Expect A Very Sharp Price! (Kia EV5 2024 Review Walkaround)

[@chasingcars]

Chasing Cars understands the starting price of the EV5 will be less than $60,000 AUD (before on-road costs) - that's $40K USD. With 10,000 units on the way to Australia - more than 5x as many EV6s sold in this country last year - Kia will need to give the EV5 a big push in the pricing stakes against the Tesla Model Y.

[@mycyclingdisorder]

Well, (price not withstanding) It sits ahead of of pretty much all the other EVs I have looked into. Mind you, if Rivian did a RHD and wanted to bring some to Australia I'd be on that like ants on cake.

[@alexishart1989]

Over $60k drive-away won't be a game changer.

[@Tellyawhat4]

And we all know how much ants love their cake!!!!​@@mycyclingdisorder

[@robadobdob]

Price just announced here in NZ - NZ$67,990 for the Light base model with an 88Kw/h LFP battery. Makes it directly competitive with the Model Y now.

[@rickchen8575]

Interesting, this car is made in china, selling for $32,000 AUD in china; while we will pay double as a very sharp price

[@chasingcars]

Pricing in the Chinese market isn't really comparable to anywhere else in the world, because local manufacturers dump enormous supply at very low prices.

[@leedaq7767]

welcome to aussie shipping tax LOLLL

[@rickchen8575]

@@chasingcars Model Y made in China, selling for $55,000 AUD in China, we pay $65,000 in Australia. So comparing to Kia’s very sharp price, what Tesla is doing, they are selling Model Y too too cheap

[@lluow]

I’d say let all Chinese car makers in. Let competition push the prices down. We no longer make any cars anyway. Why do we keep gates for the legacy car makers? Sick of getting ripped off.

[@leedaq7767]

@@lluow problem is our government not the market

[@lireus166]

The 2nd row legroom is impressive, compared with CX5 in similar overall size👍

[@livelifestyle2269]

Cooling seats?????? In Australia we need it Or do I need to buy BYD seal u?

[@andreasl4507]

Buy Polestar 3 or 4. Dont be a sheep

[@livelifestyle2269]

@andreasl4507 sheep ..... 🐑 I just don't want to spend that much on a car ( I don't have that much to spend on a car )

[@sydjaguar]

LFP is much safer than NMC as well.

[@hishamg]

It terms of size it looks like it slots in in between the Kia EV6 and the Kia Niro EV.

[@StevenG89]

Kia Niro is already over $70k...unless they do something about that or discontinue it altogether then I don't see how the larger EV5 can be under $60k.

[@chasingcars]

If I was a betting man, I'd suggest the Niro EV isn't going to be hanging around much longer.

[@bretleversha]

What about the front?! Frunk?

[@JA-yc2zz]

Does it have a frunk?

[@chasingcars]

Yes there is.

[@sad6549775]

Likely useless. That is why I like videos where the journalists can touch the car. Not read the PR spin.

[@aoh4905]

@@sad6549775 It's a frunk bro relax...

[@thelorax9622]

You say you don't know the "litreage" of the storage area - how about taking this opportunity to curtail this meaningless process and provide the actual measurement of the dimensions in cm or mm, which regular humans can use to decide if something will fit. I need a vehicle that can fit something 6ft long behind the front seats - volume is no help at all.

[@jonoc9943]

Surprised you didn't compare it to the Hyundai Kona Electric - are they not comparable? From memory it might be pricier, but I thought the Model Y is a similar price here in Aus? Interested to know if you get a space saver/goo kit or a frunk. Surprised there's not more concrete details especially on range given production is already underway in China?

[@andreasl4507]

Trash va

[@Pekka_323]

The economy is not working. Way too expensive in this category. There are many other options for that price.

[@trailerparkboysbestshow3327]

"made in china" just removed this car for all living in the EU with the new tax law :S

[@TheSukiebapswent]

Slavishly following the US in their brain dead isolationism to all our detriment

[@gs9771]

$30k USD for Kia EV5

[@akis.4493]

I wish.

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

Sharp pricing in AU, that's rubbish, EV5 starts in China at 149,800 Yuan or AU$31017, if AU is over $60,000 it wont sell, looks like KIA Korea are ripping off Australians by overpricing the AU version to make up for the low pricing of the Chinese local version, Not a good move KIA for your reputation, example Tesla Model Y Rear wheel AU$55,900, Chinese version 249,900 Yuan or AU $51700 converted,, does KIA think we are that stupid, my recommendation is for Aussies to not buy the EV5 and let KIA know why, teach KIA a lesson to not rip us off, once they have so much excess stock sitting idle they will bring the price down.

[@martinclarke974]

EV5 is making the Model Y look dated!

[@kyliefan7]

Wasn’t the Kia EV6 a Tesla Model Y competitor???

[@rogersmith5371]

Kia seem to be going big in the EV market with the EV6, 9 and now 5. The first two models are well out of reach as affordable vehicles. If the EV 5 comes in at $65K drive away it will also be out of reach as affordable. I say this because the median price paid for a new car is around $40K - you're going to need to save a lot on fuel and servicing to reach the extra $25K. Given that it is made in China where labour costs are presumably lower than Korea I don't understand the pricing. BYD, MG and ORA have all shown that EVs can be made for around $45k that's the price where lots will be sold and manufacturers will meet the NVES and avoid penalties.

[@chasingcars]

While your point definitely has merit, the average new car transaction price in Australia in 2023 was $50,000, not $40,000.

[@Twopeetfeet]

I think the fallacy here is that labour costs are the driver of low prices. The world at large needs to start adjusting and waking up to the fact that China has scale, IP and control of key supply chains that bring down manufacturing unit costs down significantly. Yes, I agree labour is a factor but automation, scale and supply chains are a bigger factor here. Add in some subsisidies from industrial policy and you have an EV juggernaut. There's a reason why GM and Ford are so keen on getting CATL to either set up a JV factory in US or license their technology if not.

[@rogersmith5371]

I'm sure you are closer to the datathan I am. Canstar put the figure at In 2023, Australians spent an average of $37,362 on new cars, according to a survey by Canstar Blue. Here’s a breakdown by car type:@@chasingcars

[@rickchen8575]

⁠​⁠@@chasingcarsSo because the 2023 median price is $50000, the new EV need to be priced above it, why is that? Why not $40000

[@tooltalk]

The Korean manufacturers in China aren't illegally subsidized by the Chinese gov't. Hyundai/Kia lost 90% of Chinese market share in just a few years under Xi's Made-In-China 2025.

[@anthonywalsh2164]

So $60k is “lower end”? Unbelievable.

[@topher.m]

Since 2020 the game has changes. Remember, A top of the line Yaris Cross is $50+

[@andreasl4507]

This car is china car and cost $26k there

[@barakathegenius]

@@andreasl4507 It actually costing US $ 19,500/ base model

[@davidgrieve7691]

Can we dispell the LFP = 100% mantra! No lithuim battery "should" be charged and left at 100%, that increases degradation, no matter the chemistry. LFP has a very flat voltage curve in the middle, and it only really changes at both extremes of SOC. Hence with a buffer, a LFP BMS finds it hard to track SOC unless you get near the top or bottom, and relies on "electron counting". Overtime this inaccurancy in "electron counting" adds up and the SOC becomes unknown, which can mean running out of charge unexpectedly. So the manufactures don't need to deal with the headache, they say charge to 100% regularly. Not to protect the battery, or because it is OK, but because they can't track SOC otherwise. In practice, don't charge a LFP to 100% every day, every time, unless you need to of course. Charge to 80-90, and every week or so before a trip charge to 100 if you want to extend battery life. Same issue with NCA if you only charge to a low SOC regularly, like 60%. The voltage rise at 60% is low, and the BMS can lose track of the actual SOC if you just use the 40 to 60% range for example.

[@matthewmanzi9504]

You are correct in most but also it doesn’t matter. Charging to 100 percent should still give you close to a million KM on the batteries. Even poor LFP batteries should get 2000 to 3000 cycles when charging to full but good ones should get over 10k cycles. It really doesn’t matter what your charging habits are with a good LFP battery.

[@davidgrieve7691]

@@matthewmanzi9504 Thanks for the comment. Very rare to find someone in the space who actually understands the subject matter - but I'd advise against 100% charging and leaving. It should be fine if you daily trip and charge overnight though. It's not the charge to 100% that is the problem, it's the time spent at a high voltage (and high temp). Lab cycle tests don't generally include sitting at 100%.

[@바람-t4b]

Hyundai and Kia are NCM

[@surle9148]

@@davidgrieve7691 is it true that LFP batteries have longer cycles compared to Lithium ion?

[@jaalittle2814]

Yes, its more expensive than a similar segment (Sportage), it will have much more interior space, better drive, and be much much cheaper ongoing running costs which can save around $3k-$5k annually depending upon kms travelled. This is another important step in making EVs mainstream.

[@vustatube]

It's not similar. Sportage is hybrid, not even a plug in hybrid. This is a full electric vehicle lol EVs will always cost significantly more than a hybrid. If you're not sure a hybrid vehicle still has an engine and still requires fuel. EVs run on battery only with no engine

[@dcartier1692]

FWD - will that be the story for the whole rest of their upcoming EV range?

[@AP-hs9dv]

The rear wiper has disappeared. It was definitely there on some videos filmed in China. Hopefully it will reappear.

[@andreasl4507]

Trash car.

[@jeffleszczynski618]

isn't it tucked away under the rear spoiler, like the Sportage and Sorento?

[@andreasl4507]

@@jeffleszczynski618 no. The car is shit

[@aoh4905]

@@andreasl4507 We get it your Chinese.. stop spamming on everyone's comments. It only makes YOU look bad.

[@ronan4681]

BYD Seal performance seems better value

[@바람-t4b]

Buy a lot of lithium batteries. Hyundai and Kia are NCM.

[@mycyclingdisorder]

If KIA's EV5 price announcement for NZ (base model $67,990 Plus ORC) is any indicator I can't see anyone getting overly excited, particularly when the Chinese market can own the same model at base price of AUD$32K. I'm out for sure...

[@Reddylion]

Kia ev 5 good. Now in hindustan south.

[@JackSht-lv2on]

Looks un finished. Maybe paint it to resemble a block of cheese (Swiss cheese?)😮

[@genieb]

Love it, can't wait to get it over in NZ (supposedly very soon). It does look a lot like the EV9 (I had a quick drive in one the other day !!).

[@lexnite22]

I wonder what will be in the ev5 GT-line, looking forward to it then will decide which one to purchase.

[@Tellyawhat4]

I heard it had a fridge! Where's the fridge for the brewskies and some stubby holders?

[@sydryan9589]

My next new car!

[@christover1]

Its rough road credibility is my main concern. Ground clearance and traction aids need to be good.

[@Richard-sl8we]

Hi Olek, when is the EV5 due to launch in Australia; is there a fixed date yet?

[@FilmScape4K]

pass - cheap hard plastics all around.

[@youtuberpov]

Darn this means $70k++ NZD 😢

[@MartinWise-b4g]

This car is as cute as you😃🇦🇺👍

[@Raturidesagain]

EV9 and this have charge ports on right hand side of vehicle. Surely could do better for countries with left hand drive?

[@andreasl4507]

Ye. Stupid cars Kia.

[@andreasl4507]

Buy tesla or Polestar.

[@livelifestyle2269]

Love the table tho..

[@honeyisaac]

I rather pay more for korean made

[@aq3614]

Chinese made Tesla are the best quality ones, much better than the US made ones

[@chriskabacznik2422]

Great review, Olek!

[@johnhedge1429]

V2G?

[@DMulabiTalejan]

Very pleased with the colourful interior, much-needed break from the dreaful blacks and greys. And oh, i like the third seat in front. We will definately use it for passengers🤩

[@mannbat]

So basically it's an expensive Atto3?

[@avonperera2187]

With a better interior and warranty

[@chasingcars]

It's quite a bit larger than an Atto 3 (4615mm long vs 4455mm long) - and I suppose it depends on whether you think the Kia brand and warranty is worth perhaps $8-12K more.

[@leedaq7767]

if we are getting LFP battery then KIA is making a big mistake I will wait better cobalt battery

[@DeRhamme]

LOL

[@xan2242]

U lost me at the made in China part

[@Darrenraitt]

Like it or not most of our cars will be made in China looking forward...

[@Twopeetfeet]

And also like it or not, they are leading the EV race. If you follow their manufacturer's and industry progress with an open mind, you'll understand that they are making very respectable cars that are getting the Europeans very nervous. Don't be like the fella that used to laugh at the Japanese back in the 80s with their Datsuns and the Koreans in the 90s with the Hyundai Excel.

[@aq3614]

You are simply out of date, China now is leading in many ways in the car industry, let alone other industry