Evidence for God, Part 2

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TrilliumUnitedChurch

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@janmango4692
@janmango4692 2 жыл бұрын
"I am a believer. I know my belief doesn't make any sense. But I feel good believing and being with other believers". Now, that would be an honest life view.
@dannyspitzer1267
@dannyspitzer1267 2 жыл бұрын
yep
@imwelshjesus
@imwelshjesus 2 жыл бұрын
So what, just keep your bleedin' mindless childhood intellectual abuse to yourself and not pass it on to the innocence.
@pup1008
@pup1008 2 жыл бұрын
@@imwelshjesus Innocent or ignorant?
@imwelshjesus
@imwelshjesus 2 жыл бұрын
@@pup1008 Totally innocent, but I take no pride in the fact as I am sure I could have done more to disrespect magic in my youth.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for your response to AronRa. :D
@Balstrome1
@Balstrome1 2 жыл бұрын
Be nice. Aron will beat him like a red haired step child.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Balstrome1 Shhh I want to see what happens. :D
@dannyspitzer1267
@dannyspitzer1267 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Got my popcorn ready
@xPumaFangx
@xPumaFangx 2 жыл бұрын
You both just made me laugh. I to want to see this moron get ripped apart. Edit: I did watch them get ripped apart. I do feel better.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@xPumaFangx it was wonderful. Hmm where is his response video? hmmm looks like he ignored the response to his video in full, why is that you think? :D
@reamde_goVegan
@reamde_goVegan 2 жыл бұрын
"Join Mark, a Christian who knows nothing about science, as he reviews key areas of scientific understanding in the early 19th century..." - I fixed your description. Suggestion: Go read a current book about science. Take a few courses at the university and at least try to understand what has happened in science in the last 100 years.
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no he can't find out what happened in science the last 100 years, that would ruin his wilful ignorance.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 2 жыл бұрын
Awwww he is spending all his time reading iron age myths be fair !
@dannyspitzer1267
@dannyspitzer1267 2 жыл бұрын
AronRa just mopped the floor with your "arguments", sir
@pelgrim8640
@pelgrim8640 2 жыл бұрын
Another gem of ignorance: "statistically speaking there shouldn't be a single planet in the universe that supports life". What statistics exactly did you use? And how did you determine how many planets exist in the observable universe (ignoring the possible planets beyond the observable)?
@joestacey6185
@joestacey6185 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I would be interested in watching your response to Aron Ra's rebuttal and correction of your video. Thank you.
@williammueller6639
@williammueller6639 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding first cause, I'm not seeing the difference between the nonreligious saying "The Universe always existed and therefore needs no cause" and the religious saying "God always existed and therefore needs no cause". Can you clarify this for me? If the Universe needed a cause, which you declare to be God, then why doesn't God need a cause? It just seems like a modernization of the old "Turtles all the way down" argument.
@arminius416
@arminius416 2 жыл бұрын
it is just disrespectfull to everyone to spread so many desinformations in one video. literally every "we dont know" you talked about is a simple "you dont know" because you completly ignore the fact that science actually have answers to those questions
@dannyspitzer1267
@dannyspitzer1267 2 жыл бұрын
Basically the arguments from ignorance as well as incredulity going on with Pastor Mark, and all theists
@bladerunner3314
@bladerunner3314 2 жыл бұрын
I hope next time you need a doctor, you just pray instead of seeing a physician.
@TheAngryAtheist
@TheAngryAtheist 2 жыл бұрын
"As we begin, i am going start this video by using the word 'empirical' but actually mean 'not empirical' when i say that. These are the words that i am going to use to convince you that my god exists. Lets go chew glass now nar nar nar nar."
@thomasb7464
@thomasb7464 2 жыл бұрын
6:40 "We know better today what is necessary for a new species to arise...": Yes we DO know. And by what methodology do we know that? We know that because of the scientific method, applied to the field of biology. And what scientific theory is one of the fundamental theories and the basis of modern biology? The Theory of Evolution.
@chrislyne377
@chrislyne377 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the worst apologist videos I've seen in a long time. Literally laughed out loud several times at the ineptitudes misunderstandings, basic lack of knowledge and outright untruths. Utterly pitiful
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
Not proof. Just arguments. Time to cover this video I suppose.
@AronRa
@AronRa 2 жыл бұрын
I should. This guy obviously has no idea what he's talking about. Just question-begging arguments from ignorance and incredulity, and he's wrong on everything he says we don't have.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@AronRa one wonders if its just ignorance, or if its willful blindness to facts regarding biological evolution, abiogenesis, and basic cosmology.
@AronRa
@AronRa 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeconvertedMan The ignorance itself is a product of the blindness, which is willful.
@FishHeadSalad
@FishHeadSalad 2 жыл бұрын
@@AronRa Or as I call it... Wishful thinking, gullibility, and intentional ignorance. Also known as lying for Jesus in order to spread the truth of Jesus.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 2 жыл бұрын
More statements without any basis of truth
@seaglider844
@seaglider844 2 жыл бұрын
Its really amazing to see this kind of content put up for all to see. Its either that Mark has only been exposed to old debunked apologist material or he knows his target audience won't see his arguments get so easily taken apart. I'm truly curious as to what he thinks?
@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564
@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564 2 жыл бұрын
All top-down origin scenarios (gods or the like first) necessarily include the infinite regression issue. It cannot be defined away without engaging a special pleading fallacy. This means that there can be no 'intelligent first cause', no 'supreme being', no 'omni-everything uncaused deity'. Bottom-up origin scenarios (quantum fields or something similar first) can work because quantum theory, supported by innumerable objective empirical experiments, has shown that there are hard limits to how small and simple things can be. All of our verified objective empirical evidence supports a cosmos that is built from the bottom up, none of it supports a cosmos built from the top down. Magic isn't objectively real.
@BobSmith-ew5oi
@BobSmith-ew5oi 2 жыл бұрын
Only if forget all morals to worship an evil being who done nothing to help humanity.Should he really care about our welfare would not of created a torture place for all his loving creation who refuses to bow and give him praise not deserve.like the school bully if not do as say will punish you eternally.Sure thats an all good being to use as an example.
@pelgrim8640
@pelgrim8640 2 жыл бұрын
Trillum United Church should really first go and check up on what science currently says before making such video's...
@Mike_Regan
@Mike_Regan 2 жыл бұрын
"Belief" in god certainly _is_ plausible. And more than just likely. The existance of churches an self-deluded folks like Mark here shows that. Belief is not evidence.
@vladd415
@vladd415 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me, sir, what are you? Deceived, or, a deceiver? Or maybe both?
@Z4r4sz
@Z4r4sz 2 жыл бұрын
Invoking darwin for his alledged lack of explainations is as dumb as invoking the wright brothers to make an argument against modern aerodynamics and planes.
@RevQuads
@RevQuads 2 жыл бұрын
We can believe anything we want. But believing does not make anything true.
@EugeneParallax
@EugeneParallax 2 жыл бұрын
- Necessary cause even if assumed to be such cannot in turn be asserted to be intelligent. Using the finite regress principle, there has to be an uncaused original entity. Given that the observable universe appear to follow a process of gradual and increasingly sporadic growth of complexity, that original entity is overwhelmingly more likely to be an ultimate and universal simplicity (such as primordial substance or state), and not an ultimate, superordinate, intelligent being. - The universe is not fine-tuned at all. All the properties of the universe are emergent, meaning that it is sandbox in which the variety of physical entities emerge via gravitational and energetic interactions, and in which the weaker unstable entities dissolve and scatter to feed the formation of the stable entities. These remaining stable entities then produce new laws and constants via their own interactions. Ultimately, all laws and constants brach out of the foundational values, - the speed of light and the gravitational constant - which in turn can be the mirror-image products of the same root potential of the primordial state; One represented by a vector, another represented as a scalar. - Exploring the planetary conditions for the existence of life is meaningless, and bringing up more such conditions into analysis simply narrows the life being estimated closer to the form of life we're familiar with. Some form of life can exist almost anywhere based on what adaptations are present in its nature. Just because out planet happened to being able to support life does not make it in any way special except for our own egos, given the astonishing variety of conditions that the universe can create on the infinite worlds spread throughout itself. - Abiogenesis is pretty much proven possible and plausible, and its a matter of further research to figure out the conditions for its occurence on Earth. The hallmark of intelligent design is efficiency (i.e. functional simplicity), not complexity. Complexity is a hallmark of nature, where many features of the entity may appear excessive, redundant, lacking or even vestigial. An intelligent designer today can take any of the biological systems and find ways to improve it in various ways, which as a whole discards the idea of intelligent design of life. Life appears to follow more of a procedural generation algorithm, which in terms of biological science is analogous to mutation and natural selection. - Darwin have explained the origin of species. All of your claims about missing links are plain baseless assertions coming from ignorance about the developments of science. Religion is a system of stagnation, and humanity cannot progress if it gets stuck in the belief systems of its ancient founders. It blinded you to the new information and inquiry, thus you present the same old arguments of the same apologists for the same religious doctrine, and unwilling to accept the fact, that all these arguments have been debunked and refuted at least a decade ago.
@imwelshjesus
@imwelshjesus 2 жыл бұрын
Trivial inane lies and determined ignorance all combined in one sweet grift for any pasty pastor.
@MisterItchy
@MisterItchy 2 жыл бұрын
Just say that you believe God did it and leave it at that. You do not have, and can not have, proof for anything you believe. If faith isn't enough for you, ask yourself why it isn't.
@dodo1opps
@dodo1opps 2 жыл бұрын
Opinion...Opinion...opinion..
@pup1008
@pup1008 2 жыл бұрын
One way transmission from this guy, he talks & others have to listen! No acknowledgement or response to people who have questions.... Predictable & sad. Ranting is easy, backing it all up appears to be very hard!
@pup1008
@pup1008 2 жыл бұрын
Well.... That went well then! 😁
@PsyDin_
@PsyDin_ 2 жыл бұрын
lol. lmao, even.
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