EVGA GTX 1660 Ti XC Review: Non-RTX Turing GPU

This review of the EVGA GTX 1660 Ti XC looks at NVIDIA's newest GPU in the ~$280 market, facing off versus Vega 56, the RX 590, and the GTX 1060 or RTX 2060.
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The GTX 1660 Ti releases today, at time of publication, and most directly succeeds the GTX 1060 6GB. The card competes with the RX 590 and RX Vega 56, falling below the RTX 2060 in performance. The 1660 Ti also gets rid of the RTX features and RT / Tensor cores, which assists in price positioning.
Cards tested include the RTX 2060, GTX 1660 Ti vs. GTX 980 Ti, GTX 970, RX Vega 56, GTX 1060, and many, many more.
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[@GamersNexus]

We took apart the EVGA GTX 1660 Ti here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJKWd2yMrMuSi5o Find our Battlefield V DLSS comparison here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGauloWVYp6iedk Review article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3445-evga-gtx-1660-ti-xc-review-benchmark

[@IVI2sR4VE]

quick question does the card support the newer nvenc chip i'm currently looking for a streaming pc upgrade and was wondering if dropping this in or upgrading the cpu is the better choice

[@bereanacademygamingclub4482]

@@IVI2sR4VEI'm also very curious for similar reasons and also our 1060 3GB is falling short in a few instances with VR(part of it could be the old xeons too). This could be a solid upgrade for the club's VR.

[@bobhumplick4213]

@@IVI2sR4VE from nvidias site "The GTX 1660 Ti comes equipped with the new Turing NVENC, the same NVIDIA Encoder found on RTX 20-Series GPUs. With this, and the new version of OBS Studio, you can game and stream from one GTX 1660 Ti PC without compromise, something that was previously impossible given the demands of live broadcasting. In other words, you can game at high detail levels and framerates, and simultaneously give your viewers a superior experience with a higher stream quality that has improved clarity and definition. For further details, head here." www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-ti/

[@bobhumplick4213]

so we see that nvidia will only offer realistic prices when they have a competitor. and amd are nowhere to be found above the 2060 level. and dont say vega 7 because its sold out because they only made a couple. and the vega cards are cheap now but only because they are clearing out stock and wont make anymore. i swear every day i become more and more certain that amd and nvidia are working together to not compete with each other and instead choosing to try to poach what they can out of intels marketshare. i think thats why intel is coming otu with a gpu. they finally caught on to it. i mean lisa su and jensen are cousins after all

[@totty2524]

1666789696969 Ti

[@youngscallywagfourteen4672]

16 is the legal age of consent for gpus

[@soaphelps]

16 going on 60.

[@starlson3442]

Just fuze the hostage omg

[@backupplan6058]

I have a suspicion the embargo just lifted.

[@thegirthquake8574]

A A What gives you that idea?

[@backupplan6058]

@Generic Memes I don’t know something to do with a dozen notifications the exact same moment sending my phone completely crazy. Maybe I’m wrong, could have just been a favourite hour for Tech tubers to post simultaneous.

[@bluesmachine1006]

Me too. I saw nothing then I had a wall of notifications from every platform :D

[@mathesar]

I'm fairly new to this channel but It's great how thorough you are in these reviews and you've quickly become my go-to when researching hardware.

[@chalpua8802]

Should have just called an GTX 2050 Ti

[@mamopy535]

i prefer GTX 1160 ti

[@abscessedcadaver8221]

@@mamopy535 That name it's still horrible.

[@WarDaddy]

*a

[@BrotherO4]

Than people will cry about the 50ti being 250 plus lol

[@mannamanam8233]

1160 is better 😀

[@deadbzeus]

Been looking forward to this review, thanks for all you and your teams hard work.

[@michaelsmit1281]

Hell yeah! Man I love your content because you’re actually talking about your products from an electrical engineering point of view; I’m here to stay in your channel mate 🤘

[@hokayuuu777]

I love how you get really technical in your explanations. subbed!

[@Lollakuk]

The 1660 Ti third party cards cost 370 Euros in Sweden which is insane. Can get a Vega 56 for 350 Euros with similar performance and 2 GB extra ram so its a no-brainer.

[@arroganceofficial2089]

vega 56 costs 270 in austria, and btw the vega 56 DESTROYS the 1660 ti

[@jari2018]

it were a mystery how cards like vega 56 and such disappered before the mining craze started -I were looking for a card not knowing there would be a mining boom but something happened and news or reporters were actually slow -like 3-4 weeks slow so there must have been information but nobody ..cared

[@MrFred-sm9nw]

This man and his team, to gather all this information for us viewers is a feat, is amazing. Thank you so much for what you do.

[@ForzaE2]

I watched this product from 3 different channel and I can honestly say yours is better than any other consedering what I am looking for. Thank you tech Jesus.

[@jom0bx189]

The amount of notifications I just got is horrifying. EVERYBODY just uploaded this video.

[@calidude1114]

Only notification I have is for a confirmed nuclear detonation within 100 miles, otherwise it’s not important enough.

[@jom0bx189]

Corvette Dude you’ll be okay

[@NimitzclassA]

Yeah i konw the feeling, that's why i deactivated the others and only kept GN' one...😉

[@Xenoray1]

Except linus Ö:(

[@colin8601]

Yeah the big difference between all these channels is who possesses some intelligent substance vs market hype, and who is on the Nvidia hate train vs who isn't.

[@TheQuenchingTurtle]

This is probably a random comment, but I've just found your channel as I'm rebuilding a PC and have begun finding all new channels on KZbin the have blown up since I last built a PC (Quite a few years ago), and while this may seem like a minor detail, the "countdown" bar on the side of your stats has made me hit sub button. Its a great feature in your videos or in at least this video, that allows me to watch and listen without the stress of missing certain information and having to rewind and stop and start your video. I might not have articulated it well, but its one of those small things that adds way more than it probably took to implement. Looking forward to more of your videos!

[@RealRaynedance]

"REEEEEEEEEEEEE MORE EXPENSIVE. HUAHUAHURAWRLUL SAME PRICE AS 1070!" MSRPs: $30 more than a 1060 6GB. $100 less than a 1070. Performs about on par with a 1070. Math says 1070 performance for $100 less than a 1070. Current pricing: Pascal cards are a few years old. Of course they're cheaper now. There's always the used market argument. Always. You could get a 980 Ti for about the price of a 1060 6GB if you tried hard enough, and the 980 Ti will win. Not everyone wants to buy used, even though they should consider it. Did we get a Maxwel to Pascal-esque jump? No. But we got more than the nothing people are making it out to be. And that's better than Intel could do with their CPUs from Sandy Bridge to Kaby Lake, and better than AMD could do in terms of pricing Vega 56 against the 1070 at launch.

[@joeallen7781]

@enemy boat After the same two years all AMD offers you is rehashed 480s with overclock aka 590 for 280$, or Vega room heaters. For those 280$ nvidia has 1660ti that smashes a 590, beats a Vega 56 if OCed, draws nearly half the power, and all this while Nvidia pretty much is just competing with themselves. Thanks Nvidia, you didn't have to.

[@schugabe]

With every gpu launch I look back at my 1070 i bought right after the launch and it still proves to be a good decision to get the 1070 😀

[@dufung3980]

1060 and up at still Golden.

[@Anonymous-xv7rz]

Yep I bought my 1070 FTW in september 2016 for 439.99. After seeing the bitcoin boom, crash, Nvidia's scumbag release of RTX, etc. I am more than content with my 1070. Probably going to get another for SLI and skip RTX all together.

[@Targetlockon]

1070 Fam

[@grante3679]

Got my EVGA ssc 1070 in December of the year it released for $350 something, just before the bitcoin craze, and it’s one of my few pc purchases I don’t regret. Also, I’m late to this video bc I landed here somehow after looking at phantek shift with 8700k.

[@grante3679]

And I’m also sad bc my gamer nexus shirt got a cut in it the first day I wore it.. rip disappointment pc tour shirt.

[@wayward03]

UPDATE : Newegg had a sale on a reference Vega 56 which is sold out, AMD did not lower the price of the card in general. -Forbes updated their article.

[@Hostilenemy]

Triple slot, single fan graphics card? What the ef, EVGA? Edit: I think I figured out why they're doing that. Given Nvidia's severe restriction on power target and max TDP, they are trying to save some wattage by reducing the number of fans on the cooler, which results in a larger (Thicker) heat sink compared to a regular two slot design. That's the only logical explanation.

[@ParasiteAdam666]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

[@AlexisWrenn]

Their cheapest 2060 is the same way

[@GeorgeD1]

Single-fan, triple slot makes no sense to me. A sinle-fan card's main application is in SFF systems, but most of the mITX cases on the market now don't even have space to even mount a triple I/O plate, regardless of the thickness of the card. Just two openings. It's ridiculous.

[@Mike_Hogsheart]

It could also be a consideration of width vs. length. Could be really useful in some ITX cases, although not every case will support triple slot, obviously. Ultimately, I think it is good to have all kinds of different form factors for graphics cards, more choice tends to be better.

[@EVR1AL]

Have you thought 3 slot producess less noize?

[@jonplay8522]

Is it worth extra $70 for rtx 2060 ?? Or just take 1660ti

[@pottuvoi2]

Really good that this card has the most interesting new features of Turing architecture. Hopefully mesh shaders and others will see usage in future. (This should at least help a bit on amount of users which it would be helpful.)

[@Lokaminiac]

Thanks for the testing and I like them. I hope you can do the benchmark testing with Overwatch game (One of the most popular e-sport 3d FPS game in Twitch). And I also hope that you can include some comparison with SLI gtx 1080 as well. I believe these tests will make your Review videos more complete and make them stand out comparing with those from other youtubers.

[@Mr.P.Griffith]

I have an RX 570... my neck hurts from looking up so high to compare.. I think it's time my Ryzen 2600x gets a suitable gpu to run AC O above 45 fps on mid settings. Thanks GN for the review.

[@kapsxd]

I would suggest the 2060 for your cpu. but if you don't want any rtx or you find it pointless. then get the 1660ti

[@AshtonCoolman]

Vega 56 at the same price as the 1660 Ti will be a killer! Power be damned, because I like tweaking and overclocking. EDIT: Steve then says the same thing later in the video. Note to self: wait until the end of the video to comment.

[@glennv3176]

Vega 56 has been on sale for $300 plenty of times now, it overclocks like a champ, it's within margin of error of an overclocked vega 64, trades blows with 1080/2060, sometimes 2070. If you undervolt and overclock V56 powerconsumption drops down to about 180-200 watts, it's not that powerhungry. It doesn't consistently beat 1080 & 2060 for average FPS but it does consistently beat both for 1% lows, which let's be honest, that's what you can actually see/notice. I wouldn't buy a 1660 over a V56. 50 watts/hour is liek $5/year

[@stanisawszczypua9076]

Here in Germany Vega 56 just dropped to 279 Euro :) for MSI blower version :(

[@ego4551]

@@stanisawszczypua9076 Sapphire Pulse for 299€ :)

[@acekorneya1]

yeah try to find a non blower style vega 56 for 279 dollars lol

[@MrGts92]

Either way, you have choice and competitive prices...which is what we want end.of the day.

[@CaptainGameSlayer]

The amount of detail and coverage he did on this one single card, is absolutely crazy. That's why I love this channel! DETAILS.

[@Mavon00]

R.I.P 1050ti !! Been gimping along for 3 years with it even after upgrading the CPU and Mobo last year. Looked at the Vega 56 now priced at $379 on amazon which is about the same price as the 2060 now. Ray Tracing for gaming is most likely 1-2 years away if it makes it into gaming at all. I'm thinking it will most likely be used for CAD, You Tubers, video editing, and other such things. So for now, with the GPU market having sooo many new products (and yet to be released), the GTX 1660 Ti looks to be at the right price point and performance for most casual gamers needing upgrades to the latest GPU boards. Excellent job on your evaluation of the 1660 Ti.

[@zoomzabba452]

Looks like I'm replacing my HEAVILY overclocked used 980 with an equally pushed used 1080. I just need more VRAM. 1920x1200 gaming yo. *edit* Love my 28" 1920*1200 , but will replace with a 34" 3440*1440 so I can ditch my 2nd display(22" 1080p). 980 is a Zotac Amp! Extreme with custom bios and shunt mods. Not afraid to get dirty. Preferred games are Bu(g)thesda with 100+ mods.

[@DanLMH]

I'm using a 980 for 1440p lol

[@zoomzabba452]

@@DanLMH I'll be stepping up to 3440x1440 with my next build.

[@DanLMH]

@@zoomzabba452 Very jealous, I've got an old 2560x1080 screen as my secondary at the moment, do miss the ultrawide as a main though, enjoy! :D

[@calebbruce3840]

Vega 64 is $50 cheaper than 1080 maybe think about that if all you need is 1440 performance and 8 g of vram or you're willing to spend $550 on it 1080 and RAM is your idea of future-proofing go with the Radeon 7 it's not much more comparatively speaking and yet twice as much RAM that'll last you till 2219 lol

[@zoomzabba452]

@@calebbruce3840 I should edit my post. I never buy new. Sniped my 980 for $200 used in mid-March 2017. They were normally used for $300 then. Also, 3440x1440 is ultrawide. 25% more pixels than 2560x1440p

[@maddisonmad2710]

AMD just cut the price of the Vega 56 to match the price of the 1660Ti. So now the 56 has more performance at the exact same price.

[@Xenoray1]

and the already 3 games addition is shooting at nvidia backs rly hard

[@johntotten4872]

If you check Newegg in the US there is only 1 card price cut (a basic blower design) all the other cards are $399 + in price.

[@EmperorUsul]

Already sold out on Newegg

[@maddisonmad2710]

@@johntotten4872 It has only been a few hours since they announced it. You'll need to give it some time to see cards for that price in stock.

[@GeorgeNoiseless]

Prices will propagate over time, unless you need to RUN OUT and JUST BUY right now, hold that horse. Now the TDP is another matter: 120 vs 210 W is not insignificant -- 1660 will end up costing you less in the long run.

[@linkplayshalo14]

This channel is so underrated. All the content is fantastic

[@Morden97]

Cool review... is there any chance of you reviewing some rtx thin and light laptops?? Theres some issue with the single channel vs dual channel ram in some of them and I'd really like to know from a reliable source whether a 2080 max q laptop is worth the premium vs a 2060 laptop.

[@jodhturka2155]

When can we see 1660ti in laptops??

[@sentinelcheese3420]

I'm looking to build a new PC this year. These naming is definitely helping me with my confusion even more. Thanks Nvidia! :D

[@robsolf]

Wow... rattling off all those specs that fast must be MADDENING. Tip of the hat to Steve for that massive barrage of numberspeak, and thanks for the video!

[@quickkillz]

Hey dude. I haven’t found a lot of news on the Nvenc encoder on this new card. Is it the same hardware that’s in the 20 series? I haven’t seen a good high level review and benchmark of the new nvenc encoder with OBS when compared to old 10 series cards. Do you guys have any plans to mess with it? I think it’s a decent selling point for nvidia and could make a difference to a potential buyer of a 20 series card if it performs much better while streaming.

[@pagb666]

You should really start to remove some cards from the graphs. Everything is so tiny...

[@Simon74]

Apex Legends is actully running on Source Engine and not Source 2!

[@ThiagoJaqueta]

I was searching the comments to see if anyone mentioned that haha.

[@Bannaja]

you mean sorse

[@cr4zyg047]

Ultra modified Source 1 at that.

[@rdmz135]

Its been modified so much so that it performs nothing like your usual Source games. CSGO for example is extremely CPU bottlenecked but Apex is almost completely GPU bound.

[@user-bv8wr3vw4x]

Source 2 in not even released.

[@integer0verload948]

Steve : on the DLSS review what version of NG driver where you using? It does the AI stuff. New driver release downgraded to 2.14 from 3.0 because of issues with 3.0 possible explanation of the blur that we have all noticed.

[@killawdog9473]

Great work. You are an invaluable source of information and insight. Thank you.

[@akupegu1622]

If the GTX 1070 comes below $200 now in the used market, I'll buy that. It has 8GB VRAM after all.

[@ShadowRomeo1784]

There are already 1070's that goes just slightly above $200. And i think that's a really good deal considering that the GTX 1660 TI and RTX 2060 is near $300 - $400 mark. With less Vram and not that much different when it comes to performance.

[@kaelk2704]

In my country a 1070 is $700-$1200 😔

[@brenaan_]

@G Dante lol recommending sli over a 1660 ti? Idk which planet you're living on

[@jassco2]

Yeah, went 1070 for tad over 200 used and plays 1440 for everything. Perfect, and 8GB allows more mods and textures. I’ll pass on this gen.

[@whydoihavetodothisannoying]

@G Dante Never go SLI/Crossfire, it doesn't work 80% of the time and you'll spend more time messing around with drivers and settings than actually playing games. Unless you play like 4 titles for half a decade that support it out of the box.

[@fifise8486]

Looking forward for a 1680ti = same perf that the 2080ti without the gimmicks at 1080ti launch price

[@madjackgamingandfitness498]

I bet they are very afraid of doing that. Nvidia has been trying hard to sell this rtx fad. If they release their own competition against them selves again they'll never get rid of extra stock.

[@VeiLofCognition]

they wont

[@whydoihavetodothisannoying]

Good luck with that, more realistic to look forward to living on Mars by 2020.

[@Haspei7]

I just upgraded my pc with a gtx 1660 ti. It's working exactly like the review show us. The only different is that in my case, the idle temp is around 39ºC. While with my old gpu (gtx 960) the idle temp was 30ºC with the same ambient temp.

[@imthestein]

I'd be very interested in seeing you guys do a joint video with Tech Deals. They did an interesting video about the 20 series cards showing cases where the 2080 TI justifies its price. So I'd love to see you both discuss this with regard to both hardware, testing, and cost analysis should it ever happen

[@dongurudebro4579]

That name,... NVIDIA why? *Just why!?* Ah and the Reasoning is still, just why? 0.o

[@marshallr.8121]

eh, still better than RazerBlade, always better than RazerBlade

[@LordAlacorn]

Nvidia: I LOVE MONEY!

[@marshallr.8121]

@@LordAlacorn uhh, duh, its a company in a capitalist system, it literally exists to make money

[@youngscallywagfourteen4672]

Because 16 is the legal age of consent for gtx cards

[@benderbg]

20xx needs to have ray tracing. Its been said xyz times by now.

[@zerospampls3980]

Ok i just chechked prices in europe (geizhals eu) and the Us (Pc partpicker, mircrocenter etc.) and the 1660ti is ~ 21% more expensive than the 590 so the value of those cards is pretty much the same. Vega 56 blowers are found for 5% less and dual fan cards for 5% and triple fan cards for about 10-15% more. - that said you shouldnt buy either of those cards cause you can get a 580 8GB which can be oced to a 590 for as little as 165 bucks. If you just want performance or if you like ocing/playing around with your card go far a vega.

[@herrakaarme]

If you have the dough, why shouldn't you buy this 1660 Ti or Vega 56? They are stronger cards than 580. You should always get the best you can afford and have use for, within reason (I don't think the RTX prices are reasonable, but some think otherwise, and it's their right to do so). Of course if your screen is 1080p 60Hz, getting 2080 or Vega VII, let alone 2080 Ti might seem like a waste. But then again, people who can afford those cards likely won't game on such a basic screen, at least not due to lacking money to invest in a monitor. In the end PC gaming is entertainment for most people, so any money used in it is superfluous money, sort of, on top of the money needed for living. If having a kickass video card makes you feel good, go for it. That's what it's all about.

[@Danegermouse1992]

Hey, what happens to the cards you test out? are they on loan for testing or do you just get left with a ton of spare cards all the time?

[@Kojiro3210]

the only reviewer with very VERY detailed info and actually shows the model of GPU used in the tests if its not refrence. the only one i trust as such.

[@Doobie3010]

AMD just reduced the price of its VEGA 56,to compete with these things.Who says competition is not important?

[@flagovhate]

Competition is beautiful :)

[@ChrisPBacon9]

Only fanbois would think competition isnt important. Competition leads to innovation

[@Doobie3010]

@@ChrisPBacon9 Yup, brand loyalty is a mugs-game! These multinationals only want the loot, not the loyalty!

[@chaywarburton3488]

Just want to say.. AMD dropped the price to their Vega 56 to kick this launch in the nuts. $279, 3 free games and you can OC, UV to reach similar V64 performance. I'll be doing that.

[@GhostAcez]

Good luck with that. They "dropped it" on a single card that had a really shit heat sink and failed to not crash in some games.

[@chaywarburton3488]

@@GhostAcez good luck in deed, it's doing fantastic. Lol

[@tee_es_bee]

Finally something I'm willing to part money for. It seems that the time of the 960 is coming to a close. :)

[@Kirinketsu_]

From watching a few reviews now the difference in models of the GTX 1660Ti from single to triple fans seem to have the biggest impact on a gpu in quite some time.

[@IGiganticusI]

Here in Sweden they go for 350+ bucks...

[@Thefuror38500]

One of the richest country in the world, you can afford it

[@avatarion]

RTX 2060 is way superior in Europe.

[@BarbecuedPossum]

Hi Steve, I hope you have some insight to this. I've had 3 graphics cards in a row last only a few months then stop working. I was using PC normally no overclocks etc then it just turned off, and automatically restarted but had no display, I tried the troubleshooting by manufacturer but the card is definitely broken even though another one in that slot works. What component could be breaking them? A bad motherboard/pcie slot? Power supply? Maybe it's just very bad luck but 3 cards in a year surely can't be :( I don't even know if u want to put the new warrantied card in, incase its damaged by something. Thanks :)

[@Yulad_A]

I would suspect the motherboard or power supply.

[@scatterforce]

My guess is PSU. If that goes bad, it will kill just about everything.

[@BarbecuedPossum]

@@scatterforce Yeah I was thinking psu as well mainly but it's never had any issues in terms of shutting PC down randomly or any symptoms. Guess I'll just build a whole new system with this new warrantied gpu but really sucks to not be able to test for sure to see which part

[@cbz21]

Ditch your psu and buy a good gold rated psu that meets your needs 650w usually is the sweet spot. Don't ever cheap out on a power supply!

[@BarbecuedPossum]

@@cbz21 I didn't it's a corsair hx850i, albeit a 5 year old one now

[@miguelangelriveiro]

I know this is completely offtopic... but thanks for the quality audio. Not that i like or dislike ( ;) ) your voice, but thanks for the effort of recording it so clear... So many channels out there with such a crappy sound. Thanks!

[@oOEnderHunterOo]

ok i havent seen your entire review yet but; i love the hair, also, loving the review and lastly i did already order this GPU and comming from a GTX 745 (yes you read that right 745) with a constant FPS count of a solid 30 anything is better xD

[@chaython]

1660ti does 66fps while the 1660ti oc is 69fps 1660ti 1660ti 1660ti 1660ti 1660ti Too much detail for a youtube video; I should stick to the article. You're getting much faster at reading during fps graphs

[@testingtester6908]

So a 1070 with 2GB VRAM less. NVIDIA sure is going insane with those power limits.

[@ardi1606]

Acctually it's a bit faster than 1070 and alot cheaper.

[@sunakokirishiki8949]

@@ardi1606 1070s are $300 new right now. That's like $20 cheaper if you get the tiny, crappiest 1660Ti. That's not "alot cheaper". It's also not faster than the 1070 if you bothered to actually watch the video, its about equal depending on the game. And you lose 2GB VRAM.

[@android175]

Sunako Kirishiki if you get the cheapest 1070 sure it is. With the 1660ti, the 1070 is outdated. Many 1070 are still $400

[@AtomicBleach]

Kudos to you good sir for being able to say 1660ti so often and fast. Was wondering how this card was going to stack up against the 2060 since I made that jump last month. Still feel like I made a good decision. With the card heavily overclocked Im able to have a steady 60fps with rtx turned on high on bfv singleplayer. Seems like multiplayer is less of a hit on performance.

[@ryanmilsom7409]

Hey Steve, thanks for the excellent video! however, I'm now even more confused! I was about to buy an RX280 for about £200 but my budget could stretch to £350ish for something that is going to last me for longer. I game at 1080p (fixed 60hz refresh rate) and my next upgrade after the GPU is likely to be a freesync 1080p monitor so what should I go for? Vega 56, GTX1660ti, RX580, RX590, RTX2060? or should I wait a month or so? Help, please!

[@Yoshi_206]

If you're sticking to 1080p I don't see a reason to get anything more expensive than the 1660ti.

[@DuallDude]

Upgrade to 1660 from 780?? Just a few generations to jump

[@ezodagrom]

GTX 1660 Ti is around 30~40-ish% better than the GTX 980, and the GTX 980 is around 40-ish% better than the GTX 780, so that would be a nice upgrade.

[@wabachi]

or you can wait a bit more....

[@wayward03]

ray tracing is a gimmick especially on those cards. the 1660ti scales well with 2060 on price per dollar.

[@greebj]

I replaced 670Ms in a laptop with 1070s :)

[@nicane-9966]

get a 2060 for 70dls more... is way better.

[@HisCarlnessI]

2060 appears to make more sense then this card. Since the price is only a chunk more, with a linear performance increase, 'and' one more feature, whether you're super into that feature or not... it just makes more sense to me. I may well end up upgrading to a 2060 from my 980ti in the near future, because it'd be good to have something fresh that doesn't warm up my room (with newer features and support.) I was really hoping the 1660 ti was going to perform equivalent to the 2060 or better without the rtx, because that was what I was hoping to buy lol.

[@sunakokirishiki8949]

You are falling for their marketing psychology real hard. That is exactly why they priced the 1660Ti so high while also removing regular performance. The drop from 2060 is a lot more than just the RT and Tensor cores. At their greediest this glorified 2050 should have been priced at $230~$250, but they destroyed everyone's perception of value so much with their RTX cards already that they figured they can get away with $280. And they actually are for some reason. Just because they overpriced their entire lineup horribly doesn't mean spending even more than you planned to is a "better value". Please, everyone, stop falling for it. Man...

[@HisCarlnessI]

@@sunakokirishiki8949 Except I'm looking at the objective p/$, and feature sets... not arbitrary names.

[@523motorsports]

What cpu is being used for those apex legend benchmarks?

[@will3641]

Always need to see what is inside of the Card!!!

[@op8ztv]

Where's the 1070? Definitely needed for these charts.

[@4GoodFever]

totally gonna buy a 1660 to play pac-man 4k

[@GermanLehmann98]

Steve, do you have any source (no pun intended) on Apex using Source 2? According to Respawn it's using a heavily modified Source 1. At least it was for Titanfall 2.

[@Slizzo82]

Steve, what you think now about value proposition? Looks like the card you reviewed is $289 on EVGA's website.

[@rodrigoprieto6400]

I'm still waiting for a GPU with 8 GB VRAM and a perfomance between 1070ti and 1080 for less than 350 USDs

[@OneDollaBill]

This. The 2060 should have been around 1080 performance with 8gb of VRAM and priced around 300. Guess I just have to wait till Navi drops later this summer

[@rodrigoprieto6400]

@@OneDollaBill Exactly!

[@wingracer1614]

That already exists. It's called a Vega 56 when on sale.

[@rodrigoprieto6400]

@@wingracer1614 Yeah, but here in Brazil most Vega 56 are expensive now and I would like a non used GPU.

[@GhostAcez]

That is not going to exist. Period. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but it's just won't until the 2070 MAYBE gets price cuts when the next generation comes out.

[@desmond3245]

Still, at $279 I don't see why one should get this over the 2060. Even if you don't care about DXR and DLSS, both cards have the same price/perf, which means the $70 difference is pure performance. When buying a new GPU you always want to get the strongest card at the best value so it can last longer before it gets replaced.

[@ShawFujikawa]

That’s a dumb thing to say, even if (for example) the 2080Ti had the same price/performance as the 2060 that doesn’t mean everyone should just buy the 2080Ti instead. People have budgets, you know.

[@desmond3245]

@@ShawFujikawa At $279 it's no where near "budget" you know. It's a mid-range card. $70 more is not deal breaking if your already paying around $300. For budget cards you should get the 570 and 580 instead. "even if (for example) the 2080Ti had the same price/performance" Now that's a dumb thing to say cause it's never going to happen and you just made that up for your own sake. Higher tier cards have never been the best values and those who bought them obviously care more about performance than getting most bang for the buck.

[@chinogambino9375]

@@ShawFujikawa The 2080ti has trash performance per dollar so it wouldn't make sense. Saddly we are paying the same as the 10 series for the performance, the 2060 is the same price and performance as the 1070. They've shuffled the chairs on deck, we are in the same spot as 3 years ago, except its like we have a 1090 and 1090ti now. It is best to buy the cards with the best performance per dollar with the most dollars you can afford at the time to avoid upgrades as long as possible. We are in a horrible market at the moment due to the crytpo fad fallout, the slowing of process improvements and innovation. I can't get a new card until Navi shows its hand later this year, I am not buying 2 and 3 year old designs from AMD or Nvidia unless its clear this will be the status quo for some years.

[@desmond3245]

@@chinogambino9375 I bought a 960 4 years ago and sold it for a 970 1 month later. It's 60% more expensive and 40% better in performance, but it was this huge performance boost that got me through the mining craze. If I kept the 960 I would have to buy the 1060 for $350 to stay at 1080p ultra as Pascal lasted unusually long.

[@felixtag5121]

even though i run still a GTX 1080 - i think with the recent pricedrop of the Vega 56 and it's realy wide overclocking options (bios-mod for instance) it is the better deal vs. the 1660ti.... as long as you don'T care about the power consumption....

[@xTheGothic13x]

Here in Portugal the 1660 ti (armor xs) is 305€ and the vega 56 (strix) is 325€, I mainly edit video on premiere and do some gaming, what's ur thoughts? Im really Inclined to the vega but I'm aware of the nVidia optimizations with Adobe, and I'm also going to upgrade to a 1440p 21:9 monitor. Thanks 😁

[@hahahalol870]

WTF How can you ever justify buying a rx 590. It nearly needs 100W more power!

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

meh I caved and ordered a 2060 a few days ago, glad I did as this card isn't what everybody hoped it would be and I paid 349 not a bad price for the performance and if you overclock it near 2070 perf for $150 less....RTX OFF of course!

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Not to mention IF Ray Tracing and/or DLSS does take off, we'll be able to take advantage. I do appreciate the, supposed, separate die dedicated to NvEnc. Makes me consider streaming.

[@MakoRuu]

I wonder if any AIB's will make a six pin version. I've been waiting to replace my 960.

[@akrizar4]

Still uncertain. Should I upgrade from 970 to this or 2060? Or should I wait one more generation. 1080p gaming

[@tenow]

they should have called it GTX2050 or GT2050. They had enough perfectly good naming conventions. 1660 is absurd

[@HelloItsJacob]

GTX 1160 Ti

[@-Kerstin]

The naming is so bs I don't even know what to say

[@vgamedude12]

The vega 56 got price dropped to below 300 in many places to combat this, much better card minus power consumption for that price.

[@jtland4842]

Harrison where?

[@vgamedude12]

@@jtland4842 It was on newegg for like 2 models I think, might be OOS now. I thought it would be more widespread, wait and see if more go on sale I guess.

[@wingracer1614]

@Jonny B That hasn't been a problem for a few years now. Just avoid Vega blower cards, those things are loud and hot.

[@wingracer1614]

@@MrMatthewb9876 You got to keep an eye out for a sale. I got my Red Dragon triple fan Vega 56 for 329 and that was a while ago. Prices are coming down even more. It runs cool and while I wouldn't call it quiet, it's not bad at all. Definitely better than my blower Vega 64 which sounds like a damn hair drier.

[@vgamedude12]

@Jonny B I have the opposite experience. Modern amd drivers are miles ahead of nvidias, I have used nvidia software on friends PCs and I dislike it.

[@ragingmonk6080]

I wouldn't recommend the reference Vega 56 but a Red Dragon or Sapphire Pulse, etc.... I have the Pulse and a simple undervolt and overclock in Radeon settings has this card boosting 1600+ MHz. Played Metro Exodus last night and average boost was 1611 MHz. FC5 average is about 1630 but does hit 1662 at times. No custom fan curve and temps are real good. Don't remember seeing it above 71c ever. I did not bios flash or power table mods. Used Radeon Settings only.

[@Genjuro77]

You can buy the Vega 56 Blower for 279€ or the Custom Sapphire Pulse for 309€, both including 3 top games (Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry 5 and The Division 2) right now at Mindfactory in Germany.

[@SumitShrivastava17]

This is going to be a killer sell for gaming laptops.

[@dufung3980]

Yeah and variants if they make them of the 16-- series, 1650? Lower power footprint.

[@dongurudebro4579]

Ok i just decided if I have to hear *1660ti* once more i have to kill myself! :D Does anyone wanna bother himself, counting how often he said it?

[@ausyenlowang1755]

no, it crossed my mind too

[@sirmonkey1985]

i thought about it and tried but i stopped after he surpassed 20 times.

[@lukatheslav]

It shall be done. Edit: and soo it is done. 74 times.

[@WitchVulgar]

Many Too many

[@nanoflower1]

LukaMasterz , thank you for your sacrifice and I hope you enjoy your stay in the mental hospital.

[@MazeFrame]

Would it be possible to divice OC and non-OC results for the cards in different charts? The way it currently is makes it a bit hard to read.

[@PiPArtemis]

Since I dont pick up new titles very often it looks like Im sticking with my 970 for now, Resident Evil 2 is making me aware of the cards age but it still maintains a steady 60fps on high with very minor adjustments though mostly I play DOTA2, WOW/FF14, and Civ (which isnt reliant on GPU power anyway) and on those it's holding its own very well. If I were running a high refresh rate monitor (like I'd prefer to be but they dont come cheap) then I could see this being a fantastic upgrade. Perhaps if I catch it on sale alongside a decent >60hz monitor

[@mj2068]

Steve - Master of gamers, Guru of tEch, pivotal bolt of the Nexus, Guardian Angel of consumers, Nerd in chief, style of the Outworld, best Burke ever walks on the surface of the planet... TL;DW...

[@WowzersNoWay]

should have called it the 2050 Ti

[@fedepede04]

I think that would be stupid because, It don't have the 20 series features, plus it would make it impossible for Nvidia to release a low cost of the 20 series.

[@wabachi]

@@fedepede04 the features are bound to RTX not 20 series.... it's a TU chip thus a 20 series...

[@KrakenGameReviews]

@@fedepede04 that's what gtx and rtx is for. 20 series should denominate the architecture, in this case turing, and then rtx/gtx denominates cuda/tensor cores. I think it should have been a 2050 though. Releasing a ti model without a base model is just horrific marketing.

[@chopcookies]

Only no1 would drop top dollar for a xx50 card, now its still a xx60 and the price is being compared to a 2060

[@brenaan_]

@@fedepede04 uhhhh 20 series is just the generation. Rtx denotes the new features lol

[@josephzellars4522]

would this be a good upgrade from the gtx 950?

[@ThePesident]

Pretty wild that they've tried to "keep it under wraps" all before release w/o prior advertising, and didn't voice too much against the leaks. Makes ya think.

[@chrisbullock6477]

Looks like the VEGA 56 is a easy pick now considering its new PRICING and 8GIGS of HBM Memory

[@dufung3980]

The same price, slightly higher performance on specific titles and a 60% higher heat/power foot print, how is that an easy choice. Fanboy detected.

[@joeallen7781]

Theres no new pricing, it was but a tactic to try and sabotage 1660 ti sales. Check AMD twitter, they already confirmed it was just a promo at newegg. So you pay far more than these 280$ and you enjoy double the power draw, forget 1, buy 3.

[@robotbeeptv4941]

@@dufung3980 vega 56 performs better in basically every game 10%ish on average and thats not including double digit gains from undervolting and overclocking which gives double digit gains (and makes it more efficient) not including the even bigger gains if you get lucky and get samsung memory and flash to a a vega 64 bios. Oh and the 3 free games as well. nvidia fanboy detected ignoring value.

[@robotbeeptv4941]

@@joeallen7781 vega 56 pulse literally cost £10 more than the 1660ti in the uk or a msi airboost blower for £250 which is still cheaper than a 1660ti and includes the 3 games

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

vega 56 pulls 300% more power than 1660 ti while performing 2% better on average. yeah, really easy pick...

[@TheSoldier718]

Grab the Vega 56 and hold for Navi.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

skip the vega 56 and hold for navi. unless you need a heater.

[@Snake2k00]

A review already 😱

[@jesus1021]

buying this brand new or a GTX 1070 TI used with at least 2 years left off warranty on eBay?

[@sneakie1649]

aight, 1680 when?

[@hwstar9416]

1880*

[@BombaJead]

A 1680 or 1880 (wtf these names) would be a non rtx 2080 and you already have that it's called the 1080ti. What you want is an 1880ti but don't expect it to be lower than $1000.

[@sneakie1649]

@@BombaJead except you cant buy a 1080ti anywhere

[@Ometecuhtli]

@@BombaJead 1080Ti is EOL

[@Puyols37]

I want a 1337

[@Devil-fd1ff]

"The sixteen sixty TI" - GN

[@roich11]

Off topic but, I've been wondering if the Ryzen 2700 could perform better in games with 2-4 cores disabled at higher clocks? I know AMD said there would be more overclocking potential with cores disabled.

[@imaniac8]

Could you also add the GTX 1070 to your benchmarks?

[@MeGBillG]

so ...can we expect GTX 1880 ti ?!

[@dufung3980]

@G Dante People who don't consider power and therein system thermals/stability annoy me, welcome to the list. You're talking 500 watts on a video with a 130watt card..

[@NimitzclassA]

Just in time to start the day thinking anout new hardware that i'm never going to buy...😁

[@SkeeterUK]

1660 ti 6gb zotac £269 vs 1070 8gb which is £269 g1 on amazon now? for 2560x1440p? Which would you buy or keep 780ti for bit longer?

[@aridhol22]

Hey Steve, why don't you include the 1070ti in the benchmarks anymore?

[@calebhearn1526]

TL;DR of GTX 1660Ti Reviews: "Yeah I mean it's pretty good."

[@DrearierSpider1]

Eh, if you can get a decent Vega 56 model for $280, I'd go for that. Especially if you plan on overclocking.

[@JocaGod]

@gamers nexus why didn't you test the gtx1070 and gtx1080 on Apex ?

[@JMUDoc]

I was holding out for this but managed to bag a used 1070 for £200 ($262). Looks like I made the right move.