Explained: The NEW Champions League, Europa League & Europa Conference League format 😮🗂️

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Sky Sports' Chief Reporter Kaveh Solhekol explains the drastic new format changes to UEFA's three major European tournaments.
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[@ThaOneBigAndSmallOne]

Who is here after all premier league teams were eliminated & German „farmer league“ might have 6 teams in champions league LMAO

[@TankJr.]

🤡

[@gurung1812]

cry harder efl fan

[@Wardell.Koloi10037]

Lol this falls on the FA and their stubbornness prioritising Carabao cups when they should belong to lower leagues

[@MrSuperMichel1997]

I'm here right before the second leg happens between PSG & BVB, funny to see this!

[@jminjarez7206]

I’m here laughing at this clown after BVB advances to the final lol Heja BVB🖤💛

[@joeg5688]

You're not fooling anyone with this super league nonsense.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

This is uefa last chance to hold off the clubs breaking away from their control. The big clubs want more big matches between each other and this format is designed to give them that.

[@Mdksupreme1]

This literally balances out everything and makes it far more entertaining, you are just too slow to see it

[@roychen5235]

​@magicboy-cn1yb it's only about the money because it's big matches the rest of the world wants to see.

[@roychen5235]

​@bionicgeekgrrl at it's worst (other than the harm of more games) its smaller clubs giving up some revenue for the chance to actually win games. If you're a fan of a smaller club and you're happy to get mauled by real madrid in exchange for an extra bit of cash, over a game you can actually win, you've got no pride as a football fan.

[@Trac3r.]

it isn't ESL this new format of CL works well in simulation I know I been Simming it

[@marlonherr8013]

RIP good old Champions League times

[@predatorx8081]

Fr... this is utter bs

[@caven7056]

This is better.

[@theghostofbabanovac7069]

@@caven7056 this is way worse, other teams besides the ones from England, France, Spain, Italy & Germany will barely have chances to qualify

[@caven7056]

@@theghostofbabanovac7069 don't pretend as if you give a crap about leagues that aren't from the big 6/7. Who watches the polish league

[@theghostofbabanovac7069]

@@caven7056 I would watch Legia, Lech or Wisla in a league of their own if they were able to retain players like Lewandowski, Zielinski, Kiwior or Zalewski or i would watch a Dinamo Zagreb side with Modric, Lovren and Brozovic playing in Europe if i knew they have the best players from Croatia in their ranks but in order for these clubs to do that they need to have money and in order to have money they need a decent opportunity, chance to compete at a higher level....oh wait that's not happening so i guess there is a vicious system in place that favors the rich clubs. Do you mean to tell me that a Red Star Belgrade team from 1991 with a world class midfield comprised of Sinisa Mihajlovic, Vladimir Jugovic, Robert Prosinecki and Dejan Savicevic wasn't more exciting to watch than a Tottenham vs Newcastle ? But those were the old days when things were much fairer, i say let's bring back the foreigner limit (no more than 3 or 2 foreigners per squad or per 1st eleven) and see then how much c...p will you give to many football clubs from the big 6/7.

[@djmattblack]

No doubt managers next season will complain there's too many matches

[@bushmonster1702]

there are

[@caven7056]

Rotate

[@kleec495]

@@caven7056 Not every teams are Man City.

[@Jout8-re1ij]

Eight matches up from six in group stage is not that much more, when its only two games more, but weird how they added round of 32 technically, because the 9-24 placed teams will play against eachother twice, unitil the winner gets to play in the round of 16.

[@Thomas-zs5wt]

​@@Jout8-re1ijthey added the round of 32 because they had an unnecessary amount of teams that nobody likes in a changed format nobody wanted

[@horacioderpington5698]

Thanks, I hate it!

[@Mdksupreme1]

That's cus you don't like football, this is an objective improvement

[@Diogo85]

​@@Mdksupreme1 No. You can like football and not like this new format.

[@arkangel2000]

we dont like American football format. thanx.@@Mdksupreme1

[@Mdksupreme1]

@Diogo85 this format is objectively an improvement, you're just slow if you don't like it and you claim you like football

[@horacioderpington5698]

@@Mdksupreme1 are you good mate? You're fighting the opinion of a rando online with such vitriol I'm starting to think you're an Infantino burner account.

[@ventsislavyuzekchiev8304]

The only thing a don't like is that they want to give one more place for top 5 leagues, instead of giving it to a real Champions like in Poland, Czechia etc

[@TheOriginalEwan]

Never been a comment I agreed with so much before in my life. We’re supposed to believe this is the ‘champions’ league yet there’s more losers in here, who finished as far down as 5th domestically, than actual champions, who have to settle for a 3rd tier competition just to get European games under their belt.

[@sahibsahota2368]

The 10th team in the premier league is significantly better than the champions of Czechia or Poland

[@ventsislavyuzekchiev8304]

@@sahibsahota2368 that’s not the point isn’t. It’s called the “ Champions “ League and teams from 5th place will qualify while the real champions need to go through qualifiers. How the football in the Eastern Europe or other countries can compete against top 5 when they don’t let them to win money

[@sach98]

@@ventsislavyuzekchiev8304 unfortunate reality is that most viewers want to see top 5 league teams play

[@TheOriginalEwan]

@@sach98 TL;DR “I prefer seeing xyz club” is a dumb argument. personally I’m sick of seeing the same 20+ teams play each other in the same group/knockout round every single season. Idc if more people wanna see Liverpool(serial PL losers) play Athletico Madrid every year. People wonder why clubs from Northern Ireland or Lichtenstein never get into Europe, it’s because they have to play 6-8 games home and away just to get into the _group stage,_ where they’ll be handed an impossible group because they’re so far down the coefficient rankings. They can’t get better if they’re annually put against richer clubs that get byes to the later rounds.

[@user-vd4jc8ws2k]

Football does not need to change. Uefa are casually playing fifa career mode with everyone

[@abody499]

"it's generally accepted that the group stages of the CL are not as exciting as they should be" This is because English clubs buy all the best players from around Europe, weakening a lot of teams in the champions league whose best players often go and play for clubs who aren't in the champions league. Football needs to change.

[@roychen5235]

​@@abody499they aren't boring because the best players aren't playing in them. They're boring because if you're the worst team in a group, the only thing you can realistically play for is to drop down to Europa.

[@abody499]

@roychen5235 Why do you think Sevilla, Benfica, Lens, Salzburg, Feyenoord, Shakhtar, and others could only "realistically play...to drop down to Europa"? And it's not just those teams - even the better teams like Porto, Leipzig, and PSV lose their best players to English teams not playing in the CL. The quality of the teams playing in the CL has dropped in recent years because of this. It used to be more skewed towards the mid teams losing players to the top teams, then the mid teams buying from those below them, but now there are more and more players going to mid English clubs from all but the very top teams. That's why it would be better to watch the top 16 teams in 2 leagues of 8 playing each other home and away with the top 4 in each league going to a knockout phase. And in the new CL format, there's no balance of home and away fixtures against the same teams.

[@Jout8-re1ij]

Football has always changed over time. Maybe you are too young to see the last time Champions League changed. I think this might be even bit better, because in the small groups you already know who will go through and who dosent, so its not that exciting to follow them, while in this big league we can see how well the clubs are currently preforming at football by seeing how many points they snatch after eight games with eight diffrent opponents.

[@KC_604]

@@abody499it’s cuz the leagues they play in either laliga or serie A only have a handful of top clubs competing for the league title race atleast in the EPL you can be a mega star and still have good stats while playing on a mid team which is alot more rewarding financially and legacy wise other then staying in a league where Madrid and Barca or ac and inter all are at the top of there leagues every season so I’d want to go to the premier league to if I was on athletico ,Dormundt, etc a team that’s good but not good enough to do anything in there own leagues regardless of how well they do in the UCL

[@simonb1996]

It's not fair for the top leagues to have so many teams. The financial gap between these clubs and great clubs of old is too big as it is, due to those clubs of old not being able to qualify as it is.

[@roychen5235]

Not really, England has to actually play for an extra spot. Right now, the top 5 leagues don't have to care about their coefficient (I.e., making their domestic leagues competitive).

[@StephenWong14]

If you don't like, then you should probably support the Super League where teams from the top league break away from the Champions League and form their own leagues. There are then more places for the champions of smaller nations to play in the Champions League.

[@TheRealCurtisWright]

The fact that UEFA said “why would we rig the draw at the league stage?” just admits their guilt to rigging the system at some point 😂

[@roychen5235]

Everyone can see the system is rigged. The big clubs don't face each other in the group stage right now. Most of the people in these comments are complaining about things that already happen in the current format.

[@TheRealCurtisWright]

@@roychen5235 100%, you see it every year. Everyone knew City would draw Copenhagen this year

[@roughead6469]

Translation: we will rig the knockout stages

[@caven7056]

@TheRealCurtisWright wow do you even understand how the pots work?

[@greenjacketman9321]

@@roychen5235 Bro that's because for the draw they're divided in different pots 🤦‍♂

[@Froxdj]

this is stupid, lost me after the league stage, feel sorry for the players, so many games.

[@alexanderivkin7086]

Yes, 4 more games if you finish 9-24. 2 more games if you finish 1-8. Conclusion: Win all 8 games!

[@johnhonai4601]

The problem is you are ranked in a league table in which you don't play all teams in the league. That's unfair.

[@DaxRaider]

they get millions and still no bigger risk then in some other hard working jobs that paid minimum wage xD

[@user-rz9od5rz7v]

If it wasn’t about money… why does the conference league only still play 6 games

[@someguy.3486]

Because the pot system is different

[@thedethrocker8858]

Yeah you've been told!!! 😂😂😂

[@MarkSide4245]

This is dumb, we need to protest.

[@Michael-cz6ob]

Nobody protested about the corruption of the world cup being hosted in Russia, Qatar and soon to be Saudi Arabia. You think they'll do it for this? Football fans are weak, they'll ignore most things as long as there's matches to be watched

[@MarkSide4245]

@@Michael-cz6ob They can’t be getting away with this!!! 😫😭😭

[@viper2413]

@@Michael-cz6obThey tried it with Qatar but then all those who argued against it also turned up. Money talks…

[@alexsilk2611]

​@@Michael-cz6obnobody protested? Plenty of fans did. People just didn't listen

[@Michael-cz6ob]

@@alexsilk2611 When you say 'protested' do you mean just complained on the Internet? Just falls on death ears. Look at the viewership for the Qatar World Cup it was still high viewing figures so they know regardless how much people complain they'll still watch

[@iamcosta]

Uefa will rigged the draws imagine Aston Villa vs Real Madrid 😂. That's not gonna sell as Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid or Inter Milan

[@danh945]

Aston Villa wouldn't be in pot 1.

[@caven7056]

Tell me you don't know ball

[@justinsm]

Aston can't won EPL now. Pot 1 the best pot consist of UCL, UEL, and top 7 league winner. For now those pots would filled with Inter, Leverkusen, and PSG. (real Madrid, PSV, and Sporting might have huge potential but let's say if PSG won UCL or Leverkusen won UEL the spot would given to 8th league champions which most likely Union this season)

[@DaxRaider]

@@justinsm union what ? you expect us to know what the 8th league is ? xD

[@DarreBet]

why why destroy something good?

[@piotrhrybkowski6360]

It is horrible. Boring as hell.

[@Szobo81]

How do you make the top teams happy by giving more games to play risking more injuries

[@roychen5235]

The managers will complain because it makes their jobs much harder but for the clubs more games = more money. That'd be the case no matter who they play (see preseason friendlies).

[@kleec495]

More games > more money > better players and bigger squad ideally

[@oliverhughes419]

Money

[@dragonslayer0]

​@@kleec495not on a stretcher or with crutches

[@alisalim9289]

Too complex. Let's wait and see how it pans out.

[@randomdaveUK]

It's actually more straightforward. It's just a league with cutoffs. No different to a lower league with playoffs. Top teams go to knockouts. Teams below have a one off match to get through. Others are out. Pretty simple. Not sure whether I prefer it, let's see what it's like

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

It's no more complicated after league phase. No home away with every team in smaller groups. Only ends up being 2 more games per team and they potentially have less travelling to worry about. Plus they get rid of dropping down the competition. So teams eliminated will have a lot less games, so staying in the competition will be even more important as they will risk huge drop offs in ma5ch and prize money.

[@Mdksupreme1]

It's not complex at all, you're just slow

[@roychen5235]

The end result is just a table of teams from 1-36. It gets more complex the more you care about trying to predict what the result will be. But at the end of the day it is just a table like any domestic league.

[@237gospel]

Real "Champions League"

[@chrisbarker890]

Are you serious???? The draw is made by a computer !!

[@alanfox691]

Basically read that as U.E.F.A. want to descise the reality if it being fixed so certain club's they favour more than others play each other when they need them to play each other to generate maximum revenue. This is all about revenue nothing else. Football in Europe is starting to lose all credibility there is to much money at stake now In European football I strongly suspect the mast majority of European Leagues are to some extent rigged.

[@imposter2.024]

Right like why fix something that is not broken this is not a good format

[@jameswright4236]

UEFA simply can't win. Do it digitally, there's claims of corruption. Do it manually, claims of corruption as the "hot balls" are supposedly avoided. Hence why I feel they should send it to an entirely independent third party. Hell, just go out and randomly pick someone off the street or someone that has no interest in the sport whatsoever so as to prevent claims of a fix.

[@AdamAzMcLean]

The same ‘computer’ processes helped you type that comment. The future is now.

[@bastian7pl]

This new system is only favorable to the owners. The fans, players, managers are extremely against it!

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

This is the entire point. It's uefas last dice roll against the big clubs taking their teams away from their control.

[@caven7056]

Don't speak for every fan. Some of us actually want to see bigger games

[@mezoori]

explain why you are against it

[@alanfox691]

​@@mezoori If you cant understand that then you have a massive problem that no one can ever help you with.

[@brandonjablasone7544]

@@alanfox691maybe you should explain instead of insulting. I see the problem but not everybody think like you. The only problem is that there are way too much game for the team and players. It's going to be a lot of injuries in the up coming years

[@Dinyo55]

The software has algorithms in it. As long as there are algorithms involved, you cannot guarantee a fair draw. Google AI proved that bias and nonsense can be factored into a software very easily.

[@jacksmith694]

But hey they have top accounting firms and more software to make sure they don’t get it wrong, we should be okay😂

[@aceking_offsuit]

In all fairness, the ones you're talking about involves aspects that are meant to interact with people and 'learn' from them. The systems that will be creating the schedules won't be doing any of that. They'll basically be doing combinatorics to create schedules that follow specific rules (2 from each group, no opponents from X league, etc.), which is what the algorithms are very good at.

[@gerit14]

AI != software With a simple algorithm you can surely make certain it is actually neutral.

[@superdrz2196]

I guess you are not a Fan of math

[@yawfraser]

They should have just kept the old format and just do away with teams falling from the Champions league to the Europa when they place 3rd

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

Yes, elimination should always have meant total elimination.

[@saidhammar5006]

Don't run from the topic please, it's not a problem of complexity. The league format will advantage giant teams, City will top that table every single season. Under dogs will never be able to make it. Big teams will play big teams everyday, killing the excitement of big games. And small teams will get back where they belong in the deep bottom of that table and will never reach the big stages again, will never make a surprise again. This format is the very opposite of improving excitement.

[@saidmo3323]

Exactly!

[@svokxz6435]

I wish they did this like the Danish system(Swiss System) for the league phase so equally ranked teams actually play each other even if they play each other again.

[@BlueFlagAlpha]

This is ridiculous. I dont think I will follow these competitions after this season is over.

[@caven7056]

Okay bye

[@azmanabas8425]

Hasta la vista

[@stipe9773]

Same for me

[@DarylSpykerman]

@@stipe9773 Ok sure

[@DarylSpykerman]

@@caven7056 Ok sure

[@Eighty94]

Open your eyes people. They are slowly setting up the super leauges for the future. All european domestic Leagues will start to crumble as the divide between the big money clubs and the smaller clubs grows larger. These will be the only main 3 leauges in European top flight football.

[@roychen5235]

Thats already happened though, PSG didn't get Messi and Neymar to win Ligue 1. Most of the leagues in Europe only really have 1 or 2 teams that win it most years. The Domestic leagues "destroyed" themselves

[@BlueFlagAlpha]

Ever since some of the big clubs overspent to break the contract clause to get some players, those clubs then became too big for anyone to stop

[@danielvandam]

You need to lower the pitchfork buddy. Explain why this makes the divide bigger?

[@Eighty94]

@@danielvandam I’m not going to waste my time trying to help you understand basic economics. Hopefully one day you’ll be able to answer your own question

[@ayrton56612]

I don't want to see the best opponents face eacht other right from the starts. That is what the knock out stage is for. If they want the group stage to be more exciting they should go the old format with less teams and no relegation to a lower league. Elimination is elimination.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

me neither

[@user-jy3ww6fe3o]

The way he says it like its nothing

[@Levien-vt4tc]

I am not going to judge anything but i have a question are you playing random opponents? I mean Real and City for example will be in pot A but is it possible that they play directly two opponents in group a?

[@InstigatorDJ]

Also how is England cooefficient lower than Italy and Germany? Literally been england teams in the last 5 years semis and finals including winners.

[@poeticbradley3521]

These coefficients are on a season by season basis so if English teams all do trash one season it’s likely we’d only have 4 teams in the ucl

[@tombardsley3081]

Italy had teams in the final of every European competition last season. It was a Milan derby in the semi finals of the champions league

[@aespactzen880]

Thanks to Man U and Newcastle for getting knocked out early in the group stage.

[@Hello-wy2px]

This isn’t about the last 5 years though now is it

[@Michael-st9ky]

I looked it up, getting out of the group gives more bonus points (5) than making it through to the finals (2).

[@KM-ix3ms]

In my longer saves of Football Manager I've actually enjoyed this very much

[@captainfalconmain6576]

can you explain why ?

[@lewisstubbs6569]

Too many matches, lots of injuries will happen which will cause a need for rotation and the fans aren’t going to be able to afford to keep going to these games. It’s absolutely absurd. In a calendar which is already too full it’ll take away the excitement of the draw for the group stage instead have games decided by a computer. Once again UEFA only thinking about lining their own pockets not considering any grave consequences. I hope this new system horribly fails and they reconsider reverting back to the original system which was fine.

[@caven7056]

Two extra games. Calm down

[@fyraga9654]

4 counting with the KO phase

[@Renegade76892]

One thing i do like is imagine what the final day of the league phase is gonna be like if they do it right and have all games kick off at the same time...madness 😳

[@plamerj1234]

all games should kick off at the same time i agree. managers have to play what's needed to get results then, no resting players because the night before you secured r16 from another teams loss when you can secure it yourself with a win.

[@kuhisyamuddin8431]

@@plamerj1234 then the problem is when you have many favourite or good team to watch, but you can only watch one game for one team only, lmao..

[@gn0015]

I think even Kaveh was going through system reboot multiple times in his head trying to explain this mess.

[@user-ek1to4gq3h]

I get all that, but what about the 35th team and 36th team, how are they decided if as normal they are top of the domestic league then who get those spots?

[@CrestoRose]

Hey, I know I am answering late and maybe you already got your answer, but besides the 2 best nations coefficient in the season, one place will be given to 3th place in 5th nation in country's coefficient ranking (France) and another to a champion through qulifications. That's for the UCL, the rest are pretty much the same.

[@johnjim6793]

There is a basic idea of fairness that when you face an opponent at home, then you should also play him in an away match. So if you have a group match where you have different opponents at home and away, it will always feel annatural. Things like this have been tried before, but all such systems have been falling back into the classic group format sooner or later. So this weird system will not last. Sooner or later we will see some further alteration, like 64 teams in groups of four or 48 teams in groups of three or something like that.

[@TrymTheXboxGamer]

City has the 155 charges too

[@Channel-qt8xe]

still crying

[@Diogo85]

​@@Channel-qt8xeThey're going on trial in 2025.

[@saidmo3323]

Why fix something that is not broken??!

[@DionDavis14]

The champions league should only be for the champions of each league. It's a shambles all these extra places / slots go to runner up clubs in the table. It's the champions league. If not, change the name of the competition. But of course, it's all for the money... Money, money, money! 💸

[@costelstan5279]

Imagine a team never been domestic league champion but ending up being European champion idk it's weird to me

[@MarcusRashid996]

Thogdads prediction on Madrid v Bayern 2nd leg was spot on

[@TheBillABCTV]

Too many matches. They should have it knockout only.

[@Streetfussball]

Basically a SUPER LEAGUE. 🤣

[@abody499]

not at all like the super league

[@FormulaProg]

​@@abody499no it's worse and complicated

[@andypandy4607]

@@FormulaProgwhy is it worse

[@victorigwe4675]

How are they going to get 36 teams in the europa league if only one or 2 teams from each league qualify??

[@DS9TREK]

England gets 3 teams in it

[@HXT_916]

UEFA are using horizon to do the draws. 😂

[@Melvin.B]

Just leave the current method as it is.

[@OiiRobbi3x]

Maybe if the draw is broken thats a good sign youve broken the competition. Numpties.

[@giozeta8459]

let's see how it is, the actual champions league format as we know till now was also launched 20 years ago, and maybe people back then were complaining about it. it surely looks entertaining, but adding more games to calenders which are already full of games is not very productive if you want to see good games and if you want to keep players healthy. i just do not like the amount of teams a country could bring in, as an italian i do not get how italy is 1 on the list because of 1 or 2 good european campaigns while there was literally at least 1 spanish side to win an european trophy every year in the last 15 years and yet they are 5 on the table.

[@sahilahmad6344]

I really like it but the players should also be considered as there will be too many matches. Uefa should reduce international break imo

[@lizwi9122]

This is basically like the NBA

[@Xavi_LX]

I don’t know mate, it sounds a bit dodgy

[@combrolaut]

Together with domestic league and domestic cup, how many games player have to play week in week out....😮😮

[@FreddyImran32]

Why did they changed a functioning system

[@gabrielnyadundu126]

How is the quality of the teams going to be rated?

[@reecepopplewell7390]

I think this is interesting, I would say perhaps the teams playing a playoff game from 9th to 24th, maybe 9-16 should be rewarded with a home match, instead of it being two legged. Reduce the potential extra 4 games to 3.

[@Cristianotorres1998]

So what is the difrence between this and the super league ?

[@DS9TREK]

The super league was a closed shop

[@marcocarrillo3923]

Some teams are just going to be stuck deciding which competition gets priority. League or continental competition? On top of that, teams are going to be dependent on having strong talent on the bench, due to the extra games.

[@philipmcniel4908]

I understand the problems with not knowing your opponent in time for people to make travel arrangements, but IMO if they're going to combine all the teams into one huge league table, the *only* way to do that well is to have a true Swiss system, the way it's done in large open chess tournaments.

[@McD5791]

Looks like the old 'finish third in the Champions League group, drop down to Europa League playoff' process has been done away with...

[@xyz1415]

Isn't 36 teams too many for a league format? Besides how are the matches going to cram in the football calendar?

[@captainfalconmain6576]

actually technically yes

[@MrHamibaloochi]

Too many matches, people will get tired of too much hype and football is gonna die out. Imagine if you eat pizza once or twice a week, it's ok but if you eat it everyday you'll puke it out

[@kingpietro1279]

it would work if it was a swiss model wich means that you're starting fixture is know but after that you will be pointed against a opponent who has the same lose and win ration as you. For example manchester united plays against athletico madrid home and away they lose both matches so they then play against a team that also lost thier 2 home and away game for example feyenoord. And athletico madrid will play real madrid the team that also won 2 of their home and away matches you play a few rounds lets say 6 and then there is a league table But NO uefa want to keep their seeding and pots to protect big clubs. Swiss system is good so big clubs face eachother earlier and smaller clubs have oppponents of equal quality.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

keep taking nosnse

[@oliver_sport_1767]

i assuming there keaping the ties and two legs not a straight knock out like the FA cup and the FAI cup, scotish cup and the welsh cup

[@Yautja24]

If there is a superleauge i would not watch. The beauty of football is become the champion of your country and let those champions compete of the ultimate prize (CL). A Superleagu would mean all football history (domestic titles) don't mean a thing anymore. you will have a cup with the same teams over and over, i don't care about. Also without small teams, there are no big teams. I would not watch it, or pay for it. Not a fan of the new CL/EL/ECL format. But let's try it. I am afraid it will be a Russian roulette who go's through first round.

[@dmore]

Surely just publish the code so the whole thing is transparent? 🤷‍♂

[@jeroenska.]

Why are they fixing something that isn't broken?

[@fcadi]

So before champions leauge as the name says it was about leauge champions competing agaisnt each other. And we got to see teams like Red Star winning champions league. We're never going to see that again. Champions leauge is now only about money to be more precise top 5 leagues. We really should have competition just for them and rest of europe to have another competition

[@captainfalconmain6576]

we could say same thing when the euros was 8 teams while it was 40-45 teams an qualifiers i think only wanting big teams in mostly likely

[@MrJellybeen]

Love these 2, top class presenting. Sky pay these boys and keep em locked in

[@b4air]

There is no justice in one country's 5th team gets to be in the Champions League whilst another country's champion doesn't (no matter how competitive or better the former than the ladder)

[@roychen5235]

Fair enough, but also under the current format that other team wouldn't get a spot anyways. I like the changes, most people's issues with it are stuff that already happens in the current format.

[@wowrb]

its called the champions league, the best teams of the best leagues

[@b4air]

It's called the champions league... Every single champion has to be in that league. Not the 5th of some league.. @@wowrb

[@wowrb]

@@b4air not of some leagues, the best leagues

[@ludwigkoopa3343]

@@b4air Well Dortmund is 5th in its league. And they are in the semi finale even though their player roster is the worst since 15 years

[@Wiiggz]

If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.

[@United_Wings]

This is basically The Super League

[@sadiraihan]

It's basically what the super league proposal was

[@samsonfan9879]

If there are big games each week, then no one would pay attention to small teams' clashes happening at the same time. Would those less watched teams get as much broadcast revenue share? I doubt.

[@user-ci4iu4ci2p]

So basically it does not even matter if you are in pot 1 or 4 with the draw ? because you will draw 2 teams from each pot anyway ? Even as a pot 1 team you draw 2 teams from pot 1 ?

[@aserr5660]

Can teams from the same league be drawn together in the initial phase?

[@freakyholic]

No

[@BlueFlagAlpha]

No

[@aserr5660]

Thank you. Now that’s exciting

[@costelstan5279]

Yes if you get 5 from same country right?

[@gababa4286]

But now the teams from the same league can be drawn together

[@salimrehman2028]

Which of the seven teams should be in the Champion league.

[@DC-ix3hx]

I'm not sure all the athletes can handle the physical stress from all these extra matches, longevity is biggest enemy of topflight players.

[@mr.mentesh8130]

Nice way to crap on such an amazing tournament...load of crap

[@cihansafak8629]

I know this one from Basketball Euroleague its similiar the Same

[@Thekaiser4100]

Using rankings based on results that didn’t arise from all the teams playing each other is absurd.

[@raymondnielsen3115]

How will smaller clubs have chance? Rosenborg in 1997 would never have a chance in this format

[@schobaxt.8781]

Advantages: More matches with high stakes and goal fifference matters more. Disadvantages: Less chances for big upsets and getting an overview becomes more complicated.

[@ptmproductions296]

I still don't get it

[@ScottishMapper.]

Don’t think this is the right path in football. Just more TV Advertising 😅

[@roychen5235]

Supply and demand. If you don't like it, don't watch, they're only doing it cause people are watching.

[@BlueFlagAlpha]

They just want our money

[@mezoori]

For anyone saying this new system is stupid, please actually explain why you think that without buzz words like "its all about the money" or "this is just the superleague"?

[@aceking_offsuit]

I don't like that they're adding more games to an already-crowded calendar. I don't like that so many of the extra places are going to the big leagues, creating a bigger gap between the haves and have nots. I don't like how there's effectively no difference between finishing 9th out of 36 and finishing 24th, which will create a lot of games on the final day where one or both teams will have little to play for. I like the end of the 'lucky loser' path to lower level knockouts, but that's about it.

[@larsw.9442]

First off, computer-generated draws should be an absolute no-no! Even if they are clean, the lack of transparency and leaves far more room for manipulation. It certainly increases this perception. 2) It is not an even playing field. Under the older format each team was judged seperately based on their perfomance in the group. Some groups can be tougher than other. But it's fair because they all play against each other under euqal condition (once home and once away). Under the new system you are basically comparing teams in one giant table when they will never play each other. Not all teams in those pots are equal. For example, Team X has to face much stronger opponents from pot 2/3, while Team Y has the "fortune" to face weaker ones. Imagine a Premiere League where each club only plays against half the teams. That's not what Sports is about, and in that regard the old format is by far superior. 3) Entertainment. A small group where there is only one parallel game going is easier to follow and thus creates more drama. Look at the WC2022 Group as an example. Now Suppose your team plays in this new format, is currently positioned at 7th, 8th or 9th and is heading into its last game. Good luck trying to keep up with the scores of 17 other matches going on at the same time, which could all influence the final placement. It baffles me how anyone can think this is superior to a group format, in terms of audience engagement, drama and enjoyable entertainment. And if you think so please, offer a rebuttle and explain how 18 simultaniously played matches are more entertaining, when it's way too much to follow or keep track of. 4) More games. As others have said, players are already overfilled in their schedule with games. 2 more matches (4 should a team reach the playoffs) makes players more prone to injury. And before you say it: The answer is not more rotation. Again, what's the point of watching great teams plays when half their star players aren't even playing or are in the sqaud? From an entertainment perspective this is definetally a downgrade, of not for the CL, then modt certainly for their national league. I can go on about other points. Further disparity between the top clubs and the rest. Less chances for upsets or underdog stories. The dilution of quality But hopefully this got your mind joggin' a bit. The new system is by far inferior in many important aspects of competitive football. It tries to copy a league format while still keeping with a Group-Stage -like concept. In germany, we would say _nicht Halbes und nichts Ganzes_. It is far too convoluted and complicated and gets rid of something that was probably the best format there is. Cheers

[@237gospel]

In the past, if there was no confrontation with big clubs, it became more equitable with this system. Now there is no team that makes it easier to reach the round of 16.🙏

[@andrew_rubia]

Instead of using computers. Have consequtive physical draws happening at the same time you just need space and cameras. Or use the lottery ball system to draw more balls at a time. About fitting 36 teams on the screen. Just split the table into two. Half on the left and half of the right.

[@paddynevs5885]

3:28 better not be Fujitsu

[@Levien-vt4tc]

It has a nice side because more small teams can compete but i think that the bigger competitions will grow enormous and small competitions not that much, that is a danger imo.

[@callum-guy7607]

Horizon signed the contracts

[@MohdAsif-Alpha]

I don't get the format? Explain please

[@wladdenko5812]

There’s a rule that he didn’t know I think that they don’t allow to have more than 6 teams from one country!!! He didn’t know that when he said 7 is the possibility for English teams?

[@Klausschwab1984]

The motives could well be a bridge to the super league but I’m actually in favour of these changes to the format, the old system was becoming stale and boring.

[@fatobeko3181]

im going to miss the real old school champions league and the uefa cup sometimes change is good but this is straight bs back in the day you need to work hard to join these tournaments now its like this hey we got another ticket left wanna join ? lol

[@marksteps1712]

could this be a one season experiment?

[@d-4azerty755]

The change in format is what gives the Champions League the format it has today. Thirty years ago, we had two groups of four and then the final. This new format looks interesting; you compete with your draw and the results of everyone else. Every team will play two teams from each pot, so your UEFA ranking does not protect you anymore. And now you can win the Champions League by playing against 13 different teams (from a maximum of 7 now).

[@captainfalconmain6576]

i don’t really like the single table they should of done 4 group of 8 teams this means we can still 7 different opponents and you don’t need to play each other twice too

[@lethalchicken1able]

Why?!? The current system is tried and tested and works really well. Why change it? Ridiculous.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

actually the ucl should be straight knockout round of 32 should be 2 legs

[@patricktumba8808]

But computerized draw will only raise more eyebrows, I liked the previous system better

[@jewa3051]

This is being half automated? Nah man see how Barcelona will end up playing Bayern, PSG and Madrid one after another

[@tapiwachida8199]

you're killing the players, its not entertatining if the big clubs cant field their best 11

[@jamesduffy7549]

Scrap it, only 1st place from each uefa member should get to play and the winner of the fa cup or equivalent. No europa league no conference league

[@Robwrkmail]

I think the old UCL format was great, the hype and the tension until the matches, and waiting in suspense.

[@MichaelCronan49]

Tbf, theyve got this format in football manager and it is more fun.