Explained: The right wing threat to the Conservatives

[@PoliticsJOE]

We spent three months following the Conservatives around the country. Here's what we learned about their demise: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poSxaoqoh5uGb68

[@FelonyBellend]

I bet your team needs mental health support after that ordeal. Thanks for the hard work ❤️✊

[@wilba1964]

​@@FelonyBellendreform is ukip. Just as racist and little England😊

[@luishsteuer1660]

The party’s own representative was grasping at straws to explain who are they.

[@toi_techno]

If they weren't neofascists it would actually be quite funny

[@suzilouden5964]

That Case bloke was so articulate....impressive 🤪😬😵‍💫😵🥴

[@thimbur3543]

@@suzilouden5964 He certainly convinced me. That he has no idea. 😀

[@321backlip]

He's just idealistic I don't think he actually knows how to change what he stands for.

[@chrisspencer6502]

Democracy and freedom what more do you need to stand on. The question is what's the weeze here? Is this just a distraction machine.

[@tomquinn6549]

People appluading the concept of losing human rights laws is pretty bloody dystopian

[@verystripeyzebra]

You'd be surprised the shit people can be made to cheer on. The trick is to fool people into thinking they don't need their rights, that their rights are being used by undesirable characters.

[@markwelch3564]

Leopards eating faces politics

[@ryangrant9885]

Well that's how liberty dies, with thunderous applause.

[@gavinmurrell3415]

Thuggy death cult?

[@evolassunglasses4673]

And being demographically replaced by mass immigration

[@tomlangford1999]

imagine the kind of hellish dystopia these people want when they consider the current Conservatives "too socialist" and "too woke"

[@squarewindow]

Was going to post this exact comment but I assumed someone else would have got there first. What a bunch of clowns.

[@theworldaccordingto4555]

Fkin' scary, innit! The Brown Shirts are back! And these poor b'stards in the audience are clueless and willing to vote against their own self interest.

[@jormasteelhail948]

I don't think they truly know what they want, only what they don't want

[@TableTopWolf1984]

I spoke with a bloke the other day who genuinely believed Tony Blair was a far left communist who ruined the country

[@ryanmatheson5137]

Moments like these are why "Woke" means absolutely nothing

[@JOverton1992]

Reform: We are losing our freedoms under the current system Also Reform: We need to leave the European Convention of Human Rights.

[@racitup4114]

We wrote it, what's your point?

[@keldsleepnot7961]

@@racitup4114 to even ask that question shows that you really need to revisit basic education

[@appalling22]

@@racitup4114 doesn't matter who wrote it, we're getting rid of it. Whats your point?

[@JOverton1992]

@@Satoshibtc Calm down love, just a quick couple of questions, how many of the ECHR freedoms will NOT be in reforms new bill (that they'll definitely pass cuz it's definitely not a scam)? And does the UK have to leave the ECHR to create its own bill of human rights?

[@keldsleepnot7961]

@Satoshi Nakamoto human rights are human rights. Why leave the ECHR at all if your agenda is human rights. It doesn't make any more sense than you do. And if you want to get all historical on this, the European Convention on Human Rights was first proposed by Churchill and mainly drafted by British lawyers. So trying to tell us that we don't need it because of some bit of law that was repeatedly weakened for nearly a millenia because it's old British law is utterly ridiculous

[@MatBird93]

This first guy is completely out of his depth lmao

[@muirislandjim453]

That first guy interviewed literally has no idea what he's talking about. Amazing.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

None of them do, the African dude has bought the whole schmeer, in an orgy of self hate.

[@nightlordAL]

Having sense and being in touch with reality went in the bin 2016. It's rather depressing to loose democracy

[@ghostdog5525]

Richard Case is an official spokesperson ffs. I suppose he cannot articulate what Reform UK are about properly cos it's complete bollox, a total dogs breakfast of dislike/hate for Europe, xeonphobia, taxes, "socialism", anti-vax, anti-abortion etc. He did miss a trick though, he dislikes wokery so he should have said he was a Spokesman.

[@racitup4114]

I know right, it's almost as if he isn't a politician, he didn't know he was going to be interviewed, hadn't been interviewed before, and they cut out all the good answers. But he's still doing his bit to get us out of this mess, just like you are?

[@muirislandjim453]

@@racitup4114 He's a fool. Just like anyone else who supports this nonsense.

[@DJWESG1]

'We will reform...umm..wait..we will... aaa.. umm... reform..umm... the cash machine, we're stood in front of the cash machine' - reform uk 🇬🇧

[@mbontekoe3358]

Yes that is their sole policy

[@unusedsub3003]

That bit was painful 😖

[@chrisspencer6502]

You're missing the point that they're losing the freedoms to tell you what to believe. Sadly the government's purpose is to collect taxes and maintain government through the provision of security. The government defines security.

[@DJWESG1]

@Chris Spencer ive never missed a point on my life.. I know nazi when I seen them.

[@Demun1649]

@@chrisspencer6502 No proofs. No figures. No details. A Reform Lite candidate?

[@JerzyFeliksKlein]

I'm starting to respect Richard Tice. He is a 100% conman and he is so transparent it's unreal. He doesn't even try to pretend he is anything but, and they love him. They say that a politician is somebody you could spit in a face and they would pretend it's raining. This guy is better, he spits in their face and they thank him for making it rain. I felt sorry for the people that got conned by Farage and other snake oil salesman like him, now I firmly believe they deserve everything they get.

[@kirbles]

Couldn't agree more, except for the part about respecting him. The idea that working-class voters could possibly think that a plummy-voiced privately-educated real estate man was one of them would be laughable if it wasn't happening so often. Tice has absolutely perfected the art of the populist con, using working-class racists' favourite topics of immigration and the culture wars to get them to support a corporatist manifesto on a level with Truss's musings as if low corporation tax is in their best interests.

[@attackpatterndelta8949]

"He's so transparent in his self interest that I kind of respect him." - Mark Baum, The Big Short

[@izaakdamon1979]

​@@kirblesimagen a working class voting Keir starma a private educated real estate-man that get less support in his own party each year.

[@dalian1993]

​@@izaakdamon1979That would be an unimaginable disaster

[@gibsyyy909]

better than the alternative though realistically @@izaakdamon1979

[@DrSpooglemon]

Lost all credibility the minute he said the Tories have gone socialist.

[@simonwyndham]

He lost all credibility the moment he said "err".

[@hayleyxyz]

That was painful to watch. Sounds like a socially awkward kid speaking in front of the class Except he'd be fine to put minorities into camps

[@sbor2020]

... gone socialist, globalist, woke, freedom, small c conservatism, sovereignty! Just as well I am not playing bingo shots game!

[@whatacruelchoice]

Don't you get your gas and leccy bills paid? Don't you get your furlough and your pension and your free healthcare and your education and your childcare and and and... Come off it everything is socialised what do you want free conjugal visits.. actually.come to think of it in some circumstances the state will indeed pay for that

[@sbor2020]

@@whatacruelchoice Profits are privatised, losses are socialised.

[@ko6el]

Getting rid of human rights Audience- "yaaaaay" Uneducated easily used, plainly, happy to vote against that which is in their own interests ffs🤦‍♀️

[@sbor2020]

Yeah and don't even try to inform yourself by *reading* laws and stuff!

[@robinmcara8456]

It's all very predictable and draining now. I'm at the point where I don't have any faith in any of the main parties. They all suck. Peeing on your leg and telling us it's raining. At least Zahawi is gone but it's disgusting that he is still an M.P. I used to think this will take years to fix. Now I'm not even sure it can be fixed. Clips like this one are just surreal.

[@danielcraig4974]

Yeah who needs human rights when you got a crown on a pint glass.

[@theant9821]

its not getting rid of human rights at all, its about doing it with less bureaucracy in the way. Just because something has human rights in its title doesn't mean its acting in the best interests of human rights. Notice how all the so called democratic republics are totalitarian states. and bare no resemblance to a democracy.

[@sbor2020]

@@theant9821 I sure this makes sense to you, but for the rest of us not in your world: In what ways are democratic states now totalitarian? Can you give examples? Can you also explain how human rights legislation does not act in the best interests of people? Maybe gives us examples of such a conflict. And governments wishing to strip people of their civil liberties often use the “less bureaucracy” reason to justify it. Isn’t that what Brexit was about?

[@bigtastyforlife9367]

Felt like a Steve Coogan skit. On a positive note, this will help get the Torys our quicker.

[@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14]

Lmao that's so accurate it really does 😂

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

Brexit might just be good in the long run if it means massive reforms and the end of Tory government for good

[@Sirlarrythecat]

@@alexanderstefanov6474 Laugh I nearly bought a round

[@MaxSlippyFist]

When you're such a remoaner, you can't spell out.

[@redhandtheblack]

@@MaxSlippyFist You won, get over it.

[@Brokout]

As soon as the regular British people hear a posh accent, all their pride melts away and they begin to salivate for their taste of upperclass boot

[@PaulNigelWarner]

Tugging their forelocks while dragging their knuckles across the bloodstained pub floors.....

[@Silver-st2zq]

Agree some people just like to be controlled especially by a Toff.

[@mansonnanson8294]

Mate! These boys will be the third or second party in the UK... can you imagine that?

[@mansonnanson8294]

@Don Doodat mate, one can only pray!

[@apebass2215]

So you're not a "regular" British person? Don't you think British politics should represent "regular" British people?

[@verystripeyzebra]

What he failed to note about the Australian off shoring, is...Australia are halting the scheme, as they deemed it to have been an expensive failure that didn't stop the boats coming. It left Australia isolated, with all cooperation on refugees being withdrawn by the international community

[@spankeyfish]

Just like motorways without a hard shoulder. Almost as soon as we introduced them, the country we copied the idea from (France?) decided they were dangerous and started getting rid of them.

[@matthewn1805]

Its also just a deception, and he must know that, the illegal immigrants coming by boat is a TINY fraction of the total coming to the UK, those that shout about those are hiding their real intentions like most fascists do.

[@DistractingTest]

@@spankeyfish People aren't dangerous, unless you build national dissent against them to lobby constant threats of harm at them so their businesses they made fail. That's how you make any group dangerous, but they can't leave either. See how that happened? The Right fulfilled its own ideals by hating others, oh look we made them fail and hate them daily look at how unstable such a situation is... that's not predictable at all. But that's all it is, stories. Real people always need real help, and any threats to one are a danger to all citizens. Remember that. Edit: Well-funded populist threats are a danger to all if fascist, but poor threats are just not effective by comparison and folks need to stop falling for that as a serious threat when it's just racism and projection of dissent at a now freer fascist ideologue.

[@kienhwengtai8113]

Yeah we did it then stopped it again. And it was costing us a fortune (well taxpayers anyway).

[@b62boom1]

Their communication officer seems to struggle with communication.

[@joex2004uk]

Thank you reform party for reminding me why I’ve never had the desire to visit Walsall…

[@johnburrows3385]

For every vote that Labour will lose to Reform UK ,the Tories will lose ten.

[@dannywhittingham4849]

they are really that thick

[@walterrudich2175]

@Satoshi Nakamoto Then vote Labour in and give them a try to prove you wrong.

[@lloydjones7925]

Neither the Tories or Labour deserve my vote.

[@walterrudich2175]

@Satoshi Nakamoto Labour had the economy running great. Then came the Tories and destroyed everything with Brexit. So what are you referring to?

[@walterrudich2175]

@@lloydjones7925 then vote Reform, split the right vote and help Labour to a landslide win. They will form the next Government, anyway.

[@andymcdonald8922]

Life is just so shit in britain, people are desperate for any change. Same as with brexit, people think it can't get any worse for them. Sadly it can and probably will

[@davemoore5222]

“It can’t get any worse” was what people said to me before the referendum - how has that worked out then…

[@unusedsub3003]

This is exactly the reason why siblings shouldn't procreate.....

[@Dan_and_Co]

that was painful to watch

[@brianbarham2277]

If he wasn't embarrassed, I was just listening to him, the man's a moron.

[@bigtastyforlife9367]

Very cringey. A mix between EDL, BNP, UKIP, Express, Mail, Sun readers and the uneducated.

[@robertlawrence5275]

Yeh net zero is causing the high energy prices apparently! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Totally nonsensical policies and arguments!

[@MrRailjunkie]

It was but at the same time it was good to see them exposing themselves as the ignorant morons they clearly are.

[@vicarious7858]

So according to this "leader" he thinks a hardcore capitalist party is socialist? What the hell is his form of capitalism!?! Edit: They clapped at having their rights removed... My mind is baffled.

[@leeoreilly6797]

He's claiming that the Conservative government's transfer of billions of pounds of public money, into private hands is Socialist. He knows this doesn't equate to Socialism. He also knows the simpletons he's talking to lack the critical thinking skills to discern his claim as false. Finally, he also knows towing this false line will be politically expedient for him.

[@srp01983]

I doubt that anyone supporting the Reform Party knows anything at all about the ECHR. Certainly none of them would know of Winston Churchill’s role in its beginnings.

[@JagoHazzard]

Oh boy, I sure hope this party doesn't turn out to be full of massive racists!

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

🤔

[@danielcraig4974]

The Reform party are like Tufton Street's stranglehold on this country on steroids

[@nickharrison1604]

The Reform party have a stranglehold on nothing.

[@dolceanstar6893]

My father walked from Northern Italy to the UK in 1938 to avoid facism. He was 15. When the Berlin Wall came down in 89, I was surprised that he was so depressed. He explained himself inasmuch that he could foresee the violence that would erupt in the former Soviet bloc, he talked of the war he saw coming to Yugoslavia and Ukraine. Finally, weeks before his death in 91, he predicted that the changes Thatcher made to UK politics would unleash an evil that even 1930's facist Europe couldn't concieve of. Tice looks to me like their cult poster boy!

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

Your father was spot on.

[@DisforDelight]

Sadly prescient, but I don't think Tice is nearly charismatic enough to inspire any form of social change.

[@dolceanstar6893]

@@DisforDelight You're right, he has the charisma of a house cat with an eating disorder.

[@dolceanstar6893]

@@JupiterThunder A 15 year old orphan has to cut the breaks.

[@CamboSheff]

Richard Tice just comes across as a more polished chancer like Farrage. Unfortuantely there's enough mugs to fall for it.

[@JwayT]

How's the re-join campaign going?

[@zam1007]

@@JwayT How's you brexit benefits going? I dont mean your DSS Benefits.

[@kanedNunable]

@@JwayT where are all the amazing brexit benefits you were promised? dont you feel conned?

[@danielcraig4974]

@@JwayT Dummy, dummy, dumb, dumb.

[@JwayT]

@zam I've done very well out of the labour shortage the end of freedom of movement of caused, which is why i voted for it. I'm betting you haven't, unlucky sucker. How's the re-join campaign going?

[@verystripeyzebra]

Hes got an electric car, and let me guess, he's got black friends as well.

[@MrRailjunkie]

Top marks for comedy there.

[@acerimmer1023]

"where was I?" Lol.....EXCACT-A-MUNDO! Anyone who thinks the Tories have become too socialist has absolutely NO IDEA where they are!

[@A_kiwis_view]

A kiwi's view. Thanks for a very informative article, I was born in England and have revisited every decade since the sixties. The decline over the last twelve years is noticeable. Doing more of the same won't work. The class system is obsolete. A modern truly representative parliament is necessary and the abolition of hereditary peerage in the upper chamber. The need to look forward rather than back is essential.

[@DeanJuvenal]

The totally anti democratic HoLs needs abolishing and replacing with a Proportional elected assembly with very strict low limits on campaigning expenditure.

[@ibcanadaboy4381]

A Canuck's view. Like Ian Way, I was born in the UK and have visited frequently since I left 45 years ago. Britain is in decline. I agree that the class system is still a terrible cancer eating the UK. How much of Britain's wealth is still owned by the families of the warlords who accompanied William of Normandy in 1066? As well as abolishing the House of Lords, how about fundamental land reform i.e confiscation of the "great estates"?

[@JT-si6bl]

Yeah but voters and voted all seem to share a weird physiological anomaly - inverted spines.

[@DeanJuvenal]

@@ibcanadaboy4381 It’s a relatively recent concept that people could own, buy and sell land. Previously, it was considered that the land, and water, had been created by god and so belonged to god. The monarch, being the representative of god, had control of the land. Then legislation such as the whole string of Enclosure Acts, took away the ordinary people’s access to land and raising their own basic foodstuffs. The populace became Wage Slaves or starved - or both.

[@DeanJuvenal]

@@JT-si6bl Inverted alimentary canals?

[@irminschembri1081]

I rest my (Richard) Case and left when he called raising taxes by the most capitalist party aka the Tories " socialist" LOL !

[@albertgriffith5801]

I though tony abbott must've been in the uk to advise the main conservative party, but the '6 point immigration plan' is exactly, point for point, what his government did here in australia from 2013 onward. It didn't work, they just stopped telling us the boats were arriving.

[@Jay_Johnson]

Not to mention they are closing the offshore detention facilities

[@portugahbk]

When you're an idiot any question turns out to be a trick question, including "what is your brand?"

[@insaneinthemeshbane]

Hahaha! 🤣😁🤣

[@BanjoLuke1]

By Golly.... These are real people with real votes. One might weep.

[@Brokenribs18]

Jesus wept. Wet blankets slowly decaying in real time.

[@rhysbutler3036]

Populism at its worst

[@nearlythere9443]

Richard Case will have the local Tory quaking in her boots!!🤣🤣 Mind you the one good thing with Reform party, it will split the Tory right wing, making it less likely they can win the next election and the chance that Reform even get a seat in parliament is bloody nigh on impossible.

[@juliahartshorn5238]

But is it😕🙄

[@zoranblackie5921]

I almost want Laurence Fox to win a seat just so he can get rinsed on mainstream telly regularly, and shown up for the charlatan he is

[@verystripeyzebra]

How are you different to the tories.... ...we are even more unhinged and delusional. If you though liz truss was damaging, just wait till you give us the car keys 💥

[@LBandCOOLJ]

I hope this is a positive, splitting the votes of right-wing voters for years to come

[@stoufer2000]

They pulled their candidates from Tory safe seats last time

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

@@stoufer2000 they won't this time, the Tories are foooked

[@LBandCOOLJ]

@@stoufer2000 Mhmm, but I hope it will be different with their strong rhetoric they're using towards the Tories

[@stoufer2000]

@@LBandCOOLJ pretty sure Nigel garbage was moaning about the Tories last time until he pulled all the candidates in Tory seats... The populace have a short memory and I wouldn't trust disaster capitalist Tice as far as I could throw him.. vote splitters but only to suit the neocon agenda

[@stoufer2000]

@@alexanderstefanov6474 here's hoping..

[@poshiesymons666]

People clapping for human rights to be scrapped is like lambs cheering as they enter the slaughterhouse.

[@johnmoore9862]

They’re too thick to realise human rights apply to them as well. If only they could read the poem by pastor Martin Niemoller, “first they came for the socialists”……………..

[@donttrip8282]

Reform party: Because things aren't shit enough yet and too many kids still have food if you ask us... 🥴 Lolz, the same as the Conservatives with a QAnonce twist 😂 He can't say that so he said erm, hmm, you know crime, energy, erm *clutches straws*. 🤣 Consociationalists? 😂

[@Padzilar]

I feel comfortable that they have no idea what they want, how they’ll do it, or how they are going to fix things! Marginally more safe! 😂

[@davemoore5222]

I feel comfortable that they will take votes from the Tories…

[@alex_n8863]

Trouble is there's a lot of working class clowns who think these Neo-liberals on steroids represent them!

[@emckinley1977]

come on Reform UK should just be called Reform England

[@verystripeyzebra]

What are you thinking? Privacy of thought is one of your human rights, yet they cheer on removal of that right.

[@m.j.nicholls]

Richard Tice, all the charisma of a Sock Shop manager with an extensive paperclip collection.

[@growlerthe2nd712]

And a JUST FOR MEN stunt man 😂

[@mothtrain8728]

Ha ha!

[@theworldaccordingto4555]

Scary! Scary that people are clapping and cheering this nonsense from Reform UK. Vote Reform UK at you peril.

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Thing is, its a room full of about 20-30 people in Walsall who are already indoctrinated, I remember when ukip had one of these at my local pub before it shut, 3/4 of the people in the room of 20 were ukip members and they were just shouting amongst themselves, this is no doubt the same grift

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

They'll split the Tory vote, which is great

[@B.Sikes1968]

Just blown up my son's birthday balloons with all that hot air.

[@jamesbond7107]

What 600 plus candidate's, ok so 600 candidate's will lose their deposit, Reform are NOT the answer.

[@larrygerry985]

They want small government but want to create a new immigration department, seems more pie in the sky thinking

[@bothi00]

Conservatives were never about small government. They’re all in favour of interventionism in the form of subsidies, and they’re all for blowing the state up for the military and police

[@Gregsplays]

Tell me about it, in the US in the early 20th century, they signed in the Volstead act to prohibit alcohol, but the same people who wanted that act in power were also the type of people who liked small governments. They ended up with 1 prohibition enforcer per every 73,000 people and a severe case of organised crime

[@theworldaccordingto4555]

I won't be voting for them.

[@stevejohnson4111]

Oh go on!

[@banksarenotyourfriends]

11:25 "we have the highest taxes since the Second World War" Er, no. We have the highest Tax *BURDEN* since the Second World War. The 'Tax Burden' is a measure of Tax vs GDP. Taxes haven't gone up, but GDP has gone down. We have some of the lowest taxation in Europe and also the G20. If it's taxes that are killing the economy, why is it that the German economy is doing better than ours with higher rates of taxation? How did we solve the high post-war Tax Burden? By borrowing more money to create the NHS and welfare system, which raised GDP and let us pay off what we'd borrowed. Please challenge people when they tell you we have high taxes, because we really don't.

[@rowdogspeaks5900]

This is so sad. First of all, none of them are really saying anything of substance other than how much they dislike the Conservative Party and also that guy saying that they're raising taxes which is just wrong. Also, they all seem to applaud and rejoice at the removal of their own rights. Again, it's nothing more than slogans and soundbites in order to misinform. Don't they understand we've had enough of this?

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

Authoritarian dimwits will never have enough of it. Just promise them plenty of racism and the chance to punish others, and they'll vote for it.

[@chriswills9437]

Richard Tice, is facing calls to “urgently” address concerns about his family’s links to offshore tax havens, after an investigation by openDemocracy revealed that two offshore firms own large shareholdings in his family’s business. Tice says he has no knowledge of who runs two offshore companies that have held shares for over 25 years in his family business, Sunley Family Limited, and which now own a combined 42% stake. Tice denies any financial interests in the offshore companies. Politicians and international tax experts have today demanded Tice “urgently clarify” who is behind these companies. John Christensen of the Tax Justice Network said: “Tice and his fellow Brexit travellers have called for ‘taking back control’ yet nothing undermines parliamentary democracy in Britain more than offshore tax havens.”

[@piper3297]

The police dont even police crime why would they police thought.

[@timdyer5903]

The sunny uplands of Brexit.

[@verystripeyzebra]

He's read the international agreements, but he's obviously failed to understand them, or further his understanding by looking at case law and legal rulings on the matter.

[@davidtkocz8356]

I doubt very much that he has read them.

[@sharfold]

In other words: I’ve read it, made my own interpretation and telling you not to read so that you can’t make an informed choice.

[@noneoftheabove5816]

Conservatives have gone woke and socialist 🤣🤣🤣🤣 wow ok pal

[@NarcissismUnveiled]

Snake oil salers are still on the road

[@89zchris]

"These six things" holds up a single hand

[@dave07drummer]

six fingered hand

[@donttrip8282]

That's the real problem, the big wind lobby... 🥴

[@juliahartshorn5238]

🤣😂

[@hugodrax71]

Someone told me you get a free pair of binoculars and a map of Kent if you join Reform

[@johnburrows3385]

Blessed are the gullible for they shall inherit the earth.

[@easytoassemble54321]

FFS, just listen to all that word salad. "Con Socialists". Firstly, I'd love to hear them explain how we actually pay for essential services without taxes. Secondly, I'd love to hear how they can "make Brexit work", if the Tory Party are unable to do it. The worry here is the deriding of any progressive economic policies as "Socialist", because the libertarian alternatives simply throws us further into a neoliberal mire. When something isn't working, you don't do more of it hoping for a different outcome.

[@AlecSharratt101]

I am no clearer as to what their policies are after that bumbling fart of an answer.

[@justanotherfaceinthecrowd]

Tories are socialist 😂 stopped watching after that …

[@sharfold]

Interviewer “Arguably that’s quite socialist”, answer “ no far from it, cutting taxes for the lowest paid, the least well paid is a fantastic thing, that’s what sensible”...socialist would do!!! Go ahead mate, take the votes form the Tories, because the only way they got such a huge majority in the last election was because there was no other right wing competition as UKIP gave way, so go for it, take the right wing votes, the left really won’t mind!

[@mrrt2317]

Tice reaching for the stars at Beechdale social club. Best venue he's ever appeared at.

[@matthewstagg9786]

A classic case of ideological possession. Doesn't actually understand anything but somehow thinks this is better than anything else.

[@MrRailjunkie]

That's a great analysis & summery of Reform UK

[@darrenholden7447]

The gammon is strong here

[@darrenholden7447]

@@JupiterThunder that’s way to exotic for crustys

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

I thought Brexit was supposed to fix everything? That bloke at the beginning had no idea what they really stand for. What they actually stand for is a Libertarian Hellscape, because Tice is all about the "free" market. British people are politically illiterate.

[@andrewfrancis3591]

Very interesting. They spend all their time talking about others.

[@thisismetoday]

Wasteful government spending is the definition of socialism?

[@yetidodger6650]

LOL, this is comedy gold, its like some kind of sketch show ffs.

[@passiveaggressive6175]

‘I hate socialism’ in the same breath ‘save the NHS’😅😅😅

[@tonylyons7711]

This will be the 1st time i vote for a harder right wing party...i want my country back..🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@katetorode8411]

Anything to split the tori vote is good to me. People are fed up w tachital voting for parties they don't really want... We've been scared into a roundabout of bull

[@californiadreamin8423]

I don’t know where that idea came from. If tactical voting had been used in 2019 ( a totally unnecessary General Election) we might be where we are now , living in an 80 seat Tory electoral dictatorship.

[@tina5203]

Richard Case was very embarrassing to watch . They won’t do better than Labour in my opinion!

[@mblack6945]

Brave prediction Nostradamus.

[@vivwindsor4055]

The European Court of Human Rights predates the European Union, it began in 1950. It was none other than Winston Churchill who signed it on behalf of the UK. I wonder what might have happened had Richard Tice told that to his adoring fans, rather less applause I think, when he suggested leaving it.

[@johnmoore9862]

Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe, the incumbent attorney general at the time for the conservative government had a huge influence drafting the legislation which are the ECHR foundations, hardly left wing, Richard Tice should read Pastor Martin Niemollers poem to his followers, though both he & them would struggle to understand the core principle behind it.

[@doszl]

It no longer serves the same purpose.

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

Correction: They're Ukip rebranded, which was the EDL rebranded, which was NF rebranded.

[@archvaldor]

You'd really think a spokesperson for a political party would prepare something to say.....

[@paulwhiteside1805]

Richard "Nut" Case.🥺 Um err, stammer... FFS . A Conservative with a small 'c' ? Strikes me he's a big 'C' in anyone's book. 😩🤯

[@paulunderwood8718]

ha!ha! 🤣.

[@thepongmaster]

I wonder how many people applauding Tice actually understand how you grow an economy? Or what leaving the ECHR actually means ?

[@grtcara8386]

They are life’s dead beats, those people are all on the take and deserve nothing

[@davemoore5222]

I would say none of them…

[@shamanahaboolist]

Corbyn needs to make his own party.

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

If we get PR the political landscape will change completely. Corbyn McDonald and RLB will head a very successful social democratic party and labour and the Tories will decline massively. We'll end up with solid centre left green coalition government in perpetuity, which is no bad thin. Most people in the UK vote against the Tories and are actually more left wing

[@zigzagnemesist5074]

@@alexanderstefanov6474 that sounds like the worst possible party imaginable. The Green Party would collapse the country within days if they ever get in power.

[@matthewstagg9786]

The hand tattoo of deficient impulse control and terrible decision making.

[@leoncarney2228]

Who is paying Richard Tice?

[@raypickles537]

another disaster waiting to happen from the people who brought you the brexit disaster

[@taobot8]

This is the darkest episode of Phoenix Nights I've ever seen

[@verystripeyzebra]

Telling it like it is....also known as ...a dumb oversimplification of reality, that has practical application in most cases, but fails in a significantly large number of cases that your oversimplification of a complex world did not account for.

[@Stephen-zo4le]

The guy being interviewed around 2.5 minutes is so unimpressive it’s bordering on cute

[@piper3297]

People are thick.

[@fitzbarbel]

You would think that they would have the answer to 'what is the difference between you and the tories?' off pat...on the other hand, what am I thinking, ffs.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

With the ERM, advising them.

[@verystripeyzebra]

We're like a more mental version of the tories.

[@riffraff9506]

I think the answer is "uuummmm?"

[@hypersynesthesia]

What a horror he is. Disingenuity and fascism buried under a Richard Madeley veneer. And how depressing (though by now unsurprising) to watch a room full of people cheering things that will actively make theirs and their children's lives more painful. You can almost hear the jackboots in the corridor.

[@shaunm9928]

Just seen on KZbin that Pontins at Southport (a beautiful seaside resort) Burnham On Sea, and Camber Sands (all under performing) are going to house up to 9000 illegal immigrants. Without exception they are all being refurbed and could re house thousands of our citizens trying to get a home. This feels Criminal to me!

[@banksarenotyourfriends]

The answer is to give more rights to the homeless, not remove rights for others. The government is compelled by law to look after asylum seekers, if they were compelled by law to look after the rights of the vulnerable from this country too, then things could change just as quickly for our own less fortunate people. We're a rich country so it's not a case of not being able to afford it, the government just chooses to do nothing about it. The border force and immigration has been intentionally underfunded since 2015, and that's created a huge backlog in cases to be processed - that's why the government is desperately doing up knackered holiday resorts now to try and house people that are in the queue. If they just funded the immigration department properly then those people could be processed and either allowed to stay if they're legal, or sent home if they're not, but until then they will be able to convince people that we've got a 'migrant crisis', which they will then promise to try and fix to get your vote at the next election. It's all just a big game to them, don't let them play you.

[@patrickwaldron-healy8798]

Don't know who's is saying that but it is a lie. The news is saying HPC are taking over Burnham site to house their construction workers.

[@3rodox]

I know it's impossible but I'd love see nations ranked by thickness of the general public. I think we'd come higher than most. Definitely higher than our neighbours.

[@MrRailjunkie]

LMASO

[@poptartstheyalludeme3419]

The "I like electric cars because they're quieter bit" had me in hysterics.

[@richardgriffiths6823]

Looking at the calibre of the interviewees, Reform are a considerable intellectual and political force. Media savvy, with all the right answers; 'Forward - with Reform!' (I just made that up myself! - like Con-Socialist...)

[@bothi00]

That is the exact three word campaign they will definitely go for and have the public eat it up

[@jedfra9172]

A huge amount of intelligent reasoning and understanding on display. The best way to highlight the brilliance of these folk is just to let them speak on record and show us the results. 😁

[@andrewwatts2443]

clearly hasn't examined the uk financials or reality at all. 11:23 "They have the highest government spending" and yet the state, all public services from police, nhs, schools, local councils are all on their knees, national debt doubled, 10+ years of austerity, decade of pay freezes, explosion in poverty, homelessness, food banks, suicide rates, NHS waiting lists, mental health issues, housing crisis, energy crisis despite the greatest growth in profits EVER RECORDED. Yet we have gain 100 billionaires since they have come into power and more than half of the tories are multi millionnaires. How exactly is that socialism. Does Tice even know what any of the dozen types of socialism are.

[@pmoran7971]

Reform are a traditional Conservative party which is short-hand for lower taxes for the very rich can you imagine Reform forming a government? out NHS would disappear and we would have an insurance based American system in its place, and far from what Tice is saying' Workers rights would also disappear, Far right parties have a limited shelf life in this country

[@iwrn33]

Good

[@dglenday8705]

Reform are radical neoliberals, as were Thatcher and Truss. Although Reform don't stand much chance of election, their function is to provide a presence to push The Overton Window ever to the right and are happy to feed off the disenfranchised "left". They're anything but conservative and it's probable that they receive a lot of "support" from Uncle Sam to help drive an ideology which is clearly aimed at destroying what's left of the welfare state and pushing us all into servitude in the guise of libertarianism.

[@iwrn33]

@@dglenday8705 I don't mind neo Liberals as long as they support proper privatisation and I am a libertarian as well so it doesn't bother me

[@dglenday8705]

@@iwrn33 Well at least you're honest about what you want, unlike most in politics nowadays.

[@iwrn33]

@@dglenday8705 that's true I say how it is

[@mattbenson3482]

I propose an experiment. Let Richard Tice become Mayor of Walsall for a month, let him implement everything he wants. Then let's see how much those people are clapping then. I think the problem is, people don't fully understand what sort of country these policies would result in, implemented by people like him. He pretends to be a man of the people. Who's interests is he working for? Not the majority of people that's for sure.

[@maxstoddard4503]

Lots of sore and well dragged knuckles in this this item. Tories =Socialists? Have I woken up in some strange alternative reality?