolow
@Nikolow 4 ай бұрын
lol
@petrikillos
@petrikillos 4 ай бұрын
I've been saying that collector's bait for months but people won't believe me
@HorusPrimarch
@HorusPrimarch 4 ай бұрын
collector is very good for snowballing and has that kind of dmg impact no other item has. also good for kill secure and you're just shredding people with 3 items including collector
@petrikillos
@petrikillos 4 ай бұрын
@@HorusPrimarch This is insane cope. You are delaying your spikes for an extremely mid passive and half passable stats in lane. Also no tf you are not shredding anyone with collector unless they have no armor whatsoever.
@HorusPrimarch
@HorusPrimarch 4 ай бұрын
@@petrikillos collector is a good snowballing item. but I don't use it on aphelios. just saying
@adamlarsson7747
@adamlarsson7747 4 ай бұрын
Adc role shit now cus tristana mid abusers just nerf tristana instead of giga nerfing all adc except on hit carries
@adamlarsson7747
@adamlarsson7747 4 ай бұрын
They might aswell just delete the fucking game, its so incredibly shit i have no words
@AuroraLight_x
@AuroraLight_x 4 ай бұрын
the only reason i watched this vid is to watch you yapyapyapyapyap, which is one of my favorite things in the world. Welcome to the world of terrible Items ADC Players, suck it. ♥
@servant_symm
@servant_symm 4 ай бұрын
How the fuck do you just randomly nerf EVERY single item of a whole class of items LMAO riot never fails to amaze me
@HorusPrimarch
@HorusPrimarch 4 ай бұрын
they did it with every class of items. they wanna make the games' durations longer and make snowballing harder. obviously it didn't work
@kapustka_xxx1118
@kapustka_xxx1118 4 ай бұрын
well all i can say that in this patch lethality phel is back for the reason of price and dmg. Let's do some math when u building IE first you're doing around 400 crit dmg but cuz of cost and early proccess of earning gold are not great..... i started to build yommu and collector for dmg also cuz of price and stats and i'm very okay with that cuz now with pta and not relying on early crits i' winning like 80% of all duels and teamfights (Master tier btw) mb i'm absolutely wrong and i'll be happy if someone share with their opinion but i would say that IE is bad but still is very important item
@kapustka_xxx1118
@kapustka_xxx1118 4 ай бұрын
P.S also now in botlane we will see more Kai'sa and Jhin cuz of Stattik and etc items cost
@valentinbonchev7485
@valentinbonchev7485 4 ай бұрын
IK ur insane at this champ, but i have a lot of success using this build: Collector + IE + LDR. IK also that ur rly high elo so everything should be as close to optimal as possible, but at least i am able to win my emerald games with it. I was also surprised that statick is an option, def would try it
@nathanmello4407
@nathanmello4407 4 ай бұрын
The problem with it is how painfully pricy this build is. You start with a 3400 gold item into a 3600 one. Although it does have the advantage of having dirk in the components; it doesn't level up. It lost the 2 lethality on upgrade and also lost AD for MORE PRICE. Holding onto this build requires good farm and a good lane; if you are put behind, you simply can't build and will take long to reache a spike; this kind of pressure and tempo is valued in higher elos the more you climb. With that said tho, all the ADC items are mid at best right now, so thats why lethality Aphelios is reviving. Aleksis had already covered the lethality start LAST SPLIT, and it now looks more promising that ever, lol.
@HorusPrimarch
@HorusPrimarch 4 ай бұрын
​@@nathanmello4407you do know that every other item has been patched aswell right? this means every other item is also more expensive. so it doesn't matter if collector and IE cost more. it's still the same game, same outcome
@nathanmello4407
@nathanmello4407 4 ай бұрын
@@HorusPrimarch - Not quite, because in some cases even with value put up; the gold efficiency doesn't go down that much. Collector increased 200 gold in price to lose AD and lethality; IE increased 200 gold to lose 10 AD. Youmuu's, for example, increased just 100 in gold for the active to be nerfed only to meeles; changed, but still good. The total outcome of the price of Collector and IE increased significantly and adds a whole 400 gold for you to have both items; as Daynean himself said, there are situations that IE first isn't going to be that good because if you are gatted from farming, you should go something else because if you try and bruteforce building IE you will have no item, no spike, be useless and won't be able to contest farm. "All items being nerfed" does not mean that all of them were nerfed equally. This is a big difference; which is why Aphelios is in a tight situation regarding itemization right now mainly on his first item, and he isn't the only one.
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