Exercise for Ankle Movement (Simple, NOT Easy)

[@skisunfb]

Pivot slips with hockey stops. Thanks for the great demo!

[@JB91710]

1:20 because of the way you are describing this, a student will end up standing on that downhill foot through most of the turn no matter what you tell them because, the new leg angle change is created by the upper body being located down the hill and back in the fall line as the weight and balance is being transferred from the downhill to uphill foot. You are leaving all that out and concentrating just on the lower legs. Therefore, the student will not be balanced on the new turning left skis, they will end up staying on the inside skis and pushing the outside ski around. 1:22 Like you are right here. You are still on your right foot and pushing your left foot around. Before your skis even begin to turn; you should be balanced on that uphill foot. To demonstrate this correctly, you need more forward movement. 1:30 You didn't change your weight to your left foot until this point. To complete the turn, you pushed your downhill foot away from you to set the edge which forced you to fall back on your uphill foot.

[@iceinthehood]

Happy New Year! This exercise is called "Braquage" in here it is combined with edge gripping. A great drill for short turns

[@karlo407]

Not sure that’s white or it. Braqauge is sometimes a tactical choice in steeps. As a drill, WB describes it this way, www.wbsnowschool.ca/assets/pdf/Braquage.pdf

[@sampovaljus6230]

We call this The Escalator, because that translates to ”liukuportaat” (rutsch-treppe) in Finnish. Great excercise!

[@beattheclock7509]

Yess that´s what it is called in german!

[@XboxSnoSurfer]

Just to put this to you, but the only movement the ankle makes is flexion and extension, opening and closing... any lateral movement to “tip” onto (or off of) edges in an exercise like this comes from the foot pronating and supination (below the ankle joint) and from a degree of rotation in the hip joint. Instructors tend to use terminology like roll the ankle and knee to describe lateral movement because it’s easy to understand, but it isn’t accurate to the movements the body is actually making, the knee has four ligaments specifically to stop it from rolling and I’ve definitely never had a good time rolling an ankle! But if you accurately describe the movements that are being made to a student, you can more accurately prime them for the appropriate feedback as they practice.

[@beattheclock7509]

Oh wow that´s the first time i´m hearing of pronation and supination! Thank you for sharing that, helps me articulate my thoughts better!

[@DRMET]

Sideslipping and getting a feel for edges is a great warmup. Adding a turn is a nice touch. Thanks, and happy new year.

[@beattheclock7509]

Thank you, also happy new year!

[@ericcook4891]

I would call that exercise pivot slips with an edge set. It is a great drill.

[@beattheclock7509]

Well that name makes a lot of sense, i´ll use it! Thank you

[@gatticusfpv3174]

@@beattheclock7509 Yeah that's what my coaches would have called it as well. We did a lot of pivot slips. Which would be the first part of the drill but instead of setting your edge you would just pivot back to the other direction and repeat that for however long the coach tells you lol. Usually it would be like a set number of pivots and then you finish with the edge set. Throwing in a pole touch right at the end of the edge set can also help young athletes get a feel for how they should be set up at the end of a slalom turn.

[@karlo407]

It’s not really a pivot slip. Pivot slip focuses on hip rotation, separating upper body from lower body. So, with a pivot slip, the head, shoulders and, as best possible, the pelvis would continually face downhill.

[@gatticusfpv3174]

@@karlo407 Correct. I'd place it down a notch on the difficulty level from a true pivot slip. Pivot slips generally work on both moving along the length of the ski to get the tips to rotate into the fall line and upper body positioning to get the femurs to rotate in the hip sockets. This drill accomplishes the former but not the latter. I didn't notice he was square to the skis. Good call. But probably a pretty solid drill for getting people started with pivot slips. They can be a little brutal for folks that aren't used to doing them lol.

[@karlo407]

@@gatticusfpv3174 Down a notch, up a notch, or no notch at all, it depends on the objective. Turning from a dead stop, using the ankles, rather than a rotation of hip, and keeping the skis parallel is not so easy, I think. That said, it was suggested that it is more difficult doing it on one ski. In the context of keeping the skis parallel, that's cheating! :)

[@karlo407]

I think this is neither a pivot slip nor braqauge. Pivot slip is an active rotation after skis flatten. Braqauge, gravity turns the ski as you suggest, but the objective when used in steeps is to be out of the fall line quickly. Your drill is patient. Neither pivot slips nor braqauge come to a stop, the are slips. I would describe you drill as an excruciatingly slow turn that starts from a stop. It actually was a drill that an instructor suggested at a clinic. He didn’t have a name for it. BTW, the demonstrator exhibits much more hip rotation on the left turn than on the right. Also, to keeps skis parallel, I think he would benefit from not looking down at his skis and focus, instead, on feeling the boot, both lower boot and cuff.

[@beattheclock7509]

I´m also trying to not ski forward, so it´s basically turning around while skiing a straight line down. Thanks for the comment. I know the demo isn´t that great, the slope isn´t really even and the skis go wild because the boots are just crap and i don´t feel anything.. Once i have more time i will try to shoot all this better..

[@karlo407]

The “Patience Turn”? Just came across the term in a PSIA document and looked it up. turnshape.com/2012/08/01/skiing-is-more-like-taichi-than-kungfu-learning-patience-and-fluidity/ Also, at 1:28, to move COM forward, flex the ankles, right?

[@tobiastschernuth1598]

greats exercise love it! I really get a good feeling with this, for the entrance of the turn. BTW its not that easy too keep the skis parallel and the balance.

[@beattheclock7509]

Yea it´s not!

[@chrisobrien650]

Side Slips & Pivot Slips

[@TD6297]

used to use this drill coaching as well.

[@beattheclock7509]

Awesome, where did you coach?

[@TD6297]

@@beattheclock7509 just on a local hill here in western Canada. Used that drill to get them to feel their edges, loosen their ankles and understand that the skis want to naturally go down the hill if they balance properly

[@beattheclock7509]

@@TD6297 Ah i totally want to go there once i´m not totally broke anymore haha..

[@SkiSchoolSkiZenitSaasFee]

Amazing!

[@stevie5903]

Usually you would flatten the skis by moving your hip over the outside although this works too

[@beattheclock7509]

In a turn, ankle movement goes hand in hand with hip movement.

[@Bushwackerinpa]

is the wedge on the release part of the drill?

[@beattheclock7509]

totally not, i wanted to stay parallel and messed up haha.

[@mborsik]

this sort of kind of a two footed release (H.Harb), as demonstrated here: watch?v=AC1pt7pHXCY&t=239s

[@beattheclock7509]

Can you paste the URL again?

[@Triggerboy62]

@@beattheclock7509 I have a video of Chris trying the two footed release coming soon I hope.... you know how it is :)

[@Mike-yh1gv]

Heads up. Look were you are going.

[@beattheclock7509]

Yea i should probably do that