Behold the Navy's Most NAUSEATING Training Sortie

[@fightingtwozeroone]

Signature move...never gets old!

[@phantomf4747]

100%, When I adjust in the seat of my truck using the side handle, I laugh saying "signature move". 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lancet.346]

Cracks me up!

[@kennethward9530]

Nice of the Navy to give him a custom grab bar

[@ajchenmph]

@@phantomf4747- Ha, I thought it was just me!! 🤪

[@mikecrim5292]

It's how we train drs

[@oldgoat142]

Pail, Sir, what I said before about you being a teacher is proven by this video. That's the voice of a teacher, not just an instructor. What should be an unsettling maneuver even for an experienced aviator was walked through so calmly that even somebody with very limited experience and a rudimentary knowledge of the cockpit might just be able to pull that off. Hats off to you. Fly Navy!

[@GrowlerJams]

Fly Navy!

[@EdMurphy13]

honestly he makes it look so easy i feel like i could do it and i have never even piloted a real plane.

[@Sidetrackification]

I'd only wonder how many times you had to ask the student. What the hell did you eat today?

[@Andrew-13579]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@EdMurphy13That one looks pretty easy, I think I could do it. It’s things above 3 G’s that would get me. 😆. That and flying the wheels onto a carrier deck without Growler in the back seat. 😬

[@KBFM2564]

Thank you for not putting any music in that and just letting us experience it with you as it happened. Awesome!

[@nonamesthesame]

I turned white from my stomach during stall/spin/recovery. Always took about an hour to get my color back. I'm grounded from brain injury but flying vicariously through these videos.

[@jimchesnutt7879]

I've only flown a C172 but I loved the recovery exercises. Knowing it CAN recover from unusual attitudes gave a lot of confidence, and my instructors drilled that a lot.

[@jpdunamislodge]

My Sim parter when I got my BE300 Type Rating at Simuflight DFW was a Navy King Air instructor out of Corpus. I had been flying for food for almost 8 years single pilot 135 twin piston and twin turbine freight at that time. They threw everything at us that they could throw at us every sim session and we never crashed. There would be two or three instructors at a time in the sim trying to take us out every session. 😂 I got my ATP and a Single Pilot Endorsement on that check ride. Best pilot I had ever flown with and our CRM was extraordinary. We just clicked. What an honor it was flying together with that guy. He told me after the check ride that I was the best sick that he’d ever flown with and that I would have made an outstanding military pilot. I took that as a huge compliment considering who all he had flown with over his career. I knew I had earned my ATP the hard way and that was one of the proudest days of my flying career. I had spent 4 years Haze grey and underway aboard the USS JFK CV67 December 1981 - April 1985 Ships Company V4 Division wearing purple shirts. I always respected you guys and wanted to “grow up to be like you guys”. Now I’m retired with right at 22,800 hours PIC. I had prayed and asked God to be a pilot multiple times while crouched down in the catwalk with a fuel nozzle draped over my shoulder. He answered my prayers and gave me my hearts desire. Glory, credit, and praise be to God and His Son Jesus Christ for keeping me safe, proving everything that I need, and for blessing me with a great flying career. Praying the same for you Sir. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@GrowlerJams]

TYFYS.

[@Emlizardo]

We have "departed controlled flight." Love the military's euphemisms.

[@marshallc6215]

It's on par with "engine-rich exhaust" for my favorite flight euphemisms 😂

[@JohnVanderbeck]

The Navy especially loves to give everything incredibly technical terms even above and beyond everyone else haha.

[@ninjalectualx]

That's not a euphemism, it's literally what's happening

[@marshallc6215]

@@ninjalectualx ... that's what a euphemism *is.*

[@justinpaoli]

I would practice this constantly to lose that panic feeling when you drop as much possible. Familiarization is key controlling impulse and panic

[@EdwardTBurke-pv3qr]

Don't be a JFK Jr. with minimal flying experience, finding himself in a death spiral and experiencing a few G's for the very first time.

[@daffidavit]

@@EdwardTBurke-pv3qr Too bad he didn't turn on the autopilot as he was getting disoriented. That really bothers me.

[@EdwardTBurke-pv3qr]

@@daffidavit He had recently bought the twin turboprop and I don’t know whether the aircraft had an autopilot capability. My cousin, one generation removed, for two years worked closely with his sister at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC as assistants to the Director. Caroline said to her: “pothead since 13, and now he’s into coke.”

[@wiseoldman5841]

Watched a report that was very informative about the crash. He was constantly changing flight instructors due to his schedule. No consistency and the instructors were always trying to teach without prior knowledge of the students capabilities. That was just the start of the sequence of events that led to the incident. Pilot debrief is a great channel that uncovers the string of mistakes in various incidents. The guy is an ex navy aviator. 😢​@EdwardTBurke-pv3qr

[@EdwardTBurke-pv3qr]

@@wiseoldman5841 A very long time ago, I was a RAG student at NAVAL Air Station Miramar and VF-126, the aggressor squadron, ran a Spin School training course for all the student pilots and NFO’s in the F-4 and F-14 RAGs. The training aircraft was the T-2C Buckeye. All varieties of spins were done including inverted spins, and the systematic steps for recovering from a “death spiral” were practiced.

[@unknownrider3071]

I was a USAF T-37 IP and we did a "stability demo" (student just watches) very early in a student's training. Pull the nose up to 70 degrees, pull the power to idle, set the controls to neutral and hold them there. The aircraft would depart, the nose fell, and airspeed picked up until it was flying again, and from there we recovered. The Tweet was a really good trainer.

[@nealdenison]

When I was a student and later an IP there we several additional steps for spin recovery all Bold Face we practiced on contact sorties.

[@unknownrider3071]

@@nealdenison The 43 words of wisdom? Throttles - idle; Rudder and ailerons - neutral....

[@randallulrich]

I had a chance to fly the T-37 as a student in Nav School. The T-37 is a very forgiving plane. You're right -- the Tweet was a very good trainer. I really liked it.

[@ronbelldvm]

Growler Jams!!! One of my favorite channels. No matter what kind of a day I'm having, when I see a new Growler Jams video is up, I'm having a good day. Thanks, Pail!!

[@karenbradley2657]

I totally agree

[@ronmorgan1906]

Wow! We did spins in the Tweet, but the T38 does not do well in departures, and it's a CAP in the Viper. You're a great IP Pail. I had a screamer in '38s and I passed in spite of him. Keep up the great work!

[@GrowlerJams]

Ha! Cheers.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

The from video the T45 looks to have relatively benign stall characteristics but of course a video isn't necessarily the same as being there.

[@rockyraab8290]

Dittos and kudos for being a teacher, not a screamer. I was a T-37 IP fresh from a combat tour and got all the "problem" students. Never once yelled at one, but TAUGHT them to fly. I thoroughly enjoyed that vicarious maneuver.

[@thomasroutson3046]

Pail, although this was a repeat I never get tired of your great videos! I enjoyed my upset training when flying small stuff, but I would LOVE to do it in the front seat of the Goshawk with you instructing in the back! Fly Navy!😊

[@johndurant622]

I once had a student in a T38 pull perfectly vertical in what was supposed to be a nose high recovery. The plane tail slid backwards over 3,000 feet before swinging around, lawn dart style, to straight down. It then took afterburner and 6 g’s to pull out at the very bottom of the area. “Sorry Stan…you’ll have to try that again…the right way!”

[@GrowlerJams]

Sketchy.

[@richardbryan6349]

When pointed at the ground like a lawn dart, why would you need afterburner for your recovery? 🤔

[@michaelesq.atpcfii.9862]

Sketchy is correct, it is very unlikely scenario in a T38 Air Force trainer during unusual attitude recovery.

[@johnnunn8688]

@@richardbryan6349my thought also.

[@matthewwakeling4978]

@@richardbryan6349 If you need to increase speed to have enough lift to pull out of the dive, and the distance down to the ground isn't enough to give you that speed.

[@Richard-u1c7r]

Enjoyed watching two great Americans protect this wonderful country!!!!

[@Turboy65]

With such a calm, reassuring instructor in the back seat, I'd totally be your student and take on any lesson you cared to teach me. I have done hundreds of deep stall recoveries, both normal and inverted, in the F-16 in simulations. My left hand has memorized the location of the MPO switch.

[@badpete3497]

Air force pilot taught me spin recovery in a glider, scared the shit out me. Found out I did not have the stomach for it. Intellectually I knew what to do but physically could not handle it.

[@electricalmayhem]

I still remember my first spins in a glider, absolutely terrifying, but I went on to love all aerobatics.

[@derekedge2089]

You can see the remnants of the old runways where L.E. Ramey Golf Course is now. Very cool

[@teeh917]

Thank you, Pail ! Have a great weekend. #FlyNavy

[@oldgoat142]

Hi there!

[@teeh917]

@oldgoat142 Well hello, Old Goat. I feel so rude addressing you as that. Lol

[@oldgoat142]

@@teeh917 It's all good, Lol. I've been called far worse even by good shipmates. Grumpy is one of them.

[@teeh917]

@@oldgoat142 I like Grumpy better. Lol How are you doing? Did you get to see the eclipse?

[@oldgoat142]

@@teeh917 You absolutely have permission to use Grumpy as my callsign, lol! I'm doing okay. Had a few tough days but it's all good. I hope you're doing great. I wasn't in the total eclipse track but I did manage to see part of it. Seen a couple of them in my lifetime. I think they are utterly fascinating and fantastically beautiful. Did you get to see it?

[@timleonard4118]

As a military flight instructor - I loved this !

[@bernardanderson3758]

It’s always amazing to seeing you as an Instructor Pilot for the T-45 Goshawk to train fighter pilots in the intermediate and advanced stages of their skill training.

[@Z06GT1]

You are an incredible pilot and an excellent teacher!

[@daveinseattle]

Thank you! Truly appreciate your videos - and your service to our country.

[@lynchkp1]

When I lived in Kingsville in the 70s, they were flying TA-4J Skyhawks and T-2 Buckeyes. My junior high was almost in line with runways 13L & R, so we would watch planes approach while in shop class. My house was about 2.5 miles from the base, so the sound of the jets was pretty constant.

[@pollylewis9611]

Thank you, Pail for another ride along I think this maneuver would be a blast to do, your students are very lucky to have you as their instructor!

[@cyclonasaurusrex1525]

No no no. No. And hell no! I can’t even handle amusement park rides anymore.

[@rundlet172]

Way cool. It blows me away that you start at 16,000, climb to maybe 22 or 23, and the recover at 16,000 (ready to do it again, of course). It's also interesting to see how you use alpha to measure the pull both for the climb and the recovery. I use this "climb till it falls out" to induce spins for recovery training; great fun!

[@commietube4273]

What an honor for that young man to have you as a teacher!

[@400heavy]

Very docile jet the T-45 is compared to OCF in the T-2 Buckeye.

[@richardmori1389]

Hey Growler, as I suspected, you are a natural instructor. Awesome demeanour.

[@bobdylan7120]

I worked within the Hawk Engineering Design Team at British Aerospace, the aircraft your Goshawk is based on (BAe Hawk + Hook + uprated undercarriage = Goshawk). I recall a senior project manager being confused when Engineering laughed at his suggestion we install SPILS (SPIn Limiting System) on the aircraft. Obviously he didn't fully understand the aircraft was designed as a Trainer.

[@lindaross783]

My cousin is from Kingsville. New view of it! My other cousin is a retired fighter pilot. I flew small planes and was an FA for United. Love your channel!

[@peepers46]

It takes a special set of balls to be able to fly these precision maneuvers, thank God there are guys and gals like you who stand ready to do this. Thank you all #FlyNavy

[@jimworley7385]

Awe memories! 😅 Well done! Enjoyed the video Pail! Thank you and most definitely for your service!

[@criticalthinker7822]

My wife and I saw you guys at the Fort Worth JRB. Yall were doing touch and goes and flew right over us at the storage.

[@HongCruise]

Just when you think it couldn't get better, Growler Jams delivers.

[@terryshutt1044]

Great trainer for a high performance plane. Very smooth into the power off stall, and easy recovery. I loved the second stall,with the tail stand and then the nose over. It also helps to have a GREAT TEACHER!!!!!!!. Well done Yoda.!!!!! The young jet jock will soon become a "JETEYE".

[@GrowlerJams]

😂

[@entropyachieved750]

Love the jams, keep them coming Pail

[@memmu291]

I love this jam a lot, thank you!! 💖💖💖 Have a nice weekend! 🍻✈️⚓️

[@GrowlerJams]

Thank you! You too!

[@memmu291]

@@GrowlerJams Thank you!! 🌞

[@returnofthenative]

My favourite was the flight & interview with dad.

[@koleknight]

It's another beautiful sunny day and you're flying on a jet plane, I'm jealous...

[@Kenny722]

another amazing upload love to see the vids!!!!

[@gnomoblu8015]

Thank you, Pail

[@richardkan8499]

Excellent. I felt as if I was there in the cockpit!

[@kentom1]

Reminded me of a 1973 VT-21 TA-4 flight at Yuma ACM training when things didn't go as planned. Went to "0" IAS, departed, and during the recovery, one LE slat was out while other was in, resulting in an extremely violent and disorienting experience. Passing 10,000, I finally was able to recover by pulling the stick strongly into my stomach. It was close! After landing, the g meter showed -4.5. I think there were others that had similar experience but not as fortunate, and also that's why the Blues had the A-4 LE slats wired up. Whew!

[@charmcitytoe]

Super pro! Y'all make it look easy; though I know it's anything but that! Diamonds. Fly Navy!

[@danemeyer7340]

This brings back memories. I use to be an avid skydiver. One day a Navy guy that ran a Navy club came out to experience a skydive but was too windy that day. He had flown out a T-38 2 passenger low wing prop plane and asked if any of us would like to do some aerobatic stuff. Many of us did and we got our first experience of significant G's and disorientation. I didn't feel normal for a couple of days It would have been nice if he had told me how to keep the blood in my head!! The guys that trained for Top Gun Maverick said you learn that the 4 words you learn to hate is "Here come the G's". Ha. It makes me appreciate what jet pilots have to tolerate while serving our country. I look forward to your videos Pail. Fly Navy.

[@GrowlerJams]

Fly Navy.

[@sylvesterpalermo937]

Missed my calling but in 1960 there was no getting around 20/200 vision. I used to see SNJ trainers overhead and later my Dad was a civilian on the BIG Staff, CNABATRA so I was often on base to visit. Would love to hear more about your experiences at PNS. btw, while stationed at Camp Pendleton in 1968, as a newly minted Navy Dentist, I did get a private license ( had a Marine instructor). One year with 1st MAW at Danang. We get to see the Blues practicing many times. Fly Navy!

[@johnsonofjohn1678]

Instructor: "And we've departed" Me: "Yeah, so has my lunch!"

[@GrowlerJams]

😂

[@kindnuguz]

As always, Thank you

[@Hallen36]

We called it unusual attitude recovery. Our old C-23 couldn't achieve those angles and if it went on its back, it would stay there. We had to put our head down while the instructor tried to disorient us. Usually, that meant they tried to make you sick. Then we'd be told to recover and we'd look up, take the controls, and then react to the current aircraft condition. Easy as. I would have loved to have had time in a Goshawk.

[@jcheck6]

What is a C-23?

[@memmu291]

I love this jam so much for many reasons!!💜💜💜 ... It's like a page turner; one more page, one more page.... Watching it now one more time... just one more... still one more 😂 💕💕💕

[@ultimatesans2175]

I love this stuff. Flight in any form, especially the military version is what it’s all about. Great channel, great narration Thanks for one of the best channels in the tube

[@GrowlerJams]

💪🏻

[@prichardgs]

Wow, that's amazing. You are a born instructor.

[@wabuchanan]

Awesome video. Thanks for posting something very different! We don't get to see videos of training.

[@Riverplacedad1]

Yep remember them well. As an ex A7 guy, I instructed a bunch of those in the T2C. Even had a dual engine flame out on an inverted spin. Having a degree in Aero Engineering, I always found uncontrolled flight characteristics of different aircraft an interesting subject. If one participates in 1 v 1 similar ACM, it’s just a I matter of time before somebody will get to slow and depart. We lost an VF111 F14 on the USS America 81 cruise that way. Most ACM engagements are won IMO maintaining high energy anyway.

[@GrowlerJams]

TYFYS.

[@Riverplacedad1]

@@GrowlerJams hey it was only 8 years. Great time to be in ..Reagan years and then a great airline career. It’s the wife’s that deserve the thanks. Worrying about their husbands. Taking care of kids while their husbands are deployed. It’s difficult to find women anymore that want to take on that kind of responsibility. They deserve the kudos!

[@russ186]

Few get to do this but it certainly makes one want to enlist in the Navy in all other operations ! This is as good as the Blue Angels flying their aerial performance! ... Love your humbleness in all your videos!

[@ResolUloseR]

Loving the FOD rolling around the top of the canopy. At least it wasn't $.97 worth of nickels, dimes and pennies. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@GrowlerJams]

😂

[@ChrisMuncy]

Okay so that's interesting that your flight box is on the opposite side of town from KNAS. Because I would hang out at the end of the one of the runways out in the farms to get pictures of you guys flying. No idea. We'd be flying on the other side of town. Thanks PAIL for another great video as usual

[@drewrubtheMando]

Great ride along. Thanks for sharing.

[@GrowlerJams]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@para1324]

That was a smooth recovery.

[@jpdunamislodge]

I totally get the “signature move”. Helped me get fresh blood to my ass and to make sure that my feet were awake.

[@GrowlerJams]

😂

[@tokyosan7906]

I ran and got one of my kiddos lincoln logs so I'd have a stick to pull back when you were calling out the angles. Fun video man, great job.

[@GrowlerJams]

Thanks 👍

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I❤ love the Jam!

[@RCCopterLove]

This must be a very weird feelling, sitting in a fighter jet with the nose high up in the sky, reducing the throttle to idle and loosing almost all airspeed. The recovery was soo smooth! How good that you have a lot of altitude as your best friend when doing these trainings!

[@bobdylan7120]

The 3 things that are of no use to a pilot - 1. Fuel left in the bowser. 2. Altitude above the aircraft. 3. Runway behind the aircraft.

[@Berend-ov8of]

Sorry to hear about the beer. 😢 Nice video. Even if it doesn't show much, it tells tales. An outsider view would show more, but tell less. This is well beyond GA stall training. Awesome.

[@humbertoisassi4845]

Awesome Channel Growler. I was born and raised in Kingsville Tx. When I was a kid I wanted to be a pilot. I used to climb the highest point on a tree with my binoculars and watch some of the training moves like this stall. That was way back. I'm 51 now and in Houston and still love fighter jets. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@GrowlerJams]

Cheers!

[@robertmayfield8746]

Awesome. My favourite video on your channel.

[@johnlavin-ford8372]

Helo s all the way ! … none of this falling backwards brother😂

[@robertnixon3816]

Great tutorial! With instructors like you its no wonder Naval aviators are the best in the world! A day full of this makes you appreciate "boots on the ground"! Fly Navy!

[@GrowlerJams]

Fly Navy!

[@ronwilliams1026]

I live about 60mi from NAS Meridian always like to see the jets flying around!

[@JulieMcDiarmid]

Loved that. Absolute calm, lucky student would benefit from that.

[@OhSoddit]

Hmm, thought I'd already seen this one....

[@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole]

Probably including the disclaimer about clearance/controls. Maybe their public affairs officer wanted it included?

[@GrowlerJams]

Yup. Exactly.

[@chuckbrown2765]

I like Growler reruns!

[@PBMainiac]

​@@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpoleif you can condense it into a three letter acronym I don't want it! PRO, NSA, ATF, IRS, DNC, RNC, CIA, FBI, TSA, forgetabouttit!

[@ryanpeel1650]

I grew up down the road from NAS Kingsville.y childhood home can probably be seen in the background of the video. Maybe one day when I'm in town I'll run into ya and get to say thanks for the amazing videos.

[@ryanbrennan4150]

I.Y.A.O.Y.A.S. My favorite YT channel, great creator, thanks bro.

[@jmtayloriii]

Wow that thing gets back to 180 knots fast when you get that nose down!

[@GrowlerJams]

Sure do!

[@memmu291]

You've added captions, I'm very happy, thank you!! ❤❤️ There's so fantastic captions/texts on the vid itself!! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 Thank you for those too! 💞💞💞

[@makantahi3731]

I did similar things with an RC plane, with the fact that I tried to keep the vertical position as long as possible while the plane was losing height, I managed to do it for about 3-4 seconds, which turned out to be about 12 meters, or 10 lengths of the plane. after that the plane would turn nervously nose down

[@mikal8343]

Made it look easy. My most nauseating aircraft experience was aerobatics in a Tiger Moth biplane.

[@diego646464]

That instructor sounds SOOOOOO COOL !!! 😊

[@missmel9525]

Ok, so I got drawn in to your "signature move". For myself, who is absolutely shit scared of flying. You, could almost make me feel safe enough to tackle my fear...ALMOST 🤔 However I do admire you for the many years of service you've dedicated to your country. I'm a New Zealander & watching your uploads have been an eye opener to say the least. Keep up the awesome job & of course that "signature move".

[@ilyafilru]

I'm a skydiving instructor, I have to come up with my own signature move.

[@GrowlerJams]

😂

[@siobhanmurphy6301]

Thank you very much for showing us real world stalls - the airline world doesn't allow us to do this in the actual aircraft - we can only do it in the simulator and starting at 37000ft and full stall the aircraft in level flight - the aircraft departs and to recover you push to follow zero lift - zero g. although the simulator aircraft is in zero g freefall, the simulator cab cant achieve zero g... the sim instructor just resets you back to 37000ft because it would take forever to climb the 10000ft after recovery back to 37,000ft.

[@CocoDave37]

Pail, one of our flight sim buddies said this when I posted a link to your video in Discord. "Pail is a good guy. A fried of mine was his EWO in the Growler and deployed with him."

[@GrowlerJams]

💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@tetley3737]

This is one of my favorite channels! Thanks for sharing. 👍

[@GrowlerJams]

Cheers!

[@MrErpolitics]

Very well done - you made it look easy!

[@timtruett8368]

Great memories! Although mine were built first in the T-2 (and a gawd awful full spin entry) in Meridian MS, and later in the F-9 at Beeville.

[@kenmarsh2668]

Mine also, 1969 with the T-2C at Meridian and the F-9 at Beeville.

[@Bob-sk6xq]

I really like how you show a side on pic on the aeroplane showing its attitude in the pitch. I believe along with an artificial horizon there should also be an instrument that shows the attitude of the aircraft in pitch (like you did) and roll. The Russians have something similar but I want to see an instrument with a side on and rear view on the aircraft showing its pitch and roll (as well as an artificial horizon on the panel). Sometimes after staring at the AH for a long time it feels weird so I have a look at the aeroplane in the turn co-ordinator just to help with the full picture. I know it’s not to be used that way however it does help me to break up the monotony of staring at the AH) I feel this would greatly help pilots with spacial disorientation and in unusual attitudes.

[@CraigLMoran]

Rookie training, kool.

[@150pilot]

When I get to 110 degrees it generally means I'm flying east south east in the Cessna 150. Thanks for posting these. videos. Pretty cool to see how things are different in something burning kerosene.

[@GrowlerJams]

Cheers!

[@luisx9428]

That was interesting. Thank you for these insights into the training.

[@lisamaranto353]

Holy chit! That was absolutely amazing!!! 🫡

[@rondrew2857]

I might have like this more in my early 20s. But learned the similar items in an LSA a couple years back... Wwwaaaaahhhhooooo!

[@karenbradley2657]

Amazing love watching all. Your videos God bless you stay safe

[@frkhri6418]

more more and more! you are awsome man !!!!

[@RGGaming940]

I love it! Thanks for the video, sir!

[@EPlTETS]

If I saw these videos like 10, 15 years ago, I might choose a different profession. 😄 Looks dope!

[@thomasstandley6309]

Also a pretty nice shot of Baffin Bay.

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

This needed a 360 cam mounted on the outside of the plane. Must look awesome!

[@dan110024]

Love the faux gravity indicator that was floating around at 2:40

[@GrowlerJams]

🤫

[@claudemiropacheco]

I have just some light nausea symptoms from my computer chair. Can't imagine what I would have had in the cockpit.