Experts question use of concrete wall at South Korean airport | NewsNation Now

[@MosesMal0n3]

You don’t need to be an “expert” to question a concrete wall at the end of a runway

[@robdog979]

It was at the beginning of the runaway

[@antbrown9066]

Correct

[@reardelt]

Well then you are just saying the South Korean aviation department is stupid

[@antbrown9066]

@@reardelt a concrete impenetrable wall at the end of a runway is stupid. Yes. Stupid. Whoever ordered this yes…. It was stupid

[@anthonytran7566]

@@sncy5303 If the runway is BIDERECTIONAL then the wall should NEVER been there !!!!!

[@cosplayshop]

As one commenter stated (Forgot where I saw it) That airport essentially handing out death sentence to anyone and everyone who overrun the runway with that concrete bream.

[@eddiemglass]

Did these 'experts' question the reason for a wall being there BEFORE the crash?

[@maxamps45]

experts agree with the people who give them money.

[@WrexBF]

Behind that wall there is a long and flat field. Everybody would've survived.

[@jaybae5850]

I wonder who South Korea will hold responsible for this fiasco.

[@jacksalami9945]

Kim Jong Un ?

[@lordjim3109]

the birds

[@joshsanford3576]

Chaebols. They run the whole country.

[@mikeyankofsky8003]

It’s Trump’s fault of course 😂

[@TheOrigamiPeople]

Alfred Hitchcock‘S Birds.

[@barabbasrosebud9282]

Concrete walls and aircraft are BFF.

[@craig7350]

That wall looks like the ones you see at test ranges where they slam rocket sleds into them.

[@TheBmco99]

@@craig7350 must be some pretty good concrete didn’t look like it moved up much if any

[@craig7350]

@@TheBmco99 Any concrete work I've done, it was always spec'd to counter a particular load. So what was this built for? To stop an airplane? It worked.

[@GoodlifeInvestor]

I Hope they don’t start rebuilding that wall before the next flight.

[@RacingRob301]

the landing gear possibly could have taken the brunt of the impact and the aircraft was likely higher than the brick wall with landing gear deployed. While it still could have been bad , I don't think it would have been as bad.

[@lawrencedavidson6195]

737 landing gears are very short, having the gear down would have made no difference in the outcome.

[@BigBisalreadytaken]

Welcome to the land of "not quite right". The pilot didn't try to manually extend the landing gear or control surfaces? There are three hydraulic systems on that plane for the gear. The pilot rushed the landing.

[@stevep7713]

You also dont have to be an expert to know that landing without the gear down is a huge problem

[@mikelumbreras4903]

Concrete wall or not the speed that plane was traveling at this point wouldn't change much.

[@stevep7713]

Nice to see someone with common sense. Everyone acting like the pilot belly landing it more than halfway down the runway at way over landing speed had nothing to do with this.

[@visigoth3696]

It would save more lives? Isn’t that enough?

[@visigoth3696]

@@sncy5303 exactly people act like with no landing gear it’s a death sentence, that barrier killed those people

[@GeeGee19]

Exactly because after the concrete wall there was a huge metal fence and the street. It should have landed in the water like Sullivan did in new York city a few years ago. Good pilots make good decisions in bad situations. Dumping the fuel and landing in the water was the right choice.

[@henryhsu1614]

Do not focus on the wall

[@ReneeBachtel]

Exactly!....many airports have walls, localizers..nothing new..I believe it was a pilot's error possibly he demobilized the wrong engine during his intense & panic state..that's why the landing gear & flaps failed to deploy....Totally devastated😔

[@Gus1966-c9o]

Did you not listen to Sean ?

[@nyxiebrizto]

Yup it's concrete not a wall

[@templar1694]

The bird strike or what ever they hit above and what ever the pilot had done wrong from landing the aircraft is survivable. The concrete mound/wall is certainly what cause the overall damage.

[@GoodlifeInvestor]

I’m sure there must be some other reason for that wall, I’ve heard that South Koreans aren’t dumb people, they are quite smart

[@spegasus25]

They are truly dumb people, cause by typhon the localizer each time become damage, so local authority in the island order to build it Permanent so not easy damage by tyhon, so disaster happened And Save budget ( excessive cutting budget )

[@Pepe46873]

What airport is built for an airplane to go off a runway at 150mph with no landing gear or flaps?

[@GauntletKI]

How many airports have concrete aircraft destroyers at the end of the runway. Is it actually standard?

[@Garmonbozia]

No.

[@takezoaudio]

that field looks to be below runway level and/or marshland, susceptible to flooding during heavy rain season

[@mizziti]

i question "landing" with no landing gear directly into a wall. what the f, couldn't the plane approach from the good side?

[@reardelt]

The pilots landed in the middle of the runway, which of course means there won't be enough runway left to slow down. So it's not just the barrier's fault

[@antbrown9066]

Correct. Totally agree.

[@kt3076]

Why are they focused on a bird strike when a cement wall caused the damage? who approve the concrete wall should be jailed.

[@jayceecee8651]

Was that even an open runway? Was it closed off?

[@z.k.6686]

Pilot’s error or not, the casualties would definitely have been different if there is no concrete barrier.

[@DudeFrom1972]

I wonder why the terrain is so smooth at the end of the runway ! wouldn't it be better to have a surface which provide resistance against the fuselage like for example a long trench filled with pebble stone in order to slow it down ?

[@christopherfidler3019]

I guess drones the size of SUV's floating above Military installations is old news?

[@alanstevens1296]

It wasn't "at the end of the runway." The embankment is 250 meters or 800 feet from the end of the runway. That is a long way from the end of the runway. If the plane hadn't been going 150 mph on the ground 800 feet after the end of the runway all those people could have walked away from that plane. At that speed it would go another 800+ feet and almost certainly crash into something else along the way. Building, wall, storage tanks, embankment, ditch, waterway, highway, tractor-trailer, train, retaining wall, are some of the possibilities at airports.

[@nancyk8153]

Bird strikes are survivable, losing one engine is survivable, landing on the belly of the plane is survivable, no landing gear is survivable, landing at high speed is survivable but ........ a Boeing plane hitting a concrete wall is fatal! Where is the safe zone at this airport????

[@stephencoleclough7988]

So sad. Everything appears to be survivable but for a concrete wall

[@brianlain4164]

The most important thing she said is it's not our country and we need to learn how to mind our own business. We can't even secure our own borders. Before you question another country fix your own first.

[@ekeomagodswill294]

Wall, Wall and Wall. Before it is pilot errors. Americans will never admit that Boeing had been building coffin called aeroplane.

[@AdamG.GoNavy.FlyNavy]

Instead of a concrete wall. Why don’t they use the same sand retention pits like they use on mountain highways for runaway trucks? Yeah it might damage the air craft. But it certainly will save more lives than a concrete wall.

[@kcook4243]

Why don’t the engines have grills on them to keep the birds out?

[@craytron1393]

All airports have some kind of perimeter fences don't they? The solution calls for EMAS deceleration material at the end of shorter runways. However, such material methods are designed for wheels down configuration, not belly landings. A lot airports have berms at the end of the runways including LAX.

[@pohanahawaii]

😔 Hindsight is 20/20.

[@UFOpilot.]

too much fire in this crash. must be all the liquor on the plane or they forgot to dump the fuel before landing. PEACE.

[@rochelle2269]

Dump the fuel? Why would a plane dump fuel?

[@lordjim3109]

Even if the pilots made 200 more mistakes than we know of right now and even if all onboard systems failed, including the toilet soap dispenser, the plane touched the ground undamaged and everybody on board was in good shape. Seconds later they were all killed by a bunker wall that should never be there. End of story.

[@aaronaustrie]

Maybe pilot error 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@HopefulAmericaine]

Most of S korean airports are not built like this, so to over generalize the entire country as incompetent based on one lousy built airport (like the freeways in nj) seems to go off topic. We can discuss the wall without unnecessary input

[@1ndragunawan]

According to the South Korean government, Yeosu and Pohang airports have similar structures. This Muan airport has the highest bird strike statistics compared to other regional airports in SK.

[@jgrazzi]

They’re not experts if they can’t discern between a concrete wall and a berm with ILS antennas mounted onto a concrete foundation. The concrete perimeter wall was behind the berm and the plane disintegrated before getting to the wall.

[@TheOrigamiPeople]

It looks like Angry Birds designed the run off wall.

[@Starfish2145]

Right??? 😢

[@kikiryki]

Why aren't discussions still public between pilots and ATC? Why is it a secret? Would it come out somehow that the Korean pilots are discouraged by the airline they are working for to state coherently and completely the problems they face during the flight or what? Besides "we hit birds" what did the pilots tell ATC that it didn't work ?? Why is final approach transponder data not available from which we can deduce the progressive drop in landing speed ?? Where did they disappear to ??

[@johnbravo7542]

I would like to know why runways dont have a gravel pit like western countries do for trucks going down steep declines that may lose their brakes or just lose control.

[@markrigg6623]

I thought it was just Roger Waters setting up for a concert.

[@reeva5735]

WHY question the wall when everybody knows how it ended. The REAL question is WHY the landing gear was non responsive on approach PLUS the engine incident during go-around!! No wheels, NO BRAKES. It was never going to end well, sadly.

[@mangagoybislig622]

NTSB always reactive ie “berm”. No “dolphins” huge container ship 🚢 struck the massive bridge & collapsed (main engine/jets casualties)

[@mykedenie]

20 decades lol.

[@MinhCarpenter-r8f]

❤❤❤😢😢😢😢😢

[@ILoveCrepes601]

I question why the plane finally hit the runway with maybe half of not less of the 9000 foot runway. Again unless they shut down the wrong engine and shut both down shutting down the hydraulics this is 100% pilot error to the fullest or improper training. Birds are taking to much blame. This happens in states and Canada frequently and no issue with emergency landings. Now we are to believe one engine down causes catastrophic failure GTFO 😂

[@fabienmerteuil6226]

Their approach is the wrong way round. If they were approaching South to North instead of North to South there would be no reinforced wall, they would have ended up in the fence and water instead. Imagine if these pilots killed the wrong engine (and forgot the landing gear) “experts” are still going on about “the wall”😂

[@ihn2023]

There should be no wall on either side, because in emergency situations there most likely not be enough time or capacity to turn the flight around :/

[@amelghrici3408]

SOS Gaza save childrens

[@GuardianOfGalaxyV2]

They were killed by faulty landing gear ⚙️

[@EleventhMonkey]

It didn't hit the concrete wall.

[@Garmonbozia]

Ehm say what...?

[@EleventhMonkey]

@Garmonbozia it didn't hit the perimeter wall. It was the concrete foundations for the landing system that tore the aircraft apart igniting the fuel. The wall wasn't the problem, and you'll find perimeter walls, mounds built for sound pollution, roads, sheer drops etc. at thousands of airports that fly commercial flights. This isn't the first time this has happened with regard to airport boundaries terrain, nor landing systems on the ground playing apart in the incident. To blame a wall is ridiculous. Airports are well regulated, as was this one. But yeah that damn wall right!? 😂

[@ChristopherDolle]

There’s a military base there maybe the concrete barrier is protecting something, get all the facts first before you go spouting off.

[@crazyralph6386]

The concrete barrier was installed to save money from continuous damage on the localizer antenna from typhoons. Like everything else, trying to save a buck will cost more in the end.

[@davegerke]

Why is it OUR CONCERN? ITS NONE of our business...let other countries make their own mistakes

[@groveh1]

Because my job may send me to South Korea for work - I may bring a family.

[@pumpkinchucker4953]

The safety of international travel is everyone's business.

[@kevingraham3161]

It's everyone's business, aviation is International and needs to be investigated

[@jaybae5850]

What rock do you live under? Most of us travel internationally.

[@paddybrady5874]

What a stupid thing to say you be one of the egg heads agreeing with the concrete wall idea

[@BePositive1984]

It’s not one of the scariest videos I’ve seen online but it’s up there!☝️ 🤚🏻 🦵