Evolution 2006: Daigo vs. Alex Valle

Hyper Street Fighter Anniversary Edition
Alex Valle defeats Daigo Umehara in the Loser Bracket semifinals (?).
Evolution 2006 HSF:AE Final Standings:
1) Alex Wolfe (CE Dictator & ST Dhalsim)
2) Jason Nelson (CE Dictator & ST Dictator)
3) Tokido (CE Dictator)
4) Alex Valle (CE Ryu, CE Sagat, CE Dictator, ST Ryu)
5) Daigo Umehara (ST Ryu, CE Ryu, CE Guile)
5) Graham Wolfe (ST Boxer, CE Claw)
7) John Choi (CE Ryu, ST Ryu)
7) Afrolegends (ST Boxer)

[@3threethreethree3]

2:23 “Daigo with a rare mistake” Obviously these commentators are not on the same level as the players but that was not a mistake. Daigo couldn’t afford to take any chip damage so he used the DP invincibility frames to beat whatever Valle was gonna dish out. This was actually a very smart play by Daigo.

[@kevinvigil5867]

@Umit Yasar Akturk and after 5 months still no word for his wrong comment 😂😂😂

[@vallox6430]

It wasn't a mistake, it was a great idea to throw out an Anti-Air even if it was random to some people! The fact that Daigo was at Chip Damage the Shoryuken was a great decision incase he caught Alex Valle on a Jump-In, or hit one of his Sagat's long ranging Normals, it could've gotten him a Knockdown & a favorable position to still win the Fight!Invincible DP or not! The only thing it wasn't was a mistake! ✌🏼

[@pb879]

@@vallox6430 It was a mistake, these two know each other's playstyle. Alex and Daigo go back and forth winning against each other. That year Alex beat Daigo in 3rd strike, and CvS2. Alex is smart enough not to jump in. Do you have this Japanese hero worship where you think they are only the best? Dude, give Alex some respect. In 2000 Alex was the only one to beat 4 out of the 5 ST gods of Japan at the time using Japanese sticks which the Americans were not used to using.

[@vallox6430]

@@pb879 It wasn't a mistake, Alex Valle is actually one of my all-time favorites who I have the upmost respect for, I was simply implying that the "random" Uppercut was actually thought out because Daigo was at Chip to get taken out, especially against Old Sagat who is notoriously broken, the only mistake here would've been to just stand there & get hit, getting KO'd. So yeah why not go for an Uppercut & get a hit/Knockdown + Oki?..... but thanks for the History lesson though................................

[@overnightdelivery]

I thought it was pretty clear Daigo just threw out the random DP hoping to catch Sagat doing a fireball. Any block or damage taken at that point was a KO.

[@Pandaman64]

I love how sirlin just stops talking, like he's embarrased to be announcing with this guy.

[@strikerk]

Announcers showed little professionalism with that insult and their demeanor. This isn't the first time the announcers have verbally shown their preference for one side over the other. This happened a lot with Wong and Choi. Mr. Wizard needs to find some more skilled announcers, at least some that know how to celebrate the victories and losses of champions regardless of who they are or where they come from.

[@cheesesteakphilly]

I agree. Just let James Chen and Yipes commentate everything!

[@BoozertheArtist]

cheesesteakphilly replying to nine year old comment

[@druha10304]

BOOM TETRIS FOR VALLE

[@StreetFighter2010]

This was before the age of political correctness and crybabies. Nowadays announcers are little granny nannies.

[@strikerk]

@@StreetFighter2010 What you call politically correct, has a name. It's called integrity. Apparently, what you call crying, I call class.

[@starman3923]

Damn, still a classic to this day.

[@Anthony-gc7el]

Gotta love that it is the PS2 version

[@nastynas9000]

These are two good matches. Two of the best Street Fighter players in the world going at it. Some good speech from the commentators.

[@AcidGlow]

0:31 the crowd goes "ooooohhhh:" at the damage

[@via_embre]

how does the number not turn blue

[@NURCU]

Capcom is shit

[@NURCU]

Shit damage

[@caseyj789456]

2021 and still watch it! A gigantic pressure!

[@kevinmcclelland483]

ruu and saggit

[@black_caty]

@kmden Rt Nope, it pronounced ree-you

[@DreamerGalaxius]

"Daigo is out of there. No money for you buddy"

[@BummySheep]

It's nice to know that after how many years, sagat is still over powered even in street fighter 4

[@FLOPBOYA]

man I could watch these 2 play all day

[@skunkface_]

That "annoying" guy is Chris Li. He gives out the medals for Top 8 at Evo, and he's also the guy who said "Let's go Justin"

[@shoryuken75]

great matches, top players, amazing level of skill.

[@seed883]

Great matches by two excellent players.

[@cyberdelicxp9125]

So dope...it's even a SF Lore battle

[@gipson123]

awesome to watch!

[@Pandabearmadness]

There is something special about fireball battles for me. I love combos but fireball fight i love allot. I wonder how many hadoken daigo has thrown i bet its in the millions

[@tekknking]

Can someone explain to me the different sagats and stuff? Im super confused. After playing SF 2 i have always noticed tht Sagats moves are super powerful compared to everyone else so why wont more people use him? Like the announcer said, one kick could easily do 30 percent damage so why not jus everyone pick him?

[@sabishiihito]

Hyper SF2 allowed you to pick every SF2 version of a character, in this case Valle is using SF2' Champion Edition Sagat. As you noted he does massive damage and has very fast Tiger shots, not only the speed of the fireball but also how fast he throws it and recovers. Not much of a drawback but note that every version of Sagat gets countered by Dhalsim, and some people just don't like the character I guess.

[@MOB712]

Using Sagat's lethal knee to avoid hadokens and counter with that uppercut is beast Get hit with to many of those and its over

[@TheTaintedPariah]

This is the 2nd video with Daigo that the commentators are showing some serious bias towards the other player in there commentating. Fair and balanced ppl.

[@KangDo]

When you've been playing in arcades where it's loud, it's crowded, it's full of shady people and you perform in tournaments with tons of people screaming in your face, this is hardly something that will bother you.

[@shoryuken75]

great matches, great players

[@Bockatadi]

that was so stressful, and i wasnt even playing!

[@shinjig]

@Snrub08 frames in the way I stated it is the timing of something. 1 frame is 1/60th of a second. so to say that you must execute a move in 6 frames would be to say that you need to execute the move completely in 1/10th of a second. compared to the newer games where your given 15 frames per input, so f, d, df+p would be 45 frames or 3/4th of a second.

[@JJOR64]

That video never gets old.

[@Lilcousinbruva323]

It sure doesn't. I don't know why i am replying to a comment from 11 years ago this guy probably forgot his password.

[@JJOR64]

@@Lilcousinbruva323 I'm still here!

[@Lilcousinbruva323]

@@JJOR64 Woah after all this time? damn

[@1ButtonDash]

man I miss SF2 stage music themes, wish some of them played during SF4 matches

[@pastorofmuppets9346]

these were the days

[@darkdill]

Even if Daigo lost, he put up a helluva fight.

[@sabishiihito]

One of the reasons you didn't see SSF2 Sagat much in this game was they messed up his Grand Tiger shot recovery in the original PS2 release. It was only 37 frames originally but in HSF2 for some reason it was increased to 45 frames.

[@stolensentience]

Maybe.... because... he was so... broken...?

[@pb879]

@@stolensentience there was a lot brokenness in older games, but the OG adapted and found ways around them. Guys like you cry too much. Were you mad your favorite Japanese player lost? You poor man, you.

[@stolensentience]

@@pb879 are you mad your favorite video game character has 8 more frames on his cheap move? You poor man, you. And frankly, I could care less either way. I was just offering an explanation since OP seemed distraught at an obvious (to me) thing.

[@pb879]

@@stolensentience I use guile, and I was happy to get wrecked by Tomo's Ryu and his Guile at WFC. I never cried about it, I tried my hardest to adapt, and get better. "OP" or not. Go play SFV. That game is bare bones for people that cry about a character being "OP".

[@stolensentience]

@@pb879 lmao sfv is full of op shit tf you talkin about

[@PaulHindt]

"Roo launches the super bomb!" LOL :D

[@Pandaman64]

In the match before this one, daigo actually MADE one of those combacks vs afrolegends. Look up the match, it's pretty wild.

[@SELG88]

THANX

[@nastynas9000]

Two of the best going at it.

[@itachiuchiha692]

Yep. Daigo in this throws fireballs because if Sagat gets too close, he'll punish him. Daigo's using his fireballs to stay safe and look for an opening.

[@Murdoku]

this is awesome! gg valle

[@cunc3040]

awesome daigo and valle, cant pick who i like more

[@Qnzdipset1]

roo's got the fireball

[@deniskreynin]

Qnzdipset1 sagit better watch out

[@XtremePower16]

That what makes it's exciting.

[@Mick-hp4yg]

The commentary sure was more toned down back then. I dig it.

[@shinjig]

wow you got me there.

[@kamikazeslammer]

Melee combos are among the most fun combos to watch....

[@PBoDyCampaign]

I love his sagat!! its not like the campy sagats who shoot tigers all day. I love how he uses the tiger knee to get in close!!! im learning =]

[@bloodfurypk666]

this is gold

[@Resetable]

XD I always forget how OP sagat was in this game.

[@pb879]

No, you forgot or didn't know Alex is just as good as daigo. The same could be said about John Choi. They go back and forth winning and losing to each other. Were you mad your favorite Japanese player lost? You poor guy, you.

[@Resetable]

@@pb879 I'm a little amazed you felt so strongly about responding to a 7-year-old comment. I hope you feel extra validated knowing that I, having been 11 years old when I initially made that comment, and having only played street fighter 3 times before jumping onto KZbin, have been thoroughly put in my place and won't think about commenting so ignorantly ever again.

[@pb879]

@@Resetable I see. I still feel great.

[@Resetable]

@@pb879 Sure wouldn't want you to lose any sleep over it.

[@x-Abraham-x2]

@@Resetable My man you didn't have to respond to him but gg haha

[@Quake2815]

@FfantasyF No. got him mixed up with Dasrik somehow?

[@roggy12345]

no it was at evo which is a world wide competition where everyone around the world competes, also daigo. He also won tournaments around the world in mexico,canada,australia and some others

[@i2k]

i want to see more of alex and daigo go head to head

[@g1370]

Won't be long until "Roo's got the fireball; Sagat's gonna have to be careful" becomes the new "Do a barrel roll."

[@Pakalolofree]

Wow, I've never seen Daigo loses...

[@FearCarlos]

@ZZLe4Ni agreed,they do the fireballs as strategy n to find an opening on their opponents or there as bait for their next move as seen with the sagat player.

[@dmasudokken]

I see CE Ryu was used by a few people in this tournament, so which advantages does CE Ryu have over HF Ryu?

[@rocknflip66]

alex put the wall pressure game, but daigo took it like a true champ. Good ass game for these two

[@3DarkTemplar]

its funny how the music seems to change when alex did the 2 tiger uppercuts in the first round, and every one like WOOOO

[@djshefu]

Holy shit that Tiger Uppercut is beast for SF2'/SF2CE Sagat!

[@ShapeDoppelganger]

Sagat is so fast, that when he would try to jump foward, he would eat anoter life sucking tiger uppercut. Sagat is monster on that game, toppest tier ever.

[@KonvictSaiyan]

1:24 Daigo uses the Tatsumaki to get over Sagat very smart skill. Shows now Daigo knows his game of HSSF2T

[@SpyGuy91]

Cool story, bro.

[@RadiantSilvergun3]

"And Daigo's out of there. No money for you buddy. " hehe good match. Well played Alex.

[@symmetryx]

yeah, I'm also still searching for the rushdown he called.

[@nastynas9000]

Daigo loves the super bar, on every street fighter game.

[@blacklite911]

Was Sagat banned during the Champion edition days?

[@MrUserpick48]

i LOVE this matchup more so than any other sf matchup. super t ryu with super vs o sag. So fucking good on my skin mmmmmmm

[@batatarugal]

Chris McClellan i do not forget this match two every year i watch this

[@kJf1245]

@lockeezlulz who is the loud one anyway is that seth?

[@shinkibigami9]

good ol OG Sagat. That tiger speed and recovery in Anniversary is ridiculous haha.

[@pb879]

It's not OLD SAGAT!!! It is CE Sagat. Stop crying!

[@shinkibigami9]

@@pb879 lmao 11 years ago. We know what it is sir. No one is crying it was hilarious.

[@POWAHOUSEVOS]

Damn that tiger shot pressure!

[@shoaibhassan4484]

Great display

[@freckleburger]

Anyone notice Daigo always does best at a sliver of health?

[@Nifterific]

@soul44in so if its an athletic activity, but video games arent a sport, where does that leave competitive DDR?

[@Archedgar]

"Alex Valle Technique" = legend status. Having a technique named after him is something Daigo has yet to achieve.

[@jacobr4558]

Actually Umeshoryu is a thing. How many times has Alex beaten Daigo? I'm pretty sure it's 0.

[@pb879]

@@jacobr4558 Alex has beaten many times. In fact that year he beat daigo at 3rd strike and CvS2. And has beaten many other times as well. Learn your history. Sorry you Japanese worship hero lost to a better player.

[@chisinjong]

do u have the finals video?

[@INeedHerPomPomJuice]

That's what I told them. It's not considered a mistake if the other person flinchs at the last second. Pure luck saved him :/ It's not considered a mistake.

[@scenario1]

"you cant afford to get hit by that uppercut thats 30 to 40% everytime" lmfao

[@l750z_6]

lol its like 15

[@IB_E_Y_O_N_DI]

@@l750z_6 the guy was over exxagerating

[@turdferguson2]

totally...i mean pretty much the only time you see these guys try huge combos on each other is when they dizzy somebody. it's part of why I love world warrior through hyper fighting so much. much more emphasis on strategy rather than child-pleasing, seizure-inducing 50 hit bullshit combos

[@Irennicus]

The game they're playing is Street Fighter Anniversary Edition. That's basically an attempt to culminate all of the characters and their versions throughout history. For example, World Warriors Guile is very much a different character from Super Turbo Guile. One of the main differences being that Super Turbo Guile has access to a super. O. Sagat refers to "Old Sagat"

[@solidsnakratos]

Is the world Champion of SF Alpha 3, One Of the Best players of SF III 3rd Strike worldwide, and now has about 10, 000 wins in SF4.

[@dantetokcock]

@Dennispr0 yah... sad after a decade plus i still do not know hadouken - 波動拳, meaning wave motion fist shoryuken - 昇龍拳, meaning rising dragon fist tatsumaki senpukyaku - 竜巻旋風脚, meaning tornado kick =)

[@PhilomathBret]

@glennxi How do you know how it's pronounced?

[@Scuddi]

Pretty sure that is also because in Japan most tournaments are you pick one character and stick with it while here you can change. So he is just more comfortable sticking with Ryu and adapting.

[@paco2244]

@FIX but it takes month play at a descent level. On hd it took me 3 or 4 since most players on there are hardcore

[@JosephI]

why does it say daigo using st ryu, ce ryu, ce guile? all i see is st ryu

[@shiken]

HAHAH i love the announcer in the end "daigo is out of there! no money for you, buddy. LOL"

[@parabellum9x19]

Dave Sirlin is doing the commentary, listing the games that Daigo/Valle have previously become famous for.

[@SiriusPP]

@The21smax and how else are u hoping to damage that sagat =/

[@dantetokcock]

i grow up listening to this classic voices... ardooogen, tige, orrryugen, taktaitekpuruken, arnekboom =D

[@kwizzeh]

This is straight up old school. There is no spiffy system like Parry or Focus to absorb to build meter. There are two ways to fight in a fireball war. Fire back or avoid it, there is no other way.

[@tanyuj]

@synonix WOW, good ears, it does sound like that.

[@DominionDee]

I like the part where Sagat goes "Tiger!"

[@TheBlueMoosh]

@Engravings How is SF2 more technical than SF4? I fully understand all that is going on here in this match, and it is a far simpler game than 4.

[@criticalking]

sick match

[@onreload]

oh, they are. all iterations of SF2 are about being what a lot of people call "cheap", since projectile recovery time is so short... but ST Ryu is a very good ST character.

[@Evilj82]

@synonix How in the hell did you hear DSP in this? LOL

[@MKKTeam]

Some ppl say that it was because they used console ports instead of the arcade OCB.

[@Irennicus]

Daigo has been a world-class player since...2000? He is absolutely one of the best players in the world.

[@pb879]

Since 1998 actually. And Alex is one of the best in the world too. Alex isn't free, and neither is John Choi.

[@YounGGuns425]

My comp doesnt have sound =( Whatd he say?

[@officegossip]

i wish hd remix had anniversary edition character selection, like championship edition sagat.

[@ItachiRyu]

Yeah but did you see the second part of that video? where he came back dominated that guy?

[@HoundEire]

Wat is O.Sagat?? Can you use these in HD Remix?

[@sonicspeediscrazy]

Omg too gud (good)

[@AcidGlow]

cool