Explaining the monster effect, Riku's allure - IDOLiSH7 Third BEAT Part 2

This was so hard to edit help 💀, on other hand this episode was just incredible!! i had to watch it a few times because it was that good, thank you Troyca so much
The clips are from episode 20 of IDOLiSH7 s3/season 3
#anime #idolish7 #shoujo
Tags: アイドリッシュセブン , アニナナ , アイナナ, shoujo , idol anime , Riku Nanase , Iori Izumi , Tsumugi Takanashi , Takamasa Kujo , Tenn , Idolish7 scene , Idolish7 moment , anime fall 2022

[@KaiSL]

I remembered when Tsumugi said the first time she met Riku when they were playing basketball, she felt like she want to support him. Now it makes more sense.

[@chearrstine_]

OMG I NOTICED THE SAME THING

[@Fluffycloud1153]

I was honestly really sad when the entire stadium turned red because I get how fans are supposed to be supportive of an artist in need but the other Idolish7 members work so hard too😭

[@miorichan3546]

Tbh at game story, after the live idolish7 member asking Riku if he's okay or not. Riku apologize for ruined the stage. Tamaki also said, "Rikkun you're crying right? I almost crying too." Yamato, "What's wrong did you remember the things when center changing?" Everyone was cheering for Riku. They weren't sad about the light stick turning red, they were feeling sad because Riku was crying. In the anime many details are not shown.

[@yannabeatrix]

@@miorichan3546 truee, there was a cut when riku and mitsuki saved tenn. after tenn slapped riku he apologized; this was in the game, but in the anime they didn't show that😩

[@naturequeen874]

@@yannabeatrix it was in the Anime

[@azurii]

​@@naturequeen874it was but not the apologie part

[@nekame]

troyca did such an amazing job pointing out the allure effect and portraying it not only as something unusual but also as something dangerous for the group

[@1animeaanonymous1]

Agreed; this is especially true when Riku is stealing the spotlight from his other group members (even tho he isn’t doing it purposely, it’s fatal to a unit)

[@purpleguardian]

well in way I kinda saw that as "a member of a unit cannot stop/hide their struggle, and being a fan of the whole group, the stadium gave him bit more boost because they see him as the one needing it the most" but then again yah, looking at it, it CAN or WILL be dangerous for them. either way, they really did a good job. They did it beyond my expectation ++ massun's voice (damn that guy) I get chillz whenever I watch that part x__x

[@springdemon.w.]

Not only that but it could also harm Riku's health as well, as all the support turns towards him it could start to feel suffocating or pressuring... That's a theory for why Zero disappeared too, and that's why Kujo is scared of Riku bc he reminds him of Zero; he's even admitted that Riku is more like Zero than Tenn is

[@_xiaoxiaoart]

@@purpleguardian ikr, i think there will be a story where the problem mainly about Riku's allure

[@acutelilmint8035]

@@1animeaanonymous1 he’s not stealing. It’s iori and others insecurities that blocks them from shinning.

[@miorichan3546]

So basically, Riku has the charisma to charm people. Don't know why Iori and some people pointed out his ability negatively. It's a good thing, but yes, it's true, if it's excessive and not monitored it will be dangerous, moreover Riku is weak with stress. What was Ten afraid of, right, if Riku couldn't bear the burden of it. Because the more people loves Riku, the pressure and expectations to Riku will increase as well. Afraid, unable and fall. Like Zero.

[@acutelilmint8035]

I agree. It’s not negative.. and Riku is t manipulating.. it’s because he genuinely doesn’t want to disappoint and he does his best even if it will hurt him. Tenn low key is right.. Riku won’t give up to the point of seriously hurting himself. Riku is afraid of letting down people. But that’s the charm he has.. is he’s very hard worker and won’t ask for help when he needs it.

[@kristin7146]

The concern people have isn't that he's manipulative, it's that he's not aware of his effect on people and if he was, he would overthink everything he does and stress about it. The other piece is concern that other people might want to use him as an 'influencer,' essentially.

[@miorichan3546]

@@kristin7146 too much pressure indeed. It sounds a little cruel if we say Riku manipulative.. Because he himself had no such intention or was not even aware of his charm abilities.

[@kuroo_nyanko]

I know it's a serious thing and all but I call this phenomenon as "Riku's sad puppy face"

[@wolfixiqiao]

i need this on a t-shirt right now

[@user-cy9ti5cc8r]

陸が目を伏せて静かに泣いて、天が感情をあらわにして泣くの逆だと思ってたから意外だった

[@user-cy9ti5cc8r]

あまり激しく泣くと発作に繋がるから、そうやって泣くようにしてきたとかあったら萌え

[@kagerika9741]

Never thought that an idol anime could be psychologically deep...

[@einzweichschein]

That's why IDOLiSH7 is cut above the rest. Sadly, it's rather underrated and unknown.

[@kagerika9741]

@@einzweichschein YEAH!!! at first I thought it would be the generic fluffy idol anime again, but NO!!! Its really deep and the plot was heavily based on how the entertainment industry really work as well as the politics and the psychology of entertainment industry and how F*cked up it could be sometime. ITS TRULY A GOOD SHOW!!!!!!

[@TLau-bm3vy]

@@kagerika9741 i watch idolish7 because im interested in reverse harem vibe i get, because the power of love that draws the chars to sing so amazing 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 not to mention i love to select among the group that really makes me zing!

[@JackHayden12345]

It is a masterpiece

[@JackHayden12345]

It contains almost everything realistically possible (except maybe paranormal activity if you don't believe in it) and every character is done wonderfully i am really happy that others also notice this

[@zatannavolkoff]

1:54 What scares me even more is that it’s already affected Ryou too who, by the way, is their biggest foe they’ve met yet at this point

[@eryanzt1717]

My opinion on this episode is, Demon King represent Iori and Tenn. First is Tenn, the demon king who's keeping the Monster(Riku) hidden inside a clean cage not letting him go outside as to protect him. Second is Iori, who let the Monster(Riku) out but keep a leash on him so he wont out of reach until both of them fulfilled their wish. Tenn and Iori was never jealous of Riku to begin with, as both of them is the people who truly know and understand Riku also his abilities. They really did that to protect Riku, so he wont leave them or die. It can be interpret such as, Tenn: "I do this because I don't want you to die, so please stay put and don't be an idol!" Iori: "Please be an Idol, and don't worry cause I"ll be the only one who will told you to sing!" Tenn was keeping Riku healthy but not his happiness. And Iori is keeping Riku Happy at the cost of his health. Buy yes, they need to do something about the Allure that Riku has, so it wont go berserk. It's either make him stop or control him. PS: Feels like both Tenn's route and Iori's route will lead to bad end as well😂 Though I was reading the story, I couldn't help but think so...

[@natlylyx6555]

Angst huh 😭

[@MaryBaker-ev6cu]

Angstish7

[@anygays_im_fujoshi]

Honestly to me, Riku was never ever a monster. He's a human rather, who tries his utmost to suffice the audience and his fans and also cares deeply for others. Calling him monster is like, you're calling the odd one out for being different. Riku is genuine about his feelings, so whenever he shows it, we feel like we genuinely understand him or want to understand his feelings too. We don't resonate but want him to be himself and most importantly be happy. That's why, the fans are always supportive towards him. However the dangerous thing is, how some fans can get toxic to the point where they get delulu about their idols. If anything this should be the main focus. I don't blame Iori or Tenn for their agressive love towards Riku. Both wants Riku to be safe and sound and not overexert himself. However calling him a monster is not done! If anything he's a Human who desires to make others happy 🤧💕💕

[@natlylyx6555]

Yeah, i also don't like when Iori , Kujou talk about Riku is a monster ,😥

[@missasyan]

​@@natlylyx6555 Though it becomes clear that Tenn is the same, if not more. (discussion until third beat, part 2, so please watch to avoid potential spoilers) Tenn's immediate worries when Trigger left Yaotome Production were the fans. He is always thinking about the fans reaction. On the other hand, Riku more of wants to sing with everyone. He definitely cares for the fans as well, but its more like he wants to share feelings through music. He wants to make others happy, but he is also more focused on singing together as idolish7, no matter if people hate him. Kujou is harsh in saying Riku is a monster, because Zero wrecked him that much. He thinks Riku will end up like Zero, a shooting star who will disappear in an instant. So we can only hope moving forward that Riku won't cause chaos for the fans and of course for Iori or Tenn who care about his presence a lot. The difference this time is that Riku is not a solo performer like Zero, and has friends (+family) in the industry, and it was following Tenn that got him in the industry in the first place. Also, in episode 14 of third beat part 2, we saw how Riku demanded that Iori doesn't leave and they'll all stay together. For now, he doesn't have plans of disappointing fans by leaving

[@Amertsi]

watching this effect happen irl with the shrimp chips is something else lol

[@Cosplaybuddygiraffes]

Meanwhile I saw a bunch of QRTs on the Twitter upload saying “the monster effect at play‼️” It’s like another layer of complexity when the effect is explained to you but you’re overcompensating because of your awareness

[@user-kw6tc4di1w]

なんかperfection gimmick歌ったときの陸が泣ける🥺

[@acutelilmint8035]

There is logic to this, and it can be seen 2 ways.l but it’s not manipulation from Riku. Think of keanu reeves.. people love him and want to support him cause he’s so kind and does his best. Riku is the same.. even when he’s in pain, he goes 100%.. people don’t pity.. people want to see people succeed. That’s what the guy gets wrong.. people who give it their all with sincerity are dangerous because they can motivate people (but they can be esaily exploited without knowing)

[@CorgiYorkie]

Very true. I feel like the way Iori describes it isn't totally accurate. Riku isn't actively trying to manipulate people, and he has no ill nor malicious intent; it's like Yamato said in another episode. He's hardworking and genuine, and he gives his all (to the point where he'll hurt himself in the process, as not to disappoint/let down others). So, rather, he just simply tends to usually wear his heart on his sleeve and just happens to have the charisma/allure factor to him that's paired with that trait. I get how it can be fatal to the group, for sure. But it's interesting to see how Iori has analyzed it that way, but somewhat misses the mark. He and Tenn are on opposite sides of the spectrum, and both approaches could potentially hurt Riku, eventually, seeing as how there's no happy-medium between their approaches to dealing with the situation, usually. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out, and whether or not it will backfire on them. I hope that it will not, though.

[@user-cy5hq8il3w]

一織本当はりっくん思いな所あるまぁりっくんと一織は弟コンビだもんね(◜ᴗ◝ )

[@stawydusty]

I WATCH THIS MORE THAN 1000 TIMES

[@zatannavolkoff]

2:06 Ignore me, just the piano note reminded me of some other nostalgic OST from another series I believe -> The Demonic King Chases His Wife S1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIiQgnprg6mWd7M at 1:06:40 & something else maybe 2:06 - 3:19 Actual OST playing here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6ead2Z8i7ZjaLs

[@octoling10008]

りっくんマジ大天使すぎる(*/ω＼*)ｷｬｰ!!

[@animekouhai5364]

Really i7 is the fav idol anime ever ❤️

[@JeanaSama58]

Am the only one scared Riku will die from overwork.

[@grisly-bear585]

Don't worry, he has plot armour as main character

[@kristin7146]

I think those around him are plenty aware enough to keep that from happening. Also, regular exercise is helpful for people with asthma (even though it's a double-edged sword). Becoming an idol was actually good for his health and why it makes sense that his attacks get less frequent over the story.

[@SweetSAM1020]

​@@grisly-bear585 But Riku isn’t the main character. The main character of Idolish7 is their manager Tsumugi.

[@littlekizu8079]

​@@SweetSAM1020 they won't kill off Riku

[@SweetSAM1020]

@@littlekizu8079 Maybe. There are a lot of anime which have ended with important characters death. But Idolish7 is a idol anime, so maybe there will be no death. Maybe there will be a happy ending. But there are a lot of sad things, angst and physiological matters in this anime. So it is possible that Riku will stop being an idol because of his health. But one thing is for sure. In the "7 beat", we may see a lot of suffering. And maybe Riku will suffer a lot.

[@altoidsours]

Summary: Iori pulls up a "Cute Riku Moments" compilation on youtube and has sudden gay panic.

[@user-ke5fu3ii2f]

Tsumugi and iori 😍

[@rismawati-du9wq]

3:29 in this part, this question is for whom? Iori?

[@user-cy9ti5cc8r]

After this scene, Iori and Ten are shown. Also in the game, Iori said, "In order to fulfill Nanase-san's wish, I will play the role of the Demon King."

[@rismawati-du9wq]

@@user-cy9ti5cc8r ohh... So, this question is for Riku... Thank you 😍

[@incrivelmentefa1035]

O único monstro aqui é esse vampiro...# amo o nanase riku

[@ringocandy]

名シーン

[@user-ng3hn4br6p]

魔王

[@user-cy9ti5cc8r]

最初に現れた魔王は天？今の魔王は一織？

[@xiaom2593]

Heaven is tenn ryt?

[@user-cy9ti5cc8r]

@@xiaom2593 Ten in Japanese uses the kanji for heaven, so it must have been translated that way.

[@acutelilmint8035]

What iori said alway pissed me off and shows why he doesn’t get it. Are all members working hard? Sure.. but Riku is working even harder cause of his motivations along with health problems. Riku doesn’t really open up about his h is why if he’s seen crying or suffering he suddenly is smiling.. that’s not seeking attention..that’s being self conscious. Riku tried very hard and people can see it, vs other members started just going through the motions.. this is when people stand out.. and then when other members are too busy worrying about others is also why they don’t shine.. Iori didn’t become an idol for the same reasons.. Riku has. Very strong reason. ..but it’s also his personality.. It is the same iroi doesn’t really understand why tenn is so good either same with Riku until later on.. Tenn is, indeed doing it for the fans. He really appreciates them vs say the zlol guy… again, different motivations is why people shine. Irori later gets better but this was a hung he was dead wrong and said more about his jealousy than Riku,

[@eryanzt1717]

Well for this, I though Iori is just a tsundere guys so he interpret it in such complicated way😂 Maybe it's not jealousy, since the first time he prefer to be a producer and manager than an idol. I mean the reason he join the agency in the first place is to make Mitsuki Idol. Iori was scouted but he refused if his brother didn't scouted as well. Like Takamasa said, Iori was allured by the charm that Riku has and wanting him to reach even upper as a superstar. So even if he need to became the demon king, he will continue to let Riku sing. As he promised to make Riku a superstar. But that's what his mistakes, Idolish7 is not a solo, they are a group and he's not focusing on his team except for Riku. He's too blinded by the light that Riku has and make him a little greedy to make Idolish7(mostly Riku) to the top. That's what lead to making Riku resemble Zero. And Iori is resembling Takamasa. Maybe Takamasa give them warning or they gonna enters the same route as Zero.

[@haneenhano3814]

Honestly I was mad because Riku called the monster 😑😑and Ten is the angel I think the opposite is true

[@acutelilmint8035]

This is where irori is wrong and doesn’t get it. No one pities animals.. or babies.. they think they are cute and sweet and need to be protected. Riku crying and suddenly happy isn’t manipulating, he’s trying to push through cause he feels guilty the concert went all red. That’s why he tries his best. It’s not how iori interprets it.. he doesn’t do it for pity. ( it could be bad translation)

[@kayraslv]

@@cyrus.5.anlami da*

[@user-bs9ng6rt5g]

モンスター　七瀬陸…。

[@yilinglaozus]

i need someone to explain this emotional manipulation concept and why is it a negative thing in an easy way 😔

[@naturequeen874]

Episode?

[@user-gr4ue2rb9d]

Can you please tell me where this piece is from? I think I've watched all the anime, but I don't remember that.

[@pikachupikachu97]

Third beat part 2

[@user-mj4mc8cs9e]

Well...

[@Emma45624]

Which series?

[@Fluffycloud1153]

Idolish7

[@Emma45624]

It's the name of the anime. Or is that what the series is called?

[@Fluffycloud1153]

@@Emma45624 What do you mean by series?

[@Emma45624]

I mean, Idolish7 is what anime is called. And I'm interested in the name or number of the series.

[@Fluffycloud1153]

@@Emma45624 There are three series + Extra First Season (17 Episodes) Idolish7 Vibrato (8 Episodes: Extra) Second Beat (15 Episodes) Third Beat (15 Episodes) Third Beat Part 2 (Still Airing)

[@shyoto1882]

What's with these long chinass bois 😂 anime becoming more weird

[@user-bm5dy3fj3l]

Anime truly is trash 😂

[@starsaber100]

That's a funny statement coming from a person with an Animated Profile Picture If you use your brain, Anime derives from the Word Animation which is also cartoon Also, saying anime is trash without watching all of it prove to say you are the actual trash

[@haruna-chan9412]

What you're saying is just plain rude.