Ex Muslim v Hamza's Den: reasons for leaving Islam.

A review of an Ex-Muslim's appearance on Hamza's Den, discussing why he left Islam and Hamza's poor apologetics for why he shouldn't have.
Panellists: Rob (SC-UK), Stopspsamming, Thunderous One, Moose Staff Ahh
Chapters
0:00 Hamza says he'd be a Muslim if Muhammad didn't exist
4:37 Blaming parents for people leaving Islam
7:05 Reason Ray left Islam & reasons Hamza joined
14:48 Hamza claims to have tested other religions
17:08 How do you know if Islam is true or not?
24:00 Something from nothing
40:27 Cause of the universe
1:03:06 Muhammad: liar, lunatic or prophet?

[@alioramus1637]

Hamza thinks he so intelligent and when he can't answer the questions he tries to turn your words back on you.

[@komujimaru]

its called taqqiya

[@Monolith1616]

Or he just straight up kicks you. Little lion can't take the heat.

[@thegroove2000]

Imagine Hamza there in a padded room and it all makes perfect sense.

[@aar7455]

Those jinn and tonic shows were the best...the way they picked all the muslim claims apart were genius....

[@StopSpammingOriginal]

Thank you, it feels good to be appreciated.

[@jameswaterhouse-brown6646]

This is great guys. So entertaining. Well done! Keep it up!

[@HappyCamper84]

Haha! I've not watched this yet but I'm sure it will be a banger! 😂

[@ranu4199]

Ur stupid prophet fail to tell u how old d universe is. Muhammad was d best of d worst.

[@lordsneed9418]

I think Hamza started malfunctioning because he's used to western atheists saying "I haven't seen any good reason to believe that islam is true" and then he has some nonsense argument prepared about "either Mo was a liar or he was mad or he was a prophet" but he's not used to exmuslim atheists saying "I haven't seen any good reason to believe that islam is true" . He's used to exmuslim atheists saying " I have these reasons to believe that islam is false " I think he's perturbed by the idea of people brought up muslim en masse thinking " what good reason is there to believe islam is true? There doesn't seem to be any so I guess we should stop believing it is true"

[@XiagraBalls]

I love that car analogy you mention when they're Gish Galloping the Kalam, Watchmaker, etc. together.

[@stevec700]

I tested Islam. I got to the first Surah that says Allah is most merciful, while remembering that Allah tortures people for eternity for choosing the wrong religion. If I was a god, I'd say do what I want and you get the reward of paradise, if you don't you die. There you go, I'm the most merciful. Forget all the other contractions and glaring errors in the Quran.

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

So you would reward serial killers with paradise. Genius aren’t ya.

[@user-yh3pn1he2w]

U would be an unjust "God" then.

[@stevec700]

@@user-yh3pn1he2w So you think torturing a human being for eternity for being born into the wrong religion is just? If this god does exist, he is a narcissistic genocidal psychopath, who takes pleasure in watching things suffer. If he does exist, he is not worthy of my worship. Muslims are in for a shock if he does exist. He's sending you all to hell, and will laugh that you believed his crap.

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

@@Licht0101 so you wouldn’t allow people to exercise free will. You’re a tyrant that’d only create robots then.

[@user-yh3pn1he2w]

@@Licht0101 will u be just to a rapist who raped your mom ? U all dumb asf tbh

[@sandomoore6164]

The God of heaven will never call a child molester and rapist to represent him, only Satan does that!!!

[@uthman2281]

How do you know about God?

[@sandomoore6164]

@uthman2281 our God is not like the stone. Muslims bow to. A true Christian who accepts Jesus with all his heart, Jesus performers miracle in his heart. His heart is filled with great joy and great happiness, peace;, and great understanding of the holiness of the God of heaven. One of the greatest miracle that happened to me was when God convicted of my sins and how God gave me victory over Adultery, when I prayed for God to give me victory and I walked out leaving the woman I was dating and I slept in the living room. Up to today , I communicate with my God and he answers when I call him... Jesus will answer you sincerely call on him!!!!!

[@uthman2281]

@@sandomoore6164 Your god is a jew.

[@XiagraBalls]

Guys, would love to get involved in your group. Do you have a discord or something?

[@jameswaterhouse-brown6646]

The more they talk, the deeper the hole the dig islam to fall into. All that will need to be done at some point, is cover the hole.

[@BlockedAtheist-jq5ws]

Ali Dawah is on Hamzas Den now. Ask him about scientific miracles 😀

[@drasticmeasuresislam]

Thanks for the tip. I may review the video.

[@stevec700]

@@drasticmeasuresislam Update - Ali Dawah and Subtour looked like they were falling asleep, then disappeared from the stream. I think they know the game is up and no one is buying their Allah anymore, to quote Jordon Peterson.

[@uthman2281]

​@@stevec700 Your opinion.

[@harvisingh6671]

Great analysis, breaking down the garbage being spouted out by these poor dawah guys.

[@user-dl8eg9rk1t]

Unique wholeness to local somethingness, thats whern the magic begins :)

[@iiddrrii6051]

God damn! Total destruction! We need more like you to challenge these dawah guys.

[@XiagraBalls]

On the Kalam, I would simply ask Hamza or any other theist to give me an example of something like begins to exist and then what was the => single

[@Aurora-uq5hm]

THE ISLAME "BOY'S" STILL ON THE GRAVY TRAIN!!💲💲

[@TheMagnificentGman]

South Africa represent

[@BrotherYusuf]

Does Jordan actually allowed to say anything in this video ??

[@Atz22]

You guys make video after video debating and discussing - why don't you go on one of their many live streams and present your arguments....

[@drasticmeasuresislam]

Wow! I haven't seen that written 100s of times before by salafis who can't make an actual argument 🤣

[@lilyofspeakerscorner]

Taqiyya friend chicken, anyone?

[@jameswaterhouse-brown6646]

They must hate this channel.

[@drasticmeasuresislam]

Hamza did leave a troll comment on one of my videos last year, refused the offer of a conversation with me when I responded and then trash talked me on his livestream. It's safe to say he's not a fan 🤣

[@Alex-fz4oh]

Hamza and that dopey wally Jordan.

[@drasticmeasuresislam]

Yep, they're the ones.

[@ashsharp1985]

Hamazas might be harsh and abrupt with his wording however your thinking is skewed. Example ,If you are born into a religion it does NOT make ALL religion ABSOLUTELY FALSE. One still had to be TRUE and others can BE LESS TRUE.

[@drasticmeasuresislam]

All major religions make claims that make them mutually exclusive, so if one were to be true, the others would by definition be false. Of course they all could be false, which I think is most likely the case. That being said, it doesn't mean that some individual claims within each religion could be true, but that in itself does not make the religion true.

[@ashsharp1985]

@@drasticmeasuresislam they all point towards one God or a Higher Power. Is that not a commonality?

[@drasticmeasuresislam]

@@ashsharp1985 The Abrahamic religions do and Sikhism does. Buddhism doesn't, Hinduism does under some interpretations but not under others.

[@ashsharp1985]

@drasticmeasuresislam read the 7 hermetic principles. The Principles are OBJECTIVE truths that govern this universe. The FIRST Law is "ALL" is Mind. I will not spoil it for you however it is definitely worth looking into. Peace my bro 🙏

[@drasticmeasuresislam]

@@ashsharp1985 I don't think they are objective truths but thanks for the recommendation. Peace to you also 👍

[@Happydays134]

Hamza Botox is getting embarrassing 😂😂

[@lilyofspeakerscorner]

WIthout lies, Islam dies.

[@thegroove2000]

On the balance of probabilities when all is said and done, this is all created but by what no one knows. I'm not even a God believer. The biggest mystery of them all. For now enjoy the many wonders of nature and be thankful to exist. Given the gift of life.

[@thegroove2000]

What if randomness is not actual randomness?

[@aaronwilliamh9905]

Hamza for Christ

[@christophernichols9707]

I tested religion lmao they mean rhey think Christianity is fakse and the bible is corrupted so the quran must be true ?? Lmao 😅

[@drasticmeasuresislam]

Pretty much

[@uthman2281]

Not true.