Did Boone & Crockett Get It Wrong? The King Buck

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Exodus Outdoor Gear

Exodus Outdoor Gear

Күн бұрын

This is the most Controversial World Record Typical that never was.
On November 18, 2006, Johnny King Shot the new typical world record, or so he thought. On the first day of gun season, Johnny and his family set out to do gun drives on the family farm. Minutes into one of the first drives, a giant buck ran up the ravine in front of Johnny. He lined up the iron sights on his 30-30 and took the 150-yard shot.
The buck reared up and took off, and Johnny took two more shots as the buck was running. After 2 more counters with the buck chasing it down and multiple shots, Johnny dropped the giant buck with his last bullet. While he and his cousin walked up to recover the buck, it jumped up and took off. His cousin brad had to put one last shot into the buck to finally drop it.
This is where the controversy begins, In early 2007, a B&C official scorer measured the buck at 220 6/8” gross, netting 213 6/8” potentially overtaking milo Hansen for the typical world record. The measurer cautioned Johnny, that the B&C panel might not accept all 12 points as typical tines because the g-3s were really close to being measured as abnormal points.
Johnny and his dad drive the 1,200 miles to Pennsylvania to have the rack panel scored by B&C only to be told that it would have to be scored as a main-framed 5x5 with abnormal G-3s because of the “common bases” that the g2’s and g3’s shared.
Did B&C make a mistake on how
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@ExodusOutdoorGear
@ExodusOutdoorGear Жыл бұрын
Check out the full story here >>> Did B&C Make a Mistake On The NEW World Record Typical? The Johnny King Buck kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWXHgoWkoKxjbMU
@Baseballreds
@Baseballreds 10 ай бұрын
What is it then
@mikegreenwood9561
@mikegreenwood9561 Ай бұрын
Wisconsin still rules 😊
@richardkenney1122
@richardkenney1122 Ай бұрын
Monster Buck
@YankeeDoodle2
@YankeeDoodle2 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they did make a mistake, but not unintentionally, it was completely intentional they've been protecting milo Hanson for some reason
@justinperrin9503
@justinperrin9503 Жыл бұрын
Same with the Rompola buck
@ceedsnuts4965
@ceedsnuts4965 Жыл бұрын
It’s because class wise you can’t get a more picture perfect buck than Milo’s buck
@matthewbunger6115
@matthewbunger6115 Жыл бұрын
You know dsm well rompolas buck was a fake
@gsnicholas8522
@gsnicholas8522 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewbunger6115 where’s your proof?
@rubenvasquez021
@rubenvasquez021 Жыл бұрын
Yes I’m thinking the same thing didn’t bass bro shop just buy milo Hansen buck for 1 million? Maybe that’s why
@uzifromtwitter5257
@uzifromtwitter5257 Жыл бұрын
In a world full of Milo Hansons, be a Steve Rinella.
@sigxm5thumb
@sigxm5thumb Жыл бұрын
Shit man I just want something weird and different doesn’t have to be huge
@uzifromtwitter5257
@uzifromtwitter5257 Жыл бұрын
@@sigxm5thumb know what you mean, got one with a 7 inch tone growing straight out from his base, only 15 inches wide yet my favorite head lol
@Wreck6987
@Wreck6987 Жыл бұрын
Dont be a steve rinella. Guys a pretentious sellout. Started out good but meeting him now guy got swallowed by greed
@RayFinkle05
@RayFinkle05 Жыл бұрын
In a world of Steve Rinella’s, be the guy nobody has ever heard of.
@Kingfisher276
@Kingfisher276 Жыл бұрын
@@RayFinkle05you mean just a guy that don’t spend thousands and thousands of dollars hunting and not looking for sponsors and endorsements gettin rich from a sport you love or just want to put meat in your freezer from ? I wear a plad jacket and sit in a lawn chair , it’s been working for 30 some years now hunting elk , deer , and moose
@magnusalbusvenator406
@magnusalbusvenator406 Жыл бұрын
Man, that Milo Hanson must spend millions of dollars bribing these people. That's not the first time a world record buck was discredited, so he could keep his record.
@jacktheaviator4938
@jacktheaviator4938 27 күн бұрын
Hanson sold shares of his buck years ago, last I heard he only has about a 10% interest in it. But the people who are his partners are all lawyers. And they are super litigant heavy. Just look at what they did to Rompsla
@JJD-9403
@JJD-9403 Ай бұрын
The Hanson Buck is amazing but the King Buck absolutely crushes it. It's not even a question.
@adohiproductions6506
@adohiproductions6506 Жыл бұрын
Boone and Crockett is a joke. Their scoring system is so unfair and biased. It forces a wild animal to conform to a criterion of perfect symmetry on a WILD animal. The only fair scoring system that makes perfect sense and is fair to all deer is Buckmasters. Buckmasters strictly measures bone vs bone and is a true measurement of a deers bone on top of his head.
@montuckyman4982
@montuckyman4982 Жыл бұрын
Bushmasters is a joke. All scoring worship of antlers is a joke!. Just use it as a rough idea of what you may have gotten or seen.
@adohiproductions6506
@adohiproductions6506 Жыл бұрын
@Montucky Man but you're watching videos about deer scoring... why watch and comment if you don't care about score? You know nothing about it, but yet call buckmasters a joke? Dude you're a joke
@gordonmcpherson7670
@gordonmcpherson7670 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t the Boone and Crockett scoring system designed to track the National health of animals by measuring antlers or something like that? Aren’t non typical antlers formed from injuries the animals received? I could be mistaken but if these two things are true than the Boone and Crocket system does what it was designed to do.
@calvins1837
@calvins1837 Жыл бұрын
​@Gordon McPherson nontypical can be injury however some deer carry genes that dictate that.
@JeremyWilson-vu2pw
@JeremyWilson-vu2pw Жыл бұрын
Buckmasters doesn’t even measure inside spread. How is that, make it the best scoring system? I know this cause my biggest buck scored 124 5/8 buckmaster. Which isn’t counting the 19 inch spread. N had 9 inches of deductions. Due to a point here or there being longer then the one on the other side, ok fine, but how many deer are 100% symmetrical. Bone is bone! Same deer scores, 150s B&C
@davetoms63
@davetoms63 Жыл бұрын
only a person with an agenda would call that rack a non typical. it is the new world record , Milo can cry elsewhere, he had his time in the light.
@terryzanger7152
@terryzanger7152 Жыл бұрын
A world record typical should not have ANY questionable opinion based measurements. Milos is dam clean, taken ethically and in CANADA. That is your real problem with it.
@davetoms63
@davetoms63 Жыл бұрын
@@terryzanger7152 whatever. fact is this bucks beats the hanson buck hands down, anyone looking at both racks can clearly see that. So keep your conspiracy crap to yourself. I have no problem with milo, dont know him and dont care where he us from as I respect the buck itself, not the hunter.
@clevelandtx2fontaine224
@clevelandtx2fontaine224 Жыл бұрын
@Terry Zanger my man canada? u act like yall are Somalia or something. U just north of us
@georgebranshaw9908
@georgebranshaw9908 Жыл бұрын
Who cares the Milo Hansen buck was just holding recently for multi millions
@russelllangworthy8855
@russelllangworthy8855 Жыл бұрын
@@terryzanger7152Taken ethically? Your definition of ethical is different than mine.
@wayneeverhart4455
@wayneeverhart4455 Жыл бұрын
World record in my book
@terryzanger7152
@terryzanger7152 Жыл бұрын
It's non typical
@GeorgeJohnson-j2e
@GeorgeJohnson-j2e 4 ай бұрын
yeah, they can't take the memory of him piling up with his last shot
@NeilGraham.I.M.F
@NeilGraham.I.M.F Жыл бұрын
I can see that. But at the same time there is only so much space on a main beam to grow tines. It looks typical to me. But I'm not a scorer. I do agree with a comment above the about protecting Hansen's buck
@rodneykelso4555
@rodneykelso4555 Жыл бұрын
Yes an absolute mistake.
@leftyo9589
@leftyo9589 Жыл бұрын
i grew up with scoring having deductions etc, but lets be honest total inches dry score should be the only way to score deer.
@rooster9923
@rooster9923 Жыл бұрын
Yes they screwed that up and it’s so apparent that they for some reason are safe guarding the milo buck
@tommyhunter1817
@tommyhunter1817 Жыл бұрын
Mainly because Milo’s buck had NO questionable points. In reality his is as close to the perfection that the scoring system envisions as is possible.
@danstrueby7467
@danstrueby7467 Жыл бұрын
G2's and G3's can't share bases. Seems pretty clear to anybody with a set of eyes.
@tommyhunter1817
@tommyhunter1817 Жыл бұрын
@@danstrueby7467 actually they can.
@danstrueby7467
@danstrueby7467 Жыл бұрын
@tommyhunter1817 yes you're right. Only if the entry is scored as non typical.
@Mr99dm
@Mr99dm 2 ай бұрын
​​@@tommyhunter1817you're right he didn't but his main beam was shot and then held together with black tape which by their own rules can't happen so it should disqualify miles buck from being the current world record
@TRUTH609
@TRUTH609 Жыл бұрын
King buck is the world record in my opinion. I no longer trust B&C.
@zzz7zzz9
@zzz7zzz9 Жыл бұрын
then your opinion is wrong. how can you not see that it's a non-typical? it 100% has tines that share the same base. you don't have to like the rule, but that doesn't change what the rules are.
@zzz7zzz9
@zzz7zzz9 5 ай бұрын
If you don't trust B&C, then don't be record-driven. But it still doesn't change that milo is #1. If you like the king buck more, than like it more. But i bet you'd feel different if the hansen buck was american.
@fattdamon1980
@fattdamon1980 2 ай бұрын
​@@zzz7zzz9 okay Milo. j/k but why isn't Hansen's non typical for that sticker point at the top of the G3 (I think)?
@aronslaght6639
@aronslaght6639 Ай бұрын
​@zzz7zzz9 B&c literally changed the rules after it was submitted. ​By the scoring manual in effect at the time, those tines do not constitute a common base. The king buck got jobbed.
@roostercogburn5005
@roostercogburn5005 Жыл бұрын
So damn absurd. We should be using the water displacement method. Inch for inch. The fact we deduct bone growth is utterly ridiculous.
@adamredden2007
@adamredden2007 Жыл бұрын
It's worse than utterly ridiculous.
@jessechaskey7205
@jessechaskey7205 Жыл бұрын
Never heard anyone do that before, but it's quite brilliant
@BossDoogles
@BossDoogles Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that the term typical does not refer to symmetrical. Speaking in general terms, a typical white tail deer rack will have a main beam with individual tines sprouting vertically from that main beam and separated by some space. A symmetrical buck can have matching drops tines on both sides of the rack but it’s not typical. In this specific case these times are 50-50 on the fence. As others have stated in this thread, Hanson buck fits unquestionably in the typical category where this one has contention.
@tasaman
@tasaman 2 ай бұрын
The you are mistaking typical with perfect. Typical means that the tines are of a typical nature and not abnormal. The King buck is no where near abnormal.
@left-handedstan4506
@left-handedstan4506 Ай бұрын
Yup, by their own rules this should be ruled as a typical. Upright off the main beam. F b&c. 6x6.
@BossDoogles
@BossDoogles Ай бұрын
@@tasaman In general I would not consider this rack abnormal but by Boone and Crockett standards and guidelines split tines or a tine branching off of another tine is considered abnormal. The 2 tines in question are not black and white off the main beam. It is abnormal to have a large change in circumference between points as you measure along the main beam. This bucks score card suggests a normal change in circumference. Not saying it’s definitive only suggests it. When dealing with the buck of bucks it’s probably better to error on the side of caution. If it wasn’t a world record I would say score the points as normal.
@stephenparchewski1998
@stephenparchewski1998 Жыл бұрын
Regardless of whether or not it’s a world record, that is one hell of a deer.
@petegraf7760
@petegraf7760 Жыл бұрын
Top view is figure 8. By their own description, it is two separate tines. The King buck is king.
@JJM2222
@JJM2222 Жыл бұрын
Top view on left g2 is not a peanut/figure 8 if the cross section is taken at the correct point--> at the top of the main beam. Where you'd start tine measurement from. Shared base.
@JJM2222
@JJM2222 Жыл бұрын
The split is .5" too high. It's a stupid rule though.
@flyflywood6976
@flyflywood6976 11 ай бұрын
If he is not the record.. his brother is still there.. a bigger buck is on that ranch.
@donaldturner5124
@donaldturner5124 Жыл бұрын
The Boone and Crocket system of measuring allows for subjectivity. The system is flawed and it should be the total inches after drying.
@Peter-w4s1e
@Peter-w4s1e Жыл бұрын
It's intentional to remain in power
@valleyridgesimmentals8969
@valleyridgesimmentals8969 Ай бұрын
Milo Hanson buck is a light rack, has length but it doesn't have any mass.
@grigorirasputin5020
@grigorirasputin5020 Жыл бұрын
I thought the biggest mistake was the narrator saying "he lined up the iron sights on his 30-30..." as the camera showed him looking through a scope. 🤣
@chasmofsar2691
@chasmofsar2691 Ай бұрын
Boone and Crockett didn't get it wrong. One guy with a massive ego made it impossible for B&C to review it. It deserves to be a world record.
@tythomps
@tythomps Жыл бұрын
Definitely a mistake. The scoring is set up to give tines like that a disadvantage even when scored as a 6x6 anyway. Not sure why B&C is so against this one.
@dalecarlson5924
@dalecarlson5924 Ай бұрын
The Zaft buck was also scored the same way. Not sure if it's because he didn't find it after the shot ,and a farmer found it a week later. But really, the real world record should really be the Rompala buck hands down.
@chrishenry5945
@chrishenry5945 Ай бұрын
It’s fake.
@trentw3614
@trentw3614 Жыл бұрын
If you ever get a chance, sit down with a couple of the old timers that were involved with scoring this. The controversy inside of the BC guys is unreal to hear.
@MeandMrBlue
@MeandMrBlue Жыл бұрын
I've always thought it should be #1
@EpicWhitetailHabitatLLC
@EpicWhitetailHabitatLLC Жыл бұрын
The King Buck is the World's record whitetail.
@shawnbachman4849
@shawnbachman4849 Жыл бұрын
As soon as you mentioned Pennsylvania, it's situation went in the crapper. It's the world record in my eyes
@danielcourtright5659
@danielcourtright5659 Жыл бұрын
It is easy to tell. If the two centerlines of the points intersect above the centerline of the main beam they share a base.
@brananddandi
@brananddandi Жыл бұрын
Thats it, the MILO buck is soooo uniform. Having seen it in real life its, absolutely perfect. Wide, Tall. Perfect and hard to believe Whitetail get THAT BIG!!!
@chasmofsar2691
@chasmofsar2691 Ай бұрын
They aren't measured off the centerline, so why would you selectively bring that into play? That's inconsistent.
@Tam0de
@Tam0de Ай бұрын
Because the question is whether or not they share the same base.
@chasmofsar2691
@chasmofsar2691 Ай бұрын
@Tam0de Exactly. And those lines don't intersect until they are beyond the point from which you measure them, i.e. the base. The points are not measured from the centerline of the beam. In other words, they do not share a base.
@johnhaney9440
@johnhaney9440 Жыл бұрын
Milo Hansen will sue anyone that contests his world record.
@WieldyDragoon50
@WieldyDragoon50 Жыл бұрын
They will forever protect the Hanson buck. I know an old man that has two that size on his wall never sent them in
@schoonhoven76
@schoonhoven76 2 ай бұрын
Stuff like this makes a good argument for scoring antlers based on displacement or volume
@rocmo656
@rocmo656 Жыл бұрын
It was always my understanding, that a shared base wasn't a deduction for a typical rack, but a "enhancement".
@busterbrown8821
@busterbrown8821 Жыл бұрын
Everyone thinks they made a mistake, but the Milo Hansen buck is a perfect typical, each tine symmetrical. This deer, although huge, is not a bigger typical, that one tine is clearly abnormal just growing in the right spot. In my opinion milos buck is a lot cleaner typical.
@michaelvstheworld3680
@michaelvstheworld3680 Жыл бұрын
Compare this buck to sheds of "The General", which no one from B&C has a problem calling a typical to my knowledge, and they look very similar.
@jayonez137
@jayonez137 3 ай бұрын
I harvested B&C’s and P&Y’s but never cared to have them officially measured To get into the books. B&C really messed this up. This buck beats the Milo Hanson buck! They won’t admit it
@olcowcatcher671
@olcowcatcher671 Жыл бұрын
I live in Springfield mo Johnny Morris owns bass pro and he did by the buck for one million makes you wonder about the king buck
@antichrist_revealed
@antichrist_revealed Жыл бұрын
I find that hard to believe. Any proof on that?
@MrRichgounder1969
@MrRichgounder1969 Жыл бұрын
This is one of several bucks that I heard of that has scored higher than Milo Hanson’s buck. Why are they not getting the recognition they deserve?
@Blackknifestudios24
@Blackknifestudios24 Жыл бұрын
Because B&C worshop's Hanson
@blakehendricks860
@blakehendricks860 Жыл бұрын
Yes, those G3s are off the beam not the G2. Are they close together yes but those G3s are coming off the beam
@left-handedstan4506
@left-handedstan4506 Жыл бұрын
100%
@jamesstanford3098
@jamesstanford3098 Жыл бұрын
No mistake, the have specific guidelines for typical bucks. If you don't like it have it scored by buckmasters or SCI...
@johnramsey6366
@johnramsey6366 Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@haromaster6086
@haromaster6086 Жыл бұрын
They’re biased a holes. They didn’t like the fact that he wasn’t a traditional hunter and that he was doing a family deer drive and that it wasn’t a traditional hunt. B&C also didn’t like the fact that he sold the buck so quickly. They want somebody to represent the world record not a buyer. Everybody I talk to. I tell them that the Johnny King Buck is the world record. Look at the Damery buck that they allowed into their record books. It has the same G2 G3 base issue , but they judge that typical. They’re hypocrites. Also, one of the very high up, B&C panel judges, and a few panel scorers have a feud with Jay Fish who bought the buck.
@stevemcvay2220
@stevemcvay2220 Жыл бұрын
Tried to make the story loop flawlessly but FAILED
@markburrell2778
@markburrell2778 Жыл бұрын
Money, money, money.
@Barry-m6f
@Barry-m6f Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard so much shite about a deers antlers the only question that needs asking is “was it tasty.”
@eparks10
@eparks10 3 ай бұрын
This was shot in Alma, Wisconsin a small city of 700. My dad grew up there and we’ve been to the restaurant that it’s in. great job Jonny
@shelbycrowder4462
@shelbycrowder4462 Жыл бұрын
Shared base on between g 2 onleft side deduction
@timhatfield6367
@timhatfield6367 Жыл бұрын
Daniel Boone nor Davey Crockett ever shot, or measured a rack on a buck of this caliber. And if they did,they'd Never agree to deductions. Lol
@gregoryjones6714
@gregoryjones6714 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion I think think either call could've been made, but the tines in question do share the same base, if the tine wasn't straight up and stuck out to the side growing from the same spot there wouldn't be any debate. It's a magnificent Buck. And deserves it's own spotlight.
@kevinparker2871
@kevinparker2871 4 ай бұрын
Looking solid, New WR!!
@graydoncarruth5044
@graydoncarruth5044 Жыл бұрын
The right “G3” is clearly an abnormal point coming off of a common base in my opinion.
@MasonDunn17
@MasonDunn17 Жыл бұрын
Of course it’s Wisconsin
@Cartel423
@Cartel423 2 ай бұрын
I love dear Wisconsin I was born there and I still live here in Milwaukee
@tomassmith5009
@tomassmith5009 2 ай бұрын
They should use volumetric measurements via lasers. Figure out the actual displacement by each individual antler, then subtract the difference if it’s scored as a typical
@_DB.COOPER
@_DB.COOPER Жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake was Johnny’s marksmanship!
@Beardog53
@Beardog53 Жыл бұрын
Buck fevers a crazy thing big boys get you shaky
@_DB.COOPER
@_DB.COOPER Жыл бұрын
@@Beardog53 I’ve harvested dozens and dozens of animals. It’s all the same for me each time.
@elicarter1356
@elicarter1356 Жыл бұрын
@@_DB.COOPERlet’s not forget he was using iron sights from 100 yards
@_DB.COOPER
@_DB.COOPER Жыл бұрын
@@elicarter1356 And? If you can’t hit your target you shouldn’t be shooting.
@elicarter1356
@elicarter1356 Жыл бұрын
@@_DB.COOPER iron sights from 100 yards. Let’s see you hit a clay pigeon size target from 100 yards with iron sights
@therealwallywess
@therealwallywess Ай бұрын
I don’t care what steps out in front of my blind. It’s Spoon and Crockpot 😂
@marklumley619
@marklumley619 Жыл бұрын
The G3’s are joined at the base with the other point so one could argue that the two pints are extras. That is a criteria of B&C However all the points are on the main beam and in line with each other so one could argue it’s a 6x6 not a 5x5 with extras. One man’s typical is another man’s non-typical and there is the dilemma. I guess that’s why some people just say to heck with the B&C club and enjoy their deer in private. I’ve never had any of mine entered into B&C because gross matters more than net
@JOHN-vr4og
@JOHN-vr4og Жыл бұрын
Yep...they are joined in my opinion.
@jbusta8548
@jbusta8548 Жыл бұрын
Seen some white tail bucks of that size in Denhawken Texas years ago but that ranch didn't allow hunting for deer.
@Teddybigdaddywhirley
@Teddybigdaddywhirley Жыл бұрын
Sadly he got shafted ,what a beast of a deer
@Danyang1
@Danyang1 Жыл бұрын
New record to me. And to be done in my home state, gives me hope for sure for another possible record breaker
@TheGameKeepers-ph1tm
@TheGameKeepers-ph1tm 3 ай бұрын
My tv was playing a Taco Bell add and the iconic sound played at the best timing😭
@lowtriggerweightjay7331
@lowtriggerweightjay7331 Жыл бұрын
Rompola buck is the most controversial buck.
@tomwisser953
@tomwisser953 Жыл бұрын
Yes it was but I believe the reason being is that someone in the family owned a deer facility down south and the people believed the buck was killed down there and brought back. I know a little of Mitch's story and it's a shame they treated him like that. I live here in Michigan about 150 miles from where that buck was killed and to see the mounts this man killed was pretty awesome. No one can truly judge a man unless they were there to witness the kill shot. He was a rural mail carrier and saw many big bucks on his route and that's before trail cameras. And to listen to people say no one kills a buck with a 24 inch inside spread,ridiculous, I have a 9 point with a 26 inside measurement and an 8 point with a 24 1/2 inside measurement. I kept track of these claims against Mitch and they just aren't right. A lot of people get jealous and try to ruin a guys reputation for being a good hunter. Shameful
@paulotwell1579
@paulotwell1579 Жыл бұрын
They were wrong
@GW-HitsBombs
@GW-HitsBombs Жыл бұрын
Either way, great buck
@KrummyProductions
@KrummyProductions Жыл бұрын
I’ve held the rack. I can see why they did what they did. However, when our group has had other bucks scored, deer with two separate “bloodlines” on a shared base point have scored both points as independents starting from the beam. I lost the buck pool that year because of that shared base “G3” counting as a G3 and not a non-typical split. I laughed because I knew the King Buck story and said that poor guy don’t get the world record and I lose; both conflicting each other.
@mikewheeler951
@mikewheeler951 Жыл бұрын
All deer that are score with tines that share a common base are scored like that. Cold hard facts.
@jax9224
@jax9224 10 ай бұрын
The thing is is that they don’t want the Hanson buck to be beat
@chriswest7468
@chriswest7468 Жыл бұрын
Here's another weird one with B&C scoring controversy with another WI typical giant...the John Kassera buck. Feature that one Exodus boys! Right down the road from me!
@ComedyBros5
@ComedyBros5 Жыл бұрын
No one will ever believe this, but an old farmer let’s me hunt his land. He’s got 500ac he lets me cover. Two years ago, he decided to go out and try to get a freezer filler. He came home with a massive 16pt typical buck. I’m telling you, this thing was a Boone & Crocket world record. My dad and I rough scored it at 231 & 1/4. We couldn’t believe it and insisted he take it to get professionally scored. He refused, saying “I’ll never understand the excitement over some antlers.” He just cut the rack off and had it sitting in one of his barns. I go check it out at least once a year. No one will believe me but it’s true, and one of the wildest stories in my life!
@Peter-w4s1e
@Peter-w4s1e Жыл бұрын
Pics or it didn't happen!
@ComedyBros5
@ComedyBros5 5 ай бұрын
@@Peter-w4s1e How do I get you pics?
@montuckyman4982
@montuckyman4982 Жыл бұрын
No mistake made.
@savvydirtfarmer
@savvydirtfarmer Жыл бұрын
King buck is the record. Check out the Van Lith buck. "Fused" G2 several inches up.. counted it as 2 separate points. The King buck is much "cleaner."
@Darmel06
@Darmel06 Жыл бұрын
Man I can see it being a 5×5 but I can also see the 6×6 typical. Thats just to close to call. Should have been a vote on it. Would still love to know about the rampala buck and would love to see all 3 in the same room.
@Buddystemz
@Buddystemz 2 ай бұрын
I would love to know how many deer were scored previously to this with “common bases” that made the record book but weren’t goin for #1
@timredden5580
@timredden5580 Жыл бұрын
I often wonder how the determine what’s a typical point when it’s palmated if it ok for some to be scored typical and in other cases non- typical to be fair they need to be more consistent!
@rhull3939
@rhull3939 2 ай бұрын
What's wrong with taking the score from the actual cubic inches of the antlers? Regardless of points? I mean the biggest and heaviest is what people really care about, right?
@jeffboutilier5075
@jeffboutilier5075 Жыл бұрын
I thought someone else put the killing shot into it, after Johnny ran out of ammo?
@ExodusOutdoorGear
@ExodusOutdoorGear Жыл бұрын
His cousin put a finisher into it. Couldn’t squeeze that part in and keep it under a minute
@Djsweepaman
@Djsweepaman Жыл бұрын
​@ExodusOutdoorGear you certainly squeezed in the part where "Johnny finally dropped the buck with his last bullet ". So was it Johnny ot his cousin that finished it off?
@MuirclanforJesus
@MuirclanforJesus 4 ай бұрын
Fake News
@bryanvyse3333
@bryanvyse3333 Жыл бұрын
Use the figure 8 method visual. Common bases?
@JeffBaker318
@JeffBaker318 Жыл бұрын
B&C always seems to use whatever will lower the score. At times it seems they don’t want a record broken. Plus it’s subjective. A different group of measures might see it the other way.
@johngentilesco
@johngentilesco 4 ай бұрын
King buck, Rompola buck are the world records in my book. Why Boone & Crockett protects Milo’s record is beyond me.
@Whocares125-u4k
@Whocares125-u4k Жыл бұрын
IMO it's a good call...he's one of the best deer you'll ever see...a MONSTER, right up there with the very biggest...but there are "rules".
@SteveC810
@SteveC810 Жыл бұрын
Protecting Hanson. Ive heard it many times.
@joefico4801
@joefico4801 Жыл бұрын
The typical frame is king as a deduction kills the score! No mistake, the rules are not negotiable.
@Blackknifestudios24
@Blackknifestudios24 Жыл бұрын
But why have deductions in the first place
@joefico4801
@joefico4801 2 ай бұрын
@adamgd34 waiting for one to come by now! I have a friend who has a 168 and I know there is no buck that size around me. Still I hunt for the love and the rush.
@aronslaght6639
@aronslaght6639 Ай бұрын
B&c changed the rule for the panel scoring. It was 2 separate typical points by B&C's own manual at the time it was submitted.
@joefico4801
@joefico4801 Ай бұрын
@aronslaght6639 If that was the case it would be #1 in the world.......maybe the details are unclear? It is what it was scored.....never heard of any appeals!
@aronslaght6639
@aronslaght6639 Ай бұрын
@joefico4801 The scoring rules were changed. That's a fact. King tried to appeal. They screwed the buck instead. D&DH did a number of articles on it back when it happened. Sometimes it's easier to double down on a mistake than admit it...
@adamryerson2974
@adamryerson2974 Жыл бұрын
That’s where the controversy begins… not firing like some cowboy at the ok corral ???
@josephbucci484
@josephbucci484 Жыл бұрын
No they didn’t make a mistake those are their guidelines and I’d agree those come off a common base. B&C rewards tall times and symmetry. It also rewards “air” in giving a crap about spread. Buck Masters scoring system I think is much better in rewarding what a deer actually grew.
@Blackknifestudios24
@Blackknifestudios24 Жыл бұрын
B&C makes giant deer small
@blobbydigital5610
@blobbydigital5610 Жыл бұрын
I watched this whole video and didn’t understand any of it 😂
@redfrog5515
@redfrog5515 Жыл бұрын
What a buck! I have hunted deer for 55+ yrs. Shot some good bucks too. My problem is, I have seen way bigger bucks that I never was able to get a clean shot on. That includes Mule deer, whitetail and blacktail. The biggest blacktail I have ever seen would be a world record and I have fed him apples out of my hand for 3 years on private property…I could never shoot him….how messed up is that…?
@danielfinke6677
@danielfinke6677 Жыл бұрын
Mistake was made. The centerline of the base of each tine intersects with the centerline of it’s main beam before intersecting any other tine.
@brodycampbell2990
@brodycampbell2990 Жыл бұрын
Politics!! That’s what it comes down to. Those guys scoring at B&C can say whatever they want as to how this or that doesn’t match typical racks. It’s all in who you know and blow now days!
@brodycampbell2990
@brodycampbell2990 2 ай бұрын
@ whatever you say pal
@ronniemoosomin6062
@ronniemoosomin6062 Жыл бұрын
Hard to beat the Hanson Buck 🦌 New York is big but this is Biggar
@001tracker001
@001tracker001 Жыл бұрын
Scored by the rules. 🤯 That many shots with a rifle?! 🥴😂
@Dick-qc3oi
@Dick-qc3oi Ай бұрын
You ever shoot a moving target with open iron sights at 100 yards?
@mattswisher1
@mattswisher1 5 ай бұрын
To be honest the Hanson buck has no doubts that thing is perfect
@TrumanOutdoors
@TrumanOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yes mistake! I would argue those r not shared bases
@joefico4801
@joefico4801 Жыл бұрын
Not wide enough to beat Milo !
@DavidCundiff-fx2mm
@DavidCundiff-fx2mm 5 ай бұрын
I'm from OHIO. they don't want that RECORD BUCK to be #1 typical. But it is !!!!!!
@rammuchewicz8045
@rammuchewicz8045 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else wonder how it was plated?
@jk-kr8jt
@jk-kr8jt Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of this buck or hunter. I would hope there is nothing fishy going on. If so B&C should close up shop.
@shelbycrowder4462
@shelbycrowder4462 Жыл бұрын
Whenwas it score what the final score
@ljbenson3111
@ljbenson3111 Жыл бұрын
Hey that’s my birthday lol 😂
@Beard120
@Beard120 Жыл бұрын
“And he lined up the iron sights on his 30-30” Proceeds to show him shooting with a scope.
@jackyhallmark3094
@jackyhallmark3094 Жыл бұрын
I've had a buck fall into the same points with bases in common situation. Cy Curtis. ( Oklahoma ) system scores the same way
@joefico4801
@joefico4801 6 ай бұрын
B & C explained why it downgraded the buck assuming you trust the B & C.
@bigmike3250
@bigmike3250 Жыл бұрын
Angel Hernandez moonlights as an official B&C scorer?
@truepatriots3860
@truepatriots3860 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Johnny needs practice at the range .
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