Ex-Cult Members Explain How They Survived KwaSizabantu / Wide Awake Podcast EP. 12

[@wideawakepodcast]

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[@nolanaug]

The audio is out of sync.

[@wideawakepodcast]

@@nolanaug at what point? I’ve checked and it’s fine on my side?

[@longjohnsonshagwell3377]

@@nolanaug where lmao

[@nolanaug]

It seems fine now.

[@jp8649]

Celimpilo is SO funny and charismatic. I adore her. She seems like the kind of person who immediately makes you feel that you've found a new friend when you meet them.

[@erikabornman_author]

“Josh for president!” That was Celimpilo after we just watched this episode together. Thank you Josh for letting us tell our stories - freely so. You’re the best! From Celimpilo and Erika

[@sedil3556]

Is it possible for me to possibly get the report you mentioned?

[@siphonsele1333]

Hi Erika, how can I get your book?

[@sunbirdmom]

I bought your book for our book club, Erika. I could not put it down. I refuse to buy aquelle water. I'm just wondering about woolies veggies... I watched Wild wild country on Netflix - all the cults have the same kind of profile. I'm just amazed that people still get sucked into it. And I cry for the kids. Thanks for fighting against this giant. You're brave xx

[@erikabornman_author]

@@sunbirdmom Thank you so much, for this comment! Feel free to DM me on Instagram or Twitter - I love chatting to book clubs if yours is keen. Big hug!

[@erikabornman_author]

@@sedil3556 Hi, please DM me on Twitter or Instagram? Otherwise, happy to send to Josh to send to you.

[@simsnyandeni3828]

A few times my mom wanted to take us to kwasizaBantu when we were kids and my dad would absolutely lose his mind about it because thought religious people were some of the most evil people on earth. I'm so grateful my dad is a heathen. I feel for these ladies

[@ceceliakirchner970]

I thank your dad for that up in heaven. Be blessed 🙌

[@zakheledhlamini6457]

S/o to your dad it's not easy being an atheist/heathen in south Africa

[@mamshengutshabalala6801]

We went there each and every June and December holidays. As a child, I could easily pick up funny vibes...

[@jckruger5112]

Stayed there myself for 5.5 years what they saying is true.

[@erikabornman_author]

Thank you, every person who shares that helps! I’m glad you got out. Sending hugs!

[@ht5727]

Ahem... Nope

[@Burning.Arrows]

These two ladies are beautiful souls.

[@belindajoubert1065]

I can't believe that no one has investigated and shut this place down. Strongs to you two beautiful woman! And Strongs to all who suffered under these horrible people. Thank you for helping getting the truth out there Josh.

[@cr5162]

Wish that Carte Blanche would expose this place.. thanks Josh for airing this story & I hope that these lovely ladies gets their justice.

[@ambertoerien1284]

Love the matching dresses the ladies are wearing

[@clairehodgson621]

But also a bit cultlike, or is that just me?

[@m.lefaye]

I commend these eloquent and powerful women. It is so important to have both perspectives. I live in North America and globally Colonisers and Politics constantly try to divide us. Together we can overcome and their is strength when sharing our personal experiences and being vulnerable. We cannot heal what we hide. Thanks for sharing your stories and podcast for being a neutral space for discussion of hard facts in all places.

[@Mthwakazi04]

This is so sad, thank you so much Josh for this awakening interview. Strongs to the ladies, keep spreading the word to help the next person.

[@wideawakepodcast]

It's my pleasure. I'm really happy that you enjoyed this episode! I was awake until 3am this morning editing! 😂❤

[@deidre2321]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thank you to the ladies and Josh. I wish I can burn down that place but oh well. I love the relationship they have. True friendship🤩🥰👍

[@wideawakepodcast]

They are honestly the best!! 😍

[@printcolors2536]

😂😂😂😂

[@bonniem5963]

This is absolutely amazing Josh, please continue telling these stories

[@MichaeleKukard]

Celimpilo should write her book. Please.

[@Noelsaboutit]

this still happening in 2022, what more ?

[@andiballa4643]

My story from KSB in Romania is different yet so real as their stories. I appreciate them for being able to step back and LIVE their own lives as I know it's not easy to go in the big world and pretend nothing has happened. Much love ❤❤❤❤

[@bellebelle7868]

Josh is so adorable and his interview questions are always on point

[@angelmaphumulo5850]

To think i almost went to a boarding school there😫

[@sulezinyembezigqeba]

Why am I only coming across this now 😭❤️

[@charmainepriestman915]

Both you ladies are eloquent and brave indeed!

[@seamus9750]

And the Cults products continue to be sold in all supermarkets...WHY??.. These 2 ladies have really blossomed after such a kak start in life.

[@wideawakepodcast]

I agree and they are really amazing ladies!!

[@ht5727]

Josh, I am really sorry to say this and I don't expect you to take my word for it but you've been taken for a ride. Go look up Noseweek "how news 24 got it wrong". Even better go see KSB for yourself. Proverbs 18:17 (ESV) The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. Erika has been waging her own mission of malice and deceit against KSB.

[@esauselomane6403]

Strong woman Celimpilo!!!!!!!!!

[@mbongiseninkosi8078]

Yo... Such a place exists?!

[@unapaltoglou2657]

A story always has 2 sides, why don't you find out the other side of the story!

[@hopeworldenthusiast1114]

Notification squad 🔥💪🏾

[@wideawakepodcast]

That's what I like to see! 😂

[@mrn4698]

Keep strong ladies, I believe everything you guys said about that place. I know someone whose very close to me who suffered a lot because of that place. The day of its demise is coming soon!

[@sly9812]

Police really gotta shut down these fucked up places🤦‍♂️

[@wideawakepodcast]

I think the police need to be investigated for not doing anything! 😂

[@sly9812]

@@wideawakepodcast true 😂

[@masithulemkhosana2773]

This is very painful. I really feel for the people who have been abused in that place of kwasizabantu.

[@llewellynolifant1044]

This reminds me of Word Mission Society Church Of God “WMSCOG”

[@Eldahtaleh18]

Nice similar dresses

[@jenna2468]

All they say is true. I left that place as well. And the lust topic... I confessed as well without actually knowing what lust was. 😅

[@taariquewilliams]

I absolutely love your work! 🙂

[@khwezilokusankomo3113]

“Kwabayi’sizabona”-Where they help themselves

[@a.gilmour768]

This is shocking. I visited kwaziabantu as a foreign visitor from the uk for a week in 1990 and was very impressed by what i saw and experienced there. Although some of the white people who lived there spoke of the authoritarian nature of the place and how any questioning of those in charge weren't accepted. I take it that now KSB dont want to apologise for the harm they have done because it would mean offering compensation to many individuals. So sad to hear of how these and other victims have been shunned by a Christian organisation.

[@kaydenpat]

Can this cult be sued for the mental and physical harm it has done to these women and others they have injured? Those who run these cults should be held accountable for the damage they have caused - especially to children who didn’t choose to be members.

[@pleasant1425]

This place is still there, their website is so nice and deceptive. So sorry ladies for what you have gone through

[@kaydenpat]

They have a KZbin channel as well. Shameful.

[@spykerhond7008]

they would have had a hard time with me . Id be kicked out of that cult within days.

[@skobodabaws8946]

Josh must come to podcast n chill to speak about this, it needs to be heard in a bigger platform

[@wideawakepodcast]

I would love to!! 🙌🏻

[@pietjansevanrensburg5230]

I know that many children who grew up at KSB are now atheists. How tragic... I can only surmise that they mistook the "god" of KSB for the true, living God.

[@nozingqizengwehealingcentr9387]

celimpilo needs a lot of theraphy

[@carolineshidolo8048]

This two ladies are funny such good friends 🤣

[@memeguyTM]

Your content is awesome man. Keep it up

[@bryanahmarais1513]

the matching dresses

[@erikabornman_author]

They’re Monde Le Grand - she’s fabulous!

[@zamanzimande6566]

I used to enjoy the trip going there I even got certificate from participating in one their Biblical Quizzes. To think I deemed Kwasizabantu to be the most organized and very "educational" place, I won't lie if I were to be given an opportunity back then I would have gone there. I'm glad the ladies came out alive and able to tell their story. Now I know

[@tshiamoshalla1277]

Inspirational story 🧩

[@nosisamtshali9874]

How can I get her book

[@j.gonsalves]

I love these two ahha! They remind me of the some of the nice 'aunties' that raised me in the JW Org.

[@truthseeker5216]

Hmmmmm...... Biblically there's LOTS wrong here - on both sides. It also sounds like if they were both Christians at one stage they deffinately aren't any more, one can clearly hear that by the way they speak, but there's no doubt, kwasisabantu is not a good place, where there's smoke there's fire, and I would not encourage ANYONE to go there, just by what I, and others have experienced.

[@siphonsele1333]

Celimpilo literally said she is christian at the beginning of the podcast.

[@truthseeker5216]

@@siphonsele1333 Christians don't use the f word. There are millions of people on this planet that call themselves Christians......the way she was touching her also makes one think......?

[@wilhelmmogane]

These Conselors were they White or Black or both ?

[@ntshoveloshibambu2159]

Mpilo seems to be still taken by this horrific experience. Like who can raise anyone from the dead.

[@londonlifeexplorer3915]

15:56 16:15 16:54 19:58 20:21 30:52 31:52

[@vonickles5033]

Go see them josh and take footage

[@ht5727]

Good idea. Maybe the real truth will then come out. KSB is a good place.

[@nozingqizengwehealingcentr9387]

human Rights commission yhoooo yhooooo

[@nilabeth0-]

Wow

[@ht5727]

This is not the KSB I know. Sorry Josh, but I think you've been taken for a ride. Always better to see for yourself before you accept a one sided story as damning. Proverbs 18 : 17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. Would suggest you look at nose weeks 5 episodes on how news 24 got it wrong, and go see KSB for yourself.

[@sicelomvdmedia7705]

Well said

[@ayandamkhize9971]

I went to a catholic boarding and I can easily believe the story of being beaten 70 times.

[@Nakachuua]

I think Celi is still somewhat brainwashed coz she still believes that Erlo Stegen really raised someone from death.. Really? Interesting interview btw

[@ianhinrichsendrummer2113]

Anyone who calls themselves a christian and can use the F word the way she does, will raise some serious concerns as to the validity of their conversion. That was shocking and disgusting - people this is not what true Christianity is about, nobody who has had a true conversion experience could ever speak like that, the way it was done, and the way the other lady laughed about it, therefore I would tread warily about what you believe about what these two have to say. I have no doubts at all that kwasisabantu is not a good place, in fact I've had conversations with someone who was there for a long time, and supports them no matter what, but I picked up cult like tendencies from him, but we need to be wise as to who we listen to.

[@mamma.jsayers]

Haibo Ian, (True) Christians, and probably some you and I know swear a whole lot more, so do they do a whole lot more “Un-Christian” stuff than swear my dear. Also, Romans 3 says We have ALL sinned and fall short, so a little swearing doesnt nake one Un-Christian, and 2nd Cor 10 says we are not perfect, but we have to live IN this world but not be OF this world

[@ianhinrichsendrummer2113]

@@mamma.jsayers God is very clear about not letting filthy language come out of our mouths. So because we aren't perfect that gives us the freedom to commit adultery too? So where do you draw the line?

[@gameovr17]

The word fuck didn't exist when the bible was written

[@Thezaza1101]

Christianity isn't even real. God is made up. Get off your high moral ground

[@ianhinrichsendrummer2113]

@@Thezaza1101 No need to get rude. This is a public platform where people are free to express their heartfelt views - what *you* need to do, is learn to respect other people's views without prejudice or being judgemental. Everything i said was the truth and was not being rude or judgmental. If you know the Holy Scriptures, you would know that it's our duty as Christians to expose the works of darkness posing as light. If you haven't ever given God a chance, then how can you say it's not real? When you learn to drive a car don't you have to study the manual? If you want to pass an exam don't you have to study the manual? How can you say God isn't even real if you've never even given him a chance? That's a but naive isn't it? "If you seek me you will find me" - God's words that are real and true but you don't understand these things because you aren't walking in the spirit, the Bible tells us that - so that's already Biblical prophesy coming true!? Right there. The Bible also says "The wicked will not understand."