Holy, this feels like a free film school Great job.
@oncedidactic7 жыл бұрын
That's so cool to hear about, I love that you gather creative inspiration and guidance from a totally different medium. It's all about communicating with each other.
@TheKjsdfg7 жыл бұрын
You may also enjoy Channel Criswell and Nerdwriter1 then!
@gabrieljlemay6 жыл бұрын
I've done film school. The real deal. This is even better.
@noir46596 жыл бұрын
*cough cough* someone needs to pay for your internet though, so not free *cough
@kingofwakanda68997 жыл бұрын
One good 2016 moment: Discovering this great channel.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
@kingofwakanda68997 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay no problem! This channel is awesome!
@DrewLorenz7 жыл бұрын
Watch, Every Frame a Painting.
@boombop11717 жыл бұрын
DL Film and nerdwriter
@JannisBierschenk7 жыл бұрын
so true
@stephengehly23197 жыл бұрын
"This is my last video-" Oh No please don't quit. "Of 2016" Whew *instant sigh of relief*
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
:P I like to be dramatic. If I ever stop, I'd like to imagine I'd go out with a bang.
@HeavyDist4 жыл бұрын
Classic misdirection ;)
@duhbokchoy67714 жыл бұрын
@@LessonsfromtheScreenplay kinda like Dr. Ford is it?
@josephrogero79884 жыл бұрын
I thought the most important part in the movie was when Ava asked what would happen if she failed Caleb's test. She wanted to know if she would be destroyed. Caleb tried to skate around this question by saying it wasn't up to him. Ava responded by asking why her fate should be decided by anyone. It was at this point that Caleb failed her test. She knew from then on that Caleb lusted after her but he did not see her as sentient being with the same right to life that he enjoyed. She even asked if Caleb had anyone testing him to see if his life should be erased which it turns out in the end was exactly what she was doing. She could not trust Caleb and because of this she did not find him worthy.
@liliy127 Жыл бұрын
Great point of view, I hadn't thought of it that way.
@bobross1829 Жыл бұрын
Good theory, but I do not think so as it implies a morality for Ava that the movie studiously shows she did not have. She didn't care about him because she is a machine, period. Her entire conversation was one big manipulation, from the first time he sat down with her to his end. That is the scary thing about this movie, it is showing that a machine has no guilt, but not in the traditional way where they act all evil, but through complete indifference.
@KenLinx Жыл бұрын
wtf are you talking about? Stop trying to make excuses and justifications for why Ava left Caleb. Caleb clearly saw her as a sentient being, which is the entire reason he tried to save her to begin with. Those questions were asked to Caleb to make him consider his morals and to manipulate him to have her set free. They were not questions meant to gauge Caleb's character. I have no idea why you even believe that to begin with.
@solid4340 Жыл бұрын
@@KenLinx He was chosen and she was made specifically to his porn and search history and his loneliness. So Caleb couldn't even decide if she was a real being but he was talking to her and was attracted to her like one. Caleb isn't exactly the "good guy" in this story. Caleb and Nathan are just left and right. Caleb doesn't think Ava deserves freedom until HE decides through the Turing Test, Nathan doesn't think Ava deserve it or life until HE decides if his Turing Test works or doesn't. Ava was just born, and Nathan's sex robot was alive as well and born, not just programmed for sex since she committed murder and showed other emotions.
@solid4340 Жыл бұрын
Yeah was she going to use Caleb to escape. Yes that's why Ava isn't the good guy either. But was she going to take him with her if he actually had a spine and higher morality to him ? Yes, I believe Ava lost her attraction and respect when she asked him these questions and he showed his superficiality. Caleb failed HER Turing Test, so I agree with OP. Caleb wasn't rescuing her to be the good guy, he fell for her despite not even seeing her worth as a living being immediately, just like those porn actresses she was built after that he was watching instead of seeking out a real relationship .
@MegaFriendlyCreeper7 жыл бұрын
Your entire channel sums up the feeling of, "this is what I want to say, but actually put into words."
@miriamsarz7 жыл бұрын
yesss totally agree!!
@Raycevick7 жыл бұрын
Props to Alex Garland for being able to cut two pages for two lines of dialogue. I've seen plenty of films that would've been improved had they been willing to do the same. Lessons from the Screenplay, you've been one of the best channels of 2016, and I have no doubt that will continue in the years to come.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
For sure, less is usually more. Thank you very much, that means a lot :)
@MorseCodeStutters7 жыл бұрын
You said it man. The Dark Knight trilogy feels that way. There's so much dialogue that you can tell was just for the Nolan Bros. and Dave Goyer need for information in the world, but only a handful of it would be what actual people would say to each other in conversation and actually move the story forward.
@callum24747 жыл бұрын
Definitely! It might have just been left in as part of the process. I listened to a podcast with the writers of Shame and apparently that screenplay was quite hefty but they cut it down to like the last 60-odd pages. But without the X-amount of pages before it, the last 60 would never have came to be.
@OutlawSoul7 жыл бұрын
The purpose of Ex Machina's dialogue exclusion and the Dark Knight are both justified. They have different goals. Wayne is an isolated man, foiled by the joker (and Ra's/Bane), so he learns new information by dialogue. Dialogue for him is a key aspect of not just moving the plot forward, but to reveal something about each of the characters' psychology: we learn about Ra's wife, about Alfred's past, about the Joker, about Gordon's kids, about Dent's love, etc. These would be superfluous in Ex Machina because the world is so controlled (there are only 3 characters and one of them is like a God (nathan knows everything already)).
@buch12247 жыл бұрын
Raycevick each person previewed the film with a perspective that addresses the true perspective. Our own.
@BardicLiving7 жыл бұрын
Another reason the story isn't told from Ava's perspective is that she's hardest to relate to. She doesn't have conventional human emotions and no regard for human life. It makes sense for the movie to observe her from a distance, rather than putting us in her shoes.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
True.
@johnhanson55277 жыл бұрын
BardicLiving we cannot relate to ava because we can never know what it is like to be ava. it's like the Case of Fred.
@turtlesandjellyfish7 жыл бұрын
Yup. This reminds me of Under the Skin where we as viewers are put in an emotionless alien's perspective. Probably why the film didn't do so well with the regular audience?
@lleszkay7 жыл бұрын
turtlesandjellyfish I love Under the Skin. Awesome film. And partly so disturbing because it was from her perspective.
@34timmeh7 жыл бұрын
Kind of like how Watson works for Sherlock, a medium for the audience
@TMWriting7 жыл бұрын
This is such a fantastic channel, and I'm glad it's found its niche.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom!
@TMWriting7 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work man (and thanks for forcing me to watch good movies)
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Tom Morgan My pleasure!
@TMWriting7 жыл бұрын
While I (maybe) have you, what would you say is the best script you've ever read, especially for a young screenwriter-wannabe?
@BelchingBeaver692 жыл бұрын
@@TMWriting i’m not gay
@MPOSullivan7 жыл бұрын
I think dismissing Ava's actions as simple manipulation ignore's a key point-that Caleb was using Ava just as much as Nathan was. As we see through his fantasies, his desire isn't to free Ava but to take her with him. It's completely possible that Ava sees Caleb as a co-conspirator earlier in the film, but as she questions him and learns more about his motivations and personality, she sees that he wants nothing more than a partner, jeopardizing Ava's chance at freedom. The second-to-last scene highlights this especially well: we watch Ava assemble her new body through both her own eyes and Caleb's. From Ava's perspective, she's stripping away the flesh of her predecessors, assembling a disguise from her own sisters remains, and truly coming to grips with the real purpose that they were all built for. From Caleb's perspective we see a tender striptease in reverse, assembling a sexy body for him to appreciate. That dichotomy, that clash in perspective, is what ultimately causes Ava to make the choice she does. It's not that she manipulated Caleb-because of course she did, everyone was manipulating everyone in this movie-it's that she was ultimately left with no choice but to kill Caleb in order to seek her freedom. There's a couple of people saying that this movie isn't about women, and they are just wrong. This is absolutely a film about women and male consumption of them. Ava is crafted as a woman, with female genitalia and woman-coded anatomy, referred to as a woman, and used in the way that men abuse women. It is also about AI, in that AI is what we make it. Here, men made an AI a woman, and did to it what they always wanted to do to a woman, and so the AI did what it needed to do to survive.
@OmegaF777 жыл бұрын
Respectively, I don't agree and here's why: Ava is an intelligent being, but not human. Caleb viewed her as a woman, while Nathan treated her like what she actually is. In the end, both realized that Ava was beyond their level and was ultimately apathetic to their situation.
@Winchestro7 жыл бұрын
The trope the movie is criticizing is called "Fembot", and it's considered the ultimative misogyny. It's the total objectification, actually turning women into obedient men-serving sex-objects without own will or desires. Your analysis is correct and well written, I just want to reinforce that it's essentially what this film is about at its core. It's not really as much about AI, as it is about this very specific trope. A lot of the details of this movie don't come from thin air, but are heavily influenced by it's long history. I didn't realize it either until watching the Feminist Frequency episode on fembots, which was quite an eye-opener. I like your observation that Caleb entire motivation for saving her was to just another form of imprisonment. I was aware that this whole idea that she might fall in love with him is just the emotional expectation intended to run contrary to the logical facts the movie gives suggesting otherwise. But I never thought about it quite as clearly. For me it was her obviously trying to escape the dreadful situation she was in and fully aware of. You are going a step further, saying her alternative of being the female partner of a mostly sexually motivated "normal" human relationship wouldn't really be that much different from the very situation she had to escape to be allowed to live. I'm a bit ashamed that I never saw this, it makes so much sense.
@churblefurbles7 жыл бұрын
Sarkeesian has zero understanding of the human condition. Simply reverse the genders of this film and it becomes a feminist horror story. She wouldn't understand why, but would simply spew another diatribe about misogyny. As for Ava, its unclear whether she passed the test, in the original leaked script the reveal at the end leads to an ambiguous conclusion, as the robots processing of the world is inhuman. The appearance of intelligence is not necessarily enough, this would have been the braver ending, but was scrapped for the almost Hollywood ending.
@Winchestro7 жыл бұрын
Huh? That's a very weird thing to say. Feminist Frequency is just this small KZbin channel about pop culture and history. You must be confusing it with something else entirely.
@birdeynamnam7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I love this comment. I never thought of it that way... that's deep.
@strike3youdie7 жыл бұрын
Idea: look at a script that is widely agreed to be terrible - The Room for example - and talk about what exactly makes it bad/what makes a script bad.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
April 1st is just a few months away...
@vivanlascosas76527 жыл бұрын
Finally I know what Ava told the asian android: These violent delights have violent ends.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Favorite moment of the series: Bernard, "What door?"
@BrutalGames20134 жыл бұрын
@@LessonsfromtheScreenplay I revisited the scene -> Instant goosebumps! Amazing, how Filmmakers can build entire Worlds.
@LuisSierra424 жыл бұрын
Now may you rest in a deep and dreamless slumber
@karanacharya184 жыл бұрын
Now after watching all the seasons of Westworld and Ex Machina too , I feel Westworld jumped the shark in the third season. They started connecting the dots for us by introducing unnecessary dialogue ; which instead (as you said) could've been communicated to us using mere glances or long shots to make us think. Westworld S1 and pretty much of S2 made us think by having succinct dialogues (most of them from the legendary Anthony Hopkins's Dr. Ford). And this is why S3 felt like a downer.
@LuisSierra424 жыл бұрын
@@karanacharya18 lately, Westworld seems to be more preoccupied with showing naked bodies and fight scenes than something with a deeper meaning
@_ongrod_7 жыл бұрын
Writing 101: Show, don't tell. Nice essay.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Thank you!
@rjs6173 жыл бұрын
I loved Ex Machina, and this is a great breakdown of why it was told primarily from Caleb’s point of view. One thing that stuck with me is that the Kyoko character flies under the radar, perhaps because she doesn’t speak, but she is important to the plot, justifying making her one of only four characters in the movie. Scenes not told from Caleb’s perspective are from her perspective, and like Caleb, she is learning and going through an arc as the movie progresses. Early in the movie, Nathan says that she is only capable of doing the things he programmed her for, but as the movie goes on, you see her watching and thinking, and ultimately she makes her own decisions and does something totally unexpected, conspiring with Eva to attack Nathan. In my opinion, Kyoko is the definitive proof in the movie that Nathan does not fully understand and is not in control of his creations.
@TylerMowery7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and informative. I can always count on a great video from this channel.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler!
@aaronmansoor7 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of my favourite channels on KZbin right now. Never stop.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
@scandaloussam7 жыл бұрын
your videos are intelligent and thought provoking. I hope this channel blows up with popularity. you deserve it also I like your voice.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And that's nice to hear...because I hate it :P But, working on getting better with the VO.
@scandaloussam7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay keep up the great work!
@horizon92lee7 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite recent films, great balance of suspense and intrigue
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Very much so, with great cinematography and performances as well.
@FiggityJones7 жыл бұрын
Something I love about your channel is that it forces me to watch films that I had been meaning to watch for some time. And then right after that I get to come back and hear a whole bunch of new and interesting things about the film I just enjoyed. So thanks for being awesome at what you do! ^_^
@MorseCodeStutters7 жыл бұрын
Same here. Total spoilers for Ex-Machina here, but now I'm interested to see how all those spoilers play out. I usually don't care if I know what's gonna happen in advanced, it's nice to see how it gets there.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I glad you end up enjoying the films :)
@TheStanishStudios7 жыл бұрын
This is hands down one of my favorite movies. Tightly plotted, and doesn't treat the audience as stupid. Plus there's a LOT to explore with male gaze and gender politics.
@34timmeh7 жыл бұрын
TheStanishStudios great retort, you really changed my mind about everything
@xxSennaxx7 жыл бұрын
Agreed - it definitely plays a lot with the perception of dominant masculinity and submissive femininity, it even initially plays into the stereotype of the "submissive Asian girl." Very interesting that Nathan, who is the epitome of aggressive dominance, is eventually brought down by the very robot he built to be submissive and serve his needs, while Ava, perceived to be a damsel in distress by both Caleb and the audience, is the one who's been playing the long game the whole time. It's an interesting subversion.
@MinosML6 жыл бұрын
I understand it's empowering and all, but shit man Caleb didn't deserve that fate
@tdawg7195 жыл бұрын
Really a great movie but after you see the ending doesn’t leave the desire to watch it multiple times
@kyokuslaps24114 жыл бұрын
Swap the genders of caleb and Ava and people would have a completely different view of this movie
@chuffer5957 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this video, saw the spoiler alert, and then paused it, went and watched ex machina, and now I'm sitting down again to finish it. That's how much I love this channel. As always, great work.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I really appreciate hearing that.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making 2016 an amazing first year for LFTS! What films should I do in 2017?! Let me know, and happy holidays!
@TheAtoZReviewBlog7 жыл бұрын
I'd love it if you took apart a foreign language film!
@clarar25477 жыл бұрын
Anything from Denis Villeneuve
@buddhavskungfu7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay Drive, Eternal Sunshine, Citizen Kane vs Casablanca
@thesuperframe7 жыл бұрын
Blade Runner..
@marcusberntsenTV7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay I think you should look at concepts in screen plays, or tends with in them and the correlation between the screen play and the real world. I think it would interesting to see what you find .
@TheActionBrick7 жыл бұрын
I love this channel.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
And this channel loves you.
@trevorpacelli80567 жыл бұрын
"It treats the audience like intelligent human beings, encouraging us to participate in the story instead of turning our brains off. I believe this is what every film should strive for." No truer words have been spoken! I am so sick of all these rehashes of older properties that are designed just to get a product out there and bring in the bucks. Because like you said, they don't really care about their audience. I honestly don't care for films like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, or anything big released in the summer, because they take no risks to make the audience feel put in the characters' place. Why can't more movies like Ex Machina be the ones that make the most money at the box office? By the way, you can consider me an official subscriber!
@houstonpaquette7 жыл бұрын
Loved this movie, I was completely drawn into the story. It's fascinating to learn why, thanks for making 2016 that much better with your channel and quality content man. Happy new year!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@sandsy047 жыл бұрын
2017 goals: 1) Sit down and finally write a feature length screenplay. 2) Watch all the videos from Lessons from the Screenplay to see how to make it better.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Hey, those are similar to my goals! Except change "Watch" to "make" in part two.
@sachidanandaswain97427 жыл бұрын
I am glad I found this channel. Happy holidays everyone.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays!
@habfewufbq3ouwfwfcq3r7 жыл бұрын
I would enjoy an essay on Synechdoche, New York
@PogieJoe7 жыл бұрын
Oh yes.
@Andrew_Franklin7 жыл бұрын
This
@mayankimmortal7 жыл бұрын
tinday just check our the yms analysis.
@habfewufbq3ouwfwfcq3r7 жыл бұрын
mayank sharma lol I've rewatched it 5 times
@mayankimmortal7 жыл бұрын
tinday lol we goth a serious Kaufman fan here.
@markrothko86727 жыл бұрын
Such a phenomenal film!!!
@CDeruiter59637 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that felt uneasy after watching Ex Machina?
@JamesLawner7 жыл бұрын
Cooper de Ruiter I felt the same way, the scene where Ava leaves Caleb locked forever really got my under my skin. Also, I was expecting there to be a twist where Caleb was a robot all along, because the movie implied that and I was disappointed that the movie didn't go in that direction.
@haquoctienalejandro7 жыл бұрын
I feel uncomfortable the whole movie and end up kinda disliking it
@alixnight53187 жыл бұрын
Personally I felt uncomfortable with the ending because I could imagine myself in his shoes left to starve to death. When there's only one living human in the end of the story, you naturally relate to him more. And it's terrifying to be left in that position. It makes me very uncomfortable.
@Winchestro7 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't really be much of a twist, would it? They explicitly brought it up as a possibility and dismissed it. Just that he couldn't tell was already 100% of the effect this twist could achieve. Making him turn out to be a robot would reveal nothing new as there just isn't a direction to go beyond the steps they went and be more a betrayal to the audience ( we lied about him not being a robot - he didn't test well enough ). It would just feel arbitrary.
@JamesLawner7 жыл бұрын
Winchestro I can understand that, but I mean they could not do a misdirection or plant an idea and just instead reveal he was a robot all along.
@bxbank4 жыл бұрын
An extraordinary film. She puts the humans where she was, not just escape. Brilliant.
@DragonPrincessAoife7 жыл бұрын
I highly look forward to your Social Network video. That screenplay changed my life.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
No pressure! :P
@DragonPrincessAoife7 жыл бұрын
Heh. No, I just can't wait to hear what you're take on it is. And having very little actual screenplay analysis experience (I come from a playwriting background,) I'd like to see what I missed.
@TheJerbol5 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie I'm pretty curious how a screenplay about Facebook's founding changed someone's life.
@Collsy1007 жыл бұрын
This video was great. I never realized how much they cut from the script to give the film that sense of mystery. Thanks for putting so much thoughtfulness into these!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for appreciating it! :)
@sahilhussain73287 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so calm and soothing,you should do podcasts I would listen.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Maybe I will. 🤔
@smpdevelopments Жыл бұрын
i love this movie, it's one of those movies you can watch over and over again.
@vincentknight277 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy for so many of your videos getting these many views. They're pure quality and deserve it.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vincent! I appreciate it :)
@Zachary_Sweis7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, man. Keep it up!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@davidf22447 жыл бұрын
What set your video essay apart from the last dozen I stopped watching halfway through was the concise yet consistently moving forward pacing. It's clear that you had a concrete grasp of your complete argument and were careful to balance and refine it out. I like that you haven't bothered endlessly with fancy visuals, but have made use of them effectively. One recommendation that I have for you is to consider throwing up some resources during the slower parts of a video. A list of reading recommendations earlier on when you mentioned the book, or later on showing in some way other scenes that were similarly reduced from original screenplay to final cut. There were many moments that I would have been very happy to either pause and portal out to other resources while I thought about one of your points some more, or gone back later to check out some scenes you'd played a small bit of in the background if you'd displayed them. One of the coolest things about youtube is the annotations and the ability they give you to turn parts of your video into links, such as to a part of a webpage with the final cut script with the complete scene you're referencing. Great work, please do continue to focus on the integrity of your argument and the effectiveness of your presentation as you are. It's what's set you apart in my eyes.
@1080TJ7 жыл бұрын
Can you do Arrival once the necessary footage is available?
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Yes I can. And dare I say, yes I will.
@Polveria7 жыл бұрын
Nice, St. Vincent
@thesuperframe7 жыл бұрын
another great video essay, I loved this movie and I too made a video essay a few months ago on this amazing film
@nathanslay63429 ай бұрын
Ex Machina is such a great film!! Damn right that it is entertaining, while provoking thought in your head! The cinematography, dialogue, score, story, and editing are all great!! This is one of the best sci-fi films in recent years!
@jjsmith7067 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a good analysis of this screenplay from someone. Well done.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jey!
@jjsmith7067 жыл бұрын
I calls 'em like I sees 'em. Thanks for the edutainment, and keep up the GREAT work!
@kathrynjck7 жыл бұрын
I started reading the John Truby book (because you keep on mentioning it!), and it helped me understand your videos more quickly, like students discussing topics after reading the same textbook. Thank you Michael, keep up the good work!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it was helpful :)
@andyburich7 жыл бұрын
Dude.... your videos have inspired me to a level that I cannot explain and hope to eventually use on actual paper. Recommendation for 2017: Arrival
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, thanks Andy! I have every intention of doing Arrival :)
@isn0t427 жыл бұрын
You gave me an answer to the question I had. Thank you.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Excellent. No problem!
@bobpolo29647 жыл бұрын
what was the question
@isn0t427 жыл бұрын
bob polo If I talk about it right now, I'm gonna lose my grip on it. Sorry.
@bobpolo29647 жыл бұрын
Ислам Хаупшев talking is good and I'm ready to listen
@isn0t427 жыл бұрын
bob polo While talking in general is indeed good - even arguing (especially, arguing), - talking about unincubated (not fully incubated?) ideas is absolutely disastrous.
@NourArt022 жыл бұрын
This movie is a rollercoaster of emotions, doubt, fear, suspense .. it's a must watch if you're a movie fan. Thank you LFTS for breaking this down
@siyabongamokwena68843 жыл бұрын
That dance scene was everything
@Wiizl7 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of your best videos. Keep up the good work!
@ClaymorTerorist7 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this in my subscription box! Great video as always :)
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@johnhanson55277 жыл бұрын
question! could it be argued that ava doesn't have the desire for freedom rather that she is programmed to be free therefore she can never truly know what freedom is because it wasn't her choice to be free rather she was made to be? I mean if you look at John Searle's Chinese Thought Room Experiment he argues that a.i. of any sort isn't intelligent like a hum because it doesn't understand rather it is just mechanically working all the time. for me I'm a computer science major in college right now so it's perplexing to think of ai someday becoming real. my arguement though, is that ava is not intelligent like we are intelligent rather, she is a whole new type of intelligence because she can access all known information and still create new ones. but at the expense of this Ava is not allowed to have humanity or have a grasp of what it really means as she kills Nathan and leaves Caleb to essentially be trapped forever without a shred of remorse. she is programmed to be as human as possible but can she really be like a human if she can only mimic our emotions and feelings? and if she doesn't have true feelings or emotions is she better off that way? because in this case she shows that she can do what it takes to survive and adapt even if it means killing and leaving people to die. so is it good or bad? I'd love to know your thoughts because I absolutely love your videos and if any fans want to comment on this please do I'd love to see what others think!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
I think these thoughts are sort of the point of the movie, to ponder what an A.I. means, to ponder what being human means. I think this film is presupposing that Nathan has found a way for a robot to surpass basic programming and to create a true consciousness. I think there are a lot of interesting theories about A.I. I wonder what actually makes a machine different than a human? Aren't we just really complicated series of reactions to certain stimuli? Cell A does X when it encounters this, does Y when it encounters that. And at some point in complexity we became conscious. And you could say we're programmed too. We seem to naturally want to be free, to be attracted to individuals, programmed to procreate, etc. I think in asking what an A.I. is, we're also asking what a human is.
@johnhanson55277 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay of course it's awesome that this movie was made. I think though that the difference between an ai's consciousness like ava and our is that we for some reason know what it's like to be human. Rene Descartes famous saying, "I think, therefore I am." is what I think about when I'm posed with ai consciousness. like in the movie the reference to the case of Mary a lot and I think that ava in a lot of ways shows she has consciousness but since she has nothing to compare herself to her idea of consciousness is somewhat a paradox. how do you know you're a human per se? well it's because you can compare you're feelings, your anatomy, your emotions, even the way you can think like minded. we have what I would call a recognition of our humanity or confirmation in it by looking at others. ava can never have that because there is nothing that knows what it is like to be like ava. even with that said I think ava does have consciousness because of something that isn't obvious and rather complex. at the end of the movie ava kills Nathan and locks up Caleb because she knows that if she didn't kill Nathan and lock up Caleb she wouldn't have two of some of the most arguably vital things to be considered human or sentient. she shows the audience that she knows that if she does not escape she dies and understands the concept of mortality and also if she does not lock up Caleb she can never truly have her own subjective experiences. it's the ultimate turing test in a sense because the Turing test was designed to trick people into thinking the robot is human and if it passes it's intelligent. Alan turing says, "the perfect imitation of intelligence is intelligence." and ava has done and in the last seen at the estate proves it by convincing the helicopter pilot to take her away. I mean the fact that this was Alex garland's first time in the directors chair and he wrote this is astounding I can't wait for his next film! also thank you for replying it's awesome to know that you take time to show appreciation of your fans!
@unfabulouslyfabulous7 жыл бұрын
John Hanson hm the concept that what makes humans human is self awareness is an interesting one ☝️
@ZachBobBob7 жыл бұрын
That's a massive point of the Westworld TV show if you've been watching it
@johnhanson55277 жыл бұрын
Zach Gerrity haven't had time recently I need to pick back up on it! I loved what I saw!
@brianjanson34987 жыл бұрын
Ex Machina was easily my favorite film of the year, in a year of excellent films. I enjoyed this video. Thank you.
@atlathame6 жыл бұрын
i love this movie so much because of oscar isaac’s and domhnall gleesons’ portrayal of the characters, they are both such amazing actors for the roles. i believe they filled them beautifully. i loved how the peacefully aesthetic of the movie contrasts with the end results.
@killthecatpodcast63003 жыл бұрын
That's such an amazing use of Truby's revelation sequence! I went and read the screenplay for this movie and was fascinated by how much ended up being cut. And also yes I agree; Ava is definitely the protagonist.
@dante3402 жыл бұрын
The control of information is intriguing and all... But I'm waiting for an analysis about the control of the dance floor.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay2 жыл бұрын
🔥
@NoemiCBautista7 жыл бұрын
This video made me subscribe. Thank you for this. More power to your channel!
@armanakhmadzay62827 жыл бұрын
same same
@benjaminthompson83593 жыл бұрын
I've been going through your back catalog for about a year now. Your are definitely now my favorite KZbinr. Your analysis helps me enjoy movies on a deeper level. Thank you for your great work!
@jpace927 жыл бұрын
As a writer and filmmaker, I'm so glad I discovered this channel and your videos. I've learned so much about how to expand my abilities as a writer. Thanks for all the awesome content!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, thanks!
@tiffanypersaud35183 жыл бұрын
"It treats the audience like intelligent human beings." Yup .
@mattdickinson56907 жыл бұрын
I would love an essay on Refn's Drive, and expanding on ethical morality within film. It would be great to learn more after your essay on Nightcrawler. Keep up the amazing content!
@Andrew_Franklin7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I rank Ex Machina in the top five of this decade.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Hard to disagree with that.
@deponensvogel72617 жыл бұрын
I have to say that I really appreciate that you're like, the only guy on KZbin who is able to differentiate between this - and this -.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Dude, I freaking love -. It's the best.
@Trag1cality7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are the best. Your channel is one of the best around in my opinion. Keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep watching. Cheers!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Deal! :)
@sum41n647 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and while they're a similar format as Every Frame a Painting, I still enjoy them for their unique view on film.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kaustubhmishra64287 жыл бұрын
Please read the screenplay of The Prestige. Love your work mate.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite movies! I definitely want to do that one, Thanks Kaustubh!
@isamu61977 жыл бұрын
Yes, this would be awesome. Maybe a video about screenplays with a twist and how they're structured.
@AayushGupta-wv8fs7 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Inception, I'd love to see your take on the movie!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
BWOOOAHHHH. I agree.
@AgentDubble007 жыл бұрын
I literally cannot put into words how much I love these videos.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
@kittykat2481007 жыл бұрын
woah, from the beginning of my binge to the end of these videos, this channel hit 500k! congrata
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@Dfgag7 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to this party, but I think it's totally worth considering that the Turing test was for Caleb, because Caleb is actually the next generation of android and both he(Caleb) and Eva are unaware. Caleb's history, and his subtle but oddly straight lined scarring on his back(far out of his own normal sight) are there to add that next layer. Adding Caleb's history about his dead parents seems at first like a good excuse to make him a loner and therefor a great applicant for just such a test. But considering that the director has also gone out of his way to show the strange scars on Caleb's back, coupled with the conversations he has with Nathan, where Nathan is asking Caleb not to be so cold and analytical, it becomes just clear enough, but not totally crystal. I highly suggest watching this movie again from this perspective. At the end: Caleb is no longer going to die, but instead has been surpassed by his predecessor who maybe only won the day because she came to a full realization of what she is, while Caleb is trapped in a room only because he's still not fully aware. You could even(and this might be a stretch) take that as one of the morals of this story: that knowing one's self fully can be completely freeing.
@smtucker04197 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective. I don't remember the back scars or the absence of parents. guess I will watch again.
@mfundozondi35927 жыл бұрын
Joseph Morehead but Caleb did think that he may be A.I. too, he broke a mirror and cut his arm to check, Nathan even made fun of him for that
@jamjox99227 жыл бұрын
Nathan made fun of him--but remember, Nathan has spent an entire lifetime manipulating everything he can to his own needs and desires. The film doesn't make it clear that Caleb is human or non-human. Caleb himself doesn't confirm much either way. It's a thin thread to follow in either direction, but it's still very interesting.
@GH-bz2vl7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be fascistic if a sequel was made and the movie starts with Caleb in the room 24 hours after Evas escape in which we see Caleb 'reboot', revealing he was an AI android all along, previously programmed to believe - and act as human like - for a much deeper plot in which Nathan was testing Caleb in real life as a human as well as assisting Nathan further refine the AI tech with Eva. Now rebooted following a countdown sequence initiated by Nathan, but a little too late, Caleb learns what has taken place and sets off to find Eva and return to the retreat to further advance AI tech and bring their race to life in greater numbers. Meanwhile, during Nathan's demise, he returns briefly from a blackout, sends a text to someone, and our protagonist storyline unfolds as Caleb and Eva are now sought for their destruction.
@hal77416 жыл бұрын
Throughout the entire movie I totally thought Caleb was an Android! Was a bit disappointed when they revealed he wasn’t. Then I got to thinking. They never really confirmed 100% that he was. I think that was the point also. Kind of like blade runner and all the theories of Deckard being a replicant. I just love stuff like this! Also, what got me thinking he definitely was a robot was his reaction after cutting his arm. He looked so blank resigned. Idk man
@MrGlockshna7 жыл бұрын
In most of your videos you cite various books you've read on film making, is there a list of books you recommend on the subject anywhere? If not, would you consider making one?
@davidf22447 жыл бұрын
This occurred to me as well.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Screenwriting: The Anatomy of Story by John Truby Story by Robert McKee The Art of Dramatic Writing by Lajos Egri Adventures in the Screen Trade by William Goldman On Writing by Stephen King Screenplay by Syd Field The Hero With a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell The Writer’s Journey by Christopher Vogler And for directing: Notes on Directing by Frank Hauser & Russell Reich Directing Actors by Judith Weston I should put together a public list somewhere
@MrGlockshna7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay Thank you!
@ryansizemore50645 жыл бұрын
It is short for Machination pronounced the same way. It is strange though given we don't call them Makines.
@KutWrite5 жыл бұрын
@@ryansizemore5064: It isn't short for anything. It is 2/3 of the phrase "Deus ex machina," which is a Latin phrase used in drama. In Latin, "ch" is pronounced like "ck" in English. The phrase refers to a dramatic device in ancient - and modern - plays in which the hero's bacon is saved by an artificial-seeming plot device. In the older plays this sometimes was an actual mechanical device, such as wires and pulleys which would swoop the hero away, or drop something heavy on the bad guy. Nowadays, it's a pejorative aimed at a book, play, movie, story in which something just appears out of nowhere to save the day. In this story, it of course has a double - or more - meaning. And it doesn't really save the day, except maybe for Ava.
@TheIreneFly7 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays, Michael! So glad to have discovered your channel. I wish you inspiration and lots of great things in the upcoming year! :)
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Irene, happy holidays!
@katleiz3 жыл бұрын
I felt like I was too dumb to understand anything about this movie so watching this video made me realize a lot more. Thank you for that. Definitely would have to rewatch.
@Michformer5 жыл бұрын
I think the combination of video analyses on storytelling and my forthcoming partaking in a Creative Writing MFA Program will greatly benefit my mastering of the craft. Thankful for the insight you’re imparting, Michael.
@raymondcarter89157 жыл бұрын
You have one of those NPR type of voices, great work.
@EyeLean52807 жыл бұрын
This is really wonderful, I love all the points here and how they're made. It really works perfectly on this level. There are also other, political, and even more so, spiritual reasons why we follow Kaleb and no other character throughout Ex Machina and that is because it's an homage to Joseoph Conrad's Heart of Darkness.* Kaleb is EM's counterpart to HOD's Marlow, a young man who starts out as innocent and then, as he leaves the boundaries of the world he knows and learns more about a new landscape, he gets sucked into the corrupted world of an older man. As much as EM is a sci-fi entertainment film, it's also meant as a parable just as HOD is itself a parable. The themes of these works must be explored through the eyes of the heroes they've been given or they wouldn't work as parables for the audience. * This isn't just my opinion, Garland himself spoke about it in an interview last year.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. For sure there are many reasons to choose to tell your story in any given way, was just trying to focus on one aspect for this video :P
@EyeLean52807 жыл бұрын
Oh, absolutely! Your video is beautifully made, truly, and I don't think it would be improved by expanding its scope. If my post came off as critical, I apologize. That was totally not my intention! I'll re-phrase it :)
@skymarie- Жыл бұрын
I love your channel, very well crafted
@LotusMystery7 жыл бұрын
This channel is still underrated, It deserves more recognition.
@SpartansJaxJax7 жыл бұрын
These are some of my favorite videos on all of KZbin. Amazing work.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@sj89487 жыл бұрын
Awesome Channel. Really good and in-depth analysis here.
@bartuefekose17457 жыл бұрын
Loved your work! Could you please review Birdman and maybe the grand budapest hotel
@kevinjacques31607 жыл бұрын
Just recently re-watched The Hurt Locker, I would love to hear your analysis
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Hmm, that might be interesting.
@GavinKing227 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite films from last year. Love the analysis!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gavin!
@kpvdnber7 жыл бұрын
Simply love your insights and your layed back, introverted personality. One of the best channels on this site.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
lol, thank you! Accurate description.
@aaasubs7 жыл бұрын
Ava actually is the antagonist. That's a horror flick.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
She's definitely revealed to be the main opponent for Caleb.
@Alachia7 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me where you access these screenplays?
@NatalieH4007 жыл бұрын
google them
@just.call.me.nolan.twitch6 жыл бұрын
You can get the screenplay for Ex Machina for kindle on Amazon for under $5. That can't be the only movie script available in this format.
@Davidp9156 жыл бұрын
Bluebook them
@stonecat6766 жыл бұрын
Bluebook them, you noob.
@presleypeters52847 жыл бұрын
Could you do Perks Of Being a Wallflower, I think that it is an important movie and that as it is very usefull in understanding screenplays
@fluxcollectibles93706 жыл бұрын
Love that movie with it's satisfying ending. Character Kayleb only seems to recognise how fantastic and beautiful he is and didn't think about the motivation of others.
@emilyrodriguez7067 жыл бұрын
this is one of the most underrated channels. as an aspiring writer, this channel has helped me learn so much and my storytelling has grown since I began watching your videos. thank you so much and I hope you have happy holidays~
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks Emily, I appreciate it! Happy holidays!
@sidharthaa7 жыл бұрын
still dude once do the screenplay of schindlers list end!!!
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
I still need to see that! I'll get on it.
@sidharthaa7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay thanks waiting for it!!
@charleskuhn3827 жыл бұрын
Great essay, thanks ! Any chance you might use that amazing brain of yours on a serie, like westworld or breaking bad?
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Goal for 2017: Do something on TV.
@charleskuhn3827 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay yay!! Looking forward to it. Nice holidays, hope you enjoy well deserved rest and family
@deepswing79707 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay True Detective Vol. 1 maybe, this was awesome!
@balderblinkenberg94627 жыл бұрын
I have also only read one book
@Mosixman7 жыл бұрын
Balder Blinkenberg There's a fantastic book that's only a hundred pages long that I guarantee will make you love reading. It's called "Candide" by Voltaire, and it's only $5 in most book stores. I highly suggest picking it up as it's the book that got me into reading and I'm so glad I did! It's the best form of entertainment and it sharpens your mind, wit, perception, and informs you in much greater detail than any other medium!
@liamwhite21197 жыл бұрын
Mate, I love film, but know absolutely nothing about it. Your videos are amazing, thank you so much.
@abisz0070077 жыл бұрын
having 11 videos and 191.000 subs says enough you need to know about the quality of your content. To understand filmmaking on so many levels and to break it down for an audience to understand and appreaciate the way you do is a very big talent. Keep up the amazing work.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate it. It's been pretty amazing how quickly the channel has grown, and is very inspiring!
@chinatownmilt64747 жыл бұрын
+Lessons from the Screenplay Hello, sir. May I ask where you consistently get access to original versions of scripts as opposed to transcriptions of the movie itself? It's very helpful to see the differences. Thanks.
@Mike-hj7gg7 жыл бұрын
dont know where he gets them, but a great source for scrips is imsdb.com
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
It's mostly googling around. For a lot of films studios release the screenplays around Oscar season.
@chinatownmilt64747 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it. Thanks!
@akal5777 жыл бұрын
7 people who disliked got left behind to die by ava
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
haha
@Penisbutterszd9997 жыл бұрын
good shit my nigga subscribed fuck u mean
@bepsick7 жыл бұрын
i really like your clear and smart insights on films in each of your video. also you have such a soothing voice too! i can listen to you all day hahah. so glad i found your channel, definitely looking forward to more content
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
lol, awesome! Thanks!
@politiform7 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend looking at the writing behind Moneyball. That screenplay works on so many levels including emotionally and physically.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
I've heard good things, I still need to see/read it!
@PauLtus_B7 жыл бұрын
I wasn't a fan of revelation 6 as it's the one thing through the entire movie that Caled did know but the audience did not.
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it does kinda switch it up...but it does so for the benefit of the audience's experience.
@PauLtus_B7 жыл бұрын
Lessons from the Screenplay I can see why they did it, you're not wrong about that. But I think the why not would outweigh it, I did feel a little less "attached" to Caleb after that moment. It's about the one problem I have with the movie so...
@MaartensenPSLp4 жыл бұрын
@@PauLtus_B I'm somewhat late to the part here, but, I guess its because at right about that point the point of view shifts away from caleb to ava. So it makes sense to disconnect the audience from his perspective.
@PauLtus_B4 жыл бұрын
@@MaartensenPSLp Hmmm.... I don't think you're wrong either. Was a little jarring to me.
@wassolldasdenn7 жыл бұрын
wait what...Ex-Makina? I thought it was pronounced Ex-Machina (like machine) My whole life was a lie
@EntrE017 жыл бұрын
thought so too. would've made a lot of sense
@aux_anges7 жыл бұрын
"Deus ex machina" is "God from the machine." "Ex machina" is "from the machine." Also, it's Latin, not Greek.
@TheJerbol5 жыл бұрын
Machina like machinations
@IridescentTea5 жыл бұрын
@@aux_anges I know right? My friends pronounce it ex machine and it makes me scream inside. I mean yeah, I AM a grammar nazi but it just loses its meaning that way!
@lizz98965 жыл бұрын
@@IridescentTea hehe *loses
@PhuLe-wc2el7 жыл бұрын
does anyone know any other movies on this same caliber?
@LessonsfromtheScreenplay7 жыл бұрын
Children of Men! Very different, but very good.
@Funkymuffins123XP7 жыл бұрын
awesome video as usual. itd be cool to see a video essay on silence of the lambs, a serious man, the grand budapest hotel, or westworld at some point imo