(EXCLUSIVE) Boris Johnson: "They Were Looking at Engineering the Virus & The Government Bribed Me!"

[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

Steve here! Thanks for watching and thanks for all your feedback! Many of you have given lots of feedback on me being too direct / interrupting Boris. I think that feedback is fair - thank you! I was very keen to try and get specific answers to questions and I think that resulted in a much more direct approach than usual / than you guys like! If I ever interview a political figure again, will bear that in mind. Thanks for watching - Steven

[@swannrob]

Yeah, i think he was being evasive from the start. Seemed the early questions were to get an idea of his humanity, but he wasn't willing to give you anything. Then you were left with less time and a lot of topics.

[@lisahawkins7604]

I think you did a great job Steve, it's not easy to interview any politician - let's face they're used to a completely different ball game and if you're not used to it, then you're on the back foot. At least you take consideration into feedback constructively, that's the best you can do.

[@Mens-Wisdom]

I disagree, I think you did a great job Steven.

[@Mens-Wisdom]

@@swannrobcompared to his modus operandi in politics, I think he was very open, relatively speaking.

[@Mark-lj5gw]

I think you did that interview well. I don’t think it was too direct, politicians should be challenged and I think you did it respectfully and gave him time to respond

[@MikeW-t6l]

For those who care about their health and what goes on behind the scenes, 'Health and Beauty Mastery' is a must-read. Dr. Julian Bannett exposes shocking facts about the industry that everyone should know. I can’t look at health advice the same way again!

[@karlsa6298]

Steven, watching you digging into the life and career of Boris, and still able to maintain a good level of respect and friendliness is brilliant. I'm a fan!

[@ilb735]

Love him or loathe him, he seldom fails to raise a smile.

[@jamieawhite72]

Well done for not letting him off the hook with many of the questions, and pushing for answers. I hope one day we'll have politicians which can answer straight questions with clear answers.... but won't hold my breath in the meantime.

[@nolandderlugner1351]

Ehmm we have MANY politicians who are like that

[@ludmillaroche9925]

Steve asked more than 6 times how Boris felt when his mum died. Isn't this intrusive? What Steve did after - he concluded - this is how my friends felt when their loved one passed away. And he made immediate interjection - while you and your cabinet/friends had parties at No 10. Is this a kind of dishonest questioning?! Another example - Steve's question - with whom you broke relationships during your PM? Wrong question! You may unfriend someone, like I have unsubscribed Steve right now, and then may change your mind. Seems Boris tried to answer along these lines. No, you are not answering my questions - again Steve repeated this a few times. Well, make a note Steve, if you will ask wrong questions, you will not get right answers.

[@robthenorm]

I too noticed how little manners the host has and he seemed quite rude

[@mandyvonbroembsen2348]

I found your style of interviewing too confrontational and I got the feeling that you dislike Boris and this Came through very clearly.

[@rosiemaughan2996]

​@@mandyvonbroembsen2348most definitely it was like a bloody cross examination

[@jeanhalliday4646]

Thank you Steven for conducting the only interview with this man that makes him seem almost normal. Never understood a word he has ever said before.

[@SofoArchon]

"Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders." ~George Carlin

[@14stewartj]

Never a truer word spoken

[@andrewg9236]

Generally elite schools where brains and integrity are left at the gates..

[@robertdunlop5247]

Eton?

[@manymoms920]

There is a personality trait often in politics. Too much has been I want to be famous, not I want to serve.

[@Margarinetaylorgrease]

@@robertdunlop5247 Dulwich is having a go now. The Farig and the Deform party. The new elite?

[@Indabird42]

Boris is NOT ready for this type of interview. He has Zero self awareness. Steve you did very well with what you were working with

[@15Daniels]

This will certainly (or hopefully, anyway) help with that..?

[@nolandderlugner1351]

Ur comment makes zero sense

[@Indabird42]

@@nolandderlugner1351 makes zero sense to you, that's ok, not everyone has the intelligence to understand it

[@thiagoalcantara7371]

He does has self awareness he is thinking very carefully about the answer to every question that’s why he pauses so often and just circumvents round everything when possible

[@Indabird42]

@@thiagoalcantara7371 that is not the definition of self-awareness

[@londan_x]

Finally an interview of Johnson where the interviewer doesn't fall for his bluster and turns up with facts. Chapeau Steven, this could be your best work, and thank you from a nation that wants serious things to be taken seriously.

[@grahamhill9770]

There are some very convenient edits and cuts to a topic change....when the heat is raised

[@grantd113]

His questions were obvious and didn’t challenge the narrative on anything. Steve is a remainer

[@grahamhill9770]

@@grantd113 hahaha...a remainer.... Without a doubt... 🤣

[@LilyJane-ek2rl]

Alternatively we could look at the Wuhan 2019 Military World Games 18th October

[@NealBird-bq7ix]

Coincidentally something else happened on the 18th of 2019 !

[@melissa-wilson]

American here! I disagreed with a lot of Johnson's [limited] policy and his duplicitous persona when faced with criticism. However, I admire Johnson. He is highly intelligent, strategic, and calculated. On the personal side, he seems like interesting company.

[@AlignedwithAmelia]

I don't admire him being a smarmy, self-serving nincompoop who has survived because he has other friends in high places like the media buttressing him up. I also will never forgive that man for flip flopping that man on Brexit, impoverishing the average Brit, allowing Farage onto the stage even more, and high tailing it for the rest of his life on great funds and pension, presumably living it up in Verbier.

[@charmainepriestman915]

Boris an outstanding example of a politician. Taking no responsibility and speaking but saying absolutely nothing

[@mohamedbabajalloh4055]

😅😂😂

[@kcltube3]

same thoughts here yup, I could barely get through this he just didn't give anything at all, no intimacy

[@SeanieVoiceOver]

Thank you Vladimir

[@mahmoudiehmahmoudieh7238]

This is the best comment to the point!

[@saradeanpereira]

True. This was very difficult to watch. The man struggles to complete his sentences.

[@Sophiamann1111]

I’m so happy to see a main stream person on KZbin with independent media. We need more of this to heal the divide. Well done.

[@nickieglazer33]

Don't be fooled that he's independent.

[@rachgrant8640]

I thought diversity was our strength though?

[@erikERXON]

in your dreams - it will never ever happen in reality, you are slave and you will remain this way. clearly, you cant comprehend the reality. independent media 🤣 did you just returned from the moon? youtube will say a word and your independent media will jump and ask how high, this is how much independent it is.

[@Kraken0000]

boris only engages with docile, supine media

[@Anne-ku3lj]

He had Brett Weinstein on. Mainstream cannot go near him

[@Reensie]

I have to say when i saw Boris was a guest i was a bit disappointed in the show thinking Boris will be treated like a success story. Then i saw the comments here and finally listened to the episode and have to say Steve did a great job of asking the tough questions and keeping it real!

[@bruceleejeetkunedouk]

In my humble opinion, Steve, your interviews are getting sharper and sharper, and this is one of the sharpest I've seen (I've still got loads to watch). Thanks for doing your homework and asking the brave questions all of us had on our mind during Boris's leadership, and demonstrating sound virtues and values everyone should live by to make the world a better place to live in - as a martial arts teacher, we call this "The martial way". Keep up the fantastic work 🙏

[@ET76001]

Totally disagree.

[@giaustin952]

Why?​@@ET76001

[@PrivateHandle.14]

Agree 100%!

[@MichaelDowney-mz7pv]

I neither disagree or agree.

[@janicelewis2384]

A discussion about the shift of wealth during covid and lockdown might have been interesting 🤔

[@EvoraGT430]

Nothing to do with COVID. Just a rigged system.

[@susanvanaken]

the blame game, so hard to admit responsibility, o goodness no, he is not looking for sympathy is he ?

[@Drew.P.Todger]

Shhh 😂

[@MrAndylale]

Let’s give the multinationals furlough money. They can then hand out only 80% of it, then they can sack their workers and hire back on worse terms. This means the richest got richer and the small businesses collapsed. Biggest transfer of wealth since … the banking crisis. Wonder what the next excuse will be to take from the poor and give to the rich.

[@MatthewPowell-bf2ws]

and more inline with the podcast , but instead we got Steven trying to do what we have heard so many times , Steven let him speak , you invited him on the show , you ask the question but dont let him finish

[@bevturner2258]

Steven tried… The trouble is that Boris constantly self censors, so not much makes it from thoughts to speech. At first I thought he was just poor at introspection, but then decided he just wasn't prepared to allow any hint of vulnerability. He was incredibly careful and diplomatic in his answers and after two hours, I really don't think much was revealed about the man. This is not due to a lack on Steven's part, he certainly tried to push back every time he was evasive. Boris took his time before starting to speak and you could almost see him deciding what to disclose. This was not an open and honest conversation on the part of BJ. It was a tightly controlled and disciplined response to questions Boris mostly considered too invasive.

[@jadesx96]

Hes probably had a ton of pr training

[@alenaustsinovich7348]

🎯👏

[@BGNewsReporter]

Exactly. Which is why all the comments criticizing Steven for "not letting Boris speak" are ridiculous. The interview would be twice as long with no questions answered.

[@PK-dc4zh]

Yes 💯

[@buggyboogle9]

The kind of training Prince Andrew probably wished he had.

[@mam6134]

Boris said many times, he focused on his education and goals instead of feeling self pity.... I don't know why people have problem with that, it is a very effective way to look forward

[@KingLoa-t1n]

Easier said than done. Life isn’t the same for everyone.

[@TeddyBongo-zf1ih]

I think your interview style was brilliant, with no particular further adjustment needed. This was no ordinary interview and you had to take on a skillful, wily interlocutor - one well practiced in airy debate and waffling (in much briefer soundbites). So well done you! The fact is that if you let Boris rattle on uninterrupted he will demonstrate fully just how articulate he can be. For me, while I admire his amusing but lethal bonhomie and wit, I admire even more your ability to contain his wilful avoidance of directly responding to any question/issue. Also, my heart went out to him (Boris) when discussing his early life/upbringing (not an easy psychological developmental path) and then later, the loss of his mother. You showed considerable compassion while asking the necessary questions. Kudos. Do your thing!

[@SharieLouJones]

Boris' discussion of his childhood is heartfelt to me, I had a similar start in life. The honesty here is beautiful. Thanks Boris and Steve for helped him through a great interview.

[@holdupwaitaminute.]

Imagine by 10 million subs this channel interviews Kim Jong-un 😮

[@victoriab09117]

😂😂😂😂

[@victoriab09117]

😂😂😂

[@PhonkAttack4DX]

Woa careful there 😮🎉

[@teaformulamaths]

@@holdupwaitaminute. Trump first

[@KC-sc]

Should we have Seth Rogen write the script for the interview?

[@MagdaleneM-f3q]

Bring Julianne Iwersen Niemann on the show. She changed my life Financially I managed to grow a nest egg of around 120k to over a Million. I'm especially grateful to Julianne Iwersen Niemann, for her expertise and exposure to different areas of the market.

[@Erikkurilla01]

I know this lady you just mentioned. Julianne Iwersen Niemann is a portfolio manager and investment advisor. She gained recognition as an employee of neuberger berman; a renowned investor she is. Julianne Iwersen Niemann has demonstrated expertise in investment strategies and has been involved in managing portfolios and providing guidance to clients.

[@YadaniL-g8k]

I’ve heard of her How can i reach her, if you don't mind me asking?

[@Erikkurilla01]

⁠ her name is 'JULIANNE IWERSEN NIEMANN'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

[@YadaniL-g8k]

I appreciate this. After curiously searching her name online and reviewing her credentials, I'm quite impressed. I've contacted her as I could use all the help I can get

[@jessicasquire]

The thing is people often doubt the prospects of financial advisors like Julianne Iwersen Niemann in business/markets today.

[@emmadawson2147]

Yes Boris is very good at giving speeches and talking on subjects but in this interview it was like a therapy session for him - he had to stop to think what he was feeling. Great to observe this… Probably difficult for him to be looking at his inner deepest feelings but it was good that he did it. Well done for interviewing him. Well done Boris for exploring deeper than usual questioning. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@ClapItsMe]

Do you honestly think that? Common, when he says, funny enough though, “I don’t quite remember,” is complete garbage… especially when it was asked about his parents splitting up and whatnot. I mean, who at his best mind wouldn’t remember?! 😂😂

[@Anne-ku3lj]

I never believe anything boris is saying. He will have researched Steven, his fan base and his setup significantly. Boris wants to come back. He will adapt himself accordingly.

[@ClapItsMe]

@@Anne-ku3lj agree with you! It’s naive to say that he isn’t an intelligent person.

[@emmadawson2147]

@@ClapItsMe it’s not that Boris didn’t remember, he clearly looks awkward with the question. This is mainly because no one has ever really interviewed him to look deep within and carefully examine a deep dive about his private life issues that he has buried. He clearly didn’t want to discredit his mother and father and he didn’t know how to answer. Boris is old school and has buried painful stuff that he has learnt to have a stiff upper lip and carry on with. This is what people were told to do in his time. From a psychological point of view this was a fascinating interview.

[@ClapItsMe]

@@emmadawson2147 well, I might be wrong, but I wouldn’t put my hands on fire for him! Other than that, seeing that his mother has a psychiatric past, I wouldn’t be naive, but again I might be wrong, but whatever, that he might have some trace of psychopathy (based on the premise that he might be manipulating everything in the conversation) 😂😅

[@ivanwoodhouse1958]

What a fascinating interview and the best thing about the interview was the politeness and respect of the interviewer to Boris. In doing so we really got to see and hear what Boris had to say. So, thank you.

[@jillbowden9628]

Hardly credible that Boris was so easily duped into apparently believing the lies about the plandemic and that he was unaware that he was overseeing the murder of the elderly in care homes and that he really believed the mRNA experimental gene therapy saved people when it has done and continues to do the opposite: myocarditis, neurological conditions and turbo cancers. I doubt he will ever say Sorry. But Judgement will catch up with him!

[@JoeBuza]

I made a mistake by reading comments before watching the interview. I expected Steven Bartlet to have been terrible, but it turns out he was actually amazing. He pushed Boris to answer, but the politician kept beating around the bush. Even when it came to his own personal story, he didn’t really have a cohesive narrative, despite having written a whole book. Anyway, great work Bartlet. With that said, learning about Boris’s past and how he grew up made me empathize with him

[@markusbanda]

wanker

[@simon2987]

Same here. Steven was simply trying to get him to be authentic & give normal answers to normal questions. Boris hides behind his bumbling persona and Steven just wasn’t letting that put him off his game. The difference between this and other DOAC interviews was Boris not Steven.

[@darrenlomax1283]

And that is the whole point of this interview. Everyone knows and wrong, even Bojo

[@RT-xb1gy]

Love Bojo!

[@Willcole-96]

I like how you use the word “politician” to refer to him!!!

[@deethompson3592]

Absolutely fantastic podcast Steve - Thank you for not letting Boris charm / bumble his way out of the questions 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏✨️❤️

[@kpaull01]

I see the opposite - you did a masterful job and are becoming a great journalist. You asked specific, insightful questions, rejected evasive answers, and shined a spotlight on Boris' humanity. I think that was your best interview ever.

[@ascarpenter]

It was masterful but I have never felt Steven be on such an offensive. It felt like an interrogation most of the time. Did this come from positioning or vindictiveness? As a long time American listener and fan I don’t understand what you have gone through under his former leadership, but I could certainly feel there was much more emotionally here than is typical. Much less empathy, respect and curiosity than is common in the guest-host relationship.

[@Rosebud100]

I wasn’t impressed by Steve’s interview at all!

[@ssuwandi3240]

Touche. He asked too many redundant questions. Esp Brexit. The left conviction that the politicians have used via multiculturalism bollox. Racial identifier doesn't work unilaterally like Green energy deal. Character vs physics..

[@lukesheppard6973]

@@ascarpenter That’s because thousands are dead because of him and the country is in tatters.

[@debbee18]

Well said. My sentiments exactly.​@@ascarpenter

[@oddowlstudio]

Boris is a top politician, incredible at not giving any answers except the ones that don't matter. Very good at saying whatever he has to say to gain favor (or a job), and showing absolutely no integrity. It's incredible that in this day and age people give their power away to these actors. Excellent Job Stephen for at least attempting to press him on certain issues.

[@VenomFT2000]

Does this interview just as his book is coming out. 'Oh we were going to invade Holland with the SAS!' Not even hyperbole.

[@stretfordender11]

The insecurity Stephan has shown or his team. He’s hidden the comments that’s criticised his interviewing style here. That was the vast majority of the comments and most liked comments as well.

[@vendettarising]

he avoided answering??

[@videosabia]

Steve DID pressed him for answers. If the guest continues to ignore the question that is how the guest is choosing to ANSWER it (deflection). I suppose it’s a polite way to avoid answering or maybe a defense mechanism, but either way Boris did answer. He did so by deflecting and that speaks volumes 😂

[@dannyarcher6370]

You think that COVID coming from a lab is an answer that doesn't matter? OK, bro. For those of us that were called racists and conspiracy theorists four years ago for merely suggesting it, I'd say it matters quite a lot.

[@geraldmcmullon2465]

Steve is the interviewer of all time. A master class of being well researched, allowing the interviewee to speak but not to duck the hard questions.

[@RA-yf4tk]

But not impartial.

[@baronvonhoughton]

He'd barely let Boris speak.

[@originalrbp2869]

Lol dude you need to watch more interviewers of you think Barlett is the best in the world lol

[@Mallchad]

He's kind of dim and asks a lot of boring poorly researched questions. As well as being just straight up disrespectful and interrogative sometimes. Why do you him such high praise? Do you just not know how to evaluate interviewers / personalities well or did you just not put much thought into it?

[@geraldmcmullon2465]

@@Mallchad because I have watched Bojo out perform the interviewer for years.

[@a.h3029]

Wow never expected Boris Johnson to be on here. Well done!

[@JimmyJimmyRiddle]

erm a book

[@voiletwhitehorse]

Your sucked in easy

[@flickthenick]

He's a narcisist, look at me!

[@bridgetwadane4392]

Can't wait for next week's Prince Andrew interview!

[@geolou5691]

He's selling a book, he'll prostitute himself for anyone with a big audience that'll give him air time.

[@dalimoremusic]

Once again we see why podcasts are the only way to find out about what a person is really like. Leaving space for people to reflect on questions is how you get closer to the truth and finally get a true reflection of what a person is really like. Both authenticity and spuriousness reveal themselves in unscripted conversations.

[@johnennis3542]

I’m not sure I’ve commented before so I should firstly say that I’ve really enjoyed many of Steven’s interviews. It might be an obvious thing to say but it’s strange how politics, above most other topics, brings out a different style of questioning and interview. There have been many interviews where Steven has been sympathetic to a guests opinion even if it’s one that was in direct conflict to another’s a few weeks earlier. It would have been great to have a more friendly, less Kuenssberg-like conversation to hear what life was like as Prime Minister during Brexit and Covid etc without the judgment etc we’ve already sat through and read about over the past few years. Whatever your opinion is of Boris Johnson I feel this was an opportunity missed. Having said that, I’m commenting on what is a truly excellent channel that has provided me with many, many hours of truly fascinating and engaging content that has benefited my life so keep up the good work!

[@alisoncarey9546]

Very well said. Completely agree

[@tsigeredaasfaw1437]

I completely agree. He was consistently enterupted and couldn’t finish his thoughts. Disappointed

[@CPerry-bu1ni]

Agreed. I was left with the impression Steve’s politics (presumably left wing) got in the way and his questioning style was cold and confrontational where as a warm and open style may have made this interview even more fascinating. I think Boris is very misunderstood and has a lot more depth than many realise. Steve could have got a lot more out of this if he could put aside his politics and obvious dislike of a Tory politician. A real shame. It felt disrespectful.

[@annagertsen5557]

That’s exactly what I was thinking! Stephen didn’t seem like himself in this interview. He’s usually so respectful and empathetic towards his guests, but this time you could sense a lack of respect right from the start. Really disappointing

[@emmalee2888]

I agree totally. I usually enjoy these interviews, even the super long ones. Steven usually allows his guests to open up and speak and he gets some great responses. This however I felt like Steven had his mind firmly set so didn't listen to anything Boris said. I was frustrated with the constant talking over Boris. Yes you don't want him to go all politician on you and swerve answering the questions, but you could have done that in a much more chilled way. I think if you hadn't of interviewed him with such an attack manner but 'befriended' him you would have got much more out of this interview. I think Boris was the winner in this interview.

[@Abundantanna1]

I love watching you knock it out of the park! THANK YOU for the riveting content. God bless you💗

[@jacksonmahr8915]

By far the best interviewer of Johnson. Other news outlets have a lot to learn from this.

[@Zantemakeup]

Bloody Nora I came to KZbin for afrobeats but this was first thing I saw when I opened. How can I not watch

[@cbcb102]

Steve's interviews are gripping. Always thought provoking and he asks really interesting questions. It's worth going through his past video's.

[@sat7408]

😂 brilliant

[@Zantemakeup]

@@cbcb102 I’ve seen them all

[@Applesonthelawn]

😂😂😂

[@charlottedanek973]

I was supposed to do a 10 min workout , thanks bartlett!! 😂

[@virginiagarner8436]

Congratulations on getting this interview Steven!! You’re a powerhouse!!

[@PGproductionsHD]

It’s not an interview

[@allybaapp1053]

Not an interview at all. Just some weak water chit chat to fill in some space.

[@moregoldmoregold]

Bit embarrasSing though. It’s not like Boris is anything but a parasite

[@bevturner2258]

Boris wanted to promote his book 😊

[@yinoveryang4246]

Yes the worst interruption was at 1:33 - Boris is being frank about peoples willingness to abandon their liberty, one of the linchpins of Western society, from a "Conservative" viewpoint. And he's interrupted because Steve believes it's more important to talk about his mother, focusing on some psychological profile - (Boris' level of sociopathy in other words). Bad moment, I feel this is Boris opening up about some of the biggest mistakes he made, he seems genuinely regretful.

[@atitiizogie]

To get Boris on😢 and not let him use his typical cunning to derail your goal... to probe, enquire, and get answers whilst also holding Boris accountable, is definitely to be applauded. Well done @Steve! 👏🏾

[@allybaapp1053]

You must be kidding.

[@GoalsOverLimits]

Show me your political views, without explicitly telling me

[@Vivi_9]

​@@GoalsOverLimitslol imagine backing Bozo

[@maritzaolivo1733]

Good Morning Britain, Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid waited forever for an interview like this.

[@lmaway8545]

They couldn't have led the conversation with a 10th of the brilliance and patience like Steven

[@azhassainia2492]

It's just about who pays more , Boris Johnson always look for who pays more.

[@fraserwebster8761]

Look up his interview with Eddie Mair, he was allowed to answer then.

[@AnnoyedOx-ly7uf]

@@fraserwebster8761 Eddie is of a different breed. He was my voice of reason in my daily commute in the car.

[@lsbfilmproductions]

Day time TV would NEVER do long form interviews

[@ashleydawson.holistic]

I have seen over 100 of Steven's episodes. I LOVE THIS CHANNEL. This is easily my favorite podcast channel. I must say, this is the FIRST AND ONLY interview he has done where I feel like he is GRILLING this man, & just looking to argue with him. I am a Canadian, and don't know much about England's politics, & I do understand the hostility that can fester. With that being said, I am a bit disappointed to see SO MUCH discontent coming from Steven, projected onto this human. I say this with love, and this was just my perception of the episode. Love DOAC :)

[@benn2946]

I agree. He was also discontent with Matt Hancock (worth a watch). Matt Hancock was the Health Secretary during COVID. I think Steven is a Labour supporter - and it's fashionable to bash the Conservatives.

[@ashleydawson.holistic]

@benn2946 I will take a watch! I haven't seen that one yet 😊 And I for sure understand everyone was deeply affected negatively during the lock downs. It just would have been nice to hear the man speak without any bias or subjectivity from Steven. Everyone has their story and perspective, and that's why I love this channel, because I love getting to know the guests who come on.

[@angelawilliamson6765]

Agree, 💯 I actually ended up liking Boris in this interview, as a UK citizen most other leaders and politicians just plainly lie to your face, you can you can often see that means side as well although they try to cover up, I don't see that with Boris, he has to be careful in his answers of course if we're in his position we would also be careful how we were to respond to controversial question because it affects not only him.

[@sarahberney]

Steven's "discontent" as you put it was 100% justified and representative

[@Humungojerry]

it’s an illusion. he’s actually allowed boris to control the narrative

[@davidpearceartprofile150]

Liked and subbed!

[@mariadelaart5897]

My daughter currently works as a special needs support teacher in London. They won’t give this staff positions permanent contracts. But employed via agencies. So during holidays she has to find alternative work or starve. Some children are violent daily. Yet the support teachers are still dedicated. Even though the pay is so low overall. Most have second jobs. There’s some new legislations and teachers are being sacked. Schools are underfunded And teachers. And support teachers deserve better pay. You really can’t compare it to good ole Eton!! These ppl have zero clue about the real world.

[@deancurson1345]

Boris is a character 🤣 can't help but like the lad. And to the host, great interview sir, keep up the good work

[@kaytu7216]

I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. I was not a Boris fan at all prior to this but your style of questioning brought out a side of him that left me better understanding his perspective and intrigued to learn more. He was much more open and less politician than I expected. Thank you.

[@valeriethompson3584]

@@kaytu7216 don't be fooled by the conman Johnson.

[@michellebarbour5777]

I felt that at the start. Then I thought, hold on a minute, in what way would it serve Boris Johnson to share some sad 'poor little rich boy' feelings now? Just when his book comes out? Just when there is no really credible leader for the Tory party? And why would he have chosen not to share his tough but sad little childhood 2/3/5 year's ago? Why now? And then I remembered - he IS a sad chap who is a millionaire, he IS unable to get on with most of his kids due to child hood trauma and he IS a liar who cares about no-one, absolutely no-one but himself, ever. Then I felt sorry for him but dismissed him, again.

[@Idpronf]

@@michellebarbour5777 he’s a con artist. It’s that simple.

[@lukesheppard6973]

Completely wrong take. He is scum.

[@oliverolover]

Brilliant interview, great job Stephen!

[@SeanDawson-i9i]

As a ‘leader’ you are allowed to make mistakes but you have to ‘own’ them and not be frightened to apologise. Taking responsibility and not blaming is a strength and without it you will be found out! Having a strong vision and communicating it ‘honestly’ is fundamental. Not having a vision or plan is unforgivable and you will be found out! No matter how skilled you think you are at ‘winging it’ or creating a ‘distraction’ with humour you will eventually be found out! Leadership is about ‘trust’ and when you lose that, you will never create the legacy that you think you should have…

[@leebp9106]

It is so painfully obvious that his complete failure to objectively recognise the impact his childhood had on his character is why he has no mechanism to show any contrition about literally anything

[@GerryT.]

It's amazing, idiots say he has charisma, he doesn't, he's a sociopath. Watch him in others company,especially young children, he's like a fish out of water.

[@goddamnbusiness7733]

@@GerryT.yet he elected. 8 yrs of mayor and 3 yrs of pm. People have spoken.

[@GerryT.]

@@goddamnbusiness7733 The people have spoken now, they despise Johnson.

[@JessicaPradoHanson]

This is why rich people were afraid to hear what regular people think and I just think of him reading these comments…. I hope he evolves from facing the truth and cares more about his impact on the world- starting with himself. But he might not be capable.

[@tomrado1687]

@@goddamnbusiness7733idiots and fools spoke up for him.

[@lottiejudd8334]

Wow what a guest! Steven you just keep raising the bar!

[@PhonkAttack4DX]

Next he's gonna be having kings and queens

[@bertiecurlynoodie]

Boris is flogging a book, he’ll go on any channel with 8m subs.

[@designbysynth]

Raising the bar is a bit of stretch when used in the context of Boris Johnson.

[@ClaireCelticMystic]

@@designbysynth raising the bar in terms of quality of interview, then! :)

[@lsf71]

Interview with the KING is next !

[@contactmaia]

I think you were totally on point. It never became about you. You just held him to focus. Really good thanks.

[@elevenvideos]

First Konstantin Kisin and now BORIS JOHNSON! Amazing, so here for it. Well done Steven for encouraging people from all political spectrums. More balance is required in conversation in today’s world. 👏🏼

[@yj9032]

Both are bleh 🤮

[@SOak145]

Both are poor examplea in their respective backgrounds, but it is what it is I suppose lol.

[@Secret19977]

@@SOak145bet your woke asf

[@SOak145]

@@Secret19977 I bet you're retarded as fuck with a retarded, copium response like that.

[@dropeter]

When you can do a better speech than Kisin you should feel free to judge

[@SaffaDave007]

It’s great to see independent media getting big interviews like this. Let the guest speak though. Just hope Steve didn’t email his notes over to Boris before hand.

[@Codie__]

Imagine someone telling you that they thought your personality was a parody 😂

[@thrilla72]

I'm glad he had the balls to say it to his face 😅

[@Truethar]

@@Mark.James.how is he fake?

[@mickdabz]

@@Mark.James. Shut up two first names were all fake to sum degree

[@thrilla72]

@@Mark.James. Elaborate

[@Glisten45]

Yeah. I thought Steven was being very rude there.

[@marzaak11]

Bravo Steven!!! That’s what it really means to speak truth to power, while still respecting differences in views and opinions. Much respect 🫡

[@dennisn7341]

Didn’t seem to flow as other interviews have. This seemed partly due to Boris being careful in his answers but it also felt like Stephen had an agenda to push and became unnecessarily confrontational at times and at other times losing patience, particularly towards the end. However always good to hear interesting guests.

[@equatorialjourney4478]

Good for Stephen …. Nowhere for that ******* Artful Dodger to hide today .

[@Chipoo88]

I personally feel the interviewer was hostile and intent on making things seem a certain way that Boris refuted, in particular trying to psycho analyze his childhood and generally not giving him a chance to finish his sentences. I’m not a Boris fan but fair is fair. Very poor interviewer performance, he came across as very immature

[@getuptogetdown918]

Exactly, this really turned me off the podcast. True we cant trust mainstream media, however podcasters are even more open to agenda pushing and corruption. This episode stank of something nasty. Not impressed.

[@vendettarising]

ten mins in and it's painful to watch an absolute fraud and a liar pretend he's normal and honest 😂 the high pitched "I don't know" and leaning In 😂

[@vendettarising]

​@@Chipoo88the old Boris bumboy ? Boris cannot be honest and open, he can't build solid relationships.....who refuses to say how many kids they've got???😂 the thing is an absolute joke, he's used to pre-arranged questions, prepared answers and the ability to waffle nonsense about Peppa pig world

[@thetomhfh]

This feels very different to the other relaxed, conversational, easy to listen to interviews that made this channel so successful. The advantage of longform is there's space for host and guest to hear each other. Here there wasn't.

[@tackytoya]

People DIED because of this man. I'm glad it wasn't an easy listen.

[@clararob9869]

This man got an easy ride for years when he was in power, if journalists had done their job and pushed back on him them maybe so many people didn't have to die during COVID. Plus he is only there to sell his book, the man is vile

[@RichardWadeUK]

Everyone else who's alive survived because of this man too ​@@tackytoya, including you and me.

[@donnadanielson3532]

Totally agree

[@donnadanielson3532]

I Agree with you

[@ferminromero2602]

Wow! Thanks to Boris for being open! Fantastic interview.

[@janetcutts7921]

@@ferminromero2602 Boris is a politician they are never ever open

[@LL-sc8gb]

Oh please

[@curtac1233]

Wouldn't call it open he hid from 3/4 of the questions

[@allybaapp1053]

Botted

[@spinynorman8217]

Not sure this was your best interview Steve butBoris answered your questions very well indeed.

[@sharifamohamed-e4q]

"Hey Steven, I appreciate the passion you bring to your discussions! You care deeply about the topics and the guests. I noticed that some of the questions seemed more intense, and I can see how emotions can sometimes take over in the heat of the moment. It's important to balance challenging questions with understanding, as it fosters more open dialogue. Your insights are valuable, and I hope we can see that side of you more in future episodes!"

[@madiemikaere353]

He is asking all the questions the British public wants answers to from what I can see. I say well done. These people need to be held to account for their decisions. There needs to be more of these types of conversations. You can’t glaze over et the fact that this person destroyed peoples development and their ability to be there for loved ones. Would you have the same energy if he were to interview hitler?

[@richardstainer6535]

​@@madiemikaere353Surely the point of the interview is to listen to the answers from the guest. You might not like the answers and you might have a follow up or want to reword a question if you think he wasn't directly answered but at least let the man finish first. I want to hear what he has to say whether I agree with it or not and whether I like the answer or not.

[@fortheanimals8729]

I have watched a lot of DOAC and experienced Boris as my mayor, on TV and on PM. I began to dislike the guy a lot as PM because of the seemingly endless lies and taking a political standpoint for self-interest. Stephen's challenging interview has let me see a different side to Boris and helped to humanise him. Ok, he had to push Boris sometimes when he lets other guests roll but Boris is a very experienced politician who is an expert at answering a question that is very similar to what you asked but avoids it. He experiences far more confrontational interviews and interuptions on mainstream media outlets - it was refresing to have him be able to ramble on a bit more. My view is a lot of these comments are blindly pro-Boris and probably due to the immediate emotional reaction some people still give around Brexit - over 8 years ago! Great work and thank you.

[@FreeWhilly734]

Just the same old Boris just waffles on without saying yes or no. After two hours the only thing I've learnt is he's got a book out. Please find me a moment he just answers a straight yes or no. I really do wish he'd be honest with people and say yes I had dinner with my wife in the garden and for some reason people called it a party. Boils my blood that he is still even outside of having power he still tries to please everyone.

[@michellebarbour5777]

I felt this at first. Had to pause the video and ask myself - when we meet liars, when and why do they suddenly 'share their feelings'? ...well, he WAS a sad little rich boy but he also a toatl liar who could have share this 2 years ago. Why now? Just when his book comes out? Just when he wants to run for PM again in 4 year's time? Nope, I thought, he's a gamer, don't be fooled again.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Brexit was THREE YEARS AGO, not eight 🎱. 🇫🇷🇪🇺

[@fortheanimals8729]

@@andrewrobinson2565 Techincally yes, but you know what I meant. I think there is a vociferous minority on both sides that will drag it on forever. For the majority they decided 8 years ago and had more to worry about in their day to day lives. Taking your point further I think we are in a bit of a slapdash limbo between Brexit and independence with many things still unresolved and pushed into the long grass because they will cost the UK more. So I think it's a long way from being completed. It's all a bit of a mess and seems to have pleased very few. One day hopefully we can all draw a line under it and us and the EU move forward. I don't think your use of all caps was neccessary by the way, felt like you're shouting at me.

[@julianshalders6047]

Australian prime minister Paul Keating left school aged fourteen, worked at his father's fabrication business making concrete mixing bowels for trucks. Joined the Labor party at age twenty, became a minister in the whitlam government at age twenty five. The hawke Labor government was elected in 1980, Paul Keating was appointed treasurer, Bob hawke eventually handed the reins over to Paul Keating to become P.M in the early 90's aged fifty yrs. Paul Keating was one of the greatest prime ministers of Australia and the point is you don't have to be privately educated at a snobbish university like eton to become a great prime minister 👍. Paul Keating devoted his life to the Australian people, especially the middle class and aboriginals. Paul's speeches are legendary, makes Boris look like an over educated egotistical stooge.

[@confidetialmatter4290]

I’m from Ethiopia & in a small town! Your show is so educational & at the same time entertaining! Wow! Thank you for showing Boris’s side of the story…I didn’t know he can be genuine

[@brainsandbeauty2832]

I like your comment but I just want to point out that being genuine does not mean effective leadership. Britain is becoming a poor country because of these charismatic politicians. True leadership requires strategic decision making and generating a vision and having the strength to carry it through

[@Uamaretwot]

🤣

[@confidetialmatter4290]

@@brainsandbeauty2832 Tnx. May be lost in the translation. Genuine meant in my context Boris had ball to come forward for interview. Look person like David Cameron & Nick Clegg the mess they both did to the British public & hiding!

[@vickishaw8437]

Thank you Steve for being able to get Boris on and get to have a frank conversation. What I like about most of your interviews is that you are quite balanced in your approach and questions. I was a little disappointed that you seemed quite biased with some of your stats and questioning which prevented a few other great conversation points that could have been covered. It might be worth looking at things outside of London which I find can sometime be in its own bubble. Otherwise thank you for your channel there’s a great variety of people of topics 😊

[@teaformulamaths]

@33:00 I can corroborate this entirely. When I was Deputy head of Maths in UK, we had 6 Maths teachers missing and replaced with cover every day for a whole year - I had to plan these 120 lessons a week myself on top of my own, for non-experts so fully annotated and self guided work. The head of department had a heart attack so it was just me. The academy program had a primary school specialist as their academy chain, and they didn't have a clue. I always said I should write a book about the things that happened there. The lawsuits, the attacks, the money laundering, the corruption and bullying from leadership. Many times, teachers covering would be stuck in a chaotic environment with their head buried in the sand, asking for help and walking out. I had to teach multiple lessons at the same time, because I couldn't leave a group unsupervised. I had been told that some students didn't see a teacher all day, they turned up expecting a supply teacher who never showed and they would go home after sitting around all day. Life goes on, OFSTED never knew.

[@Shine_a_Light2024]

Ex teacher here. I can absolutely believe this.

[@KamilahKamilah3]

WRITE. THE. BOOK!!!

[@thepeacefulmumma7055]

Home Ed is best.

[@Shine_a_Light2024]

@@thepeacefulmumma7055 I believe that this is the best option in current times

[@simonhughes7382]

As a previous HoD in Science. I have experienced the same. I left after 10 years having become jaded and seen how sad the broken education system had become.

[@benrogers8310]

I feel like a great opportunity was missed to talk and discuss about the inner workings of politics within the UK. Steve, as a entrepreneur, surely has an interest in systems and processes, the way things operate and work, however it came across that Steve was pushing his own agenda, whereby I can only presume to try and get viral short form content from Borris, instead of a quality discussion on the procurement of politics and being a prime minister. I dislike Steve's consistent move of always pushing his guests for childhood trama.

[@JD_London]

Of course hes pushing an agenda it's his channel and his conversation... what a dumb comment; hes not a journalist for the BBC

[@ghost_lukh]

It's his podcast and I think he can structure it as he sees fit. Also his guests are adults and well accomplished in their own right, they can decline to comment or answer if they feel like it

[@newbeginnings-r5b]

Wow, what an episode. Thank you as always! I think Boris Johnson is definitely someone who splits a lot of opinion, in relation to some of the decisions he made when he was Prime Minister. However, after everything is said and done, he is just human, like all of us. I think he has gone through a lot as a person (especially in his childhood) and has tried to overcome his challenges as best as he could. I think that from a distance, it may be easy to want to judge a person, but when we take closer look their journey, then we realise they are only human after all. I'm honestly not a fan of politics in general, but I think it says a lot about a person's character, to be able to go through so many challenges as a child and still want to make a positive impact in other people's lives. I definitely have a lot more empathy and respect for them. ❤

[@1Thedairy]

I agree with you 100%

[@janetcutts7921]

@@newbeginnings-r5b stop making excuses he was prime minister not the local MP having a bad day nobody held him to account until today well done Stephan

[@andyhx]

​@@janetcutts7921what are you talking about? The country and his own party held him to account and forced him out of office in disgrace. If that's not being held to account, what is? 100's more should have been sacked along with him, especially in Whitehall but as usual, they get to keep their jobs, the snakes.

[@sandrajohnston1785]

BJ knew exactly what he was doing. It was an exercise in population control and too many fell for it and toed the line. And still are. He’s a WEF puppet and proud of it.

[@jamborino2940]

Positive impact? Boris Johnson is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of elderly people, he is responsible for fuelling one of the biggest transfers of wealth to billionaires in the history of politics and he is responsible for enabling corruption on a mass scale. It boggles my mind that people listen to the absolute lies flowing from his mouth which is extremely carefully curated by him and buy into it. The guy is a compulsive liar, compulsive cheat and ultimately a compulsive scumbag.

[@lauras_youtube4]

Thank you for this interview , he really sweated with the questions you asked , his very careful with how he answers but you made him sweat he doesn't seem to want to take responsibility for his screw ups . You asked the right questions which is rare for interviewers. Thank you for that great interview .

[@adm58]

Very impressive guest. I must say that, any politician, whatever I think of them in terms of policy etc, who agrees to this type of long-form unrestricted interview, is way more deserving some respect than any who don't. Such discussions are the only way to get beyond the controlled presentation to see something of the real individual. Warts and all is good. I don't expect saints as leaders.

[@janice68329]

Agreed! It's quite brave to put oneself in that position.

[@adm58]

@@ffl2000 yes, but, whatever their motivations, they do inevitably let us learn about who they are. As I said, I want to know who the real individual is, warts and all. What I don't want is to have only a front presented with all words carefully scripted with the intention of hiding anything potentially negative. The latter is basically deception. I'd argue the same about the use of speech writers, which is very common now.

[@OGPatriot03]

@@ffl2000 Trump is great though, bad example..

[@primem1]

Well said!

[@matchboxoffice1989]

I might agree if he wasn’t on purely to blatantly sell his book. Diary of a CEO has a massive fanbase, which BoJo hopes will result in more sales. That’s the ONLY reason he ‘bravely’ took the interview.

[@shanecook9653]

Stephen, as someone who went to a UK 'comprehensive' school I can not say I noticed funding shortages all those years ago. However, one thing that was clear, the desire to make everyone 'the same', was a design failure. Not everyone is going to be brilliant at everything. When I left at 16, only at an FE college could I specialise in the subject I liked, and went from middle grades to top grades. It threw away the subjects which I was bored in, much like you, and allowed me to focus on what I wanted to do in life. On the point of public schools. I left the UK 20 years ago and moved to Germany, as the UK government let the industrial base collapse, so my software development role was outsourced to India. Germany was still, at that time, a place where they needed engineers. I wanted the option to return to the UK. At the same time, I very much saw foreign kids did poorly in the German system. They insist everyone does very well in all subjects. There is no concept of specialisation to the exclusion of subjects which will be of little (practical) future value. If you do not have at least one German parent, your kid will never pass the mandatory A-Level in German needed for German university. Consequently, I sent my daughter to a private, international school, following the British/American schooling model. Funding per student was 17-26K euros per student, around 80% of which is paid by parents. I read (explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/school-funding-statistics) funding per UK student in the state system at 7690 GBP per student. At an average of 22K euros, that's 18.5 GPB per child, or 2.4 times the amount of the UK state system. Is it suprising it's somewhat different at state schools, with the teacher running between classes? I noticed the private system is radically different. Lots of time to spend with each child (max. 20 kids/teacher), huge scope of activities, huge array of facilities, drama, music, developing independence. However, would we actually double the spending on education? I have friends with no children who think they should not have to pay taxes for other people's kids. Never mind they will one day be nurses or doctors they might need. We should be investing in kids future, rather than the short term view we see from government. If we are short 10,000 people for X, then 2000 people per year (+/- adjusting for those retiring) for 5 years and we move towards a solution. If we can't get 2K people per year, then the salary/job conditions/prospects suck so we need to make the role more attractive.

[@TraceyHenderson-ys2iq]

Biggest problem in UK schools now is unruly children. That’s why teachers are leaving in droves.

[@christopheradderley6902]

@@TraceyHenderson-ys2iqthat’s a major problem too - but it’s a lot of work with a large class size!

[@dylanevans16]

@@TraceyHenderson-ys2iqcorrect. I work in a comprehensive school and honestly, pupils are getting worse.

[@martynbeaumont1100]

How do you know that? That is not the biggest problem in the schools.

[@TraceyHenderson-ys2iq]

@@martynbeaumont1100 I work with exteachers

[@juliewillard1367]

I feel Steve that you clearly are not a fan of Boris. I lost my dad and my sister to Covid. I could not see either of them in the hospital. I work in the NHS and worked all through Covid. I never missed a day of work during 2020/21. I don’t blame the government for what happened. This was an unprecedented situation. The government made lots of mistakes during this time it was a horrendous time. A time I will never forget. I personally did not have time to grieve the loss of my family due to work and there has been fallout personally for me. However Boris nearly died himself. I wish you had spoken to him more about that. I read he was to scared to go to sleep because he thought he might die. I cannot imagine the pressure he was under at that time. He was not perfect and he made mistakes, terrible decisions at times but I cannot imagine Corbyn having the strength to take us through that time. Boris was the best of a bad bunch but I think he did the best at the time with the information he was given. I think you didn’t give him any credit for that. I am a big fan of yours but your anger towards Boris on certain issues showed.

[@kjeksklaus7944]

I don’t blame the government for what happened. you absolutely should do, it wasn't unprecedented. Our entire government modelled a coronavirus pandemic 5 years before we got it. From the BMJ (British Medical Journal) Boris is the architect of making it up as he went along to ensure public money could be funnelled to donors and friends through government contracts. The pressure he was under? He was the leader of the united kingdom, staying level headed and calm under pressure was his job. It's literally a British slogan, keep calm and carry on. Corbyn would have made completely different decisions who knows if they would be better or worse, but we would have also had a democratic vote on Brexit which would have made us be able to focus more on not the political point scoring of our government politicians tweeting that we were first with the vaccine when we weren't and rushing the vaccine through to appear first without due testing should have been a criminal offence. This interview should be from a jail cell not a comfy chair at DOAC HQ. The UK government modelled a coronavirus pandemic five years ago but kept the fact secret from parliament, a campaigning doctor has discovered through a Freedom of Information Act request. A list released by Public Health England shows for the first time that 11 pandemic and epidemic preparedness exercises were carried out between 2015 and 2019. They included Exercise Alice, which in 2016 tested the country’s readiness to cope with Middle East respiratory syndrome, caused by a coronavirus. Moosa Qureshi, an NHS consultant haematologist, has been waging a legal battle for transparency since the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic broke out in early 2020.12 His efforts led to the disclosure that the government had modelled an influenza pandemic in Exercise Cygnus in 2016,3 but the existence of the other exercises has only now come to light. Apart from influenza and MERS, the other exercises modelled outbreaks of avian flu, Ebola virus disease, and Lassa fever. Public Health England initially refused to answer his request for information on other modelling exercises on the grounds of national security. It was only after Qureshi asked for the decision to be reviewed that the list was released. A government that tries to hide information, a government that funnelled billions to friends and donors, a government that lied at every opportunity.

[@erikERXON]

it wasnt mistakes, but they got what they needed - a sheepl like you. keep serving, until you are replaced.

[@Sebpz8342]

You believed he had covid?

[@NeilBarratt]

I think he would have made a big deal about it had he honestly been close to death. So would the MSM.

[@cameronclarkhull]

I also work for the NHS. Boris skipped 5 cobra meetings... not just one or two, five! He made it up as he went along. And having piss ups during lockdown. PPE weren't introduced 4 months into the pandemic, the majority didnt work... over 30 billion wasted in a test and trace system which didn't work. He lied to the queen. The government didn't start covid, but they definitely made every single decision too late

[@mb172]

Asking the Qs we would all love to ask and saying the home truths we would dearly love to say. Well done Steven

[@ElaineWalker]

It’s like you’re mirroring his fast speech. I wish you would have just been your normal calm self. It was too much.. like you were trying to stir him up on purpose. I kept checking if I had it on double speed. I made it to the end only because I really wanted to get a better sense of his character. But my brain just feels jumbled from all the interruptions.

[@PastorShayne]

Agreed; bias confirmation interview.

[@theartboxprints]

Agree

[@theartboxprints]

The Worst interview Steve made

[@barkinmad2296]

Yes, this wasn’t Steven’s finest piece of work. I was really looking forward to this and it just flipped from one thing to another then back again. A real muddle to be honest.

[@rollyon9415]

I would suggest Boris’ speed of thought was the problem, Steven wasn’t able to keep up. I think he really only heard half of what Boris was expressing. I remember Paxman interviewing Johnson and they couldn’t help smiling because they were both picking up on subtexts of expression that take at the least life experience to comprehend even in passing.

[@mahmoudiehmahmoudieh7238]

You did, as always, an amazing job, Steve. Boris avoided your questions, but you nailed him. The best phrase you used was about leading by example, which is unknown territory for Boris. Your analogy about how you act in business as a successful entrepreneur was brilliant. The two of you could not be further apart in terms of morals and values in life. This was just a continuous example of what “Borisnism” is about. The only regret Boris had was apologizing, as it made him open to more criticism. Nothing else to add-a confirmation of the naked reality of a flawed character!

[@Anaieta]

I think we saw a different personality of Steve on this episode, he normally listens more but in this episode there was a constant interruption, I didn’t understand most of the points the guest was trying to make. I genuinely love the show and Steve as the host but thsi one just felt different. the guest probably regretted coming on the show

[@allroundolie404]

totally agree ! 💯 love DoCE and Steve but this felt so different and honestly not a fan of Boris . Really didn’t like Steve approach at all - that approach needs work - only Rogan does this style well - sorry steve 😊

[@allybaapp1053]

And the viewers are regretting sitting through it .

[@johnjenkins9316]

The guest is responsible for many deaths

[@Sourcing.Partners]

I see your comment at the top of this Steven. I thought your style was needed for the interview. Boris had little self awareness and was dancing around your questions. Good work and I’d like to see more of this with certain guests!

[@Sebastian-bp8hu]

Oh my god. My friend you are doing huge leaps towards the number one in-the-know on the planet.

[@marcusmarchesi1966]

Boris tackling the little kid in Japan: Boris: 'He was a lot older than he looks' I'm stll laughing...

[@harrystrachan7267]

Me too 😂😂😂

[@lynnoorman2144]

Well done, Steven!, A more in-depth and unswerving interview of a man ( who is more slippery than a hag fish - go look them up) I have never seen. I think your calm but perceptive interviewing style is just brilliant! You also, in this instance represented the 'common man' with great dignity. He was like a worm on a hook and it showed. And he wanted a prize at the end and you were having none of it.Awesome!

[@slh35661]

Great interview. Maybe you were tough, but it was a breath of fresh air to hear directly what he felt. Overall I felt the interview was very respectful and revealed more of his personality than I had expected.

[@Steven-lq9gy]

Incredible that his only regret is that he apologised. Incredible

[@SuperBartles]

Misrepresentation. As an observation, if you want to criticise someone, it's probably best to make it truthful.

[@cherylnye5963]

😮😮😮 omg gasps at so many times im currently one hour in and omg, amazing job steven for articulation of questions, this interview really highlights Stevens skills at keeping questions on track with someone who is used to diverting

[@suzyroeder7891]

61 year old moderate from the US. Fantastic interview., Steven. Can you try to interview Donald Trump, Kamala Harris and JD Vance? You are so honest, unafraid and congenial. I bought the end-of-interview question cards. Brilliant idea.

[@paulasutcliffe8180]

Steve.... Well done you ... I think you have done ..yet again... A fantastic job 😊

[@angelawilliamson6765]

I wasn't expecting to like Boris in this interview, but when I compare him to our past & current leader plus their cabinet he actually comes across a bit more sincere and a decent human being overall. I've always been a labour voter but when labour semi privatised the NHS and took us to war in Iraq, it became more clear we are a proxy to the USA government. I started to realise they're all cut with the same cloth but I actually think starmer could be similar to Cameron and be worse than Boris for sure. If the leader of the Labour party was Jeremy Corbyn I'd have some trust, I certainly don't think Boris was the worst!!

[@leviathon2]

Johnson’s decisions have made everyone’s lives harder. Never forget that. He knows that but no contrition. I can’t stand him.

[@peterjensen3076]

Most of us would know that Boris has been badly raised. Like many of the disturbed. The most remarkable is that an interviewer could stand this conversation in almost two hours. He must have been on something.

[@odette8905]

Regarding the covid response, it's clear that Sweden's response was the right one.

[@XavierJAlexander]

They had more deaths per capita than us, so no. You’re wrong.

[@Zirda]

@@XavierJAlexander www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10399217/ "However, the available data on excess all-cause mortality rates indicate that Sweden experienced fewer deaths per population unit during the pandemic (2020-2022) than most high-income countries and was comparable to neighboring Nordic countries through the pandemic."

[@odette8905]

​@@XavierJAlexander They lost a lot of elderly in the care homes as did other countries but their overall death rates were no more than lockdown countries.

[@susysamalex]

The response from all sides was very much using a lump hammer to crack a nut. After the first month where it was obvious that it wasn’t going to be the next plague, it should have been treated like a mild flu. Which it was, once you take away the deaths of the vulnerable with comorbidities who didn’t get ivermectin and the elderly that were given medazolam

[@tedcrilly46]

We have people in the comments saying that it was a bio-weapon on one hand. ... and then saying vaccination was bad on the other.

[@JasS19362]

Great interview - the difference between this and the usual softball interviewers of mainstream media is stark. And the regular interruptions were handled very well!

[@simosg1991]

Steve is the most smooth brained interviewer I have ever witnessed. He literally resorts to pseudo psychology and very surface level comments that fail to capture anything interesting

[@laurakosch]

1:03:36 Bam!! Excellent insight Steven We are being run by the old boys club of Eaton, not those qualified for the job.

[@lj86johnson24]

Normally Steven does an excellent job of achieving close to impartiality. As always, he did an excellent job of asking intelligent, probing questions and giving Boris space and time to respond (which many mainstream interviewers don't), but of all the DOACEO content i've watched, I felt his personal stance was most evident (by some way) during this exchange.

[@MrQuadcity]

**Key Takeaways:** 1. **Regrets Over COVID-19 Lockdown Policies and Party Allegations**: - Boris Johnson expressed regret for the mishandling of lockdown rules and public perception during the "Partygate" scandal. He apologized for the gatherings at 10 Downing Street that occurred while the public was under strict COVID-19 restrictions. - Johnson reflected on the broader impact of lockdown policies, questioning if their benefits outweighed the damages, especially for children’s education and overall well-being. 2. **COVID-19 Pandemic Origins and Government Handling**: - Johnson suggested that the COVID-19 virus likely originated from a lab accident in Wuhan, an idea initially dismissed as conspiracy but now widely discussed. He speculated that scientists were engineering the virus for research purposes, and it accidentally escaped. - He touched on the uncertainties the government faced in the early days of the pandemic, acknowledging how information from experts was often conflicting, contributing to delayed decisions on lockdowns. 3. **Political Dynamics and Brexit**: - Johnson shared insights into political deals, notably mentioning that David Cameron had offered him a top cabinet position if he supported the Remain campaign. This was used as an example of how political incentives often shape decision-making in the government. - On Brexit, Johnson recalled his internal conflict over whether to support Leave or Remain, mentioning a never-published pro-Remain letter. He highlighted Brexit’s goal of national sovereignty and expressed pride in the UK’s faster vaccine rollout compared to Europe. 4. **Reflection on Personal Life and Public Persona**: - Johnson discussed his upbringing, emphasizing the competition between him and his siblings, his mother's struggle with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), and the impact of his parents' divorce on his emotional development. - He addressed his public persona, which some consider "buffoonish," clarifying that his comedic approach in public life was intended to make serious arguments more accessible to people. He denied living in a calculated, performative persona. 5. **Social Imbalance in the UK and Efforts to "Level Up"**: - Johnson pointed out the class imbalance in the UK, notably the dominance of Eton-educated individuals in high-level positions, including Prime Ministers. He advocated for the need to spread opportunities more widely to individuals from diverse backgrounds, comparing the UK’s potential to that of other European countries. - He discussed his efforts to address this imbalance during his time as Mayor of London, where he focused on improving education and infrastructure to help lift disadvantaged communities. 6. **Party Allegations and Media Scrutiny**: - Johnson recounted the fallout from the "Partygate" scandal, expressing that while there were moments of informal gatherings, they were misrepresented. He lamented that media portrayal led to a widespread belief in the allegations before all facts were established, contributing to public outrage. - He shared his frustration over the blanket apology, which seemed to validate even false allegations. 7. **Mental Toll of Leadership During the Pandemic**: - Leading the country through COVID-19 took a significant mental toll on Johnson. He reflected on the challenges of making difficult decisions, particularly around lockdowns and pandemic response, and how the prospect of the vaccine helped boost morale. 8. **Future Outlook**: - While Johnson remains undecided about his future in politics, he expressed a desire to live a quieter life in the countryside, focusing on personal hobbies like painting. He discussed his post-political life, highlighting the challenges and successes of his time in office, particularly regarding Brexit and the pandemic. ### Conclusion: Boris Johnson's reflections cover a wide array of topics, from the internal dilemmas of Brexit to the complexities of managing a pandemic and the personal challenges of leading the UK during a time of crisis. His statements offer insights into the political maneuvers behind major decisions, his struggle with public image, and his thoughts on the imbalances within the UK's social structure. His regrets over "Partygate" and skepticism about lockdowns emphasize the weight of leadership during unprecedented times. While Johnson's political career has been marked by significant achievements, it has also been fraught with controversy, a balance he continues to navigate as he considers his next steps outside the spotlight.

[@user-zz9gn2dc3l]

Thanks won't bother watching it now 👍

[@jennyverano5576]

Thank you. I rather reading your summary than watching the interview 😅

[@rksabz]

Does anyone care enough about some random person on the internets opinion is they are willing to read a novel of a comment

[@SuperBartles]

@@jennyverano5576 Probably best to actually listen to what he says (or tries to say, before being interrupted)

[@m.a.gallardo2050]

Thank you for the useful summary! However, I believe going through the whole video is the best option for all the insights. Just as one example, when addressing Steven's questions about the COVID era, it's important to highlight his blind spots and lack of nuance when questioning Boris. This means that both questions and answers are biased and tainted and contribute to promoting the misguided UK response. As a consequence, we don't gain valuable and varied insights from the experience, leaving us all vulnerable to repeating the same deadly mistakes in the future (lockdowns, masking, a one-fits all approach, keeping people away from the sun, fresh air, fomenting bad health, no repurposed drugs, etc.). If Steven reads up on the Swedish experience, he'll notice this. The summary will not help us determine this weakness in Steven's opinion/questions/interviews going forward.

[@HK-qd5ou]

... had my full attention! Brilliant Interview!

[@shousper_]

Bro that was paaaaaiiiiinnnnfullll. I won't be watching anymore interviews with politicians 😂

[@zerodivisionerror]

I don't think we will see more interviews like this one, now that we see he cannot keep his cool with those he doesn't like.

[@LeadGeneration-ml5du]

We have to remember Boris never actually wanted to go into lockdown .. remember that he was all for heard immunity and every time I switched on the news to hear one of his announcements about lockdown he looked incredibly uncomfortable as if a gun was being pointed to his head to say the bs figures he was saying. I’m not sticking up for him at all as a politician he is exactly that.. but I think he just fell for the corruption and the powers that be maybe threatening him.. remember… The prime minster and the president don’t actually run the country.

[@_Lord_of_Misrule_]

Yes, thank you. Boris Johnson, like any politician, doesn't exist in a vacuum. The world is far more complicated than that.

[@82Hypno]

🤡

[@markmiller5577]

Let's pretend it was a real thing....radio 4 announced a few months ago ...the lockdowns helped achieve the climate targets

[@theregolfer9721]

Also remember that herd immunity in the modern world REQUIRES vaccination, and until that was possible, isolation was required while the herd wasn’t immune or vaccinated.

[@LeadGeneration-ml5du]

@@theregolfer9721. I take your point but have you ever considered the fact that a lot of people despite not being vaccinated are ok due to a strong natural immunity.. If you’re a fan of DOACEO please watch Aseem Maholtras interview.. not only is he a immunologist but he was also fully invested in the vaccine as the answer.. like so many people were. You getting your chicken pox vaccine doesn’t actually impact on me getting chicken pox or not.. in fact back in the day the pox party was the reason most people became immune to chicken pox and had a strong resistance.. also vaccines should have 10 plus years of testing not immediate roll out.. I hear you and I respect your opinion as we all have our thoughts and indeed our experiences and I cannot deny your freedom to say your truth .. I appreciate your comment, just presenting another lived and experienced view.

[@taylorsmall2280]

Steven, fascinating how abundantly you let your guard down and let show your raw emotions at times during this exchange.

[@sarahhudleston832]

Really good interview!

[@LAlala-vd9sb]

Boris handled the “mean” brutal questions well

[@amriktatla]

Was not expecting this Steve!!!

[@franklin23451]

I have to agree with others, I was frustrated with the constant disruptions when Boris was actually talking. I wanted to get insight into him as a person through his answers but he never got to finish them.

[@TheBudwix]

That constant muffling was hardly ever going anywhere…

[@Thomasccanada]

Boris talking is like a fart - thats why Steven interrupts and continues on

[@Aerojuanas]

Great interview. Well done! 👏

[@liam_2208]

Great interview. Boris could have been an excellent prime minister if he stuck to his values. What might’ve been.

[@dkmphotography_co_uk]

@@liam_2208 what values?? The man's a political wind sock, the very definition of a populist.

[@IsSalty]

His values? Multiple affairs, hidden children, losing his job at a newspaper for literally faking a quote to damage someone, lied to the Conservative Party about his affair scandals, Lying to the country about Dominic Cummings during lockdown, Lied about Ppe contracts being public information when most of the most obviously corrupt ones were kept private from the tax payer. Lied about having parties when they were literally ON VIDEO being admitted, Lied about his Brexit deal, lied about Brexit itself. Threatened to beat up a journalist to silence him. What values are you talking about exactly?

[@NoLefTurnUnStoned.]

His values revolve around self interest.

[@merkuree]

The only thing Boris values is himself

[@YouknowwhereHughgo]

Bloody hell, you bagged the big boy on your podcast

[@2791dles]

Whether you agree with the man or not, or respect him or not, it did the interview no justice to constantly cut him off.

[@benjisnowman2065]

@@2791dles so he was supposed to let him just derail the interview and continue down a tangent? I think its fair enough to stop him to keep him on topic

[@tomw6947]

​@benjisnowman2065 100% agree, all politicians try this to distract you and take your focus away from the question they're struggling to answer.

[@2791dles]

@@benjisnowman2065 I think you feel it's an all or nothing proposition ie you either let Boris run off unchecked or you have Steven trample all over it. A more skilled experienced interviewer could have gotten the balance right is all I'm saying. I guess in very long form platforms you can allow for more skill from the interviewer to get what he/she needs without becoming the vocal point of proceedings, without seeming flustered and jagged.

[@andydixon2980]

Boris is the master of evasion. If Stephen hadn't of interjected when Boris starts rambling nonsense then the interview would of dragged on for 4hrs or more.

[@marynagaraeva505]

You nailed it Steven! Tough questions on therapy session, a lot of interruptions and your judgment during conversation.Just feel that you didn't give the time to Boris for his responses. Anyway Thank you Boris and Steven!👏👏🔥🔥

[@TheBling14]

What a great show this is now! Well done on getting Boris to your platform 👏👏👏. I really liked your style and ‘control’ on the full conversation. It’s not easy to speak to politicians who are obviously and far - greater speakers .